GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Phil and Gloria]

But if Mac is town he's completely out of sync and with his big personality it risks derailing town solving energy.

is this a suggestion I should be killed in spite of being town?

[alexa]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

That's what we were talking about. Though, still feels weird they would use their private shot on their wolfmate instead of a strong town.

yeah.. i don't know. they were a driving force behind the Guillo misyeet and it feels bad but i know dya will get into bad tunnels as town. and it still feels like a complete waste of an extra KP if wolf

[Creature]

Honestly there may be some merit to Dya being an overconfident Serial Killer with how they played D2 with their town cred for killing a Mafia.

I will only bother with unconfirmed third party when all wolves are gone.

[Porscha]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

That's what we were talking about. Though, still feels weird they would use their private shot on their wolfmate instead of a strong town.

there wasn't much of a strong town day 1. why play risky holding until day 2 or day 3 and then having to justify why you shot a townie when you can coast on being "confirmed town" for multiple days with soup kills. if maf already knows marmot is likely getting shot day 1 then why not make a deep wolf "confirmed" townie out of another maf to make up for it? idk seems like the risk / reward is better for maf to team kill marmot if marmot is going down anyway imo

[Phil and Gloria]

I know the intention here is to throw by killing me because I haven't lives up to standards but the reality is if we all take everything being claimed at face value we have already lost. There is no world in which mafia haven't gotten deep and aren't among those who have mechanical claims to being town.

Yah, that's what I was thinking and hence I am suspecting Belzy and Porscha. I think falcon's claim is legit though.

All Mac is doing is avoiding town to work with each other and be able to trust each other. A town Mac should help us catching scum, but he rather does the opposite. Calls things bs instead of really investigating.

I am literally doing b by doing a what the fuck are you talking about?

[Master Radishes]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

[Belzy]

Mac is creating doomsday narratives that don't exist.

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

Why

Answer my question to you first.

@Belzy

TSP and Mac both unvoted me before the midday votes, which put TSP up for contention instead of me. TSP threw Mac under the bus by saying "Mac saved me". I think this means it is unlikely they are both mafia and feels unpartnery for that reason

Okay, fair. If Mac is town or 3p, then what about Sloonei?

[LinearPoint]

Honestly there may be some merit to Dya being an overconfident Serial Killer with how they played D2 with their town cred for killing a Mafia.

I will only bother with unconfirmed third party when all wolves are gone.

Yeah just don't really think a Mafia Dayvig shooting Mafia makes sense in a 7 Mafia team with the amount of other dayvigs and nightvigs running around.

[Creature]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

That's what we were talking about. Though, still feels weird they would use their private shot on their wolfmate instead of a strong town.

yeah.. i don't know. they were a driving force behind the Guillo misyeet and it feels bad but i know dya will get into bad tunnels as town. and it still feels like a complete waste of an extra KP if wolf

Yeah, feels like wolf!dya would just use their shot on strong town and eventually inevitably die rather than shoot a wolf buddy and try to set themselves deep when they aren't that skilled as wolf.

[Justplayingitcool]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

mmm idk

I think I believe dya is still town

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

falcon mvp

This feels a bit pockety.




Or am I being paranoid?

[Porscha]

But if Mac is town he's completely out of sync and with his big personality it risks derailing town solving energy.

is this a suggestion I should be killed in spite of being town?

I don't think it was meant that way but I think the post is either intentionally blunt or just straight wolfy

[Phil and Gloria]

@falcon45ca assuming you are real, are you 100% certain Radishes is town?

[Master Radishes]

But if Mac is town he's completely out of sync and with his big personality it risks derailing town solving energy.

is this a suggestion I should be killed in spite of being town?

No? Just saying we need to avoid your viewpoint because right now it's incorrect.

[Porscha]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

falcon mvp

This feels a bit pockety.




Or am I being paranoid?

jpic under some scrutiny today already, they might be tryna sweeten you up uwu

[Justplayingitcool]

yes

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

Why

Answer my question to you first.

@Belzy

TSP and Mac both unvoted me before the midday votes, which put TSP up for contention instead of me. TSP threw Mac under the bus by saying "Mac saved me". I think this means it is unlikely they are both mafia and feels unpartnery for that reason

Okay, fair. If Mac is town or 3p, then what about Sloonei?

I can still see sloonei being a wolf

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

falcon mvp

This feels a bit pockety.




Or am I being paranoid?

You are paranoid

[alexa]

both TSP and mac can die if i was the mafia shot

if sadie shot me and c4 was mafia shot then lol let me think

[alexa]

both TSP and mac can die if i was the mafia shot

if sadie shot me and c4 was mafia shot then lol let me think

sadie could be mafia vig still, though

[alexa]

Sloonei could be a wolf, yeah

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca assuming you are real, are you 100% certain Radishes is town?

My checks come back as Town/Mafia, so the only way I'd be wrong is if it's a paranoid sheriff/bastard role situation.




We'll know after TSP flips. I think he's town

[Belzy]

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

Why

Answer my question to you first.

@Belzy

TSP and Mac both unvoted me before the midday votes, which put TSP up for contention instead of me. TSP threw Mac under the bus by saying "Mac saved me". I think this means it is unlikely they are both mafia and feels unpartnery for that reason

Okay, fair. If Mac is town or 3p, then what about Sloonei?

I can still see sloonei being a wolf

I can see a world where tsp and sloonei are wolves and you and Mac aren't.

[Phil and Gloria]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

falcon mvp

This feels a bit pockety.




Or am I being paranoid?

it is very cringe

[Master Radishes]

JPIC feels like a watered-down version of last year's GoC JPIC.

I might not shield him at this point exactly, but I'll commit to calling him town out loud where he can rub it in my face if I'm wrong.

[Creature]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

That's what we were talking about. Though, still feels weird they would use their private shot on their wolfmate instead of a strong town.

there wasn't much of a strong town day 1. why play risky holding until day 2 or day 3 and then having to justify why you shot a townie when you can coast on being "confirmed town" for multiple days with soup kills. if maf already knows marmot is likely getting shot day 1 then why not make a deep wolf "confirmed" townie out of another maf to make up for it? idk seems like the risk / reward is better for maf to team kill marmot if marmot is going down anyway imo

"there wasn't much of a strong town day 1."

There was Alison.

"why play risky holding until day 2 or day 3 and then having to justify why you shot a townie"

Just don't claim the shot. No one will know where it came from.

"when you can coast on being "confirmed town" for multiple days with soup kills."

I don't think dyachei lives long enough before being caught in their wolf meta.

"if maf already knows marmot is likely getting shot day 1 then why not make a deep wolf "confirmed" townie out of another maf to make up for it?"

Again, I don't think dya is someone to go deep wolf.

"idk seems like the risk / reward is better for maf to team kill marmot if marmot is going down anyway imo"

Probably, but the shooter needs good WIM and the shot could be used on any townie instead.

[Creature]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

Cool we found the wolf in Seanzie

[Master Radishes]

TSP/Wilgy/Sabie/Sloonei world exists I think?

I want Sloonei to be town but have cooled a bit on my previous reading of that.

[Creature]

There is no world in which you can do anything but town read me that don't out you and you know it. Final warning.

The good thing is that if TSP is mafia, I do not believe you are partnered with him.

Why

Answer my question to you first.

@Belzy

TSP and Mac both unvoted me before the midday votes, which put TSP up for contention instead of me. TSP threw Mac under the bus by saying "Mac saved me". I think this means it is unlikely they are both mafia and feels unpartnery for that reason

Okay, fair. If Mac is town or 3p, then what about Sloonei?

I can still see sloonei being a wolf

Same

[Justplayingitcool]

I'm also going to assume tsp as well. After the EoD that would make sense and I know it's not me

...

I mean from your PoV, it can only be TSP :P

was this a slip

[sabie12]

I'll just be honest here I debated between c4 tsp and jpic for targets. I way overthought it and then convinced myself c4 was the right choice based on interactions with dizzy and shooting bo. I went and read a few previous games and thought it was similar to his mafia play before. I never said how many shots I have. I just said I was the town vig shot on ender. I'm glad falcon caught tsp. [VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[Creature]

@falcon45ca assuming you are real, are you 100% certain Radishes is town?

My checks come back as Town/Mafia, so the only way I'd be wrong is if it's a paranoid sheriff/bastard role situation.




We'll know after TSP flips. I think he's town

???

[Creature]

Also you can't be paranoid sheriff if you peeked Radishes green

[Porscha]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

That's what we were talking about. Though, still feels weird they would use their private shot on their wolfmate instead of a strong town.

there wasn't much of a strong town day 1. why play risky holding until day 2 or day 3 and then having to justify why you shot a townie when you can coast on being "confirmed town" for multiple days with soup kills. if maf already knows marmot is likely getting shot day 1 then why not make a deep wolf "confirmed" townie out of another maf to make up for it? idk seems like the risk / reward is better for maf to team kill marmot if marmot is going down anyway imo

"there wasn't much of a strong town day 1."

There was Alison.

"why play risky holding until day 2 or day 3 and then having to justify why you shot a townie"

Just don't claim the shot. No one will know where it came from.

"when you can coast on being "confirmed town" for multiple days with soup kills."

I don't think dyachei lives long enough before being caught in their wolf meta.

"if maf already knows marmot is likely getting shot day 1 then why not make a deep wolf "confirmed" townie out of another maf to make up for it?"

Again, I don't think dya is someone to go deep wolf.

"idk seems like the risk / reward is better for maf to team kill marmot if marmot is going down anyway imo"

Probably, but the shooter needs good WIM and the shot could be used on any townie instead.

yeah there was allison but that's 1 out of what - 32 players? and she still gets shot? lmao. lol. hehe.

also you would intentionally claim the kill b/c if you are maf or 3rd party killer then you want everybody to know it was you. that's the whole point of killing someone on your side - to advertise you are good townie

also still doesnt explain that marmot was being read as a likely shot from c4 so why would a townie bother stealing that shot away without saying a word about it

[Master Radishes]

TSP/Wilgy/Sabie/Sloonei world exists I think?

I want Sloonei to be town but have cooled a bit on my previous reading of that.

This is what I came into today with, plus Mac and Paopan.

[Phil and Gloria]

Sloonei would need to have summoned his 2016 self suddenly to be a wolf here.

[Justplayingitcool]

JPIC feels like a watered-down version of last year's GoC JPIC.

I might not shield him at this point exactly, but I'll commit to calling him town out loud where he can rub it in my face if I'm wrong.

I'm more of a champs semi jpic than a GOC jpic

[Creature]

I'm also going to assume tsp as well. After the EoD that would make sense and I know it's not me

...

I mean from your PoV, it can only be TSP :P

was this a slip

No?

[Master Radishes]

JPIC feels like a watered-down version of last year's GoC JPIC.

I might not shield him at this point exactly, but I'll commit to calling him town out loud where he can rub it in my face if I'm wrong.

I'm more of a champs semi jpic than a GOC jpic

I can get on board with that.

[Porscha]

I'll just be honest here I debated between c4 tsp and jpic for targets. I way overthought it and then convinced myself c4 was the right choice based on interactions with dizzy and shooting bo. I went and read a few previous games and thought it was similar to his mafia play before. I never said how many shots I have. I just said I was the town vig shot on ender. I'm glad falcon caught tsp. [VOTE: tsp] aubergine

alexa put on your thinking hat, maf came 4 u

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca assuming you are real, are you 100% certain Radishes is town?

My checks come back as Town/Mafia, so the only way I'd be wrong is if it's a paranoid sheriff/bastard role situation.




We'll know after TSP flips. I think he's town

???

I'm as close as 100% on MR as you can be w/o actually seeing his flip.



He's Town. TSP is Maf

[Phil and Gloria]

hey guys I'm here to to super town the game

ive been making mac carry me for too long now because of irl things so here's to a fresh start yeah?

Hi Mac

no it's me sprit

[Paopan]

Yelp. Still alive.

Btw. We could've have a 50-50 between Guillo and TSP but someone freakin unvoted TSP!

[TonyStarkPrime]

i will now be setting a post count record

[Master Radishes]

Yeah, so Mafia went for Alexa it seems.


Yet another confirmed (not that I was thinking otherwise on alexa, but paranoia is always a thing).

[Master Radishes]

Yelp. Still alive.

Btw. We could've have a 50-50 between Guillo and TSP but someone freakin unvoted TSP!

Intriguing.

[Creature]

could dya be scum who shot marmot because they were scared c4 would shoot there anyway?

That's what we were talking about. Though, still feels weird they would use their private shot on their wolfmate instead of a strong town.

there wasn't much of a strong town day 1. why play risky holding until day 2 or day 3 and then having to justify why you shot a townie when you can coast on being "confirmed town" for multiple days with soup kills. if maf already knows marmot is likely getting shot day 1 then why not make a deep wolf "confirmed" townie out of another maf to make up for it? idk seems like the risk / reward is better for maf to team kill marmot if marmot is going down anyway imo

"there wasn't much of a strong town day 1."

There was Alison.

"why play risky holding until day 2 or day 3 and then having to justify why you shot a townie"

Just don't claim the shot. No one will know where it came from.

"when you can coast on being "confirmed town" for multiple days with soup kills."

I don't think dyachei lives long enough before being caught in their wolf meta.

"if maf already knows marmot is likely getting shot day 1 then why not make a deep wolf "confirmed" townie out of another maf to make up for it?"

Again, I don't think dya is someone to go deep wolf.

"idk seems like the risk / reward is better for maf to team kill marmot if marmot is going down anyway imo"

Probably, but the shooter needs good WIM and the shot could be used on any townie instead.

yeah there was allison but that's 1 out of what - 32 players? and she still gets shot? lmao. lol. hehe.

also you would intentionally claim the kill b/c if you are maf or 3rd party killer then you want everybody to know it was you. that's the whole point of killing someone on your side - to advertise you are good townie

also still doesnt explain that marmot was being read as a likely shot from c4 so why would a townie bother stealing that shot away without saying a word about it

They couldn't predict Alison was going to get shot for stupid reasons at the time. Also, besides Alison, there definitely had some names that wolves could fear if town like alexa and Mac or even Sloonei.

You don't need to intentionally claim the kill if you use it on town. It's a private dayvig so wolves could use it anywhere without being caught.

I don't think the third paragraph is really indicative of anything.

[TonyStarkPrime]

twas brillig and the slithy toves

[alexa]

I'll just be honest here I debated between c4 tsp and jpic for targets. I way overthought it and then convinced myself c4 was the right choice based on interactions with dizzy and shooting bo. I went and read a few previous games and thought it was similar to his mafia play before. I never said how many shots I have. I just said I was the town vig shot on ender. I'm glad falcon caught tsp. [VOTE: tsp] aubergine

alexa put on your thinking hat, maf came 4 u

okay

that makes more sense lmao

i'll be around in ~30 minutes. apologies for yesterday but i'm going to do my best to solve the game today

technically falcon could be a wolf but i'd already come to TSP maf overnight so i trust him/i feel he sounds legit

[TonyStarkPrime]

did gyre and gimble in the wabe

[TonyStarkPrime]

also I'm town