Team Fortress Mafia [END]

[MacDougall]

We should always out Nanook over Jack I think.
Jack at the very least was on Sabie even when Sabie was 20 seconds from being lynched D1.
Unlike Nanook who switched to Sean to save Sabie.

Ehhhh I'm not sure about dis.

So you're saying Jack hard busses sabie?

nah I think Jack is probably town... I'm just not so sure nanook is the optimal person to kill from the sabie voters... not to say he isn't I just am currently sort of pondering the notion that sabie was bussed by not Jack.

[MacDougall]

I did a bit of an iso of jackly diddly and think he's town mostly from a post that nobody will agree with me on... not cuz of his vote.

[Guillotine]

Ok it’s past midnight I’m gonna crash

Oh shit, me too.

I'm just gonna sheep Mac today. I gotta work 12 hours tomorrow. fucking holidays when will they be over.

@MacDougall consider yourself a double voter. (This is not a claim silly people)

[Dolby]

We should always out Nanook over Jack I think.
Jack at the very least was on Sabie even when Sabie was 20 seconds from being lynched D1.
Unlike Nanook who switched to Sean to save Sabie.

Ehhhh I'm not sure about dis.

So you're saying Jack hard busses sabie?

nah I think Jack is probably town... I'm just not so sure nanook is the optimal person to kill from the sabie voters... not to say he isn't I just am currently sort of pondering the notion that sabie was bussed by not Jack.

Who would be that optimal person

And If you say me… just no

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[MacDougall]

We should always out Nanook over Jack I think.
Jack at the very least was on Sabie even when Sabie was 20 seconds from being lynched D1.
Unlike Nanook who switched to Sean to save Sabie.

Ehhhh I'm not sure about dis.

So you're saying Jack hard busses sabie?

nah I think Jack is probably town... I'm just not so sure nanook is the optimal person to kill from the sabie voters... not to say he isn't I just am currently sort of pondering the notion that sabie was bussed by not Jack.

Who would be that optimal person

And If you say me… just no

Why not you. What makes you town?

[MacDougall]

Ok it’s past midnight I’m gonna crash

Oh shit, me too.

I'm just gonna sheep Mac today. I gotta work 12 hours tomorrow. fucking holidays when will they be over.

@MacDougall consider yourself a double voter. (This is not a claim silly people)

um ok

[MacDougall]

@LinearPoint why did you say if the maf kill was blocked it was Nook? I only see one RB claim and it's LC blocking Jack?

[MacDougall]

@DrWilgy is probably always mafia here too fwiw.

Also think sig is pretty likely mafia.

Don't like Falcon either.

[LinearPoint]

@LinearPoint why did you say if the maf kill was blocked it was Nook? I only see one RB claim and it's LC blocking Jack?

Well Dolby also claimed to have roleblocked Nanook.

[MacDougall]

I think Axe is probably town for pushing me/Dolby over and over. Feels like something he'd get fixated on. Whether he's right or wrong I believe he believes it.

Do wonder why Axe doesn't wanna push Nanook tho. I did ask and he said Nook can be mafia but there's been no actual concerted effort to push there.

But I did feel he was sincere when he said he never rands mafia with Nanook.

By golly this list is not one that suits me to solve through lol.

[MacDougall]

@LinearPoint why did you say if the maf kill was blocked it was Nook? I only see one RB claim and it's LC blocking Jack?

Well Dolby also claimed to have roleblocked Nanook.

I missed that un. Thanks.

[MacDougall]

Dolby probably town for that yeah.

[MacDougall]

@NotAnAxehole I'm town red heavy and self saved last night. Just putting that here for you to read. Also you @DrWilgy.

NAA why you no push Nanook?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME who do you want to chop today?

[Gavial]

@DrWilgy is probably always mafia here too fwiw.

Also think sig is pretty likely mafia.

Don't like Falcon either.

I honestly think Wilgy is very likely town due to the massive amount of Null he has and how much wolf equity others have and town equity other have.

I think Sig has been decently Townie so I don’t think it’s them.

Nanook - Jack - Falcon is there PoE
And if TSP/Marmot are alive during a later time in the game they both need to go.

[Gavial]

Dolby probably town for that yeah.

Yet you doubted my Lime Coke, LinearPoint, Dolby top towns read.

[Gavial]

I think Axe is probably town for pushing me/Dolby over and over. Feels like something he'd get fixated on. Whether he's right or wrong I believe he believes it.

Do wonder why Axe doesn't wanna push Nanook tho. I did ask and he said Nook can be mafia but there's been no actual concerted effort to push there.

But I did feel he was sincere when he said he never rands mafia with Nanook.

By golly this list is not one that suits me to solve through lol.

Don’t worry I have the solve for you just follow my list.

[MacDougall]

I think Axe is probably town for pushing me/Dolby over and over. Feels like something he'd get fixated on. Whether he's right or wrong I believe he believes it.

Do wonder why Axe doesn't wanna push Nanook tho. I did ask and he said Nook can be mafia but there's been no actual concerted effort to push there.

But I did feel he was sincere when he said he never rands mafia with Nanook.

By golly this list is not one that suits me to solve through lol.

Don’t worry I have the solve for you just follow my list.

if you stop overreacting every time I tinfoil you maybe I could get there but sussing everyone to see what happens is kinda my thing and you go nuts every time lol

[MacDougall]

@DrWilgy is probably always mafia here too fwiw.

Also think sig is pretty likely mafia.

Don't like Falcon either.

I honestly think Wilgy is very likely town due to the massive amount of Null he has and how much wolf equity others have and town equity other have.

I think Sig has been decently Townie so I don’t think it’s them.

Nanook - Jack - Falcon is there PoE
And if TSP/Marmot are alive during a later time in the game they both need to go.

ok I am town

now assume you know that for a second

what chance do you think there is a mafia voting for me right now between naa and wilgy?

keep in mind this is a high percentage read lol

[MacDougall]

i got out the old laptop and everyone left fuck

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@LinearPoint
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@falcon45ca
@Dolby
@sig
@TonyStarkPrime


Votes onto JackofHearts he's outed mechanically.

Confusing poll if true

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NotAnAxehole I'm town red heavy and self saved last night. Just putting that here for you to read. Also you @DrWilgy.

NAA why you no push Nanook?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME who do you want to chop today?

I'm pretty disengaged from this game, sorry. Just...has not been the most fun environment, for me.

Anyways ill probably just sheep Marmot at eod, tbh. Unless there's mech, which lime seems to think there is from his tag of me, but like...I'm not reading enough to verify that and the poll seems wonky if it is a red, and im picking up that he blocked someone and jumped the gun on it being a red, from the like 5 posts I've read today? Not sure how meaningful that is in a setup with like a dozen blocks, it probably means *something* i guess, but not really a smoking gun most of the time the way it can be in other setups.

[Lime Coke]

@LinearPoint
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@falcon45ca
@Dolby
@sig
@TonyStarkPrime


Votes onto JackofHearts he's outed mechanically.

Confusing poll if true

Well now I have my role block on Jack. Dolby has claimed to have roleblocked you. So might need something out of you if you're town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@LinearPoint
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@falcon45ca
@Dolby
@sig
@TonyStarkPrime


Votes onto JackofHearts he's outed mechanically.

Confusing poll if true

Well now I have my role block on Jack. Dolby has claimed to have roleblocked you. So might need something out of you if you're town.

I very much doubt that's going to happen today

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did gav really aim a sniper shot at Marmot? I'm reading functionally random bits of the thread, please tell me he was just reaction testing

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Really the only reason I put Nanook over NAA is the fact that NAA is so blatant in his anti-townness and Nanook tries to be shy about it.

You have no experience with any of these people right?

Cuz NAA and Gavial are the two most openly pro wolf wolfrands you will ever see and Nanook isn't far behind them.

Sometimes I get bored and townside!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did gav really aim a sniper shot at Marmot? I'm reading functionally random bits of the thread, please tell me he was just reaction testing

Bump

[MacDougall]

Did gav really aim a sniper shot at Marmot? I'm reading functionally random bits of the thread, please tell me he was just reaction testing

Bump

You told me to not worry about him in games why are you doing it now ya wolfy fuque.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did gav really aim a sniper shot at Marmot? I'm reading functionally random bits of the thread, please tell me he was just reaction testing

Bump

You told me to not worry about him in games why are you doing it now ya wolfy fuque.

When did I tell you that

Sounds like bad advice

[MacDougall]

Did gav really aim a sniper shot at Marmot? I'm reading functionally random bits of the thread, please tell me he was just reaction testing

Bump

You told me to not worry about him in games why are you doing it now ya wolfy fuque.

When did I tell you that

Sounds like bad advice

You've been like lol that's just Seth you should just not care. You bad bad bad baddie.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did gav really aim a sniper shot at Marmot? I'm reading functionally random bits of the thread, please tell me he was just reaction testing

Bump

You told me to not worry about him in games why are you doing it now ya wolfy fuque.

When did I tell you that

Sounds like bad advice

You've been like lol that's just Seth you should just not care. You bad bad bad baddie.

I mean yes you shouldn't care on, like, a personal level

I don't think that's the same as ignoring anything he does in a game tho lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways I should be hard cleared from being a sabie teammate tbh, I dont think I'd ever save a teammate then immediately turn around and have them do the n1 kill, especially in a game with so many potential blocks

[NotAnAxehole]

fwiw I was beginning to suspect Guilo last phase (as I couldn't see anything convincingly towny about them) but considering Sabie flipped Evil Engi and Guilo maintained and/or even furthered his suspicion of me on D2 despite the fact I claimed engi earlier and Sabie got checked

spews Guilo as town and cannot be possibly a wolf bussing unless he fully intended to indict himself as being a poor solver so far wrt my slot

This is scum. Townreads me while he discredits me as a poor solver, I rather be scumread to be honest that accept that suck ass townread to be frank.

I correctly scum read Sabie since day 1, yah I'm a poor solver alright.

I didn't get that at all, I read that he thinks you're town because you're a one dimensional player who thinks certain actions can be performed by mafia, but not by town which is highly limiting and results in spew.

[NotAnAxehole]

Anyways I should be hard cleared from being a sabie teammate tbh, I dont think I'd ever save a teammate then immediately turn around and have them do the n1 kill, especially in a game with so many potential blocks

This is a good post, I didn't think about this but why anyone would have Sabie perform the NK is beyond me.

[NotAnAxehole]

Guys, TWTBW only applies if you don't know what is alignment indicative... It's pretty much the same line of thought as someone who thinks rockets are some form of sorcery. Lack of understanding

[NotAnAxehole]

@MacDougall let's say I believe you for a second, what do you think about Lime Coke. Did not vote Sabie D1, D3 he claims a role block on Jack as being mechanically definitive when it's obviously not - even with no knowledge of the set up, you know that there are 2 of each role. Therefore any one action OBVIOUSLY can't be viewed this way.

[Guillotine]

And I mean if Gav is already basically taking random shots at probably townies is it really that different to random his shot?

who are your scum?

Currently I don't know. No one really stands out as extremely obvious.
Nanook I'm putting at about 99% guarenteed Mafia.

You cant make the cake and eat it too LP. Either no one stands out or Nanook is 99% guaranteed Mafia.

[Guillotine]

And I mean if Gav is already basically taking random shots at probably townies is it really that different to random his shot?

who are your scum?

Currently I don't know. No one really stands out as extremely obvious.
Nanook I'm putting at about 99% guarenteed Mafia.
Jack might be just because of the RB really, and the last one is between Gullio, Martin, Mac, NAA, or Dolby.

I’m not fully there yet but yeah Nanook sus as hell. I blocked him last night

Guillo imo has no place in the PoE with that list of names

Why, Dolby?

And Why @LinearPoint ? Why am I in that PoE?

[Guillotine]

Just not this level of pushing mech clear townies and proposing their deaths though

Nah this is carbon copy of Akemi Homura the only difference being he has mech fuckery to further cloud shit. In Akemi he tunneled all the town no matter how mech clear. That's just what he does.

And you think he'd play exactly the same way as you saw him play last time as a wolf? Don't you think he'd change it up a little bit or something? If that is true i dont know if should call that dumb or ballsy tbh.

[Guillotine]

fwiw I was beginning to suspect Guilo last phase (as I couldn't see anything convincingly towny about them) but considering Sabie flipped Evil Engi and Guilo maintained and/or even furthered his suspicion of me on D2 despite the fact I claimed engi earlier and Sabie got checked

spews Guilo as town and cannot be possibly a wolf bussing unless he fully intended to indict himself as being a poor solver so far wrt my slot

This is scum. Townreads me while he discredits me as a poor solver, I rather be scumread to be honest that accept that suck ass townread to be frank.

I correctly scum read Sabie since day 1, yah I'm a poor solver alright.

I didn't get that at all, I read that he thinks you're town because you're a one dimensional player who thinks certain actions can be performed by mafia, but not by town which is highly limiting and results in spew.

If that is the case, that is yet another unnatural thought as he has seen me play before, not to mention i host the most mind bending and bastard games.
Ether way, he sought to discredit ne while townreading me and that is scum indicative as i was right about Sabie. If i was a day vig, i'd kill him for it.

[Guillotine]

Guys, TWTBW only applies if you don't know what is alignment indicative... It's pretty much the same line of thought as someone who thinks rockets are some form of sorcery. Lack of understanding

This is so ironic coming from you. I giggled a little bit tbhtbh.

[Guillotine]

Guys, TWTBW only applies if you don't know what is alignment indicative... It's pretty much the same line of thought as someone who thinks rockets are some form of sorcery. Lack of understanding

This is so ironic coming from you. I giggled a little bit tbhtbh.

Your actions this game qualify as TWTBW, if that term shouldn't exist, then you should be PoE.

[NotAnAxehole]

fwiw I was beginning to suspect Guilo last phase (as I couldn't see anything convincingly towny about them) but considering Sabie flipped Evil Engi and Guilo maintained and/or even furthered his suspicion of me on D2 despite the fact I claimed engi earlier and Sabie got checked

spews Guilo as town and cannot be possibly a wolf bussing unless he fully intended to indict himself as being a poor solver so far wrt my slot

This is scum. Townreads me while he discredits me as a poor solver, I rather be scumread to be honest that accept that suck ass townread to be frank.

I correctly scum read Sabie since day 1, yah I'm a poor solver alright.

I didn't get that at all, I read that he thinks you're town because you're a one dimensional player who thinks certain actions can be performed by mafia, but not by town which is highly limiting and results in spew.

If that is the case, that is yet another unnatural thought as he has seen me play before, not to mention i host the most mind bending and bastard games.
Ether way, he sought to discredit ne while townreading me and that is scum indicative as i was right about Sabie. If i was a day vig, i'd kill him for it.

You were just sheeping me on Sabie.

[Guillotine]

fwiw I was beginning to suspect Guilo last phase (as I couldn't see anything convincingly towny about them) but considering Sabie flipped Evil Engi and Guilo maintained and/or even furthered his suspicion of me on D2 despite the fact I claimed engi earlier and Sabie got checked

spews Guilo as town and cannot be possibly a wolf bussing unless he fully intended to indict himself as being a poor solver so far wrt my slot

This is scum. Townreads me while he discredits me as a poor solver, I rather be scumread to be honest that accept that suck ass townread to be frank.

I correctly scum read Sabie since day 1, yah I'm a poor solver alright.

I didn't get that at all, I read that he thinks you're town because you're a one dimensional player who thinks certain actions can be performed by mafia, but not by town which is highly limiting and results in spew.

If that is the case, that is yet another unnatural thought as he has seen me play before, not to mention i host the most mind bending and bastard games.
Ether way, he sought to discredit ne while townreading me and that is scum indicative as i was right about Sabie. If i was a day vig, i'd kill him for it.

You were just sheeping me on Sabie.

Pffffffff

You saved Sabie.

[NotAnAxehole]

Guys, TWTBW only applies if you don't know what is alignment indicative... It's pretty much the same line of thought as someone who thinks rockets are some form of sorcery. Lack of understanding

This is so ironic coming from you. I giggled a little bit tbhtbh.

There's no irony here, only a lack of understanding.

[NotAnAxehole]

fwiw I was beginning to suspect Guilo last phase (as I couldn't see anything convincingly towny about them) but considering Sabie flipped Evil Engi and Guilo maintained and/or even furthered his suspicion of me on D2 despite the fact I claimed engi earlier and Sabie got checked

spews Guilo as town and cannot be possibly a wolf bussing unless he fully intended to indict himself as being a poor solver so far wrt my slot

This is scum. Townreads me while he discredits me as a poor solver, I rather be scumread to be honest that accept that suck ass townread to be frank.

I correctly scum read Sabie since day 1, yah I'm a poor solver alright.

I didn't get that at all, I read that he thinks you're town because you're a one dimensional player who thinks certain actions can be performed by mafia, but not by town which is highly limiting and results in spew.

If that is the case, that is yet another unnatural thought as he has seen me play before, not to mention i host the most mind bending and bastard games.
Ether way, he sought to discredit ne while townreading me and that is scum indicative as i was right about Sabie. If i was a day vig, i'd kill him for it.

You were just sheeping me on Sabie.

Pffffffff

You saved Sabie.

Fine observation skills

[Guillotine]

fwiw I was beginning to suspect Guilo last phase (as I couldn't see anything convincingly towny about them) but considering Sabie flipped Evil Engi and Guilo maintained and/or even furthered his suspicion of me on D2 despite the fact I claimed engi earlier and Sabie got checked

spews Guilo as town and cannot be possibly a wolf bussing unless he fully intended to indict himself as being a poor solver so far wrt my slot

This is scum. Townreads me while he discredits me as a poor solver, I rather be scumread to be honest that accept that suck ass townread to be frank.

I correctly scum read Sabie since day 1, yah I'm a poor solver alright.

I didn't get that at all, I read that he thinks you're town because you're a one dimensional player who thinks certain actions can be performed by mafia, but not by town which is highly limiting and results in spew.

If that is the case, that is yet another unnatural thought as he has seen me play before, not to mention i host the most mind bending and bastard games.
Ether way, he sought to discredit ne while townreading me and that is scum indicative as i was right about Sabie. If i was a day vig, i'd kill him for it.

You were just sheeping me on Sabie.

Pffffffff

You saved Sabie.

Fine observation skills

The very best. Bow to me peasant.

[NotAnAxehole]

fwiw I was beginning to suspect Guilo last phase (as I couldn't see anything convincingly towny about them) but considering Sabie flipped Evil Engi and Guilo maintained and/or even furthered his suspicion of me on D2 despite the fact I claimed engi earlier and Sabie got checked

spews Guilo as town and cannot be possibly a wolf bussing unless he fully intended to indict himself as being a poor solver so far wrt my slot

This is scum. Townreads me while he discredits me as a poor solver, I rather be scumread to be honest that accept that suck ass townread to be frank.

I correctly scum read Sabie since day 1, yah I'm a poor solver alright.

I didn't get that at all, I read that he thinks you're town because you're a one dimensional player who thinks certain actions can be performed by mafia, but not by town which is highly limiting and results in spew.

If that is the case, that is yet another unnatural thought as he has seen me play before, not to mention i host the most mind bending and bastard games.
Ether way, he sought to discredit ne while townreading me and that is scum indicative as i was right about Sabie. If i was a day vig, i'd kill him for it.

Have you ever considered that some people in this game other than me don't respect you as a player, similar to how you view me when you think I'm town?

This came up when I read a post from Mac that did the same discrediting of a "town read" as you're claiming Martin did to you.

Highly doubt it's alignment indicative

[NotAnAxehole]

For me

Wilgy
Falcon
Jack
Gavial
Dolby

is the POE

which is astonishing because it means that the town saved sabie from a hardcore bus...

which honestly makes sense lol

This post doesn't make sense by the way, it feels manufactured purely for the sake of being town read.

[NotAnAxehole]

I'm not saying it's alignment indicative for mac fwiw