Dr. Who Mafia - Night 12

[Spacedaisy]

Ok pic I leave my vote where it is, it will be useless. This spread vote makes it very likely we will lynch a civ. So based on this I am evaluating voting patterns. It looks like three votes were placed on Made AFTER Hedge got two. I am moving my vote to Hedge. I realize it is not absolute proof, but it looks like it might be a save and I don't want to spread my vote farther than I have so I am going to try and mKe my vote count.

[Marmot]

We need to consolidate our votes?

Yes

Linki: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Bea's watching us.

[Dom]

I'm back
I just looked at the poll for the first time in a good while... I didn't realize so many people followed my vote on Made.

[Marmot]

But this lynch will be illuminating, I think. More people have been non commital, and more people have been discussing who they DON'T think is bad than who they DO think is bad.

Sounds like we agree on something.

And can we be careful with the SD's thrown around? There's Space Daisy and Snow Dog, and I don't always know which is which.

Linki: let's not assume they followed you.

[Spacedaisy]

But this lynch will be illuminating, I think. More people have been non commital, and more people have been discussing who they DON'T think is bad than who they DO think is bad.

Sounds like we agree on something.

And can we be careful with the SD's thrown around? There's Space Daisy and Snow Dog, and I don't always know which is which.

Linki: let's not assume they followed you.

I agree!! Lol, call me Daisy and it will be much clearer You are talking about me.

[S~V~S]

I do find Mades behavior change interesting. And the way he kinda lashed out, it had more of a cornered baddie feel than anything. I mean we have seen Made lynched as a civ a few times, and he did not have that element of anger.

And THIS was the roll smiley I love:

[keys56000000000]

Carry on and HAVE MORE FUN!!

YOU GOT IT BEA! d(^_^)b WOOOO!

*hits refresh again*

[fingersplints]

I found this guy in LC's collection and I think he does look pretty cute!

I found that too, but i was looking for the OTHER roll eyes, the one we had at the Piano. That was the PERFECT roll eyes. I wish we had it .

Maybe danhm still has the pack on his computer, or knows where he got it so we can get that guy? He was perfect.

I did find these guys, which might be fun for the game



LINKI YOU FOUND HIM SVS ^_^

[Dom]

But this lynch will be illuminating, I think. More people have been non commital, and more people have been discussing who they DON'T think is bad than who they DO think is bad.

Sounds like we agree on something.

And can we be careful with the SD's thrown around? There's Space Daisy and Snow Dog, and I don't always know which is which.

Linki: let's not assume they followed you.

MM, did I miss where you commented on Made? I may just be forgetting, but I can't seem to remember that.

[Dom]

I do find Mades behavior change interesting. And the way he kinda lashed out, it had more of a cornered baddie feel than anything. I mean we have seen Made lynched as a civ a few times, and he did not have that element of anger.

And THIS was the roll smiley I love:

Agreed with the anger bit.

I MISS THAT SMILEY SO SO MUCH. I LOVED THE PIANO'S SMILEYS.

[zeek]

I don't like this lynch but I agree it will be illuminating.

[Gotrees]

So, is the only argument against Made the fact that he's playing a different game?

I feel like both Dom and Made are making very bad arguments, I said something similar earlier, and I'll say it again: I'm not convinced at all by either of them.

Regarding Snow Dog: Something he said earlier today pinged me, and his recent actions just throw me off even more. I think I'll drop my vote there since it's almost closing time. I'll go back and see if I can find exactly what it was, but I was in a rush when I first read it so I couldn't make a post.

Also:

Made: In fifty words or less, please tell me why I shouldn't vote for you.

Dom: In fifty words or less, please tell me why I should vote for Made.

Your guys' arguments are really long, and to me they just seem mostly pointless. I would appreciate a brief and direct explanation from both of you if you guys can do it nicely.

[Marmot]

But this lynch will be illuminating, I think. More people have been non commital, and more people have been discussing who they DON'T think is bad than who they DO think is bad.

Sounds like we agree on something.

And can we be careful with the SD's thrown around? There's Space Daisy and Snow Dog, and I don't always know which is which.

Linki: let's not assume they followed you.

MM, did I miss where you commented on Made? I may just be forgetting, but I can't seem to remember that.

I have commented on Made, though nothing today (I don't think) and they've actually been advocating his civvieness. Is that what you're looking for?

Hence, I haven't voted Made. I'm not sure I would unless it was a Made/MP lynch decider.

Linki: gotrees, I'm honestly feeling the same way. His reactions over the past couple hours are just so... bizzare? I can't even think of a word to describe them. He just so obscenely doesn't want to make a decision on his own.

[Marmot]

^^^regarding Snow Dog

[Tangrowth]

Wow, okay, I can't believe how spread the vote still is. Ugh.

MP, I looked back at LC and this was his post for his Epig vote:

Voting for Epig for now, I think his long-term game is to hide in plain sight.... in a baddie kind of way.

Prior to that he had made a comment about Epig so his vote wasn't out of the blue.

I'm trying to understand what you are saying about LC potentially being baddie. What was it about his vote for Epi makes you suspicious?

It's an incredibly weak reason and it makes no sense, Epig clearly was getting suspected left and right for most of the game.

And now LC votes for me because I voted for him? I know it's a lot of posts, but seriously? It's Day 3 for goodness sake.

splints thats the only one I seen as well.

Put a vote on hedge to see if will bring her to the thread.

MP - you are jumping around more than my neice jumping rope.
LC's vote was odd but he did say he was going to focus on MPATHG. game. personally I can't fault him for that.
Srsly though it was a strange vote and though I am feeling god about Dana there is still a niggling voice in the back of my mind saying the Epi lynch was a save of Daisy ( or poss one of the other vote getters idk daisy makes more sense in my hed)

Linky splints - inre: Elo. yah she was on my radar at the beginning but when she responded initially I felt better about her. Her dana suspicion feels a bit forced (is the only way it feels to me) still feel more confident in my Hedge suspicion.

also MP - you said the Hedge suspicion feels off bc others are chiming in- you do remember me saying no one but me was talking about her after that others (including you) chimed in.

My boss is here so I have to stop postiing asap

LOL at the jumping rope.

I'm doing it to keep the baddies on edge, half my votes I don't really intend to be my 'final' votes unless something happens to make them that way. I had little intention of keeping my vote on LC although he is acting suspiciously.

Noted re: Hedge. I'm just trying to figure out where people might be latching.

Honestly MP, I have not agreed with any of your suspicions yet this game lol, and your thoughts are all over the place. You seem to suspect me because my thoughts are not lining up with yours, but tbh I think most of your recent accusations have been way off base. Notice I'm not saying this makes you civvie or baddie. It simply means that I'm not agreeing with you very much so far.

I don't understand your suspicion of DF - you earlier based it entirely upon the fact that he voted for Daisy without much explanation, you said that you hadn't suspected him except for that vote. And yet when he posted his explanation you simply said you weren't satisfied with it. Why weren't you? DF's explanation rang genuine to me and I immediately in my mind compared it to his freak-out in the LOST game as well as the Recruitment III game on RM. Juliets, you may remember that I made some accusations against DF in that game, and at one point he thought I was claiming I had info on him (I wasn't) and he got extremely upset. He was a civvie, just a frustrated one because he thought he was being accused for no good reason. I see shades of that here, I have no red flags against DF and think it would be a mistake to lynch him today.

I don't understand your vote for LC either - he's barely posted in the game and clearly isn't paying a great deal of attention. I once made the mistake of helping to lynch LC for this kind of behavior and he was a civvie. I think he'd be way more involved if he was a baddie tbh. We've had so much discussion today and for you to just fall back onto an LC vote is concerning to me. I don't know how you can feel so strongly about him just based on his vote for Epi. I think it would be a mistake to lynch him today.

Hedgeowl is the most likely to get my vote. I don't understand her hesitancy to answer Roxy about her behavior during the Juliets vote which makes me think Hedgeowl has something to hide there. It was an easy question but Hedgie has skirted around it completely.

And I still feel Made's last post against Dom was off somehow, the way he said to Dom "If you want an example of a good case, see below" and then he wrote a paragraph on Dom that seemed kind of spiteful and disingenuous.

Fair enough. Not sure how you don't understand my vote for LC, but see above. I never really intended to lead a lynch on LC, but my vote was meant to keep people guessing as to where votes might go AND to generate discussion about LC.

Couldtt sleep as not entirely comodtable with daisy vote.

On reflection a heeding those numerous calls for made


Votes Made

Your vote is keeping you up at night, is it?

Snow Dog's behavior has struck me as really suspicious today, but I'm really torn at the moment as to where I will be putting my vote. I know Snow Dog can lack confidence in himself and his playstyle seemed relatively normal before, but his inability to commit AT ALL and the people he shifted his votes from and to just strike me as baddie-oriented, especially since he ended at Made. Just seemed like a cop out.

Made COULD be bad, but I'm not sure I'm convinced. I could see justifying a vote for Hedge instead or even Snowy since they both have 3.

[Hedgeowl]

Not sure why it took so long to respond since you have been here for the vote and shrtly after and again for the night poll.
I did not twist anything It was a very simple question.
If you have been checking in on and off then why couldn't you respond to my simple question?

Roxy, did you not see my long post? That post took me 20 minutes to create. It was not a simple question in the sense that you mistated in your post what i actually said, which you dint acknowledge in this post. I am sorry i didnt respond sooner, but now that i have it doesnt even seem to matter. Honestly if i were bad i would have teammates to help me be more on top of this, but obviously i dont. I was too busy defending myself, helping my baddie team, and getting lynched in Clue. I even did that badly because my internt was on the fritz. Sorry if my response means nothing to you obviously, but there it is.

[Dom]

So, is the only argument against Made the fact that he's playing a different game?

I feel like both Dom and Made are making very bad arguments, I said something similar earlier, and I'll say it again: I'm not convinced at all by either of them.

Regarding Snow Dog: Something he said earlier today pinged me, and his recent actions just throw me off even more. I think I'll drop my vote there since it's almost closing time. I'll go back and see if I can find exactly what it was, but I was in a rush when I first read it so I couldn't make a post.

Also:

Made: In fifty words or less, please tell me why I shouldn't vote for you.

Dom: In fifty words or less, please tell me why I should vote for Made.

Your guys' arguments are really long, and to me they just seem mostly pointless. I would appreciate a brief and direct explanation from both of you if you guys can do it nicely.

Initially, Made said he missed something I said, and subsequently said he misread it. I thought teammates had filled him in on something, and he screwed up. I pressured. Response: lashing out, no u, misrepresentation. Then, he got very angry, and that read as even more baddie. He seems cornered.

Word Count: 50

[Tangrowth]

Is there anyone else here right now who hasn't voted or is considering moving their vote and it could impact the lynch? I realize I also have 3 votes so I need to be a bit careful, AND I'm curious what folks are thinking.

[Dom]

I think I missed that post. I just wanted to see if you had a reason

Please, roll your eyes. It's cute.

Thank you for the compliment

Let's not pretend MP and SD are playing the same game. MP has been extremely active and gives us a lot of information about what he thinks and how he's voting. Snow Dog does not. He's not quiet, but he adds nothing to the discussion and has no reasons for his votes - changing them frequently and not taking responsibility for them by following others.

I'm not.
I think Snow Dog has been very shady these past few hours. I wanted to see what you would say to me when I asked you about that. I liked your response.
I think Made is more likely to be bad at this point.

[Tangrowth]

Dom, is Snow Dog your number 2 suspicion after Made?

[Hedgeowl]

Ok pic I leave my vote where it is, it will be useless. This spread vote makes it very likely we will lynch a civ. So based on this I am evaluating voting patterns. It looks like three votes were placed on Made AFTER Hedge got two. I am moving my vote to Hedge. I realize it is not absolute proof, but it looks like it might be a save and I don't want to spread my vote farther than I have so I am going to try and mKe my vote count.

I assure you no one is trying to save me or i would have surely been here earlier and known that there were others picking up roxys case on me. There were 3 votes on me until juliets moved her vote, but i dint know what number it was at that point.

I am not caught up with the case on Made, but from what people are saying it is because of his different platpystyle this game? I am going to stick with my vote on spacedaisy for now for the azure vote. I wish I had more time and energy, but this is what i have now.

[Black Rock]

I have once again voted for Enrique. Sorry that I have sucked so far this game. I will get better once I get my computer back.

[zeek]

MP, really you have to move your vote to ensure you don't come close to being lynched. Really depends on who you suspect the most out of the frontrunners.

Initially, Made said he missed something I said, and subsequently said he misread it. I thought teammates had filled him in on something, and he screwed up. I pressured. Response: lashing out, no u, misrepresentation. Then, he got very angry, and that read as even more baddie. He seems cornered.

Word Count: 50

Like this you mean:

I do, however, redact my statement where I stated that Zeek pointed it out that the others were updated, I went through his posts and misremembered and misaccredited him with that.

[Mister Rearranger]

Attention all Players:



You lot have been busy today! I just walked in the door and am franticly trying to shove food in my face and get stuff taken care of. There are just a couple things I want to clear up first:

1) We're working on finding a replacement for bullz. I'm sorry you have to drop sweets, but I want you to do good at uni so - carry on sir!
2) Since BWT elaborated on Strax a bit incorrectly, I will clarify. Strax kills on even nights.
3) I see we had some tempers flair up while I was gone. Thank you llama and teefies for stepping in. I would like to reiterate what llama said.
Please pay *VERY* careful attention to what I'm about to say.

I love and adore all of you guys. I really do.

If you feel that you are being wrongly treated by someone, please come to me.
If you feel super frustrated and need to vent to someone, please come to me.
If you feel that myself or my ruggedly handsome co-host have been unfair about something, please come to me.
If there is *anything* on your mind that you want to talk about, please come to me. I'm a *really* good listener.


I want EVERYONE playing this game to have the best and most fun playing it ever. This includes not only the people having said back and forths but the OTHER players who are made uncomfortable by tense situations that feel like they are moving into the land of personal.

I love and adore all of you, and because of that - I WILL NOT HESITATE TO TAKE MATTERS INTO MY OWN HANDS if this thread continues to down that path. You do NOT want to see me go momma bear. Trust me.

That said - Imma finish eating and get to work on this stuffs. Carry on and HAVE MORE FUN!!

Bea, you're awesome k? I haven't been keeping up, but I noticed this and it made me smile.

[Tangrowth]

zeek, I'm having a hard time deciding where to put it. I think Hedge, Made, or Snowy could be bad, and while I think Snowy has been the most suspicious of the three, I've seen him do this shit before as civ and it's holding me back.

[Tangrowth]

I also think Made is least likely to be bad, but I don't feel confident enough in it to save him, though it seems that's not possible anyway.

[Dom]

Dom, is Snow Dog your number 2 suspicion after Made?

Hm. I'm not sure in exact position, but I doubt I'll be changing my vote.

He's definitely up there. Maybe above you.

MP, really you have to move your vote to ensure you don't come close to being lynched. Really depends on who you suspect the most out of the frontrunners.

Initially, Made said he missed something I said, and subsequently said he misread it. I thought teammates had filled him in on something, and he screwed up. I pressured. Response: lashing out, no u, misrepresentation. Then, he got very angry, and that read as even more baddie. He seems cornered.

Word Count: 50

Like this you mean:

I do, however, redact my statement where I stated that Zeek pointed it out that the others were updated, I went through his posts and misremembered and misaccredited him with that.

No.
I apologized and redacted my statement. Made did no such thing. He lashed out and suspected me for no reason other than I suspected him. You can read his posts and even see where he says he doesn't like suspecting me because it's based in my suspicion of him.

[Marmot]

I do find Mades behavior change interesting. And the way he kinda lashed out, it had more of a cornered baddie feel than anything. I mean we have seen Made lynched as a civ a few times, and he did not have that element of anger.

And THIS was the roll smiley I love:

Reading his final moments in Monty Python, he did lash out just a bit, though at no one in particular. But it is different, I think you're right. In Python, he continued to bring up ideas about other players, pointing things out, trying to be helpful to the very end. Here, he has spent the majority of time just defending himself. Maybe he's not afraid to die? Or maybe the consensus is right?

I think I will move my vote to Made. My vote is not helping on Dana right now.

Linki: MP, you should vote Made.

[birdwithteeth11]

zeek, I'm having a hard time deciding where to put it. I think Hedge, Made, or Snowy could be bad, and while I think Snowy has been the most suspicious of the three, I've seen him do this shit before as civ and it's holding me back.

I'm not having a hard time deciding where to put it if you know what I mean.

[Tangrowth]

I guess I'm switching to Snow Dog for now, just to get it off LC.

Linki MM: Why should I vote Made?

[Enrique]

I guess I'm switching to Snow Dog for now, just to get it off LC.

Linki MM: Why should I vote Made?

To save Snow Dog / Hedgie, duh.

[zeek]

Leave your vote then. Looks like it's over anyway. I just worry about a flurry of late votes.

linki x 10 okay, nvm

[Tangrowth]

Oh nevermind, I didn't read your whole post, i didn't realize you were talking about Made. Lol.

LINKITIS

[Dom]

MM you literally changed opinions on this page. What happened?

[Marmot]

I guess I'm switching to Snow Dog for now, just to get it off LC.

Linki MM: Why should I vote Made?

I don't want you to be lynched. While I'd like to lynch Snow Dog, I think it's too late to pull that one together.

[Dana]

Voting for Snow Dog so I don't miss the time cut off, explanation coming next post.

[Dom]

I'm so confused.

[zeek]

I guess I'm switching to Snow Dog for now, just to get it off LC.

Linki MM: Why should I vote Made?

To save Snow Dog / Hedgie, duh.

linki fuck guys let me post my smiley

[Tangrowth]

Leave your vote then. Looks like it's over anyway. I just worry about a flurry of late votes.

linki x 10 okay, nvm

Yeah, looks like Made is a goner. And yeah, I worry about too especially in a game with changeable votes. That's partially why I asked if anyone was intending on changing their votes.

I guess I'm switching to Snow Dog for now, just to get it off LC.

Linki MM: Why should I vote Made?

To save Snow Dog / Hedgie, duh.

What are you thinking of all this, Enri?

[Gotrees]

Dom: Is there something wrong with misreading something? Just trying to understand.

[Tangrowth]

Linki well maybe not

MM if you feel more confident about Snowy than MAde now's your chance

[Marmot]

MM you literally changed opinions on this page. What happened?

I believe MP is civvie, and don't want him lynched.

[Enrique]

... how is it too late? If you both vote snow dog it's a tie between them.

[Gotrees]

Also: FWIW, with 2 minutes left, I'm pretty convinced that both Hedge and Dana are innocent. Nobody has really heavily defended either of them, and they are both coming across as genuine to me. For a long time Hedge allegedly couldn't even defend herself.

[Marmot]

Linki well maybe not

MM if you feel more confident about Snowy than MAde now's your chance

I didn't think it could work, but done.

Linki: Dana popped in out of nowhere, and I forgot about gotrees vote.

[Tangrowth]

Gotrees, what do you think of Made, did I miss it somewhere or are you unsure?

[Marmot]

Also: FWIW, with 2 minutes left, I'm pretty convinced that both Hedge and Dana are innocent. Nobody has really heavily defended either of them, and they are both coming across as genuine to me. For a long time Hedge allegedly couldn't even defend herself.

Actually, Made has defended Dana all game.

[Dom]

Dom: Is there something wrong with misreading something? Just trying to understand.

I wouldn't mind one or the other.
I do mind when he "missed it"
And then "misread it"
I thought a baddie teammate could have filled him in on something, so he ad-libbed what he said to me.
So, I put pressure on him. Wanted to see if he would act in a way I would expect a baddie to.
He did.

[Hedgeowl]

I am still figuring out the snow dog thing. What is the suspicion on him?

[zeek]

What the fuck just happened. Snow Dog went from 3 to 6.