GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
Guillo feels tonally off to me and his vote on falcon was pingy
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You are the Apollo to my Dionysus.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:52 pmA rigid adherence to cause-and-effect is a good way to summarize my town play.112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pmhmm will considernutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pmNah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmhonestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing townc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
to me: i read the post first of all paying attention to its form more-so than the contents, and it really seemed like alison was trying /hard/ to follow a process and more than that appear to be following a process. maybe i am being anti-intellectual here and there is towny merit in casing people like that, but i honestly get the feeling she's trying too hard to slam dunk creature through a rigid adherence to cause-and-effect writing.
idk if that makes sense but ye
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
But you weren't pushing on it, and this is my problem with what you said. You weren't going "I believe Alexa. Let's vote nutella out. /vote nutella". That would be pushing something, trying to get the ball rolling as town. Instead you said, "lol if nutella is salty that alexa caught her n0". This is not pushing something. This is insinuating, suggesting, provoking. It is an attempt to set nutella and alexa at each other's throats, and to more generally lend credence to the nutella wagon, without directly involving yourself or getting your hands dirty. That is why it is scummy.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pmThe guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pmNah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmhonestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing townc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Yeah, ur probably townc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm The fact that Creature can only bring himself to talk about one thing so far is wolfy.
The fact that he's clearly beenfollowing along live for a reasonable amount of time given how quickly he voted nut makes it wolfier.
The fact that it's a piece of mechanical information also makes it wolfier.
The fact that it's an obviously fake redcheck also makes it wolfier.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
This isn't helping youCreature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pmThe guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pmNah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmhonestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing townc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
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What? How’s this work? Did wolves get to choose their team? Or just a few playersnutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pmnobody would choose me as a wolf lmaoMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm For real though, alexa and nutella are doing nothing to dissuade my pre-game assumption that all or most of alexa/nutella/mac/alison are chosen wolves.
Let's get chopping.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
Wow we really are voting out LP
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The T/T case was under the assumption that the mafia coach chose players, not roles. If they chose players, then roles are entirely NAI. Why can't Alexa be mafia in this situation? Why can't Alexa be town and Nutella is actually scum with a scummy role?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 pmThe T/T case was from the assumption that roles are not tied to alignments. If Mafia didn't pick N0 rolecop then Alexa can't be Mafia meaning Nutella is probably Town from their reaction.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:41 pmIn the case that Mafia chose players, I don't see how you are concluding Alexa and Nutella are both town. Mafia chosing players doesn't seem to actually have any connection with the conclusion you're drawing here. Are you saying that Alexa and Nutella would not be chosen? Considering that Alexa was literally a wolf in a wolf-win champs finale, I think Alexa is a very natural candidate for wolves to choose, and while I think Nutella has a stronger town game than wolf game, they aren't a bad wolf, so they also could be wolf here. This t/t case makes no sense IMO.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:06 pm OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.
This case also doesn't really make sense IMO. First off, there is exactly one soup kill and the wolves need to sacrifice a wolf in order to use it, so it will likely only be used late game. There may be many very strong roles, so a single N0 rolecop that can't be used until late game. Vig shots, strong investigatives, strong protectives and random other roles I think all make more sense than a N0 rolecop. Perhaps if there are only 6 other strong roles out there, then sure, but from what I've seen of Alexa's role, I don't see it as so powerful that Mafia would have definitely taken it. So, that part doesn't really work out...OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.
Now, I don't see how Nutella saying roles are not tied to alignment makes it likely that it was option B. If town!Nutella got a scummy-looking role, then they would know that scummy-looking roles can be given to town, no? So this is at best a confbias read you're pushing on Nutella and at worst a chance for you to flame fans onto a spat.
The W/W case Neeko still thinks is valid, but will give you that maybe she's wrong about Nutella being more likely to be Mafia with that comment.
Depending on the full strength of Alexa's role, then yes, it might be a role mafia would chose, but I kinda doubt anything with a N0 check is going to have daily checks or anything like that as it just seems super OP in a way that doesn't really make sense (rolecop is a common role, but I've never seen one with a N0 check), so the w/w case is questionable at best. And yes, I don't really see how you're assigning AI to Nutella from this case.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
I tend to ask before reading as both alignments.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:51 pmIt's true, I don't need to put stock in the derptells. But I think you're the kind of player who would be a lot more likely to try to derpclear yourself as scum than as town.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:49 pmFluff posts are NAIAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmAre the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
Whatever the derp thing you mean is NAI because you don't need to put stock on them
The flame fanning or whatever could just be town trying to push something
Flame fanning - okay. What were you trying to push, and what did you gain from those pushes? Can you elaborate on your Seanzie read?
Also, I don't need to come up with a report for every push I try to make. I just keep mental notes of how players reacted to them that may be used later in the game when I have a list of names I want to sort.
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i didn't agree with his vote on falcon at all and it came when falcon was one of my first townleans but i don't think accuracy is a towntell for guillo? the way he came in guns ablazing to me and his approach to my stuff on nutella felt like that i expect of town guillo but uh... i'm aware i may not be able to read him
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Why not?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmThis isn't helping youCreature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pmThe guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pmNah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmhonestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing townc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
I mean we're only a few hours into the day? This doesn't feel like a real contribution.
What is your read on LP? Who do you think we should be voting?
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apparently there is a wolf captain and they either have the option to choose 6 people OR to choose all the mafia rolesilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmWhat? How’s this work? Did wolves get to choose their team? Or just a few playersnutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pmnobody would choose me as a wolf lmaoMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm For real though, alexa and nutella are doing nothing to dissuade my pre-game assumption that all or most of alexa/nutella/mac/alison are chosen wolves.
Let's get chopping.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
Can people stop posting fake derps for ten seconds please
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
I have not read an LP post and am making a facetious comment in response to what NAA said earlier
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this feels so fake and wolfy lmaoGuillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pmAlexa! You made me claim! Tell me why I shouldn't shoot you right now?
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OK, admittedly. Neeko did not think of the situation where Mafia chose Alexa and Alexa randed into N0 Rolecop.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmThe T/T case was under the assumption that the mafia coach chose players, not roles. If they chose players, then roles are entirely NAI. Why can't Alexa be mafia in this situation? Why can't Alexa be town and Nutella is actually scum with a scummy role?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 pmThe T/T case was from the assumption that roles are not tied to alignments. If Mafia didn't pick N0 rolecop then Alexa can't be Mafia meaning Nutella is probably Town from their reaction.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:41 pmIn the case that Mafia chose players, I don't see how you are concluding Alexa and Nutella are both town. Mafia chosing players doesn't seem to actually have any connection with the conclusion you're drawing here. Are you saying that Alexa and Nutella would not be chosen? Considering that Alexa was literally a wolf in a wolf-win champs finale, I think Alexa is a very natural candidate for wolves to choose, and while I think Nutella has a stronger town game than wolf game, they aren't a bad wolf, so they also could be wolf here. This t/t case makes no sense IMO.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:06 pm OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.
This case also doesn't really make sense IMO. First off, there is exactly one soup kill and the wolves need to sacrifice a wolf in order to use it, so it will likely only be used late game. There may be many very strong roles, so a single N0 rolecop that can't be used until late game. Vig shots, strong investigatives, strong protectives and random other roles I think all make more sense than a N0 rolecop. Perhaps if there are only 6 other strong roles out there, then sure, but from what I've seen of Alexa's role, I don't see it as so powerful that Mafia would have definitely taken it. So, that part doesn't really work out...OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.
Now, I don't see how Nutella saying roles are not tied to alignment makes it likely that it was option B. If town!Nutella got a scummy-looking role, then they would know that scummy-looking roles can be given to town, no? So this is at best a confbias read you're pushing on Nutella and at worst a chance for you to flame fans onto a spat.
The W/W case Neeko still thinks is valid, but will give you that maybe she's wrong about Nutella being more likely to be Mafia with that comment.
Depending on the full strength of Alexa's role, then yes, it might be a role mafia would chose, but I kinda doubt anything with a N0 check is going to have daily checks or anything like that as it just seems super OP in a way that doesn't really make sense (rolecop is a common role, but I've never seen one with a N0 check), so the w/w case is questionable at best. And yes, I don't really see how you're assigning AI to Nutella from this case.
But not sure why Mafia wouldn't just take N0 cop with soup?
So Alexa is just always Mafia then and can't be Town.


Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
I'm pretty happy provoking if it will lend me a reaction I can look into.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:53 pmBut you weren't pushing on it, and this is my problem with what you said. You weren't going "I believe Alexa. Let's vote nutella out. /vote nutella". That would be pushing something, trying to get the ball rolling as town. Instead you said, "lol if nutella is salty that alexa caught her n0". This is not pushing something. This is insinuating, suggesting, provoking. It is an attempt to set nutella and alexa at each other's throats, and to more generally lend credence to the nutella wagon, without directly involving yourself or getting your hands dirty. That is why it is scummy.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pmThe guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pmNah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmhonestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing townc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
Also isn't my vote on nutella enough of a push?
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idc about the accuracy it just feels like bs to mealexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pmi didn't agree with his vote on falcon at all and it came when falcon was one of my first townleans but i don't think accuracy is a towntell for guillo? the way he came in guns ablazing to me and his approach to my stuff on nutella felt like that i expect of town guillo but uh... i'm aware i may not be able to read him
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Please transcribe these mental notes for us.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmI tend to ask before reading as both alignments.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:51 pmIt's true, I don't need to put stock in the derptells. But I think you're the kind of player who would be a lot more likely to try to derpclear yourself as scum than as town.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:49 pmFluff posts are NAIAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmAre the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
Whatever the derp thing you mean is NAI because you don't need to put stock on them
The flame fanning or whatever could just be town trying to push something
Flame fanning - okay. What were you trying to push, and what did you gain from those pushes? Can you elaborate on your Seanzie read?
Also, I don't need to come up with a report for every push I try to make. I just keep mental notes of how players reacted to them that may be used later in the game when I have a list of names I want to sort.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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There's a reason why they're mental notesAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:58 pmPlease transcribe these mental notes for us.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmI tend to ask before reading as both alignments.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:51 pmIt's true, I don't need to put stock in the derptells. But I think you're the kind of player who would be a lot more likely to try to derpclear yourself as scum than as town.Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:49 pmFluff posts are NAIAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmAre the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
Whatever the derp thing you mean is NAI because you don't need to put stock on them
The flame fanning or whatever could just be town trying to push something
Flame fanning - okay. What were you trying to push, and what did you gain from those pushes? Can you elaborate on your Seanzie read?
Also, I don't need to come up with a report for every push I try to make. I just keep mental notes of how players reacted to them that may be used later in the game when I have a list of names I want to sort.
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Is the final line here disconnected from reality or is my brain brokenLinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pmOK, admittedly. Neeko did not think of the situation where Mafia chose Alexa and Alexa randed into N0 Rolecop.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmThe T/T case was under the assumption that the mafia coach chose players, not roles. If they chose players, then roles are entirely NAI. Why can't Alexa be mafia in this situation? Why can't Alexa be town and Nutella is actually scum with a scummy role?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 pmThe T/T case was from the assumption that roles are not tied to alignments. If Mafia didn't pick N0 rolecop then Alexa can't be Mafia meaning Nutella is probably Town from their reaction.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:41 pmIn the case that Mafia chose players, I don't see how you are concluding Alexa and Nutella are both town. Mafia chosing players doesn't seem to actually have any connection with the conclusion you're drawing here. Are you saying that Alexa and Nutella would not be chosen? Considering that Alexa was literally a wolf in a wolf-win champs finale, I think Alexa is a very natural candidate for wolves to choose, and while I think Nutella has a stronger town game than wolf game, they aren't a bad wolf, so they also could be wolf here. This t/t case makes no sense IMO.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:06 pm OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.
This case also doesn't really make sense IMO. First off, there is exactly one soup kill and the wolves need to sacrifice a wolf in order to use it, so it will likely only be used late game. There may be many very strong roles, so a single N0 rolecop that can't be used until late game. Vig shots, strong investigatives, strong protectives and random other roles I think all make more sense than a N0 rolecop. Perhaps if there are only 6 other strong roles out there, then sure, but from what I've seen of Alexa's role, I don't see it as so powerful that Mafia would have definitely taken it. So, that part doesn't really work out...OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.
Now, I don't see how Nutella saying roles are not tied to alignment makes it likely that it was option B. If town!Nutella got a scummy-looking role, then they would know that scummy-looking roles can be given to town, no? So this is at best a confbias read you're pushing on Nutella and at worst a chance for you to flame fans onto a spat.
The W/W case Neeko still thinks is valid, but will give you that maybe she's wrong about Nutella being more likely to be Mafia with that comment.
Depending on the full strength of Alexa's role, then yes, it might be a role mafia would chose, but I kinda doubt anything with a N0 check is going to have daily checks or anything like that as it just seems super OP in a way that doesn't really make sense (rolecop is a common role, but I've never seen one with a N0 check), so the w/w case is questionable at best. And yes, I don't really see how you're assigning AI to Nutella from this case.
But not sure why Mafia wouldn't just take N0 cop with soup?
So Alexa is just always Mafia then and can't be Town.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
i feel like you don't really believe in the aura of this post and are going after tony just because you can?
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
It's a bad post and not even defending the point I was emphasizing112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pmWhy not?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmThis isn't helping youCreature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pmThe guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pmNah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pmhonestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing townc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pmThis is extremely NAI for CreatureAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
I mean I didn’t read the quoted post but like
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I don't know enough about LP tbh
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
yall read the op smhalexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pmapparently there is a wolf captain and they either have the option to choose 6 people OR to choose all the mafia rolesilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmWhat? How’s this work? Did wolves get to choose their team? Or just a few playersnutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pmnobody would choose me as a wolf lmaoMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm For real though, alexa and nutella are doing nothing to dissuade my pre-game assumption that all or most of alexa/nutella/mac/alison are chosen wolves.
Let's get chopping.
also did not realize this
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
tbh i do not think waza is faking this, based on what i know of him, like it's not something he can easily fake, but maybe i'm biased because i'm a villager and i was confused too by people's initial comments and just didn't read the OP remotely
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
Apparently Neeko is insane or everyone is a wolf.
Neeko's going to assume the latter until proven otherwise.
Neeko's going to assume the latter until proven otherwise.


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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
Creatures confusion also seems towny
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Well you think the guilty thing was a slam dunk and I just showed my townie mindset behind hoping it to be true even if just for lols and gigglesnutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:59 pmIt's a bad post and not even defending the point I was emphasizing112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pmWhy not?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmThis isn't helping youCreature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pmThe guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.
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Yeah, but I did it for meSeanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:43 pmI mean you did just do exactly what I asked you to do?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:32 pmI really don't feel I've done all that much for you, either negatively or positively
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
I have quoted posts that fanned the flames, and accused you of using those posts to try to set the town at each other's throats.
Your response is that you were using them as reaction tests to learn more about the alignments of other players, and that the results of these reaction tests are kept in your head as mental notes.
I am asking you to tell us what you have learned from these reaction tests so I can verify that you are not lying or making things up.
You have refused to do so, for no apparent reason, and attempted to redirect the conversation.
Either provide a clear, succinct, and verifiable reason why you cannot tell us what you have learned from the reaction tests you supposedly engaged in, or I will be forced to assume you are lying.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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I don’t read the op because I’m not a wolf lol, if I know the setup well that’s a wolf tell for me, as town I simply don’t care about mechanics, the principle of every setup is the same I just kill wolfy people and find townies until I’m nightkilled or I solve the game
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I’m giving you guys a freebie on one of my tells Since people struggle so hard to meta me lol even though I don’t think my meta should be that confusing but apparently it is
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
It reads to me like he pretty directly addresses the part of your post that concerns him.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:59 pmIt's a bad post and not even defending the point I was emphasizing112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pmWhy not?nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pmThis isn't helping youCreature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pmThe guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.

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Jesus Christ it's because I don't have enough notes to systematically order my thoughts down and even if I did I'm too lazy to write a whole Great Wall of ChinaAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:01 pmI have quoted posts that fanned the flames, and accused you of using those posts to try to set the town at each other's throats.
Your response is that you were using them as reaction tests to learn more about the alignments of other players, and that the results of these reaction tests are kept in your head as mental notes.
I am asking you to tell us what you have learned from these reaction tests so I can verify that you are not lying or making things up.
You have refused to do so, for no apparent reason, and attempted to redirect the conversation.
Either provide a clear, succinct, and verifiable reason why you cannot tell us what you have learned from the reaction tests you supposedly engaged in, or I will be forced to assume you are lying.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
I mean, I am a little wary of pushing a dude who might have a concussion right now, so I did kinda treat him with kids gloves on the first part of the post.112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:59 pmi feel like you don't really believe in the aura of this post and are going after tony just because you can?
I am also going after Tony just because I can though. His post feels fake, and going after him about it will make him do AI things.
If you really scum read me, you're going to have to do better than stating reads without reasons and subtle shade on my posts. Come at me. I'm much better at telling alignments when people hardpush me, so I encourage you to bring it if you believe it.
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The one about the captain looked fake because he definitely didn't quote the first mention of a captain
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ftr I didn't realize there was a soup kill because I didn't read the Various mechanics quote. I probably should have read it first instead of asking "wait is there a soup kill", but I tend to ask things before reading.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
So I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about my entrance to this game and
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
not screaming like the people in his car
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
gut/godread on his first posts says TSP town but this is not solid