GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Phil and Gloria]

[VOTE: tsp ] aubergine before i forget

[Porscha]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

So 5 unconfirmed on the top 2 wagons with the top 6 flipping Green (minus Wiggly)
Either all wagons were wrong and Mafia decided to just not care who they voted or that means one of Wiggly or Porscha are Mafia.
Right now, Neeko is leaning a bit more on the possibility that none of those wagons were Mafia.


Working under the above assumption:
Working Mafia team may be: TSP, Mac, Paopan, Porscha, and 1 of Alexa/belzy.
Paopan did a lot of vote switting end of day and drove the wagon off TSP who was 4th highest at the time onto Wiggly so Paopan and Wiggly are never Mafia togther and it looks like Paopan is scummier than Wiggly.
Mac's been shieldng TSP hard so obviously Mac.
Porscha since neeko's had suspicions on them ever since Neeko's initial scum read was so easily dismissed and the wagon on Porscha day 1 vanished instantly.
Belzy has been defending Porscha a lot with no real reason that Neeko has seen, so if one is Mafia both are Mafia.
Alexa was trying to push NAA wagon EoD. So was ilario but ilario shot Mafia.

Still having trouble really reading Sloonei and Creature, but both felt town from yesterday.
JPIC is also a null read still as Neeko hasn't felt strongly Town or Mafia on them all game. If neeko is wrong about one of the above them this might be the last Mafia.

okay well idk why there is dichotomy between me and wilgy from wagon voting when eod 1 I was not being wagon'd at all and you were still the only vote on me. even c4 didnt bother putting vote on me and you were entirely riding off his read of me
also it's been made clear that the reason belzy is clearing me is due to mech. understandable to read us as a potential pair but idk why you're assuming it's automatically wolfy. I guess you're doing that b/c you are *still* trying to make a push on me based on c4's push on me day1 just because I came into thread late and apologized 1 too many times for not being caught up. maybe it was easily dismissed b/c it isn't a strong read on me that proves anything about me being wolfy. I think you are gut reading me incorrectly or you are one of the possible wolves who will come for me via day lynch as I said they would. I bet you'd really like to know my role so you could nk me - like your push suggests - but you don't so you will try to day lynch me instead. I am an amateur forum mafia player, participating in a huge game where I have not played with a majority of the players here, I am feeling nervous in my reads and that the thread moves a million miles an hour is difficult as well. I think you - all of us - should spend more time evaluating one of the 5 vigi claims since that's obviously has wolf in it. unless you are a wolf of course - then you would have no interest in evaluating that situation :^)

You've not had good posts and seem to just be riding on Belzy softing they had a green peak on you D1 and acting like it is true even though Belzy never commited to saying so just saying that they know you're Town. You've been slanking, you've not bee helping Town, and the more time that passes the less believable Belzy is with you being lock Town. Neeko made her own post on why she thought you were scum from your D1 posts an dyou're ignoring it completely and trying to dismiss it as just going off of c4's reads. You have yet to make one singular post that makes me think you are Town. Belzy's mech clear be damned it was probably made up anyways and you're just assuming that was even belzy's inention (assuming Belzy and you are not both Mafia). Neeko has also made numerous posts about her opinion on the vigilante claims and does believe WCS one of Dya and Ilario are a 3p and Sabie is pretty much guaranteed to be Town Vigilante. You're also disregarding that one of the 5 claims has already flipped wolf and hte other 2 vigilante claims have shot mafia or is Sabie who Neeko explicitly doesn't see as Mafia.

I guess from your point of view I sort of see where you are coming from with the belzy read. but if we are mafia then why would belzy only clear me based on mech claim, and literally nobody else? do you think we are a pair of mafia making ourselves very noticeable while the other 3 remaining mafia don't say a word about it? like do you think that comes from wolf play to save a noob mafia or town play trying to avoid soup or 3p with win condition on each other? like which do you think is likely in this scenario is what I'm asking.
also yeah sorry I dont recall your specific issues with me other than a bad day 1 entrance and it's fair for you to say you dont feel my posts are townie but if they also aren't reading as mafia then idk why you're gunning after me so hard when there is more contentious issues (imo) at hand. I'd understand if you sus'd me because I dont feel strong town but there's been some pretty wolfy stuff going on outside of me so it seems like misplaced focus imo.
also yeah I still consider one of teh vigi claims who shot marmot possible mafia so b/c of that, dya isnt out of the possible mafia pool imo

[Phil and Gloria]

You may have gotten away in normal game but you're not winning this time

[Creature]

who was the other winner?

Guess another wolf

or someone AFK

We can hope. If that's the case, they must immediately use their shot on TSP.

[ilario]

Do I get towncred when tsp flips mafia captain like I said he was

[Creature]

oh yeah sabie shot c4, is that right?

Yep, sabie claimed the shot

[Justplayingitcool]

Do I get towncred when tsp flips mafia captain like I said he was

Clearly we would accuse you of tmi

[alexa]

who was the other winner?

Guess another wolf

or someone AFK

We can hope. If that's the case, they must immediately use their shot on TSP.

or TSP is trolling and the prize isn't a day vig or he didn't win

if he won a day vig idk why he doesn't use it immediately considering he could get shot

[Creature]

Someone better do page reminders for whoever won the other prize to use it on TSP before claiming it.

[ilario]

I’m assuming sabie claims rb from yesterday ?

[Creature]

Someone better do page reminders for whoever won the other prize to use it on TSP before claiming it.

Still, real chance wolves got both prizes.

[Phil and Gloria]

Do I get towncred when tsp flips mafia captain like I said he was

i can give you a hug

[LinearPoint]

Maybe Creature and or LP as wolf.

Interesting timing you have.

Am I correct?

Well your non-commitle nature and neeko's lack of a check on Creature leaves this question unanswerable.
But Neeko did just make a post on Porscha and you being Mafia, so interesting timing to say Neeko is scum without addressing it.

[Creature]

I’m assuming sabie claims rb from yesterday ?

No, sabie claimed the shot on c4.

[alexa]

I’m assuming sabie claims rb from yesterday ?

no. sabie shot c4. my vest got popped

[ilario]

Do I get towncred when tsp flips mafia captain like I said he was

i can give you a hug

That’s better than towncred tbh

[Justplayingitcool]

I’m assuming sabie claims rb from yesterday ?

Sabie shot c4

[ilario]

Lmao let’s just kill sabie i cbf with tbag slot

[Creature]

I’m assuming sabie claims rb from yesterday ?

no. sabie shot c4. my vest got popped

You were warned about that?

[Belzy]

Sabie more likely a mafia or 3p vig than a town vig.

[Porscha]

Maybe Creature and or LP as wolf.

Interesting timing you have.

Am I correct?

no LP made that snarky comment b/c they are busy tunneling me and therefore by extension also tunneling you atm

who was the other winner?

Guess another wolf

or someone AFK

Or someone who doesnt want to say yet

[alexa]

I’m assuming sabie claims rb from yesterday ?

no. sabie shot c4. my vest got popped

You were warned about that?

yes

[TonyStarkPrime]

I know noble accents
And lucid, inescapable rhythms;
But I know, too,
That the blackbird is involved
In what I know.

[Creature]

Lmao let’s just kill sabie i cbf with tbag slot

I think she's townsiding in her vig shots so far

[ilario]

Why can’t they just be a mafia doing faction kills that’s acting like a night vig? One bad shot is excusable two is too far

[Sloonei]

I thought our poems were gonna be public so I submitted something goofy.

[Justplayingitcool]

If sabie is town, mafia were confident that they weren’t going to be killed that night

[ilario]

Alexa can u out how ur role works

If u were shot that means mafia are gonna kill u tonight anyways

[TonyStarkPrime]

I know noble accents
And lucid, inescapable rhythms;
But I know, too,
That the blackbird is involved
In what I know.

This is maybe my favorite stanza of poetry of like all of the poetry fwiw

[alexa]

Lmao let’s just kill sabie i cbf with tbag slot

I think she's townsiding in her vig shots so far

i townread both the people she shot but she is shooting like... "POE" villagers who have sus on them, but a lot of the sus is probably from wolves
so idk, debatable

[ilario]

Who did paopan protect

[Creature]

Why can’t they just be a mafia doing faction kills that’s acting like a night vig? One bad shot is excusable two is too far

They aren't really bad shots. Ender was widely suspected EOD1 and c4 was like among the top 8 lynch options.

tbh only sig qualified for making bad shots on obvtown.

[Belzy]

Tsp sabie Sloonei all good kills?

[Belzy]

And Lp also?

[Phil and Gloria]

I thought our poems were gonna be public so I submitted something goofy.

sloon if it were public voting, i wouldve voted for yours

[alexa]

Alexa can u out how ur role works

If u were shot that means mafia are gonna kill u tonight anyways

what's the point of outing that RN though?

i don't have any other info right now

[Creature]

Who did paopan protect

I think that doesn't matter much considering alexa is claiming to have survived the kill attempt.

[TonyStarkPrime]

When the blackbird flew out of sight,
It marked the edge
Of one of many circles.

[ilario]

Why can’t they just be a mafia doing faction kills that’s acting like a night vig? One bad shot is excusable two is too far

They aren't really bad shots. Ender was widely suspected EOD1 and c4 was like among the top 8 lynch options.

tbh only sig qualified for making bad shots on obvtown.

Ig we’ll just agree to disagree

Lp is town btw

[ilario]

Who did paopan protect

I think that doesn't matter much considering alexa is claiming to have survived the kill attempt.

I still wanna know so I can understand what is going through paopans mind

[Porscha]

Who did paopan protect

I think that doesn't matter much considering alexa is claiming to have survived the kill attempt.

I always want to know who doctor is protecting b/c seeing their targets is a great way to see past their words

[ilario]

Alexa can u out how ur role works

If u were shot that means mafia are gonna kill u tonight anyways

what's the point of outing that RN though?

i don't have any other info right now

Because the more info the better, some stuff about ur role confused me and I can’t find u if I think ur hiding info

[ilario]

Find u as town*

[alexa]

claiming in full just 100% guarantees i get souped and is pointless af right now, and i say that as someone who claims too early a lot.

[ilario]

And ur very much a candidate of who tsp would pick and u spent all of yesterday fossing him but changed ur vote to 112 eod

Like maybe I’m tunneled and u can say I’m pushing u for nebulous reasons but i think I bring up valid points

[TonyStarkPrime]

At the sight of blackbirds
Flying in a green light,
Even the bawds of euphony
Would cry out sharply.

[Phil and Gloria]

Alexa can u out how ur role works

If u were shot that means mafia are gonna kill u tonight anyways

what's the point of outing that RN though?

i don't have any other info right now

Because the more info the better, some stuff about ur role confused me and I can’t find u if I think ur hiding info

ilario im sorry to remind you that soup kills exist and even hinting might get someone killed

[Phil and Gloria]

i mean nanook posted the update right at daystart right?

[ilario]

If mafia actually targeted u for the NK tonight what makes u think ur gonna survive until soup anyways?

[alexa]

Alexa can u out how ur role works

If u were shot that means mafia are gonna kill u tonight anyways

what's the point of outing that RN though?

i don't have any other info right now

Because the more info the better, some stuff about ur role confused me and I can’t find u if I think ur hiding info

there is a very very very good reason for me not to claim right now.

you can find me on account of i was shot by wolves.