GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[alexa]

The possibility we were bamboozled by LinearPoint after almost getting D1 is also real

i don't love that vote but idk who else to do. i guess maybe it's better i stick with my initial gut on paopan even though i got confused about their alignment one game because people can very easily change meta and the claim thing was similar enough

[VOTE: UNVOTE LP VOTE PAOPAN] aubergine

[Creature]

The possibility we may miss all four lynches today just like we screwed EOD1 is also getting me

[c4e5g3d5]

[VOTE: MAC JPIC 112 LP] aubergine

not really committed to any of these but this is the best i got for my votes so far based on my reads outside. i think dizzy spewed sloonei town

I think Dizzy's treatment of Sloon was explicitly bad for Sloon
"Oh look, one tiny detail I can latch onto that both protects Sloon and lets me ignore Sloon for the rest of the day"

[alexa]

[VOTE: MAC JPIC 112 LP] aubergine

not really committed to any of these but this is the best i got for my votes so far based on my reads outside. i think dizzy spewed sloonei town

I think Dizzy's treatment of Sloon was explicitly bad for Sloon
"Oh look, one tiny detail I can latch onto that both protects Sloon and lets me ignore Sloon for the rest of the day"

maybe i need to spot check this - their early treatment of sloon was to say "sloonei underwhelming sloonei wolf" which i didn't think they'd say right away to a partner so i marked him as spewed and moved on

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Shep was the real champ

Not even mad, Shep was amazing.

This has made me realise this game has me, Sloonei, Dizzy, Dya. A mini reunion!

[Master Radishes]

Sloonei is town. There I said it.

[Sloonei]

Did the "LP slipped" thing ever get explained. Cause I didn't see anything. I don't think LP having weird/rigid logic is scummy for them. The way they called so many people scummy is kind of towny imo.

Do we read this post as more defensive of LP, or as trying to start the LP train back up?

[c4e5g3d5]

Okay apparently I forgot about the first post Dizzy made about Sloon whoops

All the others still look bad but reconsidering

[Justplayingitcool]

Did the "LP slipped" thing ever get explained. Cause I didn't see anything. I don't think LP having weird/rigid logic is scummy for them. The way they called so many people scummy is kind of towny imo.

Do we read this post as more defensive of LP, or as trying to start the LP train back up?

That reads to me as not w/w

[alexa]

Did the "LP slipped" thing ever get explained. Cause I didn't see anything. I don't think LP having weird/rigid logic is scummy for them. The way they called so many people scummy is kind of towny imo.

Do we read this post as more defensive of LP, or as trying to start the LP train back up?

this pretty explicitly feels like a defense of LP to me

idk if it's W/W or TMI-y though

[Justplayingitcool]

Like the first sentence seems weird when talking about a partner

[Sloonei]

Like the first sentence seems weird when talking about a partner

This is my thought. If Dizzy wants that issue to stay buried he can just, you know, not make that post. I'm inclined to say it's a good look for LP, but I can interpret a few ways.

[alexa]

i am voting some people i think are probably villagers



unfortunately there are 8 people left and only 5 wolves so this is inevitably going to happen to everyone

[Creature]

I feel like we were doing fine early-to-mid D1, so any wagon there is worth re-looking because they may have been right.

[alexa]

i'm just trying to protect people if i feel confident in them being town i guess

[c4e5g3d5]

I'm probably misclearing a ton of wolves and proud tbh

[Creature]

i am voting some people i think are probably villagers



unfortunately there are 8 people left and only 5 wolves so this is inevitably going to happen to everyone

Hoping we get four names we can be sure should include at least one wolf. I don't want to end up lynching four town.

[Sloonei]

But also there’s a lot of pretty hot and cute people in this game, so that helps.

I have one read and that is Guillo town. I’ll explain if that is controversial, but I don’t expect it to be.

I saw exactly one post from guillo last night and my gut was leaning towards town as well. I don't remember what that post was

He said he was gonna destroy wolves and gets things done on his own. And I kind of buy it, seems unnecessary flowery as a mafia lie.

I've only played one game with Guillo, he was scum, and what you bring up feels entirely NAI for him.

That said, if I had to compare one game of scum meta to this game so far, I'd lean him being Town too. He was a bit...more shouty/aggro in his exaggerations in the scum game (Spiderverse I think), whereas here he is just sorta firmly stating his takes.

Maybe. But of the few posts I looked at that is the one I remember as hitting as genuine rather than fake. I could be wrong, but I’m also often not wrong in early impressions. I just talk myself out if them later and crumble.

This post also gives off a bit of nervous energy. Like Dizzy initiated a point about Guillo and wasn't really prepared to respond the specific point that Maestro Radish brings up. It is a good look for the Radish.

[Creature]

I'm probably misclearing a ton of wolves and proud tbh

I flipflopped on every single living player

[Sloonei]

Town:
Alexa
Ilario
Belzy
Guillo
Sean
Nutella
Alison (think she cares about the game in a town way)
Paopan (don't know them, but surface level this just seems like town)

Jpic and Radish also seem ok.

Alison and Paopan are distinct from others on this list because Dizzy gave brief justifications for the reads.

JPIC and Radish are distinct because they are tacked on as afterthoughts.

I do not know what it means, if there is any significance to any of these placements. At least one teammate is named in this post, I'm sure. It is not alexa, ilario, belzy, seanzie, nutella, or alison. And if my last post is on the right path, it is not Master Radishes.

That leaves us with Guillo, paopan, and JPIC.

[Sloonei]

I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

How prominent was the discussion about LP being "outed" on Day 1? I was not here when any of this was happening.

[Justplayingitcool]

It ain’t me chief

[Justplayingitcool]

@Sloonei

There was also some discussion whether dizzy just posted all town names in that list

[alexa]

I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

How prominent was the discussion about LP being "outed" on Day 1? I was not here when any of this was happening.

It was essentially only Urist saying this

Urist died though which is a bit brow-raising

[Creature]

Current top 8:

112 (7)
c4e5g3d5 (7)
DrWilgy (9)
Phil and Gloria (9)
sabie12 (8)
sig (9)
TonyStarkPrime (8)

+ hollowkatt (6) or Paopan (6)

Can we count on having wolves here?

[Sloonei]

That was funny. Mine would be Dizzy and Dyslexicon then.

Or perhaps you and Axhole for real.

Scotty and Sabie are underwhelming. Why them compared to others?

Well, I did use to work as a comedian. Which I don't recommend to anyone.

I haven't seen them be topics much, and I haven't seen them be towny, so there would be a good chance there's scum there.
As for more "interesting flips" I'd say Marmot/Ender.
Also, the question is kind of meh in the first place. It's not even half way into D1 and a lot might change still.

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine
6/8

[Creature]

I think my four preferred lynches are

112
DrWilgy
sabie12
sig

Please, tell me this is not all town

[sabie12]

I'm registering that a lot of people say they would have picked me as mafia in a draft. And while that's cute, I would just like to make it clear that I would bitch slap the living shit out of anyone who did that. I think it's pretty widely known I hate to play as mafia lol.

I probably wouldn't draft you for mafia

Thank you, I appreciate it. I wouldn't either.

Haha wouldnt this be funny if it they were teammates though? Was there a good reason to townread creature? I know he voted dizzy but I've seen him bus teammates and I've seen him post how he is today as mafia in another game and he was pretty convincing.

[Creature]

I'm registering that a lot of people say they would have picked me as mafia in a draft. And while that's cute, I would just like to make it clear that I would bitch slap the living shit out of anyone who did that. I think it's pretty widely known I hate to play as mafia lol.

I probably wouldn't draft you for mafia

Thank you, I appreciate it. I wouldn't either.

Haha wouldnt this be funny if it they were teammates though? Was there a good reason to townread creature? I know he voted dizzy but I've seen him bus teammates and I've seen him post how he is today as mafia in another game and he was pretty convincing.

I wonder which game you've seen me as mafia because I think my last game as mafia was long ago

[Sloonei]

I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

How prominent was the discussion about LP being "outed" on Day 1? I was not here when any of this was happening.

It was essentially only Urist saying this

Urist died though which is a bit brow-raising

Dizzy feels inordinately drawn to the subject and I'm trying to figure out why. I feel like I'm missing most of the picture, but I want to bookmark it, at least.

[Master Radishes]

I've also been skimming Dizzy's iso, finally.

I may need to drop my Mac suss again tbh.

[Justplayingitcool]

Creature is the towniest person in this game lol

[alexa]

I've also been skimming Dizzy's iso, finally.

I may need to drop my Mac suss again tbh.

this is how I felt from Dizzy's iso earlier tbh

but i need to vote 8 people and couldn't resist Mac tbh

[Master Radishes]

Creature is the towniest person in this game lol

Yeah.

[Justplayingitcool]

I see town potential in LP, and I'd really like to know what Urist and Mac are seeing there as "outed".

How prominent was the discussion about LP being "outed" on Day 1? I was not here when any of this was happening.

It was essentially only Urist saying this

Urist died though which is a bit brow-raising

Dizzy feels inordinately drawn to the subject and I'm trying to figure out why. I feel like I'm missing most of the picture, but I want to bookmark it, at least.

I don’t see why a wolf bring it up if they were a partner

More likely they were just casually bringing it up to stir the pot without getting their hands dirty by defending LP at the same time

[sabie12]

I'm registering that a lot of people say they would have picked me as mafia in a draft. And while that's cute, I would just like to make it clear that I would bitch slap the living shit out of anyone who did that. I think it's pretty widely known I hate to play as mafia lol.

I probably wouldn't draft you for mafia

Thank you, I appreciate it. I wouldn't either.

Haha wouldnt this be funny if it they were teammates though? Was there a good reason to townread creature? I know he voted dizzy but I've seen him bus teammates and I've seen him post how he is today as mafia in another game and he was pretty convincing.

I wonder which game you've seen me as mafia because I think my last game as mafia was long ago

Twas a long time ago yes. Just trying to sort things out

[Master Radishes]

I'm struggling to really settle on names. Maybe it's just a sig/sabie/paopan?/etc world and I've been struggling because I'm avoiding that sort of world deliberately.

But I start adding up names I have decent reasons to townread and I quickly don't have many left.

[Master Radishes]

I've paid zero attention to LP this entire game. I don't know why. Something about the posting style.

I've also paid zero attention to Guillo but I know why.

[Sloonei]

[A bunch of town reads on people]

In any case, I feel the game is in a pretty ok spot consensus-wise.

I have some concerns about Mac. Feels like he's not really landing any of his thoughts, and they seem to be a bit all over the place, which I find scummy for him.
I'm also suspicious of Scotty, feel like his posts are just awkward, trying to chime in but not really going anywhere.
Sabie is meh.

I think these are the things I've been thinking about the most.

The Mac suspicion is new here. It feels oddly placed if they are teammates, unless they had cooked up a plan to distance from one another and then Dizzy suddenly realized he'd forgotten about it.

I'm tempted to throw a townie point at Phil & Gloria here because Dizzy specifically names Mac as a suspect. I feel like if this is distancing, Dizzy would have naturally referred to the hydra account as a hydra, rather than singling out one of its two heads.

[Master Radishes]

I've misread falcon a bunch lately, thinking scum when he's town. This time he doesn't feel like either, at least not his usual meta. But in a vacuum I find him a bit too appeasing. His read on me is too confident. Unless there are raisins I just don't know how long I can keep ignoring him and hoping something happens to help me settle on an opinion.

[Master Radishes]

Has Sprityo posted at all, I wonder.

[Phil and Gloria]

I've also been skimming Dizzy's iso, finally.

I may need to drop my Mac suss again tbh.

[Creature]

I think I'm overplaying this game. We need flips. Hopefully some of them turn out to be mafia.

[Master Radishes]

I think I'm overplaying this game. We need flips. Hopefully some of them turn out to be mafia.

At the rate this game is going I'm sure there'll be another shot soon.

[falcon45ca]

I've misread falcon a bunch lately, thinking scum when he's town. This time he doesn't feel like either, at least not his usual meta. But in a vacuum I find him a bit too appeasing. His read on me is too confident. Unless there are raisins I just don't know how long I can keep ignoring him and hoping something happens to help me settle on an opinion.

Oh FFS



I have a green check on you



Go ahead and soup me Maf

[Sloonei]

Wow, so many people so good at reading me here, how can I ever compete. My reads can only be tmi of course, cause I'm not as good!

This level of sass suggests that multiple people on the Dizzy wagon were town. Bussing potential decreasing.

[Phil and Gloria]

I think I'm overplaying this game. We need flips. Hopefully some of them turn out to be mafia.

yeah me too tbh

[Master Radishes]

I've misread falcon a bunch lately, thinking scum when he's town. This time he doesn't feel like either, at least not his usual meta. But in a vacuum I find him a bit too appeasing. His read on me is too confident. Unless there are raisins I just don't know how long I can keep ignoring him and hoping something happens to help me settle on an opinion.

Oh FFS



I have a green check on you



Go ahead and soup me Maf

Ah fuck that's what I was thinking but I got antsy.

[Phil and Gloria]

Wow, so many people so good at reading me here, how can I ever compete. My reads can only be tmi of course, cause I'm not as good!

This level of sass suggests that multiple people on the Dizzy wagon were town. Bussing potential decreasing.

I think you'll find that was a direct reply to me lol.

[alexa]

I've misread falcon a bunch lately, thinking scum when he's town. This time he doesn't feel like either, at least not his usual meta. But in a vacuum I find him a bit too appeasing. His read on me is too confident. Unless there are raisins I just don't know how long I can keep ignoring him and hoping something happens to help me settle on an opinion.

Oh FFS



I have a green check on you



Go ahead and soup me Maf

tbh why out this

you're both in my towncore