I agree tbh.
Don't like Sabie's vote on Marmot and her explanation around it at all.
I still don't think Sig/Gavial are teamed. I'd vote Gavial over Sig, independent of what I think of their alignment tbh.
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I agree tbh.
I normally post more but Guillotine is giving me the creeps but i dont want to engage that troll in this game.
I confirm the former is accurate, of course me confirming that does not actually put any additional weight on it being true.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:49 pm Interestingly enough, NAA went from Dyslexicon -> Marmot -> Sabie
If I remember correctly. They aren't posting their votes but I think they've jumped twice now.
I still think Marmot is >rand!scum. Sabie had weird progression on Marmot, so I don't see them as necessarily anti-teamed even though Sabie was voting Marmot (I also could see Marmot telling his teammates they could bus if they need to). If Sable flips wolf, I'll look further at that tomorrow, but for now I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives because it tends to lead me to confbias rather than form good reads, so my read on them is more-or-less independent of each other.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:58 pmwhere does marmot fit in your mind right now if you're voting SabieSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:54 pm So I just did a meta-dive on Sabie and was about to vote there, but now there are 5 voters, one of which is NotAnAxehole voting without saying anything in thread...
I still kinda want to vote there, but I don't feel nearly as good about it as I did before I saw the wagon...
[VOTE: Sabie12] aubergine
Yep definitely Town!LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:30 pm I can possibly see a world where Jack is Mafia and Guillotine's vote on Gav being a desperation move to 50/50 the lynch so a Mafia isn't offed.
For now I'm going to switch to Marmot, but if people don't get on so we can actually decide a lynch instead of randoming it I'll throw my vote onto one of the other wagons.
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine
Marmot wasn’t there.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:16 pm It's more now just a question if the Sabie wagon was actually town formed, or if the Mafia felt it was a good idea to switch to it instead of Marmot due to the pressure on Marmot's wagon.
I’m town and they are probably town.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:15 pm Could be distancing, but I suspect 1 Mafia between Gav/Sabie not both.
I expressed a town read on 2 of them and you know this your just purposely being rude and playing dumb.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:31 pmYah, really. Why wouldn't he want Martin, Dolby and NAA be hit with CFD then? Has he expressed a townread on all three?MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:20 amreally?Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:38 amWait.. did you just TMI Martin and Dolby town?
Ok fine. You can be scum
I retract my town read on you.
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
Is this regardless of flip?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:19 pm If there is a Mafia on I suspect Martin or NAA, probably Martin because I feel like NAA is just being NAA.
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:19 pm Martin's inclusion in the CFD lacked justification from what I saw.
NAA obviously just likes to CFD and isn't posting anyways.
Tony was there to begin with.
Obviously me and Guillotine were talking about forming it.
Sean gave a reasoning to join it, but IDK. Feels town, but could still be Mafia just not wanting to give no reason not to join.
If there is a Mafia on I suspect Martin or NAA, probably Martin because I feel like NAA is just being NAA.
I think more town are on it then not but Guillo/Sean I’m worry about, especially Gullio.
I could be wrong on you I’ll admit.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:24 pm I read Gavial in the Baby Heist, where he was scum. And unfortunately, I think he's town his game. Rip. He didn't really ask many for their reads in the Baby game, he fluffed more and joked more, and seemed a bit more detached. It's a bit of a different vibe. They tunnelled me all D1 for no reason there too though. Seems to be just what Gavial does. I'd still won't object to a chop on him, cause I'm not totally confident and I wouldn't feel bad if he flips town.
Well I think if Sabie flips Mafia the entire CFD analysis is thrown out the window.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:24 pmIs this regardless of flip?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:19 pm If there is a Mafia on I suspect Martin or NAA, probably Martin because I feel like NAA is just being NAA.
I know some people don't like pre-flipping but I would like to know if you do that.
Was his approach to Gav partnered? Is that why he sounded like he was just making conversation?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:43 pmI'm voting him because his "oh haha I'm here" with an added "wait, did scum already flip?" seems performative, as the kids says. I also think he was asking questions to Gavial that he didn't care much to get the answer from. Like, he made conversation, but I don't think he cared to do anything else than just get some posts out. I didn't like it. Jack is hard to read, but I've done well doing it in the past. But yeah, not a very confident read either way tbh.
And this is why i dont engage with him.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:05 pmI normally post more but Guillotine is giving me the creeps but i dont want to engage that troll in this game.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:26 pm [VOTE: Sabbie] aubergine without a particularly good reason to do so besides perfecting that to cws
Guillo/Dizzy/Jack still very likely aligned.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:27 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Because he said something I haven't heard town say yet about Gavial's play.
Could be or could not be. But I tend to think Gav is town, unfortunately.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:27 pmWas his approach to Gav partnered? Is that why he sounded like he was just making conversation?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:43 pmI'm voting him because his "oh haha I'm here" with an added "wait, did scum already flip?" seems performative, as the kids says. I also think he was asking questions to Gavial that he didn't care much to get the answer from. Like, he made conversation, but I don't think he cared to do anything else than just get some posts out. I didn't like it. Jack is hard to read, but I've done well doing it in the past. But yeah, not a very confident read either way tbh.
Well, Sabie is in the lead anyway.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:31 pm Curious why you chose to try and go for a new wagon than anything else Dizzy.
You said you're fine with both Gav and Sabie, but don't vote either and now say you think Gav is Town.
Thanks for spewing me town if you are a wolf.Gavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:27 pmI could be wrong on you I’ll admit.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:24 pm I read Gavial in the Baby Heist, where he was scum. And unfortunately, I think he's town his game. Rip. He didn't really ask many for their reads in the Baby game, he fluffed more and joked more, and seemed a bit more detached. It's a bit of a different vibe. They tunnelled me all D1 for no reason there too though. Seems to be just what Gavial does. I'd still won't object to a chop on him, cause I'm not totally confident and I wouldn't feel bad if he flips town.
I don’t think I am but I could be.
But Guillo is wolf.
Ok this guy is town because we are thinking the same shit.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:31 pm Curious why you chose to try and go for a new wagon than anything else Dizzy.
You said you're fine with both Gav and Sabie, but don't vote either and now say you think Gav is Town.
Me/Dizzy/GavGavial wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:28 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:26 pm [VOTE: Sabbie] aubergine without a particularly good reason to do so besides perfecting that to cwsGuillo/Dizzy/Jack still very likely aligned.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:27 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine
Because he said something I haven't heard town say yet about Gavial's play.
In your opinion, is Gavial a polarized player?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:35 pmWell, Sabie is in the lead anyway.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:31 pm Curious why you chose to try and go for a new wagon than anything else Dizzy.
You said you're fine with both Gav and Sabie, but don't vote either and now say you think Gav is Town.
I know several people have been scum reading Sig, and I think there's a decent chance he's mafia.
In fact, I think Sabie and Sig can both be mafia, cause I remember their soft ball interaction.
I'd rather have Sig as a competing wagon though, and I usually do prefer competing wagons instead of one large one, but I know some people don't.
I town lean Gavial after rereading his D1 from the last game we played and he was mafia. He seems different here in a significant enough way.
It's basically just shade while saying he thinks he's town.sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:03 pmIs gavial usually high content mafia member?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:56 pm Gavial might be town after all. Hard to tell with him, so interested to see what others think.
Since I'm liking the level of though and quality of his posts atm
I've done that plenty of times lol. =pGuillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:40 pmOk this guy is town because we are thinking the same shit.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:31 pm Curious why you chose to try and go for a new wagon than anything else Dizzy.
You said you're fine with both Gav and Sabie, but don't vote either and now say you think Gav is Town.
Bare in mind that Dizzy never ever buss their partners.
I thought he was, but he was able to fool most players in his last scum game, including Alison. So probably not very.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:41 pmIn your opinion, is Gavial a polarized player?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:35 pmWell, Sabie is in the lead anyway.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:31 pm Curious why you chose to try and go for a new wagon than anything else Dizzy.
You said you're fine with both Gav and Sabie, but don't vote either and now say you think Gav is Town.
I know several people have been scum reading Sig, and I think there's a decent chance he's mafia.
In fact, I think Sabie and Sig can both be mafia, cause I remember their soft ball interaction.
I'd rather have Sig as a competing wagon though, and I usually do prefer competing wagons instead of one large one, but I know some people don't.
I town lean Gavial after rereading his D1 from the last game we played and he was mafia. He seems different here in a significant enough way.
Then why search for meta to read him when you are highly capable of reading any player based on behavioral petterns and agenda?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:46 pmI thought he was, but he was able to fool most players in his last scum game, including Alison. So probably not very.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:41 pmIn your opinion, is Gavial a polarized player?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:35 pmWell, Sabie is in the lead anyway.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:31 pm Curious why you chose to try and go for a new wagon than anything else Dizzy.
You said you're fine with both Gav and Sabie, but don't vote either and now say you think Gav is Town.
I know several people have been scum reading Sig, and I think there's a decent chance he's mafia.
In fact, I think Sabie and Sig can both be mafia, cause I remember their soft ball interaction.
I'd rather have Sig as a competing wagon though, and I usually do prefer competing wagons instead of one large one, but I know some people don't.
I town lean Gavial after rereading his D1 from the last game we played and he was mafia. He seems different here in a significant enough way.
Jesus christ what a question.Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:48 pmThen why search for meta to read him when you are highly capable of reading any player based on behavioral petterns and agenda?