GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also Alexa is sus for having the chance yo clear herself by shooting me when she has been throwing shade at me before my hard claim is sus as hell.

I think Alexa is a wolf and NAA is just a thrower, sadly.

Tbh this is maybe dumber than Alexa shooting Alison

[NotAnAxehole]

@Guillotine find a game where I fake claim a red check not named atla... Better yet, find a game where I fake claim a red check in a situation where town has a decent chance at winning.

[alexa]

Also Alexa is sus for having the chance yo clear herself by shooting me when she has been throwing shade at me before my hard claim is sus as hell.

I think Alexa is a wolf and NAA is just a thrower, sadly.

why the hell would i shoot you over a mech claimed red?

if you're V, me being clear = me guaranteed to be night killed and a dead villager.

[Phil and Gloria]

I think DrWilgy has some wolf equity. Anyone knows how to read them?

i wolfed with him before. he's a decent wolf and was pretty good at picking up townreads, but he ended up getting tunneled by Mac/Nook so i had to bus him day 1

@Phil and Gloria do you have a read on Wilgy?

i opened his iso earlier and i don't think he's out of his wolf range tbh but he could be any alignment

unless he's done more since he's poe

[Guillotine]

@Guillotine find a game where I fake claim a red check not named atla... Better yet, find a game where I fake claim a red check in a situation where town has a decent chance at winning.

You forgot why i stopped playing here for several months? It was because of you. You dont play to win, you play to troll.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Can we remove all discussion of NAA simply trolling until we’ve seen NAA’s role flip? Just for thread health?

[dyachei]

alexa im not sure there's much utility in continuing to argue over this. I can't see faking red claims as a wolf role personally. so you have to decide for yourself if this role exists or not?

[Sloonei]

Hi, let’s take personal issues to the mods please. For the sake of game health.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Actually this is an order thanks stop or I’ll grab a gun

[LinearPoint]

Nice, Neeko likes this page.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Mind meld with Sloonei Sloonei town

[Guillotine]

Ive seen NAA play as a wolf, he never takes risks like this as a wolf… he actually kind of dims down. So im certain he is town scum siding again.

[alexa]

alexa im not sure there's much utility in continuing to argue over this. I can't see faking red claims as a wolf role personally. so you have to decide for yourself if this role exists or not?

i've said repeatedly that i just don't believe the role exists, and especially if people are saying NAA does it anyway, why does the role exist and conveniently go to the person who does it anyway?

[NotAnAxehole]

@Guillotine find a game where I fake claim a red check not named atla... Better yet, find a game where I fake claim a red check in a situation where town has a decent chance at winning.

You forgot why i stopped playing here for several months? It was because of you. You dont play to win, you play to troll.

Ok, so you have one example where I've done a thing (fake claim a red) and in that example town was already in a really bad spot. One example of me doing it must therefore mean that I always do it.

Do you even have a higher winrate than me on site? Just curious - because it has been difficult trying to understand how people play here and to adjust my reads accordingly.

[Guillotine]

Im off to work.

Bye

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ok it’s very funny if NAA rolled NAA but like it happens like that sometimes

[dyachei]

alexa im not sure there's much utility in continuing to argue over this. I can't see faking red claims as a wolf role personally. so you have to decide for yourself if this role exists or not?

i've said repeatedly that i just don't believe the role exists, and especially if people are saying NAA does it anyway, why does the role exist and conveniently go to the person who does it anyway?

right so keep your vote there. but like arguing about it for the rest of the day doesnt seem like it's in our best interest and you seem to be getting upset

[falcon45ca]

Can we remove all discussion of NAA simply trolling until we’ve seen NAA’s role flip? Just for thread health?

Agreed

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think NAA is probably? just town

[TonyStarkPrime]

Like that slot will flip in the next few days because I can’t convince people of this but like

[nutella]

It's not the first time NAA fakes a red check and never rescinds only to backfire on us and the worse part is that he does it as town.

My vote is strictly policy. He needs to be chopped on day 1 in every game until he learns.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

lmao, if this is the case why are people arguing that he has a role that requires him to do it?

I dont know why Nutella said he's never done it, that is strange from her and a blatant lie.

NotAnAxehole does this, he fakes reds and dont rescind and throws games, he is a walking negative utility and tjose advocating to leave him in the game any further either love the game being trolled or are scum trying to use him to seed as much chaos as possible.

Im parking

it's not a lie i wasn't in the atla game and haven't seen it before, and he has given me every reason to believe i'm right about it being his role/required

and no. this is bad. i do not policy lynch. i just don't. if i think someone is town i keep them alive for numbers and prefer to vote off scum, always. we need to kill a wolf today. so kindly buzz off with this suboptimal bs

[TonyStarkPrime]

All scum are lurking is my guess and have not had takes on this nonsense

[Justplayingitcool]

I think NAA is probably? just town

agreed tbh

[Creature]

All scum are lurking is my guess and have not had takes on this nonsense

I suppose some of them came in to make useless commentary, probably falling more to the TMIish side.

[Belzy]

Now I am concerned about all this Axe talk. Yet, I had my prior reasons... maybe Dizzy or Wilg is an idea

[alexa]

alexa im not sure there's much utility in continuing to argue over this. I can't see faking red claims as a wolf role personally. so you have to decide for yourself if this role exists or not?

i've said repeatedly that i just don't believe the role exists, and especially if people are saying NAA does it anyway, why does the role exist and conveniently go to the person who does it anyway?

right so keep your vote there. but like arguing about it for the rest of the day doesnt seem like it's in our best interest and you seem to be getting upset

i'm trying to drop it but it keeps being brought up so it feels like people aren't listening. i'm mostly just annoyed that people are talking about it now but no one tried to stop me from shooting her (besides NAA, but he continued to claim the red when i said i'd be shooting her if he did). tbh, prob a wolf among those people. but, i will move on

[nutella]

Also Alexa is sus for having the chance yo clear herself by shooting me when she has been throwing shade at me before my hard claim is sus as hell.

I think Alexa is a wolf and NAA is just a thrower, sadly.

i am so very tempted to say something i shouldn't say

these are extremely bad takes

[112]

112 might also be wolf actively lurking

I am town trying to keep up, actually. Every time I check the thread there are 50-150 more posts.

[nutella]

Ive seen NAA play as a wolf, he never takes risks like this as a wolf… he actually kind of dims down. So im certain he is town scum siding again.

Dude if you think he's town get your damn vote off him or who's scumsiding then

[Creature]

112 might also be wolf actively lurking

I am town trying to keep up, actually. Every time I check the thread there are 50-150 more posts.

Okay fair

[nutella]

All scum are lurking is my guess and have not had takes on this nonsense

I suppose some of them came in to make useless commentary, probably falling more to the TMIish side.

yeah like c4

[falcon45ca]

All scum are lurking is my guess and have not had takes on this nonsense

I've been wondering that myself


[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

[LinearPoint]

So why did c4 shoot Bo? Neeko wasn't here for that and hadn't really read Bo's posts prior.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If anyone has concerns about gamethrowing, these should be brought privately to the host and/or mod team (myself, Dunia, juliets, and syn). Discussing this in thread is a no go, so please do not continue to do so, including any posts about it that have already been made. Thank you, and be kind to each other.

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@ 112
@ alexa
@ Belzy
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ EnderWiggin
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ NotAnAxehole
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ Seanzie
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Urist

[nutella]

I genuinely think c4 is deep wolfing but I don't expect anyone to care for several days

[Dyslexicon]

So NAA faked a fake red on Alison and Alexa shot her, she flipped town, and then some arguing.

I don't understand either the fake or shot on Alison. I think she was called out as someone who was likely cleared from Marmot by a few. So that was not good.

It seems Axe is softing a role that has to red check people. I don't really believe him. In any case, I also think he's most likely town. I'd say town or 3p, but probably not mafia unfortunately. I'd rather not chop there even if it's tempting, cause I could so easily see him flip town here and the thread just getting more tilted from it from here.

Only skimmed the last pages, if I missed something else important please let me know.

[112]

I genuinely think c4 is deep wolfing but I don't expect anyone to care for several days

I will keep this in mind for you.

[Dyslexicon]

Ender, Wilgy, LP all acceptable chops on the top of my head.

[c4e5g3d5]

This vc is lmfao (derogatory)

[Seanzie]

Not fully caught up, but saw enough to know the jist of what happened.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

Not even going to try to sort out his alignment. He very very well could be town here, but could also not be. Regardless, if he doesn't die today, conversations surrounding him will clog the thread for any days he is alive moving forward, so to avoid this, kinda think he should just die.

I'll probably try to see if there is a truly better suspect before EoD because like... a vig can (and should) take care of NAA tonight/tomorrow to avoid us wasting a TK on them, but if there isn't a place I feel my vote is spent better, I'll be happy to see NAA removed so we don't have to spend valuable threadhealth trying to discuss him later.

[c4e5g3d5]

I genuinely think c4 is deep wolfing but I don't expect anyone to care for several days

Genuinely why do people think I'm capable of this

[nutella]

This vc is lmfao (derogatory)

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

since i dont have strong feelings about todays chop i will just vote who i think is a wolf : )))))))))))))))))))))

[Dyslexicon]

I feel like there's quite a few people who think Axe is probably just town doing Axe things again though

[112]

I think a role requiring that a player make false redchecks would be highly inadvisable and I do not think it likely that such a thing would be added to a game, even a light & fun one like this.

[Dyslexicon]

I'll read c4

[Phil and Gloria]

So we're killing Axe today eh. Fun times.

[LinearPoint]

Is eod 5 minues or 1 hour 5 minutes away?

[Phil and Gloria]

I think a role requiring that a player make false redchecks would be highly inadvisable and I do not think it likely that such a thing would be added to a game, even a light & fun one like this.

lollll I wish I had time to backread this I'm sure the bullshit would make me cry

[NotAnAxehole]

I think Senzie is mafia here.

[LinearPoint]

OK, well neeko is going to assume day is about to end since no one is saying anything and Neeko doesn't think NAA is guaranteed Mafia she's throwing her vote at the other wagon.