Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]

#1551

So what was that supposed to be? I'm confused.

#1552

Okay if that's a PR kill then I'm fine with how my reads are.

#1553

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:37 am So what was that supposed to be? I'm confused.

Beats the heck out of me.

#1554

On a more serious note, if one of Alexa, Mac or Nook is mafia I'm going to find it hard to catch any of them especially if it's the 1st two that has a mafia.
That being said I think this is still a tinfoil in light of Dizzy likely being a PR kill.

#1555

Anyway moving on from site problems, we still have a game to play.

#1556

Seems I'll be calling it a night. Tbf Gira wouldn't be the worst wagon i can think of. Though I probably won't vote as I'm scared of quick hammers now.

#1557

I thought Dizzy was clearly softing PR so I'm not surprised by that kill really, also I don't think he really fosed me he just had it as tinfoil

Why did ya'll early hammer I didn't get to read at all it was literally Christmas .-.

#1558

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:11 am I thought Dizzy was clearly softing PR so I'm not surprised by that kill really, also I don't think he really fosed me he just had it as tinfoil

Why did ya'll early hammer I didn't get to read at all it was literally Christmas .-.

Don't blame me, it wasn't even made clear hammer was a thing.
That's why I'm not playing on this website again after this.
Sorry this has majorly put me off.

#1559

If I'm to play again, some serious effort has to be made to convince me to come back.

#1560

Remind me to never ever sub in again. I'd rather beg for death than sub in.

#1561

Putting rules in spoiler? WTF is that?

#1562

I'm so majorly pissed off that I could have stayed out of this, yet another example why subbing in and me have an awful history.

#1563

Is this the time I just ask to be voted out? You should have killed me over Finger so I don't have to endure this hell.

#1564

I'm putting my vote on sleep and intend to never vote anyone today. I don't trust it when there isn't a hammer value posted in the 1st place.
I don't know why TF you put them at L-1. What the hell guys?

#1565

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:11 am I thought Dizzy was clearly softing PR so I'm not surprised by that kill really, also I don't think he really fosed me he just had it as tinfoil

Why did ya'll early hammer I didn't get to read at all it was literally Christmas .-.

I still have you as town, though I wish I died over Finger.

#1566

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:24 am I'm putting my vote on sleep and intend to never vote anyone today. I don't trust it when there isn't a hammer value posted in the 1st place.
I don't know why TF you put them at L-1. What the hell guys?

How about you guys tell the sub in if there is a hammer or not?
Is that so much to ask? Dafuq?

#1567

I'm going off to bed, and I don't know if I'll get a good night. I'm so pissed off that there wasn't even a hammer value posted in the 1st place.
So bad.

#1568

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:23 am Is this the time I just ask to be voted out? You should have killed me over Finger so I don't have to endure this hell.

Whoa there cowboy, settle down.

Are you town?

#1569

ok relax, i'm not blaming you specifically, i'd just wanted to actually spend time reading so was a bit irritated but i know it was an accident! i was busy the last few days anyway so may not have made a huge difference

do we not get to know the details of the barista role?

#1570

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:36 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:44 am I just want to kill Gira and crich rn tbh and figure it out from there if necessary
What if Gira flips town? Wouldn't you want to reevaluate your PoE as a 2nd green flip would tell us that our consensus PoE is wildly off base.

I'll reassess if you both flip green

#1571

CRichard wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:18 am
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:11 am I thought Dizzy was clearly softing PR so I'm not surprised by that kill really, also I don't think he really fosed me he just had it as tinfoil

Why did ya'll early hammer I didn't get to read at all it was literally Christmas .-.
Don't blame me, it wasn't even made clear hammer was a thing.
That's why I'm not playing on this website again after this.
Sorry this has majorly put me off.

If you don't want to that's fine but this is not the time or place to be doing this tbh

#1572

Marmot did say there was a hammer in the OP fwiw

#1573

Who cares about hammer, it happened already and FS was going to be stuck in POE so whatever.

Just move on and talk about reads and shit so that we can get the game moving in a better direction for town.

#1574

@MacDougall

You have Falcon as town from what I remember, what's the reason for it?

#1575

wtf is a barista

#1576

the idea that i kill dizzy over someone who was pushing the wagon day 1 is fairly ???

atp seems fairly straightforward there was in fact a bus but eh

back later

#1577

oh and crich is very much town, hate what he's doing but it is almost assuredly town so take him out

#1578

okay i had my coffee let's go

#1579

I was questioning my Mac townread but remembered that he had that stuff with him team reading Alexa and I with Wilgy. Reaction test or not it's still something I don't think Mac even thinks about touching as mafia because he knows how I'd react.
So Mac stays as a townread.

#1580

this isn't really a reads list it's just preliminary thoughts

crichard > painfully obviously town, don't think esooa's salt was scum salt, posts here are ugly but almost certainly town
lime coke > very much in town mode basically no doubt here

staypositivefriend > in speaking with her i haven't felt like she was scummy (as i type this i realize this way of reading people has almost always failed for me). i think she's in a similar boat though where she probably just busses day 1? as it is how she handled the EoD would just be stupid in that she neither tried to save wilgy or get credit from voting him (iirc)

falcon > had felt was being towny for him, probably need to refresh this read

dolby > alison did basically nothing, would not be shocked if this is scum, admittedly i have paid essentially no attention to any of dolby's posts

nanook > find him suspect on a tonal level, apparently meta is doesn't bus much? idfk
mac > memories flash in my mind that he busses hard as mafia, still think the overall intensity shown here is more characteristic of his towngame from what i understand, probably a townlean but not a confident bet the game type one
alexa > still probably the most suspect of the wilgy voters simply because so much of her posts around him were weird

#1581

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:18 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:17 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Esooa + Wilgy probs town
Talk to me about this. Dizzy vote good take.

Esooa + Me town, porque?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:17 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:22 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:17 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:17 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Esooa + Wilgy probs town
why this
I think #157 is a lot more likely to be posted by town Wilgy by scum Wilgy.

I am townreading you for having good takes.
Fair

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:18 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:25 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:24 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:22 pm Everyone stack votes on [VOTE: Mac] aubergine with me.
Another post Wilgy doesn't make if mafia.
Why?
He has no balls.
I will be confused and somewhat insulted.

went to look at wilgy's iso

i feel like wilgy glomming on going "good take" on alison following his vote on a town is anti-partnery?

my mental image is that alison probably doesn't go for the "immediately try to shield a partner on day 1" strategy as mafia but i don't have any data to back that up with

#1582

like blahh dolbys posts arent good but he barely had time

#1583

wilgy had, like, 0 mentions of falcon at all

hrmery

#1584

yeah falcon is probably mafia

#1585

This was kind of why I pinged Mac an hour ago asking him about his Falcon read. There's gotta be an odd one out that flew under the radar.

#1586

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:47 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:44 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:43 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:38 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:36 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:34 pm well, I think you're town SPF

Wanna talk about anything
thats the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me

do u feel strongly about anyone being town yet?
Fingersplints has the best posts, or maybe Falcon. Illario's were reasonable, and so were Alisons
was #178 a joke, then?
I am the best Wilgy reader on the site
From my understanding of Wilgy's playstyle, that would mean a coin toss read percentage.

What makes Wilgy town here in your eyes?

the only thing he actually said about wilgy on day 1

#1587

oh dizzy was on wilgy lol i totally didn't check

#1588

If Falcon flips mafia then maybe his D1 vote ending on Nanook clears Nanook entirely?

#1589

i don't want to do preflips i'd rather just focus on today

#1590

Fair enough.

#1591

after the laziest amount of research possible i have decided i am not comfortable with clearing alison's slot

so like, falcon or dolby probs

if neither is mafia we're just screwed

#1592

Funny thing is that I was going to ask SPF about those two (Falcon and Alison/Dolby slot) when I asked her if she had time to respond well enough during Day 2. Unfortunately we ended up quick hammering before that.

#1593

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:20 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
why him?
zomg everyone's so towny

also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
I saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.

At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.

What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol
Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh
Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:44 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm what do you mean irt falcon? idk anything about falcon's ranges, only that TSP said falcon is more inclined to push people as town
Ok, and what are my ranges then?

Falcon has several unexplained call outs and votes, but is town leaned by you? unless you specifically had an issue with my dizzy read, I don't understand it.

would probably vote falcon first here just bc wilgy also didn't really give an actual read on him

#1594

every feeling i have looking back at wilgy says he could be easily theatering with alexa tho and i basically never liked the way she insisted on the read

know no one will bother today but keep it in mind

alternately quote this to laugh at me when it turns out to be completely wrong

#1595

I still haven't caught up tbh

The only new thought I have is Crich is fairly town and coming to the same conclsuions I did on his catchup is a pretty good look

#1596

i think dolby/alexa are moderately unaligned just because i don't think he subs in as mafia and tinfoils his remaining partner so falcon vote probably feels best here

#1597

I've been like Alexa's biggest townreader?

That is not what tinfoiling is?

#1598

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:47 am
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am Here's the rub

Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.

Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.

Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.
I know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500
I didn't speak to timings.
basically what I'm saying is

I feel like Alexa kinda trapped herself on Wilgy before you two made Wilgy always going to be a top 2 wagon about EoD

is that not implying suspicion or what

#1599

like i don't see why you'd claim town was "kinda trapped" on a wagon

#1600

mb i should be voting dolby over falcon

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