GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Justplayingitcool]

I've not given Creature much thought myself, but I'm very warily TRing Alison, and nutella also seemed convinced there was a meta gap at play.

I felt that trying to hear his thoughts about marmot was like extracting blood from a stone

[Urist]

Urist: "hollowkatt is bussing linearpoint"
Hollowkatt": *unvotes* "no i'm not"

LOL

[Master Radishes]

ok i justt got to the brexit jokes and i think belzys rsponse to MR there is kind of towny

But did you laugh

[dyachei]

Hello all! It is I, your Lord Mayor Paopan~
It seems a little introduction is needed for some people who aren't familiar with me

FAQs:
Who are you? Are you a smurf?
For starters, my name is Paopan, I am not a smurf, hydra, or whatever there is.
Also, to someone who says I'm Gavial's smurf. I'm not, and he's not from my home site also.
I first encountered him on this site

Why did you join TS?
As I wanted to have a fresh perspective around things, I decided to try another website. My first option was obvious, MU.
They have the best GUI and largest player base in my opinion
But for some reason, I can't find the motivation to play there. Maybe because there are way too many people on that site.
So I lurk there at best

About my experience?
I was introduced by Lag and Frinckles to play FM and have been playing for around 6 months or so (not fully committed)
It would be null at best to read me from my home site as I tend to play different meta on this site compared to what I'm used to (Guillo can attest)
So far, I have completed two games on TS; read it if you want
So far... 1 mafia and 1 town game (FoL and Akemi Homura) - 100% WR if you're into that

Would it still be viable to meta read me?
Even I can't answer that, as I am in the process of learning and my playstyle may change as I tend to play longer.

Do I know Alexa?
Well, yes. We encountered each other once on this site. Other than that, I always lurk on MU and I saw her name on the Championships

Why do I scum read Alexa in the first 12h?
I actually don't. But I wanted to be heard since my first few posts are being ignored.
And what better way to do that? Proceed to open wolf every D1 train (and Guillo, but I'm reluctant to push cos of his day vigi claim)

How committed are you?
Casual. 50% of my IRL work uses Excel.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to use a spreadsheet if I'm really that committed

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For day 1, we have two options: [max. 5 slots]

Option 1: Policy Lynch (not necessarily in order)
dyachei -> Sig -> Marmot -> BoKnows -> KZA

Option 2: Selective Lynch (from my PoV - In order)
ElderWiggin <-> Sabie -> Creature -> Sloonei -> MR (Gambit Demon)

BRB in 12h or so~

Something feels off. Maybe because of the selective reading that would only make sense from a wolves perspective
[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

I see you are town.

can you explain?

[Alison]

Dyas probs town

They haven't done anything AI.

The way Creature has treated them reflects poorly on Creature though.

[dyachei]

ok i justt got to the brexit jokes and i think belzys rsponse to MR there is kind of towny

But did you laugh

i liked dizzy's brexit joke better

[Master Radishes]

ok i justt got to the brexit jokes and i think belzys rsponse to MR there is kind of towny

But did you laugh

i liked dizzy's brexit joke better

Dya lock scum.

[Alison]

I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

Me too.

[c4e5g3d5]

Oh my god.

[LinearPoint]

Urist: "hollowkatt is bussing linearpoint"
Hollowkatt": *unvotes* "no i'm not"

LOL

OK, this is funny, but Neeko'd have to be Mafia to be bussed by Mafia.

[c4e5g3d5]

@alexa no I haven't

[NotAnAxehole]

I want to kill Hallokat more than I did last night. Also, I'm still onboard with a MacDougall vigilante shot, so if he dies, scum can assume that I am the vigilante, despite my not-vigilante claim from yesterday.

[Master Radishes]

I want to kill Hallokat more than I did last night. Also, I'm still onboard with a MacDougall vigilante shot, so if he dies, scum can assume that I am the vigilante, despite my not-vigilante claim from yesterday.

I wish people would be brave enough to do a Mac wagon.

[Guillotine]

Town:
Alexa
Ilario
Belzy
Guillo
Sean
Nutella
Alison (think she cares about the game in a town way)
Paopan (don't know them, but surface level this just seems like town)

Jpic and Radish also seem ok.

If you are night killed and flip town, i will sheep your reads.

[dyachei]

ok im caught up. have slight v feels on nut and alison

feel pretty sure belzy is V

wish MR were funnier this game

wanna know what the deal is with paopan's policy stuff since I dont even know them

wanna know what the read on LP is for

[Master Radishes]

Although I guess we'd kill Sprityo too and maybe that's not fair.

[c4e5g3d5]

Jpic is town, that took five seconds.

[NotAnAxehole]

Urist: "hollowkatt is bussing linearpoint"
Hollowkatt": *unvotes* "no i'm not"

LOL

OK, this is funny, but Neeko'd have to be Mafia to be bussed by Mafia.

This assumes that the bussing aspect is the scummy part of the interaction. I don't think it's relevant.

[NotAnAxehole]

I want to kill Hallokat more than I did last night. Also, I'm still onboard with a MacDougall vigilante shot, so if he dies, scum can assume that I am the vigilante, despite my not-vigilante claim from yesterday.

I wish people would be brave enough to do a Mac wagon.

I would vote.

[Master Radishes]

wish MR were funnier this game

[Guillotine]

Hello all! It is I, your Lord Mayor Paopan~
It seems a little introduction is needed for some people who aren't familiar with me

FAQs:
Who are you? Are you a smurf?
For starters, my name is Paopan, I am not a smurf, hydra, or whatever there is.
Also, to someone who says I'm Gavial's smurf. I'm not, and he's not from my home site also.
I first encountered him on this site

Why did you join TS?
As I wanted to have a fresh perspective around things, I decided to try another website. My first option was obvious, MU.
They have the best GUI and largest player base in my opinion
But for some reason, I can't find the motivation to play there. Maybe because there are way too many people on that site.
So I lurk there at best

About my experience?
I was introduced by Lag and Frinckles to play FM and have been playing for around 6 months or so (not fully committed)
It would be null at best to read me from my home site as I tend to play different meta on this site compared to what I'm used to (Guillo can attest)
So far, I have completed two games on TS; read it if you want
So far... 1 mafia and 1 town game (FoL and Akemi Homura) - 100% WR if you're into that

Would it still be viable to meta read me?
Even I can't answer that, as I am in the process of learning and my playstyle may change as I tend to play longer.

Do I know Alexa?
Well, yes. We encountered each other once on this site. Other than that, I always lurk on MU and I saw her name on the Championships

Why do I scum read Alexa in the first 12h?
I actually don't. But I wanted to be heard since my first few posts are being ignored.
And what better way to do that? Proceed to open wolf every D1 train (and Guillo, but I'm reluctant to push cos of his day vigi claim)

How committed are you?
Casual. 50% of my IRL work uses Excel.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to use a spreadsheet if I'm really that committed

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For day 1, we have two options: [max. 5 slots]

Option 1: Policy Lynch (not necessarily in order)
dyachei -> Sig -> Marmot -> BoKnows -> KZA

Option 2: Selective Lynch (from my PoV - In order)
ElderWiggin <-> Sabie -> Creature -> Sloonei -> MR (Gambit Demon)

BRB in 12h or so~

Something feels off. Maybe because of the selective reading that would only make sense from a wolves perspective
[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

I've never seen a post of yours anywhere near as large as this one.


[VOTE: Pao] aubergine

Falcon just spewed Pao town.

Are you scumreading Pao based on the size of the post instead of its content?

[Alison]

CDC meta update:

112 probably town.

Bo and Falcon feel hesitant and not their usual selves and I feel like that'd fit with wolfing in a game like this. But we'll see how D1 progresses - it's not even been 24h yet. Both are easy to misread.

KZA tbd. Also not his usual sparkly green self but I'm more willing to wait on him.

I think it's townie for MR to be keeping an eye on the CDC players' meta play, and to share it unprompted.

[Alison]

Tony is scum. Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

He could be. My usual strategy with Tony is to get other people to read him for me. This is because I invariably find him scummy regardless of his alignment.

[Guillotine]

► Show Spoiler

Hello all! It is I, your Lord Mayor Paopan~
It seems a little introduction is needed for some people who aren't familiar with me

FAQs:
Who are you? Are you a smurf?
For starters, my name is Paopan, I am not a smurf, hydra, or whatever there is.
Also, to someone who says I'm Gavial's smurf. I'm not, and he's not from my home site also.
I first encountered him on this site

Why did you join TS?
As I wanted to have a fresh perspective around things, I decided to try another website. My first option was obvious, MU.
They have the best GUI and largest player base in my opinion
But for some reason, I can't find the motivation to play there. Maybe because there are way too many people on that site.
So I lurk there at best

About my experience?
I was introduced by Lag and Frinckles to play FM and have been playing for around 6 months or so (not fully committed)
It would be null at best to read me from my home site as I tend to play different meta on this site compared to what I'm used to (Guillo can attest)
So far, I have completed two games on TS; read it if you want
So far... 1 mafia and 1 town game (FoL and Akemi Homura) - 100% WR if you're into that

Would it still be viable to meta read me?
Even I can't answer that, as I am in the process of learning and my playstyle may change as I tend to play longer.

Do I know Alexa?
Well, yes. We encountered each other once on this site. Other than that, I always lurk on MU and I saw her name on the Championships

Why do I scum read Alexa in the first 12h?
I actually don't. But I wanted to be heard since my first few posts are being ignored.
And what better way to do that? Proceed to open wolf every D1 train (and Guillo, but I'm reluctant to push cos of his day vigi claim)

How committed are you?
Casual. 50% of my IRL work uses Excel.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to use a spreadsheet if I'm really that committed

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For day 1, we have two options: [max. 5 slots]

Option 1: Policy Lynch (not necessarily in order)
dyachei -> Sig -> Marmot -> BoKnows -> KZA

Option 2: Selective Lynch (from my PoV - In order)
ElderWiggin <-> Sabie -> Creature -> Sloonei -> MR (Gambit Demon)

BRB in 12h or so~

Something feels off. Maybe because of the selective reading that would only make sense from a wolves perspective
[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

I've never seen a post of yours anywhere near as large as this one.


[VOTE: Pao] aubergine

Falcon just spewed Pao town.

Are you scumreading Pao based on the size of the post instead of its content?

[Alison]

I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

She scumslipped in her first ten posts lmao
If you can't see it then just take my word for it

Quote it.

[c4e5g3d5]

Heart wants Bo to be town

[Justplayingitcool]

Jpic is town, that took five seconds.

thanks bro

[falcon45ca]

Hello all! It is I, your Lord Mayor Paopan~
It seems a little introduction is needed for some people who aren't familiar with me

FAQs:
Who are you? Are you a smurf?
For starters, my name is Paopan, I am not a smurf, hydra, or whatever there is.
Also, to someone who says I'm Gavial's smurf. I'm not, and he's not from my home site also.
I first encountered him on this site

Why did you join TS?
As I wanted to have a fresh perspective around things, I decided to try another website. My first option was obvious, MU.
They have the best GUI and largest player base in my opinion
But for some reason, I can't find the motivation to play there. Maybe because there are way too many people on that site.
So I lurk there at best

About my experience?
I was introduced by Lag and Frinckles to play FM and have been playing for around 6 months or so (not fully committed)
It would be null at best to read me from my home site as I tend to play different meta on this site compared to what I'm used to (Guillo can attest)
So far, I have completed two games on TS; read it if you want
So far... 1 mafia and 1 town game (FoL and Akemi Homura) - 100% WR if you're into that

Would it still be viable to meta read me?
Even I can't answer that, as I am in the process of learning and my playstyle may change as I tend to play longer.

Do I know Alexa?
Well, yes. We encountered each other once on this site. Other than that, I always lurk on MU and I saw her name on the Championships

Why do I scum read Alexa in the first 12h?
I actually don't. But I wanted to be heard since my first few posts are being ignored.
And what better way to do that? Proceed to open wolf every D1 train (and Guillo, but I'm reluctant to push cos of his day vigi claim)

How committed are you?
Casual. 50% of my IRL work uses Excel.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to use a spreadsheet if I'm really that committed

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For day 1, we have two options: [max. 5 slots]

Option 1: Policy Lynch (not necessarily in order)
dyachei -> Sig -> Marmot -> BoKnows -> KZA

Option 2: Selective Lynch (from my PoV - In order)
ElderWiggin <-> Sabie -> Creature -> Sloonei -> MR (Gambit Demon)

BRB in 12h or so~

Something feels off. Maybe because of the selective reading that would only make sense from a wolves perspective
[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

I've never seen a post of yours anywhere near as large as this one.


[VOTE: Pao] aubergine

Falcon just spewed Pao town.

Are you scumreading Pao based on the size of the post instead of its content?

How can I spew someone town, when I am town?



That does not make sense


The post is not typical of Pao's posting history. I find things out of place/uncharacteristic to be scummy

[Seanzie]

Tony is scum. Someone please convince me I'm wrong.

Big shrug on tony. he seems to be doing what he always does in games, regardless of alignment.

what are your thoughts

Postcount-wise he is more active this game than he usually is as town by a long-shot, but content-wise he is at about the same level as he usually is as town. Thus, in terms of content density, I think he is very very sparse.

As town, his little one-line posts tend to actually be rather nuanced reads about the game, but here, most of them are throw-aways or things that don't really advance the gamestate.

Here, many of his posts seem to want to portray the idea that TSP is not trying, or not fully engaged enough to have good takes, but that doesn't fit well with how active he has actually been.

[falcon45ca]

There's like an 80% chance that MR is scum

[TonyStarkPrime]

Sean I’m literally 4 hours from home I am not engaged

[Alison]

Hello all! It is I, your Lord Mayor Paopan~
It seems a little introduction is needed for some people who aren't familiar with me

FAQs:
Who are you? Are you a smurf?
For starters, my name is Paopan, I am not a smurf, hydra, or whatever there is.
Also, to someone who says I'm Gavial's smurf. I'm not, and he's not from my home site also.
I first encountered him on this site

Why did you join TS?
As I wanted to have a fresh perspective around things, I decided to try another website. My first option was obvious, MU.
They have the best GUI and largest player base in my opinion
But for some reason, I can't find the motivation to play there. Maybe because there are way too many people on that site.
So I lurk there at best

About my experience?
I was introduced by Lag and Frinckles to play FM and have been playing for around 6 months or so (not fully committed)
It would be null at best to read me from my home site as I tend to play different meta on this site compared to what I'm used to (Guillo can attest)
So far, I have completed two games on TS; read it if you want
So far... 1 mafia and 1 town game (FoL and Akemi Homura) - 100% WR if you're into that

Would it still be viable to meta read me?
Even I can't answer that, as I am in the process of learning and my playstyle may change as I tend to play longer.

Do I know Alexa?
Well, yes. We encountered each other once on this site. Other than that, I always lurk on MU and I saw her name on the Championships

Why do I scum read Alexa in the first 12h?
I actually don't. But I wanted to be heard since my first few posts are being ignored.
And what better way to do that? Proceed to open wolf every D1 train (and Guillo, but I'm reluctant to push cos of his day vigi claim)

How committed are you?
Casual. 50% of my IRL work uses Excel.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to use a spreadsheet if I'm really that committed

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For day 1, we have two options: [max. 5 slots]

Option 1: Policy Lynch (not necessarily in order)
dyachei -> Sig -> Marmot -> BoKnows -> KZA

Option 2: Selective Lynch (from my PoV - In order)
ElderWiggin <-> Sabie -> Creature -> Sloonei -> MR (Gambit Demon)

BRB in 12h or so~

Something feels off. Maybe because of the selective reading that would only make sense from a wolves perspective
[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

I see you are town.

can you explain?

I think it's a fairly textbook town post. Paopan addresses concerns about them wrt the Alexa thing, clearly explains their position and thought process in making that post, and moves on.

They (in a roundabout way) give their list of wolf suspects, and I note with approval that two of my top suspects are shared with them.

They create a list of people they think should be policied, but end up following their personal scumreads instead, which I think is townie. Finally, they vote sabie, and they could very easily have framed that as a policy vote in the context of their post, and probably taken little to no blame if she flips town, but Paopan chooses to take responsibility for it and lists her as a genuine scumread instead.

I like the way Paopan's gome about doing things. I wish there were more reasons, but if I recall correctly they aren't big on that as town anyway.

[NotAnAxehole]

@Urist I think I see the slip, I just don't view it as a scum slip per say. I might be wrong about the post you're looking at... But I don't think I am.

[Master Radishes]

There's like an 80% chance that MR is scum

Go on then - why?

[Seanzie]

Sean I’m literally 4 hours from home I am not engaged

You sure are present though.

[Urist]

@Urist I think I see the slip, I just don't view it as a scum slip per say. I might be wrong about the post you're looking at... But I don't think I am.

It's multiple posts which contradict each other.

[LinearPoint]

@Urist I think I see the slip, I just don't view it as a scum slip per say. I might be wrong about the post you're looking at... But I don't think I am.

It's multiple posts which contradict each other.

Neeko is not contra, and is very dictary.

[Seanzie]

I don't like the Marmot or the Paopan wagons. What is the case on Scotty?

[NotAnAxehole]

@Urist I think I see the slip, I just don't view it as a scum slip per say. I might be wrong about the post you're looking at... But I don't think I am.

It's multiple posts which contradict each other.

Eh... We're talking about role counts yes?

[falcon45ca]

There's like an 80% chance that MR is scum

Go on then - why?

There's a giddy-let's play attitude to your posting, and little to no solving outside of comments on CDCers...in which you only really talk about myself & BK, in odd-hard to quantify ways that are hedged w/ "they're ez to misread"




If you could describe what you feel is hesitant about my play, I'd appreciate it.























PS I still love you, even tho you're scum

[NotAnAxehole]

And the contradiction is that we know LP's dumbbell is faked.

[nutella]

I need to start keeping a list of people I think are wolvrd

Haha that's crazy

[NotAnAxehole]

Am I on point @Urist ?

[nutella]

Radish and jpic are both towny and also the brexit jokes were funny

[Urist]

Am I on point @Urist ?

mhm

[Master Radishes]

Radish and jpic are both towny and also the brexit jokes were funny

Pocket accepted.

[Master Radishes]

Falcon's grievances with me are...understandable, actually.

[Alison]

I think Falcon's treatment of MR is townie

[NotAnAxehole]

Am I on point @Urist ?

mhm

So the question is... Is a faked dumbtell a mafia tell for LinearPoint... If I post an obvious dumbtell, you can almost assume that it was faked 100% of the time regardless of alignment.

Now... Just because that's me doesn't mean that's LinearPoint.


@LinearPoint can you provide any examples of where you faked a dumbtell as town? Also, will you own this?

[LinearPoint]

Neeko still doesn't see the contradiction even after pointed out.
The OP stated 7 Mafia and 1 3rd party, but the OP didn't say anything about a cabbage stew a few days ago.
Not sure when Nanook added it, but Neeko only remembers reading Hand of god and Alignment Assignments when first pinged.