GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Phil and Gloria]

[VOTE: Dyxleiscon] aubergine

[alexa]

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

[Phil and Gloria]

@alexa why aren't you just shooting paopan?

[Phil and Gloria]

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

lol never mind then

[Phil and Gloria]

falcon
hollowkatt
mr
dyslexicon

shoot in here imo

[alexa]

@alexa why aren't you just shooting paopan?

re-valled after last night and his ass essay responding and im not sure he's a wolf

[alexa]

@alexa why aren't you just shooting paopan?

re-valled after last night and his ass essay responding and im not sure he's a wolf

huge ass*

[c4e5g3d5]

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

I have an idea of where you can go

Were you paying attention to Sloonei's posting in RYM perchance? It was miles townier than this even with low engagement.

[Phil and Gloria]

Sloonei is probably a good shot

[dyachei]

alexa
Alison
Creature
Guillotine
hollowkatt
Justplayingitcool
nutella
Urist

112
Belzy
dyachei
Dyslexicon
falcon45ca
LinearPoint
Paopan
Seanzie

Tiers alphabetical but all these people look good

talk to me about 112? i dont remember much from them

I don't have a lot of specifics in mind but constant good insightful takes, like the slowly locking onto and conviction on Bo, generally not playing for attention

Any particular parts of the list you'd change?

I dont think HK has been particularly Ai yet

think belzy is higher for me, paopan not on my v list. I think i'd have sean higher too

[dyachei]

alexa I have you as slight v but im not ready to lock you in at all

[dyachei]

mr is flat i think. i think he's a wolf

[Seanzie]

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

Can I ask why you were so concerned with who Pao has played with before?

Like I get you thought there was a slip, but why would knowing who has played with Paopan help there?

[alexa]

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

Can I ask why you were so concerned with who Pao has played with before?

Like I get you thought there was a slip, but why would knowing who has played with Paopan help there?

there are a lot of outstanding players in this player list.

if paopan hadn't played with anyone besides me/scotty, it would make more sense for them to have that view point kind of??

a lot of the responses to my @ were people saying they haven't played with him which increases my "cold feet"

[Seanzie]

i think paopan may be town rn based on his response and my spiritual vote is not on him, just haven't figured out where to go yet

@dyachei what's your read on me rn?

Can I ask why you were so concerned with who Pao has played with before?

Like I get you thought there was a slip, but why would knowing who has played with Paopan help there?

there are a lot of outstanding players in this player list.

if paopan hadn't played with anyone besides me/scotty, it would make more sense for them to have that view point kind of??

a lot of the responses to my @ were people saying they haven't played with him which increases my "cold feet"

Okay, that's fair.

[falcon45ca]

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

[falcon45ca]

mr is flat i think. i think he's a wolf

I've been saying that for years

[112]

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

[falcon45ca]

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

It's been hours since I last overreacted, you don't have time for popcorn.


This is more of a twizzler situation

[112]

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

It's been hours since I last overreacted, you don't have time for popcorn.


This is more of a twizzler situation

I don't believe in twizzlers.

[hollowkatt]

falcon
hollowkatt
mr
dyslexicon

shoot in here imo

this is sad mac even for you. You traitor

[hollowkatt]

I like falcon and dya over the last couple of pages, they can get in the town bucket

[112]

Mac could be wolfing. I will hesitate to push him for the next few rounds until it's too late, then we can be sure.

[falcon45ca]

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

It's been hours since I last overreacted, you don't have time for popcorn.


This is more of a twizzler situation

I don't believe in twizzlers.

Nibs?

[falcon45ca]

I like falcon and dya over the last couple of pages, they can get in the town bucket

What have I done?

[112]

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

It's been hours since I last overreacted, you don't have time for popcorn.


This is more of a twizzler situation

I don't believe in twizzlers.

Nibs?

I'm Christian.

[falcon45ca]

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

It's been hours since I last overreacted, you don't have time for popcorn.


This is more of a twizzler situation

I don't believe in twizzlers.

Nibs?

I'm Christian.

Fuxk NIK is gunna be stoked.



He's been the only one for years


Also, sorry for your loss. I know it was like 2K years ago, but he said he'd be back & it's gotta be tough staring at the clock all this time

[112]

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

It's been hours since I last overreacted, you don't have time for popcorn.


This is more of a twizzler situation

I don't believe in twizzlers.

Nibs?

I'm Christian.

Fuxk NIK is gunna be stoked.



He's been the only one for years


Also, sorry for your loss. I know it was like 2K years ago, but he said he'd be back & it's gotta be tough staring at the clock all this time

Well, we don't just stare at the clock, although things have gotten somewhat less exciting ever since the Crusades stopped being a thing.

[hollowkatt]

I like falcon and dya over the last couple of pages, they can get in the town bucket

What have I done?

Both of these feel like townie posts to me. Your response to Mac reversing himself is very "wtf bruh" that I would expect from town whereas wolf might just ignore it and laugh later b/c "lol mac memes again"

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

I town read snark and I really like twizzlers, but mostly this is exactly the kind of post I'd respond with when I'm town.

literally ain't heard shit from Radishes or Dizzy all game and apparently I'm shootable? Neither of you actually have made the requisite effort to get to this read and as such I am not going to nuke you both.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, considering you said I'm shootable and I ain't heard shit from you all game...except for an odd town core post, that it would appear you've rescinded

It's been hours since I last overreacted, you don't have time for popcorn.


This is more of a twizzler situation

Basically I'm putting myself into your shoes and thinking "how would I respond if I were them and I'm town" and this is about where I get.

[ilario]

you're welcome

thanks for confirming ur an easy read and that my reads are good this game

[Paopan]

112 (wolf)
- I don't see any valuable information he gave aside from the BoKnow vote

alexa (town)
+1 - Incredible solvy (NAI, but its solvy so I'll give it a pass)
- Just gonna drop here that I view alexa and Alison as twins

Alison (town)
+1 - Incredible solvy
- for being voted by Marmot (might be a bus, might be a scum who got into Alison's crosshairs)

Belzy (town)
- Could've been a +1 or -1. But she's "too towny". It kinda sets my alarm off. Just noting

BoKnows (wolf)
-1 - No impact on the game. Policy D1 lynch?

c4e5g3d5 (town)
+1 - Incredible solvy

Creature (wolf)
-1 I don't like how he always rides along with someone else’s opinion
-1 Changing his vote without posting/telling publicly

DrWilgy (policy)
- No opinion. Just that he plays his typical scum play

dyachei (wolf)
- For shooting a wolf
- I don't feel good since C4 is already planning to shoot Marmot.
- Probably shot Marmot first to earn some town cred

Dyslexicon (wolf)
-1 "towny" intro feels off. I think this is a wolf

EnderWiggin (policy)
-1 No intention of playing the game. I'm deeply saddened

falcon45ca (wolf)
-1 Personally don't like the slot

Guillotine (town)
- Typical Guillo. Just likes to press people. Not familiar with scumplay soo there's that.

hollowkatt (town)
- Not sure about this slot. Is this her typical townplay?

ilario (town)
+1 okay okay pretty cool (might be a deep wolf. but that's a problem for another day)

Justplayingitcool (town)
+1 Cool entrance also, me likey

LinearPoint (wolf)
+1 Neeko is solvy, I like also
-1 I see no AtE which I am used to town!LP

Master Radishes (3P)
- Abilities feels like RNG, would benefit town; statistically speaking.
+1 for having 0 counterclaim on the 3P slot

NotAnAxehole (town)
- Would personally like to proceed with NAA regardless of alignment

nutella (wolf)
+1 or -1 - Creature and Nutella feels W/W

Phil and Gloria (town)
+1 for having the same tone when he's town, post lower than usual today (might be NAI but for me its good)

Porscha (wolf)
-1 Late entry and I do not like the entry :/

sabie12 (wolf)
-1 Don't like

Seanzie (town)
+1 Same gameplay as his townplay (might be a replicated play from his scum pool but meh)

sig (policy)
- Meh

Sloonei (policy)
-1 changes his train a lot, I don't like; non-helpful

TonyStarkPrime (wolf)
-1 for having non-towny post

Urist (town)
+1 for "outing" LP and starting the engine of day 1
-1 for deathtunelling LP (would be better to check who also TRs Neeko that would help us solve further)

Take:
You guys rely on meta-read too much.
If some players levelled up their gameplay. It's going to bite us in the end
Have so many wolf read atm
Marmot flip confirms my theory that Mafia Capt picked players instead of roles (mixed it with GOAT and non-GOAT players)

[alexa]

[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

i did not think this was necessary before i decided a new vote but someone commented about me voting here meaning i should just vig here and i tr them now

@ilario btw if you're not aware me and c4 have a day vig we need to use today

[Paopan]

My vote is still at sabie
There are way better votes? Probably
But I'm confident sabie will flip scum

[Seanzie]

112 (wolf)
- I don't see any valuable information he gave aside from the BoKnow vote

alexa (town)
+1 - Incredible solvy (NAI, but its solvy so I'll give it a pass)
- Just gonna drop here that I view alexa and Alison as twins

Alison (town)
+1 - Incredible solvy
- for being voted by Marmot (might be a bus, might be a scum who got into Alison's crosshairs)

Belzy (town)
- Could've been a +1 or -1. But she's "too towny". It kinda sets my alarm off. Just noting

BoKnows (wolf)
-1 - No impact on the game. Policy D1 lynch?

c4e5g3d5 (town)
+1 - Incredible solvy

Creature (wolf)
-1 I don't like how he always rides along with someone else’s opinion
-1 Changing his vote without posting/telling publicly

DrWilgy (policy)
- No opinion. Just that he plays his typical scum play

dyachei (wolf)
- For shooting a wolf
- I don't feel good since C4 is already planning to shoot Marmot.
- Probably shot Marmot first to earn some town cred

Dyslexicon (wolf)
-1 "towny" intro feels off. I think this is a wolf

EnderWiggin (policy)
-1 No intention of playing the game. I'm deeply saddened

falcon45ca (wolf)
-1 Personally don't like the slot

Guillotine (town)
- Typical Guillo. Just likes to press people. Not familiar with scumplay soo there's that.

hollowkatt (town)
- Not sure about this slot. Is this her typical townplay?

ilario (town)
+1 okay okay pretty cool (might be a deep wolf. but that's a problem for another day)

Justplayingitcool (town)
+1 Cool entrance also, me likey

LinearPoint (wolf)
+1 Neeko is solvy, I like also
-1 I see no AtE which I am used to town!LP

Master Radishes (3P)
- Abilities feels like RNG, would benefit town; statistically speaking.
+1 for having 0 counterclaim on the 3P slot

NotAnAxehole (town)
- Would personally like to proceed with NAA regardless of alignment

nutella (wolf)
+1 or -1 - Creature and Nutella feels W/W

Phil and Gloria (town)
+1 for having the same tone when he's town, post lower than usual today (might be NAI but for me its good)

Porscha (wolf)
-1 Late entry and I do not like the entry :/

sabie12 (wolf)
-1 Don't like

Seanzie (town)
+1 Same gameplay as his townplay (might be a replicated play from his scum pool but meh)

sig (policy)
- Meh

Sloonei (policy)
-1 changes his train a lot, I don't like; non-helpful

TonyStarkPrime (wolf)
-1 for having non-towny post

Urist (town)
+1 for "outing" LP and starting the engine of day 1
-1 for deathtunelling LP (would be better to check who also TRs Neeko that would help us solve further)

Take:
You guys rely on meta-read too much.
If some players levelled up their gameplay. It's going to bite us in the end
Have so many wolf read atm
Marmot flip confirms my theory that Mafia Capt picked players instead of roles (mixed it with GOAT and non-GOAT players)

I think most people are already here, but I am fairly confident this is town!Paopan. I can't explain this immediately for raisins, but likely can D2 if need be.

[alexa]

@Paopan talk to me about your read on sabie?

without iso'ing them i surface-level remember some kinda pingy posts but nothing that without iso'ing struck me as a hard wolf tell

[ilario]

I'm probably not going to catch up tonight, but I have a few things I want to say.

@Belzy I wasn't originally going to say anything, because I'm trying to be all cool lately. But I need to. You do realise that your read on me is entirely meme tier? I can not think of one single game where you don't scum read me first thing D1. I don't think you have mal intent here, but you seem to be operating with expectations of my play that are from 7 years ago. Please just consider this, and please spend time not only focusing on me.

Belzy
Sean
Guillo
Alexa

^These are the town reads I care the most about.

Sean cares about his own thoughts and suspicions and follows them up, and he's also doing classic town!Sean things in response to people either town reading him and accusing him.
Guillo has had many posts I found towny from him. Both Sean and Guillo are showing their paranoid town play styles imo. I think I'm pretty good at reading both of them actually.
Alexa is town for how she went about her role check on Nut. I also think that she wouldn't have a role check as mafia when that is how mafia makes the soup kill tbh, but that is kind of besides the point. Her posts are kind of "messy" in a way I find they are as town, while they are more deliberate as scum. I've also been pretty good at reading Alexa.

There's a bunch of players I town read to a lighter degree or even a pretty solid degree, probably too many, but the aforementioned are the ones I feel I have a better handle on reading.

In any case, I feel the game is in a pretty ok spot consensus-wise.

I have some concerns about Mac. Feels like he's not really landing any of his thoughts, and they seem to be a bit all over the place, which I find scummy for him.
I'm also suspicious of Scotty, feel like his posts are just awkward, trying to chime in but not really going anywhere.
Sabie is meh.

I think these are the things I've been thinking about the most.

dang when did i drop out of the list

[ilario]

Btw I liked that post from dizzy

[sabie12]

My vote is still at sabie
There are way better votes? Probably
But I'm confident sabie will flip scum

What happens when I flip town? What does that say about you?

[alexa]

i don't want to kill sabie12 is that is a thing

[TonyStarkPrime]

Lemme check

[dyachei]

i don't want to kill sabie12 is that is a thing

what are your thoughts on MR?

[112]

My vote is still at sabie
There are way better votes? Probably
But I'm confident sabie will flip scum

What happens when I flip town? What does that say about you?

Why does it have to say anything? Can villagers not have bad reads?

[alexa]

i don't want to kill sabie12 is that is a thing

if*

.-.

idk if they are sussed at all but their last post seemed villagery

[TonyStarkPrime]

Sabie kill is rand bad but barely, kill that slot if it can’t get 25 posts or so by eod

[ilario]

@c4e5g3d5
I would suggest to shoot in Radishes/TSP/Dizzy probably.

yikes broski

[ilario]

Like ender could be saying that without ill intentions but that still feels like a yikes list to me

[TonyStarkPrime]

I will say that Sabie TMIs like crazy as a wolf so if so we’ve basically already won

[alexa]

i don't want to kill sabie12 is that is a thing

what are your thoughts on MR?

no thoughts head empty

Spoiler: show

MR has seemed like classic MR energy but i've not tried to read him beyond the posts that have popped up when i'm here/have not tried to seriously evaluate this so he could be anything

also "classic MR energy" does not mean "classic town MR energy" it literally means what i said

what are your thoughts on him?

[112]

i didn't read paopan's list but having 9 wolves on it is >rand v

[TonyStarkPrime]

Who has shots and why also