GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Creature]

sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, LinearPoint, Paopan, Creature, alexa, c4e5g3d5, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime

Pros:
- sabie12 is unreadable and potentially wolf
- Has c4e5g3d5

Cons:
- Some wolf names but meh

[Creature]

sig
Voters: alexa, Master Radishes, Paopan, falcon45ca, Justplayingitcool, Belzy, sabie12, hollowkatt, TonyStarkPrime

Pros:
- sig isn't helping town and can still be gambiting wolf

Cons:
- Not the most inspiring wagon
- Wagon is too big
- Still unresolved vig shot issue

Not sure if Belzy is really a pro anymore

[Guillotine]

Wilgy has been playing like he does give a flying cow if he is checked at night, shot etc etc.

[Creature]

TonyStarkPrime
Voters: Guillotine, Master Radishes, alexa, Justplayingitcool, sabie12, hollowkatt, Creature, LinearPoint

Pros:
- TonyStarkPrime can still be highposting wolf

Cons:
- Doesn't feel like anyone voting here is good enough at finding wolf

[falcon45ca]

Looks like mac has removed his vote from every player, and is now voting himself.




Never seen scum do that before...

[c4e5g3d5]

sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, LinearPoint, Paopan, Creature, alexa, c4e5g3d5, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime

Pros:
- sabie12 is unreadable and potentially wolf
- Has c4e5g3d5

Cons:
- Some wolf names but meh

Ftr it's a shrug vote so don't treat it as, like, a shining beacon of my accuracy

Nor should most of my votes be considered particularly accurate except for a couple recent games that I'm really hoping weren't just lucky

[Creature]

Wolves seem competent enough to create uncertainty

[Creature]

I might end up just voting every player that is close to unreadable

[Guillotine]

hollowkatt
Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Pros:
- Has Belzy
- hollowkatt looks wolfy

Cons:
- Some uninspiring names

Who are the uninspiring names Creature?

[Creature]

Namely

112
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Guillotine
hollowkatt
Master Radishes
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

[c4e5g3d5]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Shep was the real champ

[Creature]

hollowkatt
Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Pros:
- Has Belzy
- hollowkatt looks wolfy

Cons:
- Some uninspiring names

Who are the uninspiring names Creature?

Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

[Creature]

Almost tempted to say at least one of the players with s initials is wolf

[Guillotine]

hollowkatt
Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Pros:
- Has Belzy
- hollowkatt looks wolfy

Cons:
- Some uninspiring names

Who are the uninspiring names Creature?

Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

That is not some, that is MOST! When i read “some” i thought you meant a few, not almost all of it.

Why are they uninspiring for you?

[Creature]

Welp this wagon analysis wasn't really helpful

[Creature]

hollowkatt
Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Pros:
- Has Belzy
- hollowkatt looks wolfy

Cons:
- Some uninspiring names

Who are the uninspiring names Creature?

Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

That is not some, that is MOST! When i read “some” i thought you meant a few, not almost all of it.

Why are they uninspiring for you?

idk I said some because I read sabie12 at the time but I didn't count all names that were uninspiring.

They're uninspiring because I feel like any of these players can be wolves and I don't think any of them are good wolf hunters.

[Creature]

Maybe dyachei is the only player here I feel is doing fine at finding wolves

[hollowkatt]

There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch

I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.

[Creature]

Is sig ballsy enough to shoot obvtown and then claim the shot on them as wolf?

[Creature]

There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch

I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.

Wolves definitely aren't souping tonight, but in the long term it will suck for town as we start to claim our stuff.

[hollowkatt]

according to LP, Paopan has made a similar claim as scum. also, they've in general been very different from the game i've seen them in as V and have some questionable pushes so i still think paopan can be a wolf

paopan absolutely can be a wolf here yes. The only game I've seen them in they dropped a large reads list early that was functionally fluff, then proceeded to meh post the rest of the game day, then they died to the chop.

Their reads list they dropped early here is reminiscent of the list I saw in that game.

[Creature]

We'll likely see wolves getting 5 or more kills in a single night due claims

[hollowkatt]

There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch

I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.

Wolves definitely aren't souping tonight, but in the long term it will suck for town as we start to claim our stuff.

basically yeah but I'm prepared to lay my life down for town if and when it's needed.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Shep was the real champ

[c4e5g3d5]

We'll likely see wolves getting 5 or more kills in a single night due claims

Have long accepted that it's probably just a loss

Obv still try to do as well as possible

[Creature]

There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch

I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.

Wolves definitely aren't souping tonight, but in the long term it will suck for town as we start to claim our stuff.

basically yeah but I'm prepared to lay my life down for town if and when it's needed.

That's usually endgaming though (see last AtLA game).

[Creature]

Bit angry because I'm used to wolves not doing risky stuff but I feel like I'm seeing a culture where wolves actually do risky stuff

[Creature]

Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

[Sloonei]

Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

He’s shouted and screamed about having a very specific role, as far as I can remember.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: guillotine] aubergine
5/8

[c4e5g3d5]

Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh

[alexa]

Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh

uhhh i retract the mech tbh, i was blocked last night. maybe this was stupid to fake claim in case i got vigged but i was given a vest thus not worried

i just thought their reaction to my threat to shoot them was villagery and that dizzy seemed pockety toward him

[Creature]

Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh

Yeah, that's like the only thing for them. Bit hard when I don't know what that is so I can evaluate and it is not optimal for it to be revealed.

[Creature]

Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh

uhhh i retract the mech tbh, i was blocked last night. maybe this was stupid to fake claim in case i got vigged but i was given a vest thus not worried

i just thought their reaction to my threat to shoot them was villagery and that dizzy seemed pockety toward him

So likely wolves got a roleblocky role

[alexa]

Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh

uhhh i retract the mech tbh, i was blocked last night. maybe this was stupid to fake claim in case i got vigged but i was given a vest thus not worried

i just thought their reaction to my threat to shoot them was villagery and that dizzy seemed pockety toward him

So likely wolves got a roleblocky role

correct

[alexa]

i think that's a given anyways in a high-PR-setup

[Creature]

@alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.

@alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.

lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude

@alexa I hard claim screamer. The alignment and identity of the player that kills me is revealed in the thread. If you are town and wanna be inno child, just shoot me.

It does not work for soup kills though. So there, im dead either way, take the shot and carry us to victory if you are town

This is some of the ballsy stuff

[alexa]

Guillo is a ballsy wolf but I don't think he'd outright sacrifice himself like that as wolf/he would consider it letting down his team. So unless he's some sort of bomb, I just don't buy that he's a wolf

[Creature]

Guillo is a ballsy wolf but I don't think he'd outright sacrifice himself like that as wolf/he would consider it letting down his team. So unless he's some sort of bomb, I just don't buy that he's a wolf

How likely you were going to shoot him after that?

[Creature]

There's also the possibility the answer for this game might just be something straight obvious like sig, sabie12, DrWilgy, 112, maybe Paopan or maybe falcon45ca.

[hollowkatt]

There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch

I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.

Wolves definitely aren't souping tonight, but in the long term it will suck for town as we start to claim our stuff.

basically yeah but I'm prepared to lay my life down for town if and when it's needed.

That's usually endgaming though (see last AtLA game).

I know about the AtLA game, I was a wolf with Seanzie

[hollowkatt]

Yeah, I town read that interaction b/c it seemed genuinely frustrated. Wolf guillo LOVES fucking with town and craves getting one over on them. Town guillo loves being right and gets really frustrated when he feels he's being read wrongly or for shite reasons.

That is the only +Town thing I have for guillo.

[Phil and Gloria]

im sorry but this day just feels like too much of a clusterfuck for me to really pick through all that well, I am inclined to give Falcon points for where his votes are though.

[Creature]

The AtLA game really sucked. I was excited for the flavor but the play there was so poor and game was over way too early.

[alexa]

Guillo is a ballsy wolf but I don't think he'd outright sacrifice himself like that as wolf/he would consider it letting down his team. So unless he's some sort of bomb, I just don't buy that he's a wolf

How likely you were going to shoot him after that?

if i didn't feel like losing my PR would've been really bad/i was anything super weak, i may have shot him. and i don't think he could've anticipated i'd react that way, it sounded like he really was ok dying

[Sloonei]

Not doing anything with these numbers at the moment, but I just want to note that the best possible ratio at the moment is 15 town to 5 mafia to 1 independent. That situation is not as grim as we may be feeling right now, though it's also possible there are more third party roles active than the projection shows there. Today's megaball results will do a lot to determine the numbers moving forward. I have faith that we will not go 0 for 4 today, at the very least.

It is difficult-to-impossible to set an exact POE target number in a game where players are dropping like flies as they have been here. I'm not feeling very mathematically inclined at the moment anyway.

This post serves no purpose other than to help me calibrate my mindset.

[alexa]

[VOTE: MAC JPIC 112 LP] aubergine

not really committed to any of these but this is the best i got for my votes so far based on my reads outside. i think dizzy spewed sloonei town

[Creature]

Not doing anything with these numbers at the moment, but I just want to note that the best possible ratio at the moment is 15 town to 5 mafia to 1 independent. That situation is not as grim as we may be feeling right now, though it's also possible there are more third party roles active than the projection shows there. Today's megaball results will do a lot to determine the numbers moving forward. I have faith that we will not go 0 for 4 today, at the very least.

It is difficult-to-impossible to set an exact POE target number in a game where players are dropping like flies as they have been here. I'm not feeling very mathematically inclined at the moment anyway.

This post serves no purpose other than to help me calibrate my mindset.

Bit worried so far it feels like town has been given plenty of chances to kill wolf (and blew most of them).

[Sloonei]

Not doing anything with these numbers at the moment, but I just want to note that the best possible ratio at the moment is 15 town to 5 mafia to 1 independent. That situation is not as grim as we may be feeling right now, though it's also possible there are more third party roles active than the projection shows there. Today's megaball results will do a lot to determine the numbers moving forward. I have faith that we will not go 0 for 4 today, at the very least.

It is difficult-to-impossible to set an exact POE target number in a game where players are dropping like flies as they have been here. I'm not feeling very mathematically inclined at the moment anyway.

This post serves no purpose other than to help me calibrate my mindset.

Bit worried so far it feels like town has been given plenty of chances to kill wolf (and blew most of them).

Town's chances of success are lower early in a game when we are collectively less informed.

[Creature]

The possibility we were bamboozled by LinearPoint after almost getting D1 is also real