GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[112]

@TonyStarkPrime - you should get yourself checked out by a physician. It sounds silly but is the smartest thing to do. All the best.

[Seanzie]

I want to policy neeko

Care to explain why?

HK shouldn't have to explain this

You've refused to explain any of your takes thus fair.

You woofin' HK?

You might need to read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_c ... ttle_black

No one has asked me to explain anything. I've asked HK to explain two different takes and he didn't for either one.

Do you have any questions for me? Because if not, I'm not sure what the point of your post is here.

You're vote onto Neeko seems to be derived from nothing you don't want to commit to saying that was the reason despite prodding.
You were the 3rd voter and gave no reason along with Alexa and Nutella, so Neeko is left with assuming you're reason is that you have no reason other than the joke RVS Neeko put on you poking fun of Gulliotine overreading a single Falcon post.
And voting someone RVSing you without giving a reason is not a good look when both Urist and KZA are seriously pushing to lynch.

I called you a flame fanner, that is my reason for voting you.

Between the post where you seemed to push an associative read between me and Falcon while Guillo was scumreading Falcon even though you don't seem to be pushing Falcon, and the post where you push Guillo to believe Alexa v Nutella is s/s, it feels like you have a vested interest in pushing people into scumreading other people while not ever being willing to push on your self. Thus the "flame fanner" moniker I've given you. You won't start a fire of your own, but if you see one, you seem pretty quick to fan it to make it bigger.

[Alison]

Did anyone else see the part where linearpoint literally outed herself as mafia

No. Enlighten me.

You are townie for not outing it immediately though.

[nutella]

Notice from everyone!
Kindly listen... so

I'm gonna play bad when being scum read
It would hinder me to give the town some info
So let's just play some game and stop the music
If you try to buddy me, I graciously accept
I am spreading love, but also wanting to become a hero
Let's have fun y'all and don't lynch me I have soo many things I can offer

Town

[Alison]

Alexa and Nutella sheeping pretty fast is quite indicative Neeko was right it was SvS.

I rescind my townread on you.

[Creature]

Soup kill is annoying because there is always a number of airheads that will claim their role for no reason and then like five or more town die in one night

[Paopan]

I'm rolling the dice. It's NAA

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

[Alison]

Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

I think you are.

[Alison]

Seanzie is also probably bad. Neeko joking that Falcon and Seanzie being scum really struck a nerve with Seanzie apparently so it could very well turn out to be true.

Why bring this up ages after Seanzie left the thread?

[Creature]

Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

I think you are.

I'm not mafia and this makes your push on me even more annoying

[Alison]

Why the hell would you chose me for your wolf team.

Somebody shoot this please.

Don't think it's sus because I think wolves chose roles, not players.

[Alison]

OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.
OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.

Don't think Nanook would offer N0 rolecop to mafia with a soupkill. Can't think of a more unfun way to get eliminated.

[LinearPoint]

Care to explain why?

HK shouldn't have to explain this

You've refused to explain any of your takes thus fair.

You woofin' HK?

You might need to read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_c ... ttle_black

No one has asked me to explain anything. I've asked HK to explain two different takes and he didn't for either one.

Do you have any questions for me? Because if not, I'm not sure what the point of your post is here.

You're vote onto Neeko seems to be derived from nothing you don't want to commit to saying that was the reason despite prodding.
You were the 3rd voter and gave no reason along with Alexa and Nutella, so Neeko is left with assuming you're reason is that you have no reason other than the joke RVS Neeko put on you poking fun of Gulliotine overreading a single Falcon post.
And voting someone RVSing you without giving a reason is not a good look when both Urist and KZA are seriously pushing to lynch.

I called you a flame fanner, that is my reason for voting you.

Between the post where you seemed to push an associative read between me and Falcon while Guillo was scumreading Falcon even though you don't seem to be pushing Falcon, and the post where you push Guillo to believe Alexa v Nutella is s/s, it feels like you have a vested interest in pushing people into scumreading other people while not ever being willing to push on your self. Thus the "flame fanner" moniker I've given you. You won't start a fire of your own, but if you see one, you seem pretty quick to fan it to make it bigger.

No offense, but you'd be kind of dim to assume that was a serious post and Alexa and Nutella have given good reason to believe it's SvS. Neeko made a whole post outlining why that is a very good possibility.
You just seemingly piggybacked off Urist's vague "Neeko scumslipped" instead of giving a reason, this feels like trying to justify a bandwagon vote.

[Creature]

If I was mafia captain I would choose players tbh even if it is not mechanically optimal. I would much rather have an enjoyable team to play with.

[Alison]

lol if the alexa/nutella w/w theory is right

The real flame fanner.

[nutella]

I want the guilty on nutella to be legit

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Yeah
[VOTE: creature] aubergine

[Creature]

I know I'd never be picked by the mafia captain if they chose players over roles

[Alison]

Notice from everyone!
Kindly listen... so

I'm gonna play bad when being scum read
It would hinder me to give the town some info
So let's just play some game and stop the music
If you try to buddy me, I graciously accept
I am spreading love, but also wanting to become a hero
Let's have fun y'all and don't lynch me I have soo many things I can offer

I feel like this is some boneheaded breadcrumb.

[LinearPoint]

Seanzie is also probably bad. Neeko joking that Falcon and Seanzie being scum really struck a nerve with Seanzie apparently so it could very well turn out to be true.

Why bring this up ages after Seanzie left the thread?

Seanzie never left the thread?

[Alison]

I want to policy neeko

Care to explain why?

HK shouldn't have to explain this

You've refused to explain any of your takes thus fair.

You woofin' HK?

r/wooooosh

neeko is speaking in 3rd person and it's irritating. So I said "meh policy" and you said why and I said "HK shouldn't have to explain this" where I was also speaking in 3rd person.

And the only other take I've refused to explain so far is you.
I threw you into my original townies list to see what you'd say when you read it. You immediately pressed me on why I did that. I read that as town because you'd want to know why I'm doing that so that you can understand if I'm trying to pocket you or not. Wolf seanzie may be more likely to just roll with it.

So when you had that response I shifted from a faked town read to a real town read.

Very townie

[112]

early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Sabie had an odd opener but i haven't read any additional posts from her

[Alison]

Seanzie is also probably bad. Neeko joking that Falcon and Seanzie being scum really struck a nerve with Seanzie apparently so it could very well turn out to be true.

Why bring this up ages after Seanzie left the thread?

Seanzie never left the thread?

He hadn't posted for a while at that point. I guess I'm asking what made you suddenly think of it.

[112]

Oh this game we get special events that should be fun! I always enjoy a game with unique elements.

hmmmmmmmmmm

[Creature]

early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Thought I was the only one seeing it

[Creature]

Is it bad to speculate who mafia captain would pick or wouldn't ever pick to be mafia here?

[nutella]

Also currently in Kentucky

Oof get better

[NotAnAxehole]

Drafting is an art.

There's only one player in this game who understands the game well enough to know that I'm the optimal pick.

[nutella]

lol if nutella is salty alexa caught her n0

if it was just a role peek it makes sense she thinks it isn't a town role except that it is because nook made roles and alignments independent

she went about this quite badly though lol

Shouldn't you be reading Alexa as lock town from your perspective? She clearly knows your role, because she knows it is a scummy looking role and you have just verified that. But if she was mafia, Nanook would not give her the ability to discern your role N1 because that's just a free soupkill and super uninteractive. Therefore she is a genuine town investigative, no?

I'm not locking anything but I do think she's probably town now

[TonyStarkPrime]

Is it bad to speculate who mafia captain would pick or wouldn't ever pick to be mafia here?

I’d go for it

Anyone who said they might slank anywhere is probably clear

[c4e5g3d5]

There's exactly 0-1 mafia captains and this list has a lot of people unfamiliar with each other

All your "this is who the captain would pick" reads suck

[112]

Drafting is an art.

There's only one player in this game who understands the game well enough to know that I'm the optimal pick.

[LinearPoint]

Seanzie is also probably bad. Neeko joking that Falcon and Seanzie being scum really struck a nerve with Seanzie apparently so it could very well turn out to be true.

Why bring this up ages after Seanzie left the thread?

Seanzie never left the thread?

He hadn't posted for a while at that point. I guess I'm asking what made you suddenly think of it.

Alexa and Nutella's votes were pretty sus with lacking a reason and being shortly after Neeko saying their interaction was SvS.
Neeko then went to the other votes and both Urist and KZA seemed to have a reason even if they didn't say and Sean seemingly has no reason other than because of a joke post saying Falcon and Sean were distancing.
Also like, Seanzie's vote and that post were 10 minutes apart, not that long honestly. Still slightly bigger fish to fry in the form of Alexa and Nutella. Seanzie Neeko mainly wanted to get a reason out of them as the vote didn't seem justified and was more like bandwagoning.

[nutella]

Wait I think the existence of a mafia captain should almost clear me from ever being picked as mafia this game

Derp vehemently denied.

[Seanzie]

HK shouldn't have to explain this

You've refused to explain any of your takes thus fair.

You woofin' HK?

You might need to read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_c ... ttle_black

No one has asked me to explain anything. I've asked HK to explain two different takes and he didn't for either one.

Do you have any questions for me? Because if not, I'm not sure what the point of your post is here.

You're vote onto Neeko seems to be derived from nothing you don't want to commit to saying that was the reason despite prodding.
You were the 3rd voter and gave no reason along with Alexa and Nutella, so Neeko is left with assuming you're reason is that you have no reason other than the joke RVS Neeko put on you poking fun of Gulliotine overreading a single Falcon post.
And voting someone RVSing you without giving a reason is not a good look when both Urist and KZA are seriously pushing to lynch.

I called you a flame fanner, that is my reason for voting you.

Between the post where you seemed to push an associative read between me and Falcon while Guillo was scumreading Falcon even though you don't seem to be pushing Falcon, and the post where you push Guillo to believe Alexa v Nutella is s/s, it feels like you have a vested interest in pushing people into scumreading other people while not ever being willing to push on your self. Thus the "flame fanner" moniker I've given you. You won't start a fire of your own, but if you see one, you seem pretty quick to fan it to make it bigger.

No offense, but you'd be kind of dim to assume that was a serious post and Alexa and Nutella have given good reason to believe it's SvS. Neeko made a whole post outlining why that is a very good possibility.
You just seemingly piggybacked off Urist's vague "Neeko scumslipped" instead of giving a reason, this feels like trying to justify a bandwagon vote.

I think you're being overly generous if you assume early posts aren't serious.

LinearPoint's post about why it might be s/s was full of bad logic IMO. I thought about writing a post pointing out how none of the alignment conclusions actually follow from the things stated before them, but decided against it (but don't remember why I decided against it).

I did not piggyback off Urist's post. I did ask him if he saw the same thing as me, but he didn't answer me. You literally said the post that I voted LinearPoint over was bad, so are you piggybacking?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wait so what’s going on

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also if I were captain I would pick Creature

[TonyStarkPrime]

Except I wouldn’t because picking roles is obviously better

[Creature]

Is it bad to speculate who mafia captain would pick or wouldn't ever pick to be mafia here?

I’d go for it

Anyone who said they might slank anywhere is probably clear

I could also tell some names that probably wouldn't be popular picks for mafia here, but I can't be sure so I'd more conservatively townlean them than clear them.

[c4e5g3d5]

Exactly 0-1 recruiting captains same diff

[LinearPoint]

Is it bad to speculate who mafia captain would pick or wouldn't ever pick to be mafia here?

Probably not. Just don't overtunnel on it and it's fine to speculate.
We need some Mafia roles to flip though to really be able to tell if they hand picked roles or not to be honest.

[112]

Wait so what’s going on

oh no he has a concussion

[NotAnAxehole]

Wait so what’s going on

We're killing Linear Point, and 2 hours before end of day, I'm claiming a red check - which nobody will believe, Linear Point dies at EoD, and we kill my red check tomorrow.

[falcon45ca]

Did you guys know that 'KZA' backwards is 'KZA'

Is this a symptom of driving on the wrong side of the road?

[alexa]

i do wish this hadn't happened and alexa had kept it to herself because now wolves might be able to narrow down the kind of role i have but ah well

i think it's likely enough she just didnt realize roles and alignment were likely independent of each other

Alexa don't make those kinds of mistakes.

But maybe I should stop holding her to higher standards than everyone else now that I think about it.

WHAT?????

LMAO IVE MESSED UP AS PR LIKE EVERY GAME

if this is a serious read please give proof you mean it/have witnessed it

@Guillotine

[112]

Wait so what’s going on

We're killing Linear Point, and 2 hours before end of day, I'm claiming a red check - which nobody will believe, Linear Point dies at EoD, and we kill my red check tomorrow.

i am ride or die with you

do not let me down

[Creature]

I have a bad feeling the mafia captain just picked the boring role selection though.

[Paopan]

Drafting is an art.

There's only one player in this game who understands the game well enough to know that I'm the optimal pick.

You are a fellow man full of culture... That's why I need to get rid of you
On the other hand. I'm thinking we should create a cult
Now, tell us your red check and let's CFD on that one on EoD.

[LinearPoint]

I think you're being overly generous if you assume early posts aren't serious.

LinearPoint's post about why it might be s/s was full of bad logic IMO. I thought about writing a post pointing out how none of the alignment conclusions actually follow from the things stated before them, but decided against it (but don't remember why I decided against it).

I did not piggyback off Urist's post. I did ask him if he saw the same thing as me, but he didn't answer me. You literally said the post that I voted LinearPoint over was bad, so are you piggybacking?

To be honest, Neeko doesn't follow what you are saying right now as it doesn't makes sense to her.

Nothing wrong with the logic imo. Mafia would have chosen N0 rolecop if given the option.
Alexa is claiming N0 rolecop.
Rolecop is very useful to Mafia. So Alexa is probably just Mafia.
Mafia if given N0 rolecop wouldn't just post their result ergo Alexa's check is probably fake.
Ergo Nutella is probably also Mafia. They both also seemed to drop the whole thunderdome extremely quickly and town read each other.

Logic for it being SvS seems pretty damn solid.

[nutella]

Town:
Alexa
Alison
Guillo
Seanzie
112
Hollowkatt
C4
Urist
Paopan

Meh/mrrr:
Linearpoint
Sloonei

Mafia:
Creature


All others no opinion

[Creature]

Anyway, bit obvious the better mafia-aligned players got the better roles

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine