Dr. Who Mafia - Night 12

#2951

keys56000000000 wrote:I voted Enrique in reaction to Zeek's vote switch.

... to cause a tie and potentially get the civvie lynched?

#2952

Dom enjoy spot on. Chris

Enrique wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:I voted Enrique in reaction to Zeek's vote switch.
... to cause a tie and potentially get the civvie lynched?

#2953

What are you thinking re: that Enrique quote, zeek?

#2954

MovingPictures07 wrote:What are you thinking re: that Enrique quote, zeek?

keys is trying to keep successfully close

#2955

MovingPictures07 wrote:
zeek wrote:http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 950#p88928

bilboes two vote Golden Genie between them.
still have some time until lynch close.

#2956

Enrique wrote:I'd like a look at your track record so far. A quick skim of the Hall of Fame tells me you've never won a game as a civvie, and I've never seen you lead the charge against a baddie. Can I take a look at your credentials?

It's true I've never won as a civilian. That's because I get Night killed very early. Many of you know that is true. I only get to stick around is when I ruin the civilians myself (Harry Potter). The only reason I made it to the end of The Hobbit was because I bought protections with my gold (and earned a LOT of gold). Someone still tried to kill me.

But look at the other games. I get killed early a LOT.

So what does my Hall of Fame record have to do with my credentials? Why bring it up? Is it to discredit me? Why am I the ONLY person Enrique thought to examine in this manner?

"And I've never seen you lead the charge against a baddie." That's right. I don't do that. Right Dom? Right MP? Right S~V~S? Right Roxy? Right Elohcin? Right bea? Oops, sorry- bea can't answer that.

Chris · #2957

zeek wrote:Dom enjoy spot on. Chris

Enrique wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:I voted Enrique in reaction to Zeek's vote switch.
... to cause a tie and potentially get the civvie lynched?

Which one is he spot on about Zeek?

That I'm Made's teammate, that I slipped and put something to MM in the thread that I meant to put in BTSC (essentially naming me his teammate too), or both?

#2958

zeek wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
zeek wrote:http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 950#p88928

bilboes two vote Golden Genie between them.
still have some time until lynch close.

Yeah, I can only imagine how much this sucks for your schedule.

Don't worry, I'm sure folks will be around.

#2959

Enrique wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:I voted Enrique in reaction to Zeek's vote switch.
... to cause a tie and potentially get the civvie lynched?

I can envisage a scenario in which you and zeek are teammates, and zeek voted for you with the suspicion that Made would get the final vote. Things are getting close for you, so he switched, just to be safe.

#2960

I'm gonna go ahead and vote Made. From what I've read so far since yesterday, it seems the conversation hasn't changed much, so my mind hasn't changed. I've got a shit-ton of grading to do tonight and it's another late Day ending on a "school night," so I likely won't be back until tomorrow sometime.

#2961

Chris wrote:Which one is he spot on about Zeek?

That I'm Made's teammate, that I slipped and put something to MM in the thread that I meant to put in BTSC (essentially naming me his teammate too), or both?

People don't reply in thread lied sudorific vote like they're having antisocial conversation.

keys56000000000 wrote:
Enrique wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:I voted Enrique in reaction to Zeek's vote switch.
... to cause a tie and potentially get the civvie lynched?
I can envisage a scenario in which you and zeek are teammates, and zeek voted for you with the suspicion that Made would get the final vote. Things are getting close for you, so he switched, just to be safe.

#2962

Why did you switch your vote, Zeek?

#2963

Epignosis wrote:
Enrique wrote:I'd like a look at your track record so far. A quick skim of the Hall of Fame tells me you've never won a game as a civvie, and I've never seen you lead the charge against a baddie. Can I take a look at your credentials?
It's true I've never won as a civilian. That's because I get Night killed very early. Many of you know that is true. I only get to stick around is when I ruin the civilians myself (Harry Potter). The only reason I made it to the end of The Hobbit was because I bought protections with my gold (and earned a LOT of gold). Someone still tried to kill me.

But look at the other games. I get killed early a LOT.

So what does my Hall of Fame record have to do with my credentials? Why bring it up? Is it to discredit me? Why am I the ONLY person Enrique thought to examine in this manner?

"And I've never seen you lead the charge against a baddie." That's right. I don't do that. Right Dom? Right MP? Right S~V~S? Right Roxy? Right Elohcin? Right bea? Oops, sorry- bea can't answer that.

You had already responded to this. Why do you think? Because I know you're leading the charge against a civvie right now and because we've disagreed on pretty much everything the whole time we've played together.

I haven't seen you do that, sorry, that's just how it is.

#2964

Can trish read, sir?
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/postin ... 45#pr88953

#2965

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 972#p88953

Chris · #2966

And now, suddenly keys, Zeek is agreeing with Dom about me being a baddie apparently.

Loads of informative actions going on here tonight... LOADS.

LINKI @ zeek: Did you see the post explaining how that "social post" came about?

Also, you don't know me, and yes, I am a stoner, but I'm not a blathering idiot that wouldn't notice that he put something extra in a post. But even if I had, I wouldn't have had a reason why I said what I said.

#2967

Zeek, inb4 you respond with a bunch of gibberish. Quote something from someone that illustrates why you changed you mind.

linki: Fair enough Zeek :o

#2968

Enrique, I haven't seen you lead the charge against Mafia either, but I'm not going to bring that up. Because it's irrelevant. As is your record, whatever that is. Frankly, I haven't seen you leading the charge against anything.

I HAVE, however, in the course of a single event, seen you waste three civilians.

#2969

Yeah, I'm unconviced, Zeek. I don't feel like Dom is putting forth the best argument.

#2970

Chris wrote:And now, suddenly keys, Zeek is agreeing with Dom about me being a baddie apparently.

Loads of informative actions going on here tonight... LOADS.

LINKI @ zeek: Did you see the post explaining how that "social post" came about?

Also, you don't know me, and yes, I am a stoner, but I'm not a blathering idiot that wouldn't notice that he put something extra in a post. But even if I had, I wouldn't have had a reason why I said what I said.

"Suddenly" reinvestment not make me wrong.
conglutination founder hell can I don't to all the questions?
I Flyin High know you and nostology don't care.

#2971

Epignosis wrote:Enrique, I haven't seen you lead the charge against Mafia either, but I'm not going to bring that up. Because it's irrelevant. As is your record, whatever that is. Frankly, I haven't seen you leading the charge against anything.

I HAVE, however, in the course of a single event, seen you waste three civilians.

My point being I wouldn't be so quick to follow you. And no, my vote against juliets1.0 wasn't following your case, before you even bring that up.

Chris · #2972

I'm not liking the way this lynch is lining up. I have a bad feeling it's not going to happen.

I hope I'm wrong...

#2973

Whats not going premonstration happen?

#2974

I see that Dana has not voted yet. Wonder if she is gonna make it? This is her last post, 7:22 AM Saturday:

Dana wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Dana wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Welcome back Snowy! What are your thoughts on the last lynch?
Good one.
I think I was surprised. But more thoughts later on how it went down and the reasons for my voting pattern.
Is Snow Dog 2.0 allowed to talk as or give explanations for Snow Dog 1.0? I'm kind of actually really confused about the people replacing that were already previously in the game. Of course they get new roles and such, but they're still the same person with the same play style and all of that. What are the rules for this? As in, what are they allowed to do or say or talk about?
Why should he be restricted?

This post has a "sour grapes" feel to it, IMO. Like you are annoyed that Snowy did not stay dead.
Not at all! I just wanted to make sure everything was alright since this was a new situation I'd never seen before and I was probably overthinking at 5:30 in the morning.

TH- It's currently 7:20am and I'm still awake from yesterday, but I definitely plan to address your post when I wake up in the late morning/afternoon.

Chris · #2975

zeek wrote:Whats not going premonstration happen?

That Made could be:

Emperor Dalek: The leader of the Dalek race. Your goal is to cleanse the universe of any "unfit races". In other words, kill everyone who is not a Dalek. Your team selects which member will carry out the kill on odd nights. *Secrets* You cannot be lynched until every other member on your team is dead.

#2976

Chris wrote:
zeek wrote:Whats not going premonstration happen?
That Made could be:

Emperor Dalek: The leader of the Dalek race. Your goal is to cleanse the universe of any "unfit races". In other words, kill everyone who is not a Dalek. Your team selects which member will carry out the kill on odd nights. *Secrets* You cannot be lynched until every other member on your team is dead.

That would invalidate all gimlet of there being a save
It traitor also name a scum

#2977

Enrique wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Enrique, I haven't seen you lead the charge against Mafia either, but I'm not going to bring that up. Because it's irrelevant. As is your record, whatever that is. Frankly, I haven't seen you leading the charge against anything.

I HAVE, however, in the course of a single event, seen you waste three civilians.
My point being I wouldn't be so quick to follow you. And no, my vote against juliets1.0 wasn't following your case, before you even bring that up.

So you are telling me that, had I never raised jul1ets' name that day, you would have voted there- is that so?

Chris · #2978

SVS, why bring up Dana? 5 other people haven't voted yet, why not bring them all up?

#2979

Becasue I think she & MM were Made savers. Potentially MP, too. But her vote interests me since I really believe she was not happy to see Snowy back. I am actively interested in how she votes.

#2980

EBWOP, she would be my second choice for a vote.

#2981

Epignosis wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Enrique, I haven't seen you lead the charge against Mafia either, but I'm not going to bring that up. Because it's irrelevant. As is your record, whatever that is. Frankly, I haven't seen you leading the charge against anything.

I HAVE, however, in the course of a single event, seen you waste three civilians.
My point being I wouldn't be so quick to follow you. And no, my vote against juliets1.0 wasn't following your case, before you even bring that up.
So you are telling me that, had I never raised jul1ets' name that day, you would have voted there- is that so?

Yes, I am saying that. You give yourself too much credit.

Chris · #2982

S~V~S wrote:Becasue I think she & MM were Made savers. Potentially MP, too. But her vote interests me since I really believe she was not happy to see Snowy back. I am actively interested in how she votes.

Ok. So you think they made the blatant save of Made? Don't you think that would be awfully ballsy? (Don't misread, I think you know I'd admire a balls move like that) I'm just wondering if you/people are really thinking that's what happened.

#2983

I have been saying this for days, Chris.

Chris · #2984

So then you're saying they made a huge, in-our-faces, balls move?

Cuz damn man... Do you have any fears that Made is Dalek?

#2985

Not as many as you do.

#2986

Enrique wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Enrique, I haven't seen you lead the charge against Mafia either, but I'm not going to bring that up. Because it's irrelevant. As is your record, whatever that is. Frankly, I haven't seen you leading the charge against anything.

I HAVE, however, in the course of a single event, seen you waste three civilians.
My point being I wouldn't be so quick to follow you. And no, my vote against juliets1.0 wasn't following your case, before you even bring that up.
So you are telling me that, had I never raised jul1ets' name that day, you would have voted there- is that so?
Yes, I am saying that. You give yourself too much credit.

#2987

Later.

Chris · #2988

I mean, ultimately, Made's in the lead, and I still feel strong enough about Rico for him to be in a close second.

Remind me again of how you feel about Rico, SVS?

#2989

I have no real opinion on him. I don't read Epis posts.

#2990

He could be bad. I said earlier, if they tie and only one is lynched, then they both are bad. I just feel a hell of a lot stronger about Made.

#2991

S~V~S wrote:He could be bad. I said earlier, if they tie and only one is lynched, then they both are bad. I just feel a hell of a lot stronger about Made.

But we won't ever know if they tie for sure; there's enough vote manipulation going around.

#2992

But it will be more likely with the civs having that plus 1.

Other than Amy Pond, a civ, what vote manipulation are you talking about?

#2993

S~V~S wrote:But it will be more likely with the civs having that plus 1.

Other than Amy Pond, a civ, what vote manipulation are you talking about?

There are secrets. Also, Cyberman Head.

#2994

The role list has been updated.

#2995

I have followed the decoding, I don't recall vote manips in the projected secrets. Did I miss those? And I guess the cyberman head is possible. Do we know how he finds his head?

#2996

S~V~S wrote:I have followed the decoding, I don't recall vote manips in the projected secrets. Did I miss those? And I guess the cyberman head is possible. Do we know how he finds his head?

I'm not talking about baddie secrets.

We don't, but I assume it's similar to my Techno Allah in Avant-Garde where it is randomly assigned and he has to guess.

#2997

S~V~S wrote:I don't read Epis posts.

Damn, I'm like Sinclair Lewis. An unread genius.

#2998

You are worried about civvie manips?

But again, this is why having a tight lynch is a good idea. If one person is 2 votes ahead and is still lynched, then we could project that the Head is one of the people that voted for them.

#2999

S~V~S wrote:You are worried about civvie manips?

But again, this is why having a tight lynch is a good idea. If one person is 2 votes ahead and is still lynched, then we could project that the Head is one of the people that voted for them.

Well, we know Amy has +2, we just don't know what else could be happening, so it's impossible to determine a tie for sure, so that was my point.

#3000

I am really nervous about the tie as well because it can be so easily manipulated. I still think one voter should be ahead of the other by a few votes.

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