GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[dyachei]

My focus? It is the first time i mention it.
And it is a multiball game, why shouldnt i mention it, ALL SCUM are threats to me, 3Ps and Mafia alike and should be burnt with fire equally.

3p doesn't make something multiball

and really wolves care more about 3p than villagers do typically

your focus meaning the brain power you put into the post talking about 3p

3Ps are a threat to us and iñario and Alexa feel like scum from different factions.

Are you gonna tell me that it does not look weird that ilario says that he scum reads Alexa but still gonna not push her because town is annoying him and wants her to win in spite? Huh?

Go and read there if you are town.

why are you assuming i havent read it?

Im making some assumptions based on the fact that pushing alexa today is pointless (our elims are locked into people that are NOT alexa) and ilario has said what he's needed to say about her. This is not an issue for today, it's an issue for tomorrow when we can do something about it.

The winning in spite thing is probably just frustration more than anything else. I dont always take everyone's words at face value and ilario especially has enough pride in his game i dont think he'd do that

Im assuming you havent because you say im focusing on 3P when it is the first time i bring it up. I dont think you have read my ISO and i think you could be a wolf trying to get me chopped by scumpainting me with the narrative that im 3P hunting, no! Im scum hunting, i wanna kill both slowly and painfully, equally.

I dont care if Alexa is not on the chopping block or ilario, the game will not get solved even if all 4 chops today are correct and i very doubt that they are all correct, im not like Alexa who thinks that because i might die, i shouldnt be outing my thoughts. Somyes, it is an issue for today because i dont know if i will live tomorrow.

I WILL NOT BE SILENCED!

And about ilario, if it is frustration, get it together… remember that everyone must play to win.

no one is silencing you

I voted you. if voting you makes you want to be silent, that's a personal problem

You've now devoted more than 1 post to 3p hunting and defending 3p hunting. Anyone with eyes can see it in thread

No, your vote is a threat to our win condition because im town and you are scum painting me with “im hunting for 3P”. No, im hunting them all! I want them all DEATH

i see you think i'm town.

[alexa]

3P are going to play like villagers in this type of game anyway

[Justplayingitcool]

just because it says faction, it doesn't necessarily mean there is more than one in that group. Dya is right and we should focus primarily on who are wolves. HK's flip may help clear it up

also, I can vouch for alexa on the alison shot. I was there and NAA was asked several times to rescind if fake, so it wasn't like it was an immediate shot

It does not necessarily mean it is a group scum faction no, but it may, so why not consider that angle? The fact that there is resistance in considering it means it might be true.

You could be right; I just don't think it's worth thinking about too much this phase until we have seen HK's flip

[Creature]

If we have two antitown factions then better both kill each other.

[dyachei]

is that tmi from guillo? guy said he didnt even notice me before now, but puts me into the town column when speaking about me

[TonyStarkPrime]

oh my goodness it's a war of the tmi accusations

[Justplayingitcool]

is that tmi from guillo? guy said he didnt even notice me before now, but puts me into the town column when speaking about me

I'd have probably written 'our' in that context as well tbh

[Guillotine]

like if your perspective is that 3p makes it multiball, im even more convinced you're seeing this from a wolf perspective

Well considering i host games every month and i have a vast experience on the matter im confident my opinion and my knowledge can help unlock the game.
I dont see why it shouldnt be looked upon when the OP said there is a 3P FACTION

i've also hosted games and have probably played mafia longer than you've been alive

faction just means 3p exists. it doesn't make it multiball

again your focus there is wolfy

Longer than me? I doubt that very much unless you gave played werewolf before Dimitry Davidoff invented it in 1986. Ive been playing this game for 20 years and 4 months.

still have you beat at 23 years of playing mafia

Ok well we both played a long time, people like us that have played two decades deserve some credit for our reads and info we out in the thread, so i just dont get why a player having played all that long are not considering that there could be a 3P group scum, when like me, you should have seen it all already.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i have 30 years of playing mafia nerds

[dyachei]

like if your perspective is that 3p makes it multiball, im even more convinced you're seeing this from a wolf perspective

Well considering i host games every month and i have a vast experience on the matter im confident my opinion and my knowledge can help unlock the game.
I dont see why it shouldnt be looked upon when the OP said there is a 3P FACTION

i've also hosted games and have probably played mafia longer than you've been alive

faction just means 3p exists. it doesn't make it multiball

again your focus there is wolfy

Longer than me? I doubt that very much unless you gave played werewolf before Dimitry Davidoff invented it in 1986. Ive been playing this game for 20 years and 4 months.

still have you beat at 23 years of playing mafia

Ok well we both played a long time, people like us that have played two decades deserve some credit for our reads and info we out in the thread, so i just dont get why a player having played all that long are not considering that there could be a 3P group scum, when like me, you should have seen it all already.

because i care more about finding wolves. Wolves care a lot about finding 3p

[dyachei]

i have 30 years of playing mafia nerds

youngin'

[TonyStarkPrime]

gonna start adopting a creature-esque doomerism

[alexa]

like if your perspective is that 3p makes it multiball, im even more convinced you're seeing this from a wolf perspective

Well considering i host games every month and i have a vast experience on the matter im confident my opinion and my knowledge can help unlock the game.
I dont see why it shouldnt be looked upon when the OP said there is a 3P FACTION

i've also hosted games and have probably played mafia longer than you've been alive

faction just means 3p exists. it doesn't make it multiball

again your focus there is wolfy

Longer than me? I doubt that very much unless you gave played werewolf before Dimitry Davidoff invented it in 1986. Ive been playing this game for 20 years and 4 months.

still have you beat at 23 years of playing mafia

Ok well we both played a long time, people like us that have played two decades deserve some credit for our reads and info we out in the thread, so i just dont get why a player having played all that long are not considering that there could be a 3P group scum, when like me, you should have seen it all already.

there were only 3 kills last night and 2 of them were claimed, 1 as a 3P claim. if there's a 3P faction we'll see it with HK's flip, but he's had no defenders and feels pretty alone to me.

[alexa]

also i don't think he'd claim 3P if he was part of a faction tbh.

[Justplayingitcool]

gonna start adopting a creature-esque doomerism

[Justplayingitcool]

lol didnt pick a great gif

[Guillotine]

If we have two antitown factions then better both kill each other.

Hence my read on ilario and Alexa. It looks exactly like that, two scum hedging on each other acting uncharacteristically to their town meta,

[alexa]

If we have two antitown factions then better both kill each other.

Hence my read on ilario and Alexa. It looks exactly like that, two scum hedging on each other acting uncharacteristically to their town meta,

i'm not "hedging" on him. i've had him as a lock villager for awhile now, you are misrepresenting me.

[Guillotine]

like if your perspective is that 3p makes it multiball, im even more convinced you're seeing this from a wolf perspective

Well considering i host games every month and i have a vast experience on the matter im confident my opinion and my knowledge can help unlock the game.
I dont see why it shouldnt be looked upon when the OP said there is a 3P FACTION

i've also hosted games and have probably played mafia longer than you've been alive

faction just means 3p exists. it doesn't make it multiball

again your focus there is wolfy

Longer than me? I doubt that very much unless you gave played werewolf before Dimitry Davidoff invented it in 1986. Ive been playing this game for 20 years and 4 months.

still have you beat at 23 years of playing mafia

Ok well we both played a long time, people like us that have played two decades deserve some credit for our reads and info we out in the thread, so i just dont get why a player having played all that long are not considering that there could be a 3P group scum, when like me, you should have seen it all already.

because i care more about finding wolves. Wolves care a lot about finding 3p

Sorry but i care about the greatness of finding both. Do you understand that BOTH are a threat to us (town)? Come on, get those 23 years pumping, show me they were not for nothing.

[dyachei]

Well considering i host games every month and i have a vast experience on the matter im confident my opinion and my knowledge can help unlock the game.
I dont see why it shouldnt be looked upon when the OP said there is a 3P FACTION

i've also hosted games and have probably played mafia longer than you've been alive

faction just means 3p exists. it doesn't make it multiball

again your focus there is wolfy

Longer than me? I doubt that very much unless you gave played werewolf before Dimitry Davidoff invented it in 1986. Ive been playing this game for 20 years and 4 months.

still have you beat at 23 years of playing mafia

Ok well we both played a long time, people like us that have played two decades deserve some credit for our reads and info we out in the thread, so i just dont get why a player having played all that long are not considering that there could be a 3P group scum, when like me, you should have seen it all already.

because i care more about finding wolves. Wolves care a lot about finding 3p

Sorry but i care about the greatness of finding both. Do you understand that BOTH are a threat to us (town)? Come on, get those 23 years pumping, show me they were not for nothing.

dont be insulting

I think wolves are a bigger threat and are my priority. We're doing a pretty shitty job of finding them right now. we have a claimed 3p who we're putting up for elim. lets worry about more 3p if we have to. not just because we saw the word faction and assumed a group

[Guillotine]

If we have two antitown factions then better both kill each other.

Hence my read on ilario and Alexa. It looks exactly like that, two scum hedging on each other acting uncharacteristically to their town meta,

i'm not "hedging" on him. i've had him as a lock villager for awhile now, you are misrepresenting me.

Sorry but your reaction to him does not make sense even if i didnt have meta from you who wouldnt react the way you did to ilario pushing you.

You dont strike for a player who'd accept misrepresentation, case in point, you just pushed back at me, but you didnt do the same for ilario. Why?

[hollowkatt]

guillo you're being performatively paranoid and it's not a good look on you

[Guillotine]

i've also hosted games and have probably played mafia longer than you've been alive

faction just means 3p exists. it doesn't make it multiball

again your focus there is wolfy

Longer than me? I doubt that very much unless you gave played werewolf before Dimitry Davidoff invented it in 1986. Ive been playing this game for 20 years and 4 months.

still have you beat at 23 years of playing mafia

Ok well we both played a long time, people like us that have played two decades deserve some credit for our reads and info we out in the thread, so i just dont get why a player having played all that long are not considering that there could be a 3P group scum, when like me, you should have seen it all already.

because i care more about finding wolves. Wolves care a lot about finding 3p

Sorry but i care about the greatness of finding both. Do you understand that BOTH are a threat to us (town)? Come on, get those 23 years pumping, show me they were not for nothing.

dont be insulting

I think wolves are a bigger threat and are my priority. We're doing a pretty shitty job of finding them right now. we have a claimed 3p who we're putting up for elim. lets worry about more 3p if we have to. not just because we saw the word faction and assumed a group

Im not insulting you, if you took it as an insult, it is your ego. This is me believing you played 23 years and raising my bar of expectations fromyoum we ate not noobs.

[dyachei]

Longer than me? I doubt that very much unless you gave played werewolf before Dimitry Davidoff invented it in 1986. Ive been playing this game for 20 years and 4 months.

still have you beat at 23 years of playing mafia

Ok well we both played a long time, people like us that have played two decades deserve some credit for our reads and info we out in the thread, so i just dont get why a player having played all that long are not considering that there could be a 3P group scum, when like me, you should have seen it all already.

because i care more about finding wolves. Wolves care a lot about finding 3p

Sorry but i care about the greatness of finding both. Do you understand that BOTH are a threat to us (town)? Come on, get those 23 years pumping, show me they were not for nothing.

dont be insulting

I think wolves are a bigger threat and are my priority. We're doing a pretty shitty job of finding them right now. we have a claimed 3p who we're putting up for elim. lets worry about more 3p if we have to. not just because we saw the word faction and assumed a group

Im not insulting you, if you took it as an insult, it is your ego. This is me believing you played 23 years and raising my bar of expectations fromyoum we ate not noobs.

you're implying that to be good at mafia i have to think like you.

i dont care if you've raised the bar or not. not agreeing with you just means I'm seeing the game from my own perspective

[Guillotine]

guillo you're being performatively paranoid and it's not a good look on you

I dont care.

Anyone should know by now that i dont play in a survivalist way. I will never be silenced, i will never ve silenced. If you want me to stop outing my thoughts and pushing people for info, you either chop me or night kill me. Period.

This is actually proof there is no way i am a wolf, i had two votes on me, i could have just lay low since in on tje chopping block and anything could get me chopped.
Me putting my life on the line to finally contribute in my day off, should tell you that im town and me getting push back and high sus after i said that there might be another scum group… should tell you something is up lol.

[Creature]

The wolf factions better start killing each other tonight.

[alexa]

If we have two antitown factions then better both kill each other.

Hence my read on ilario and Alexa. It looks exactly like that, two scum hedging on each other acting uncharacteristically to their town meta,

i'm not "hedging" on him. i've had him as a lock villager for awhile now, you are misrepresenting me.

Sorry but your reaction to him does not make sense even if i didnt have meta from you who wouldnt react the way you did to ilario pushing you.

You dont strike for a player who'd accept misrepresentation, case in point, you just pushed back at me, but you didnt do the same for ilario. Why?

i don't react to pushes from one person in large games because they don't matter. you're using comparative meta to much smaller games when i was in danger. you literally pushed v!me last hydra game because i over-reacted to your push on me when you saw how i didn't care about it in anni. why do i care about ilario expressing doubt on my alignment for nebulous reasons when i'm not in danger? he does this nearly every game he's a villager in, him doing it here does not make me feel any differently about his alignment and convincing him that i'm a villager did not seem like the best use of my time. but, i did respond to his paragraphs on me anyway

i don't think that he entirely "misrepresented me" as much as he painted a narrative that he thought made sense in a world where i was a wolf, but the truth is my actions make a lot more sense as a villager. i think he believes his push. i don't think that he, as a wolf, goes "alexa is a wolf but i don't care about pushing her," that wouldn't make any sense to me.

[Guillotine]

still have you beat at 23 years of playing mafia

Ok well we both played a long time, people like us that have played two decades deserve some credit for our reads and info we out in the thread, so i just dont get why a player having played all that long are not considering that there could be a 3P group scum, when like me, you should have seen it all already.

because i care more about finding wolves. Wolves care a lot about finding 3p

Sorry but i care about the greatness of finding both. Do you understand that BOTH are a threat to us (town)? Come on, get those 23 years pumping, show me they were not for nothing.

dont be insulting

I think wolves are a bigger threat and are my priority. We're doing a pretty shitty job of finding them right now. we have a claimed 3p who we're putting up for elim. lets worry about more 3p if we have to. not just because we saw the word faction and assumed a group

Im not insulting you, if you took it as an insult, it is your ego. This is me believing you played 23 years and raising my bar of expectations fromyoum we ate not noobs.

you're implying that to be good at mafia i have to think like you.

i dont care if you've raised the bar or not. not agreeing with you just means I'm seeing the game from my own perspective

What? No. I inever implied that, again, that is your ego.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i posit first blood might have been drawn in that war

[TonyStarkPrime]

but again I don't think this is a profitable use of our time it's highly likely that this is all insane speculation

[hollowkatt]

guillo you're being performatively paranoid and it's not a good look on you

I dont care.

Anyone should know by now that i dont play in a survivalist way. I will never be silenced, i will never ve silenced. If you want me to stop outing my thoughts and pushing people for info, you either chop me or night kill me. Period.

This is actually proof there is no way i am a wolf, i had two votes on me, i could have just lay low since in on tje chopping block and anything could get me chopped.
Me putting my life on the line to finally contribute in my day off, should tell you that im town and me getting push back and high sus after i said that there might be another scum group… should tell you something is up lol.

now you have 3 votes.

[Creature]

Actually, I think different wolf factions don't make a lot of sense because of the mechanisms involved (captain, soup kill, slanker kill).

[Creature]

Why are we even speculating a third party faction?

[Creature]

Why are we even speculating a third party faction?

We can't even find wolf

[dyachei]

Actually, I think different wolf factions don't make a lot of sense because of the mechanisms involved (captain, soup kill, slanker kill).

also total number of kills at night doesnt really imply 2 wolf factions

[Justplayingitcool]

Why are we even speculating a third party faction?

lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why are we even speculating a third party faction?

in my case it's literally like one weird post that belzy made and then other people talking about it

[alexa]

Why are we even speculating a third party faction?

We can't even find wolf

lol

[Creature]

Are we still lynching sabie?

I can understand sig because I'm not sure he has another shot and the only shot he had he used on obvtown, but sabie used her shot on Ender (who was suspected) and claims to have another shot tonight so maybe lynching her is pretty suboptimal here?

[Creature]

I wonder if I should be worried about c4e5g3d5 disappearing since the top 8 was announced

[alexa]

yeah the mechanics clearly imply there's 1 wolf faction. there could be a 3P faction but numbers suggest it's not larger than 2-3 and they'd likely play like villagers anyway, plus 1 3P is legit outed

[Guillotine]

guillo you're being performatively paranoid and it's not a good look on you

I dont care.

Anyone should know by now that i dont play in a survivalist way. I will never be silenced, i will never ve silenced. If you want me to stop outing my thoughts and pushing people for info, you either chop me or night kill me. Period.

This is actually proof there is no way i am a wolf, i had two votes on me, i could have just lay low since in on tje chopping block and anything could get me chopped.
Me putting my life on the line to finally contribute in my day off, should tell you that im town and me getting push back and high sus after i said that there might be another scum group… should tell you something is up lol.

now you have 3 votes.

Which will hopefully put them under scrutiny when town see my flip, i mean i really hope so, historically speaking even town discredits my legacy only to find out i was right post game but i can hope it will change this time. It would be alot lot better if i was shot though.

¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯

[Guillotine]

yeah the mechanics clearly imply there's 1 wolf faction. there could be a 3P faction but numbers suggest it's not larger than 2-3 and they'd likely play like villagers anyway, plus 1 3P is legit outed

The 3P is not yet outed until they flip. HK could still be just mafia claiming 3P to survive.

[Creature]

I'm at leave Guillo to be shot tomorrow.

[alexa]

yeah the mechanics clearly imply there's 1 wolf faction. there could be a 3P faction but numbers suggest it's not larger than 2-3 and they'd likely play like villagers anyway, plus 1 3P is legit outed

The 3P is not yet outed until they flip. HK could still be just mafia claiming 3P to survive.

yeah, but idk why he'd do that with 4 chops. literally just secures his death and let's down his team. which is part of why i don't think he's a faction either

[Creature]

I'd rather leave sabie alive too

She claims to have a good poem and we really need to beat wolves at the poems event if we want to stand a chance

[dyachei]

I'd rather leave sabie alive too

She claims to have a good poem and we really need to beat wolves at the poems event if we want to stand a chance

i unvoted her yesterday sometime. I think her claim is more believable

[alexa]

[VOTE: UNVOTE SABIE VOTE WILGY] aubergine

[Guillotine]

If we have two antitown factions then better both kill each other.

Hence my read on ilario and Alexa. It looks exactly like that, two scum hedging on each other acting uncharacteristically to their town meta,

i'm not "hedging" on him. i've had him as a lock villager for awhile now, you are misrepresenting me.

Sorry but your reaction to him does not make sense even if i didnt have meta from you who wouldnt react the way you did to ilario pushing you.

You dont strike for a player who'd accept misrepresentation, case in point, you just pushed back at me, but you didnt do the same for ilario. Why?

i don't react to pushes from one person in large games because they don't matter. you're using comparative meta to much smaller games when i was in danger. you literally pushed v!me last hydra game because i over-reacted to your push on me when you saw how i didn't care about it in anni. why do i care about ilario expressing doubt on my alignment for nebulous reasons when i'm not in danger? he does this nearly every game he's a villager in, him doing it here does not make me feel any differently about his alignment and convincing him that i'm a villager did not seem like the best use of my time. but, i did respond to his paragraphs on me anyway

i don't think that he entirely "misrepresented me" as much as he painted a narrative that he thought made sense in a world where i was a wolf, but the truth is my actions make a lot more sense as a villager. i think he believes his push. i don't think that he, as a wolf, goes "alexa is a wolf but i don't care about pushing her," that wouldn't make any sense to me.

This is exactly why you are easy to pocket Alexa, you dont think outside of the box and you hold people to specific standards when it comes to interacting with you?
Don't i know, i have easily pocketed you twice, once in high noon and the other in our last game.

Ilario is appeasing you with i think you are scum but i want you to win anyway, you ate appeasing him by accepting it and not pushing back on it.

[hollowkatt]

yeah the mechanics clearly imply there's 1 wolf faction. there could be a 3P faction but numbers suggest it's not larger than 2-3 and they'd likely play like villagers anyway, plus 1 3P is legit outed

The 3P is not yet outed until they flip. HK could still be just mafia claiming 3P to survive.

if I'm mafia here my goals are to be in hard anti-spew, have some laughs, and vanish long before the end of the day. As in I probably never come back to the thread after making the top 8 b/c all it does is risk spewing more information than needs be. but continue, please