GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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Has anyone seen TSP wolf? Can they highpost this enough?
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Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:27 pm Has anyone seen TSP wolf? Can they highpost this enough?
i have wolfed with them before and they definitely can
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:27 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:26 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:24 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:22 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:21 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:20 pm Also the public shot can still be useful for wolf considering they have control of the shot and can decide to shoot POEish town as opposed to wolf
shooting POEish is not usually super beneficial to wolves because it loses a mischop
Not really. Some POEish shots can be on players that could clear themselves later in the game. It's better POEish (and potentially clearable) town to be shot than wolf.
i guess, but i still don't think having a public vig is a huge prize for most wolves the same way it is for town
Still don't think NANOOK would've given something different for wolves winning the event
maybe not

i have not fully understood the momentum moving against c4, however. the best reason i see is.. engagement drop?
Yeah this.

I personally do give a touch of credence to Sloonei feeling he's spotted something, under the hopeful assumption Sloon is V.
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not shooting when you have publicly won a vig shot seems bad. there's always a shot that can be taken at this phase of the game.
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:27 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:26 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:24 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:22 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:21 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:20 pm Also the public shot can still be useful for wolf considering they have control of the shot and can decide to shoot POEish town as opposed to wolf
shooting POEish is not usually super beneficial to wolves because it loses a mischop
Not really. Some POEish shots can be on players that could clear themselves later in the game. It's better POEish (and potentially clearable) town to be shot than wolf.
i guess, but i still don't think having a public vig is a huge prize for most wolves the same way it is for town
Still don't think NANOOK would've given something different for wolves winning the event
maybe not

i have not fully understood the momentum moving against c4, however. the best reason i see is.. engagement drop?
I have seen c4 do this as town and he was heavily suspected for it
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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I think TSP has wolf equity and most of their posts felt like pocket attempts
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Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:27 pm Has anyone seen TSP wolf? Can they highpost this enough?
TSP highposts as a wolf and not so much when town iirc
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TSP slanked quite a bit in last years GoC
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Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:31 pm I think TSP has wolf equity and most of their posts felt like pocket attempts
They were also part of that Seanzie wagon which I still believe has to contain wolf
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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TSP can high post as both alignments but he's more likely to slank as town, correct
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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[unvote]Everyone[/unvote]
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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Currently
Sig (9)
Wiggly (8)
mac (8)
c4 (6)
HK (6)
Sabi (6)
TSP (6)

That's top 7
Final one is randomed between Paopan, MR, and 112 atm
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i need 5 more votes
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oh right i will unvote: Mac

the way Dizzy was talking about killing him/Scotty felt like not W/W
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Yeah that's one of my concerns with TSP too.
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what do people think about 112?
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alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:41 pm what do people think about 112?
I don't think there's anything preventing them from being wolf.
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alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:27 pm nutella has been pretty widely townread when i've been around except for a couple pet-pushes
Why sig claims the shot instead of keeping quite as a wolf Alexa?
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alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:41 pm what do people think about 112?
i think they can be wolf but it's more im running out of i town read and 112 is just there
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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[VOTE: 112] aubergine
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Guillotine wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:42 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:27 pm nutella has been pretty widely townread when i've been around except for a couple pet-pushes
Why sig claims the shot instead of keeping quite as a wolf Alexa?
WIFOM? i don't know. i'd like this argument better if they weren't already a top wagon when they did it
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i'm going through 112 iso now, first page is pretty bleh
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lmao

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TonyStarkPrime gonna be 3p
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

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Honestly 112 could very well just be a 3p. They kinda have the vibe they aren't Town, but Dizzy pretty much cleared 112 as not mafia.
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alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:42 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:27 pm nutella has been pretty widely townread when i've been around except for a couple pet-pushes
Why sig claims the shot instead of keeping quite as a wolf Alexa?
WIFOM? i don't know. i'd like this argument better if they weren't already a top wagon when they did it
What is the benefit of WIFOM here instead of just keeping it for yourself and not look sus for it?
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I also don't remember Sloonei doing much either
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Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:47 pm I also don't remember Sloonei doing much either
he'll happily tell you he hasnt fwiw

but I think the way he didnt produce a read even when I pressured him to looks decent
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Guillotine wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:46 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:42 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:27 pm nutella has been pretty widely townread when i've been around except for a couple pet-pushes
Why sig claims the shot instead of keeping quite as a wolf Alexa?
WIFOM? i don't know. i'd like this argument better if they weren't already a top wagon when they did it
What is the benefit of WIFOM here instead of just keeping it for yourself and not look sus for it?
Because sig was already sussed. Like, the highest wagon. So keeping it to yourself or not keeping yourself wouldn't really move the needle in that position. "Lol a wolf wouldn't announce that" could always be a hope. Or maybe they thought nutella was more POE'd than they are considering their post before it.

idk, sig could be a villager/i could be wrong but i wouldn't give them points for shooting nut
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Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:52 pm No, I think I have done a couple of things now.
is a couple things "much"?
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112 wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:44 pm uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one
does anyone know how 112 is as wolf/does he bus? if not this post may be a fairly good look
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I think I'm going back to DrWilgy because they're still an unresolved wagon and will still be possible wolf.

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alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:55 pm
112 wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:44 pm uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one
does anyone know how 112 is as wolf/does he bus? if not this post may be a fairly good look
That's what Neeko said. 112 pretty much can't be mafia.
No Mafia would ever bus 2 allies in one of their first posts.
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Oh yeah, I'm also not sure if I buy the townreads on sabie12
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lol if 112 was 3/3 there
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Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:15 pm 112
alexa - Mech and shot town with event vig
Belzy - Mech
c4e5g3d5 - Shot town with event vig
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dyachei - Shot wolf
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If we assume all mech is legit:

112

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greens are town imo

we have... /our/ poe.
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I'll bite this

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Still pretty sure 112 can only be at worst a 3p.
Not really in favor of uping them.
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dyachei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:53 pm
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is a couple things "much"?
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LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:59 pm Still pretty sure 112 can only be at worst a 3p.
Not really in favor of uping them.
Think we can get wolf within DrWilgy, sabie12 and TonyStarkPrime?
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Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:00 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:59 pm Still pretty sure 112 can only be at worst a 3p.
Not really in favor of uping them.
Think we can get wolf within DrWilgy, sabie12 and TonyStarkPrime?
Honestly probably more than one. Like 2-3.
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112 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:57 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:15 pm 112
alexa - Mech and shot town with event vig
Belzy - Mech
c4e5g3d5 - Shot town with event vig
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dyachei - Shot wolf
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Guillotine - Mech? Meh
hollowkatt - Mech
ilario - Shot wolf
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Paopan - Mech
Phil and Gloria
Porscha - Mech
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sig - Shot town
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
If we assume all mech is legit:

112

c4e5g3d5

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Phil and Gloria
sabie12
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
greens are town imo

we have... /our/ poe.
why do you townread tsp
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With probably Sabie being least likely to flip sucm.
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Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:01 pm
112 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:57 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:16 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:15 pm 112
alexa - Mech and shot town with event vig
Belzy - Mech
c4e5g3d5 - Shot town with event vig
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DrWilgy
dyachei - Shot wolf
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Guillotine - Mech? Meh
hollowkatt - Mech
ilario - Shot wolf
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Master Radishes
Paopan - Mech
Phil and Gloria
Porscha - Mech
sabie12
sig - Shot town
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
If we assume all mech is legit:

112

c4e5g3d5

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DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool
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Master Radishes
Phil and Gloria
sabie12
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
greens are town imo

we have... /our/ poe.
why do you townread tsp
actually a good question

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LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:56 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:55 pm
112 wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:44 pm uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one
does anyone know how 112 is as wolf/does he bus? if not this post may be a fairly good look
That's what Neeko said. 112 pretty much can't be mafia.
No Mafia would ever bus 2 allies in one of their first posts.
you'd be surprised

however, by page 2 of iso, i'm pretty sure he's not a wolf for his early treatment of dizzy
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