GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[alexa]

im extremely multi-tasking with work right now so i was not able to just check this until minutes ago but apparently my vest was popped. so IDK if c4 was a maf target too or what

I was actually thinking C4 felt like a vig target, and that the scum missed. Interesting.

Weird because I feel like wolves would always block sabie here.

did sabie claim to have another shot?

[Belzy]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

[Phil and Gloria]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

This reads like a "distrust roles" and I'm not a big fan

Thats exactly how one should approach the situation in this game state. We have thread killed exactly zero mafia.

Well, that's about to change. You're welcome





If you're actually town, quit playing the pouty, petulant kid w/ talent and join the team

I am playing the voice of reason actually.

[Master Radishes]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

[LinearPoint]

I think it should be 11 v 5 now if there are no 3ps left. Still we should avoid claiming because soup.

Pretty sure falcon's the only claim so far.
So assuming Dizzy's check is still alive they have 2 soup kills at the moment.
it'll be 11 v 4 so they'd have to soup 7 people to win. We're pretty far off from losing to soup right now.

[Creature]

im extremely multi-tasking with work right now so i was not able to just check this until minutes ago but apparently my vest was popped. so IDK if c4 was a maf target too or what

I was actually thinking C4 felt like a vig target, and that the scum missed. Interesting.

Weird because I feel like wolves would always block sabie here.

did sabie claim to have another shot?

I think she did? She said wolves wanted to get rid of her so she implied she had another shot.

[Belzy]

Tsp
Mac
Sloonei
...

Could dyachei be 3p? Not mafia cuz of their vig shot.

[Justplayingitcool]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

[Belzy]

And jpit also scummy.

[Phil and Gloria]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

Yah, that's what I was thinking and hence I am suspecting Belzy and Porscha. I think falcon's claim is legit though.

The reason I am distrusting of Falcon is because his check saved Radishes who has subsequently not been killed despite being a so called green check and Radishes has been openwolfing today and would be wagoned if not for that.

[Porscha]

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Bandwagon vote. Scummy.

how is it bandwagon when he red checked tsp? I think it would be weirder if the guy who found red check didnt vote for red check

[Creature]

I think it should be 11 v 5 now if there are no 3ps left. Still we should avoid claiming because soup.

Pretty sure falcon's the only claim so far.
So assuming Dizzy's check is still alive they have 2 soup kills at the moment.
it'll be 11 v 4 so they'd have to soup 7 people to win. We're pretty far off from losing to soup right now.

alexa might be wolf which would indicate wolves have another role cop.

[Belzy]

Jpic also scummy

[alexa]

im extremely multi-tasking with work right now so i was not able to just check this until minutes ago but apparently my vest was popped. so IDK if c4 was a maf target too or what

I was actually thinking C4 felt like a vig target, and that the scum missed. Interesting.

Weird because I feel like wolves would always block sabie here.

did sabie claim to have another shot?

I think she did? She said wolves wanted to get rid of her so she implied she had another shot.

i don't think "wolves wanted to get rid of me" necessarily implies that

but either she shot me and missed my vest claim or she shot c4 or wolves shot us both

or she is the wolf night vig, i don't know

[Justplayingitcool]

And jpit also scummy.

why

[Phil and Gloria]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

[Master Radishes]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

Remember Tim in last year's GoC?

Not applicable to this situation just reminiscing.

[Creature]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

Yah, that's what I was thinking and hence I am suspecting Belzy and Porscha. I think falcon's claim is legit though.

The reason I am distrusting of Falcon is because his check saved Radishes who has subsequently not been killed despite being a so called green check and Radishes has been openwolfing today and would be wagoned if not for that.

Didn't someone say falcon never fakeclaims as wolf?

[Porscha]

im extremely multi-tasking with work right now so i was not able to just check this until minutes ago but apparently my vest was popped. so IDK if c4 was a maf target too or what

I was actually thinking C4 felt like a vig target, and that the scum missed. Interesting.

Weird because I feel like wolves would always block sabie here.

did sabie claim to have another shot?

I thought she said her role has 2 shots but I could be misremembering and I'm working so i'm not gonna spend time staring down iso

[LinearPoint]

I think it should be 11 v 5 now if there are no 3ps left. Still we should avoid claiming because soup.

Pretty sure falcon's the only claim so far.
So assuming Dizzy's check is still alive they have 2 soup kills at the moment.
it'll be 11 v 4 so they'd have to soup 7 people to win. We're pretty far off from losing to soup right now.

alexa might be wolf which would indicate wolves have another role cop.

Possibly, but if Nutella was her actual check like she implied then they don't have a soup from her.
Of course they could have more, but Dizzy was a 1-shot right?

[Phil and Gloria]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

No I am trying my best to coordinate the town into opening their fucking eyes.

[Justplayingitcool]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

Yah, that's what I was thinking and hence I am suspecting Belzy and Porscha. I think falcon's claim is legit though.

The reason I am distrusting of Falcon is because his check saved Radishes who has subsequently not been killed despite being a so called green check and Radishes has been openwolfing today and would be wagoned if not for that.

We have a lot of mechanically 'proven' slots in the game so far. I'm not too worried about that at the moment

[falcon45ca]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

This reads like a "distrust roles" and I'm not a big fan

Thats exactly how one should approach the situation in this game state. We have thread killed exactly zero mafia.

Well, that's about to change. You're welcome





If you're actually town, quit playing the pouty, petulant kid w/ talent and join the team

I am playing the voice of reason actually.

I just don't get why you're ignoring 6 years of meta.




I'm not opposed to skepticism, but Town do have to trust each other sometimes

[Master Radishes]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

Yah, that's what I was thinking and hence I am suspecting Belzy and Porscha. I think falcon's claim is legit though.

The reason I am distrusting of Falcon is because his check saved Radishes who has subsequently not been killed despite being a so called green check and Radishes has been openwolfing today and would be wagoned if not for that.

First I was powerwolfing, now I'm openwolfing. I'm a God tier wolf I guess.

[Creature]

I think it should be 11 v 5 now if there are no 3ps left. Still we should avoid claiming because soup.

Pretty sure falcon's the only claim so far.
So assuming Dizzy's check is still alive they have 2 soup kills at the moment.
it'll be 11 v 4 so they'd have to soup 7 people to win. We're pretty far off from losing to soup right now.

alexa might be wolf which would indicate wolves have another role cop.

Possibly, but if Nutella was her actual check like she implied then they don't have a soup from her.
Of course they could have more, but Dizzy was a 1-shot right?

Well, she might have n1 and n2 checks.

[Porscha]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

No I am trying my best to coordinate the town into opening their fucking eyes.

instructions unclear: my eyes are closed and I am uncoordinated

[Phil and Gloria]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

Remember Tim in last year's GoC?

Not applicable to this situation just reminiscing.

The closest facsimile of a game to this one imo is Spiderverse. It would pay to listen to me here because I wolfed in that game and won doing what I believe is occurring here.

[Justplayingitcool]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

[Creature]

I think TSP was the only wolf among yesterday's top 8

[LinearPoint]

I think it should be 11 v 5 now if there are no 3ps left. Still we should avoid claiming because soup.

Pretty sure falcon's the only claim so far.
So assuming Dizzy's check is still alive they have 2 soup kills at the moment.
it'll be 11 v 4 so they'd have to soup 7 people to win. We're pretty far off from losing to soup right now.

alexa might be wolf which would indicate wolves have another role cop.

Possibly, but if Nutella was her actual check like she implied then they don't have a soup from her.
Of course they could have more, but Dizzy was a 1-shot right?

Well, she might have n1 and n2 checks.

Sorry, was trying to say not sure Mafia would have both a 1-shot Rolecop and an infinate shot Rolecop with N0 results.
Seems a bit of a disparity in power.
Then again guess Town having a 2-shot Parity Cop and an infinate Shot Parity Cop both flipped.

[Phil and Gloria]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

This reads like a "distrust roles" and I'm not a big fan

Thats exactly how one should approach the situation in this game state. We have thread killed exactly zero mafia.

Well, that's about to change. You're welcome





If you're actually town, quit playing the pouty, petulant kid w/ talent and join the team

I am playing the voice of reason actually.

I just don't get why you're ignoring 6 years of meta.




I'm not opposed to skepticism, but Town do have to trust each other sometimes

What meta?

[Belzy]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

Why

[Justplayingitcool]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

Why

Answer my question to you first.

[LinearPoint]

I think TSP was the only wolf among yesterday's top 8

TSP voted up Sabie to be in top 8, but not Wiggly.
So Wiggly might still be Mafia, but this seems like the reasonable assumption TSP might be the only Mafia.

[Master Radishes]

Sabie can still fit as scum imo. Her iso is a big fat nothingburger.

[Porscha]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

early day 2 I felt like tsp was trying to be buddy buddy with mac and mac seemed oblivious. if tsp is wolf I think it makes mac look better unless i'm forgetting some interaction that would prove me wrong

[Phil and Gloria]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

So if you believe Falcon why are you so prone to emphasising bad points about me being mafia every single time someone vocalises one?

[Belzy]

And jpit also scummy.

why

I am not sure, but I need enough names to keep the pressure on.

[alexa]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

[Master Radishes]

Tbf Mac and Dizzy felt somewhat unpartnered.

[LinearPoint]

I think TSP was the only wolf among yesterday's top 8

TSP voted up Sabie to be in top 8, but not Wiggly.
So Wiggly might still be Mafia, but this seems like the reasonable assumption TSP might be the only Mafia.

But then again TSP did vote wiggly in top 4 so probably that Wiggly isn't Mafia.

[Justplayingitcool]

And jpit also scummy.

why

I am not sure, but I need enough names to keep the pressure on.

lol

[Master Radishes]

But if Mac is town he's completely out of sync and with his big personality it risks derailing town solving energy.

[Creature]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

That's what we were talking about. Though, still feels weird they would use their private shot on their wolfmate instead of a strong town.

[Porscha]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

I've felt that way entire game but nobody was on board with it so it made me feel like maybe i'm accidentally focusing on something nobody else sees again

[Belzy]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

Yah, that's what I was thinking and hence I am suspecting Belzy and Porscha. I think falcon's claim is legit though.

All Mac is doing is avoiding town to work with each other and be able to trust each other. A town Mac should help us catching scum, but he rather does the opposite. Calls things bs instead of really investigating.

[Creature]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

That's what we were talking about. Though, still feels weird they would use their private shot on their wolfmate instead of a strong town.

Not sure if dyachei strikes me as a wolf player that would set themselves to go deep.

[Belzy]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

Or dyachei is 3p. I don't believe dyachei is mafia who shots another mafia.

[LinearPoint]

Honestly there may be some merit to Dya being an overconfident Serial Killer with how they played D2 with their town cred for killing a Mafia.

[Justplayingitcool]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

Why

Answer my question to you first.

@Belzy

TSP and Mac both unvoted me before the midday votes, which put TSP up for contention instead of me. TSP threw Mac under the bus by saying "Mac saved me". I think this means it is unlikely they are both mafia and feels unpartnery for that reason