GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[alexa]

Alexa is powerwolfing rn

why do you say this?

also lol literally every time someone has said this i've been a villager. there are very few actual power wolves out there and i am not one of them

I was right about you being wolf in Halloween mash 2

did you say i was a "power wolf"

i mean specifically i feel like when people say i'm a power wolf i'm always a villager

but also multiball wolfing i play more similarly to my V game so it's different

[Creature]

Phil and Gloria is not my top suspect for wolf rn. I'm going for one wolf at a time. First TSP then DrWilgy/Sloonei then we'll figure.

[ilario]

ilario, if TSP is a wolf, why doesn't w!Mac not just bus the fuck out of TSP?

he has a hellbus meta as of recent times so it would make sense to change it up to throw people off

technically but i feel like he is like schweppes where he just can't help himself from bussing

Possible. So then, who are the wolves lol?

[Phil and Gloria]

alexa you powerwolfed in the last game I played with you with spf

[Creature]

Alexa is powerwolfing rn

why do you say this?

also lol literally every time someone has said this i've been a villager. there are very few actual power wolves out there and i am not one of them

I was right about you being wolf in Halloween mash 2

did you say i was a "power wolf"

i mean specifically i feel like when people say i'm a power wolf i'm always a villager

but also multiball wolfing i play more similarly to my V game so it's different

Oh right, I didn't say you were powerwolf there. I just felt something off from you and expressed that at the last minute of the day before you died.

[alexa]

ilario, if TSP is a wolf, why doesn't w!Mac not just bus the fuck out of TSP?

he has a hellbus meta as of recent times so it would make sense to change it up to throw people off

technically but i feel like he is like schweppes where he just can't help himself from bussing

Possible. So then, who are the wolves lol?

probs TSP, 2 in my POE, and 1 i am locking as town

[alexa]

alexa you powerwolfed in the last game I played with you with spf

not really

i bussed day 1 then consistently distanced from spf

[Creature]

I suppose this day (and possibly the next few) is going to be very boring as we have a very tight POE with a few misclears and then we'll keep pushing each other just because of lack of options.

[alexa]

and i just killed a bunch of people sus of me each night

[Creature]

It's gonna suck if sabie is wolf because I've been defending her so much. In my defense, I didn't want to risk lynching a fucking full town vig.

[alexa]

ilario, if TSP is a wolf, why doesn't w!Mac not just bus the fuck out of TSP?

he has a hellbus meta as of recent times so it would make sense to change it up to throw people off

technically but i feel like he is like schweppes where he just can't help himself from bussing

Possible. So then, who are the wolves lol?

probs TSP, 2 in my POE, and 1 i am locking as town

the other one is prob someone i have in the middle

not in my POE but not locked as town

just based on history

[alexa]

It's gonna suck if sabie is wolf because I've been defending her so much. In my defense, I didn't want to risk lynching a fucking full town vig.

i don't think you are a wolf regardless

[Creature]

I believe EnderWiggin and c4e5g3d5 were reasonable vig shots, but maybe I should establish a threshold instead of just letting sabie12 get away with only killing town.

[Creature]

Also I'm gonna be frustrated if DrWilgy happens to be wolf because I literally saved them from lynch D1 and D2.

[ilario]

ilario, if TSP is a wolf, why doesn't w!Mac not just bus the fuck out of TSP?

he has a hellbus meta as of recent times so it would make sense to change it up to throw people off

technically but i feel like he is like schweppes where he just can't help himself from bussing

Possible. So then, who are the wolves lol?

probs TSP, 2 in my POE, and 1 i am locking as town

the other one is prob someone i have in the middle

not in my POE but not locked as town

just based on history

Let’s say I can give u 3 bullets to kill 3 people not named tsp right now, which 3 names do u shoot to give town the best chance of solving the game and why

[Phil and Gloria]

this is theater

[alexa]

ilario, if TSP is a wolf, why doesn't w!Mac not just bus the fuck out of TSP?

he has a hellbus meta as of recent times so it would make sense to change it up to throw people off

technically but i feel like he is like schweppes where he just can't help himself from bussing

Possible. So then, who are the wolves lol?

probs TSP, 2 in my POE, and 1 i am locking as town

the other one is prob someone i have in the middle

not in my POE but not locked as town

just based on history

Let’s say I can give u 3 bullets to kill 3 people not named tsp right now, which 3 names do u shoot to give town the best chance of solving the game and why

sabie12 because I don't think it's possible wolves have no extra KP, and they've said some pingy things

Mac because the POE of 4 he just outed is 4 obvious villagers imo and feels like he's just realized he needs to openwolf

tbh, Sloonei because lol, even though i townread them yesterday if the theory of picking people is actually correct, i feel they are very likely to be picked and obviously my reads have not been spot on, just feel like GTH they are a hit over other people in my POE

you?

[Sloonei]

Have any of y’all ever sat in an empty restaurant during a snow storm while the Black Eyed Peas are playing on the radio?

[falcon45ca]

Have any of y’all ever sat in an empty restaurant during a snow storm while the Black Eyed Peas are playing on the radio?

Sounds like the opening scene of a horror movie

[Sloonei]

Have any of y’all ever sat in an empty restaurant during a snow storm while the Black Eyed Peas are playing on the radio?

Sounds like the opening scene of a horror movie

Nah. I have it on good authority that tonight’s gonna be a good night.

[alexa]

im actually p damn sure mac tried to night kill me, missed, and is trolling now

[falcon45ca]

Have any of y’all ever sat in an empty restaurant during a snow storm while the Black Eyed Peas are playing on the radio?

Sounds like the opening scene of a horror movie

Nah. I have it on good authority that tonight’s gonna be a good night.

Foreshadowing thru irony

[Phil and Gloria]

im actually p damn sure mac tried to night kill me, missed, and is trolling now

no you aren't

[alexa]

linearpoint also goes in that world hand in glove

Pretty sure LinearPoint did something...

Linearpoint, Creature, Ilario, Alexa

This is my solve.

React

like lol

i really just don't think v!Mac is this bad

and he does bus as wolf which is why i'm saying he's just fucking antispewing

[Phil and Gloria]

Why would I shoot you? that's dumb as fuck.

[Phil and Gloria]

linearpoint also goes in that world hand in glove

Pretty sure LinearPoint did something...

Linearpoint, Creature, Ilario, Alexa

This is my solve.

React

like lol

i really just don't think v!Mac is this bad

and he does bus as wolf which is why i'm saying he's just fucking antispewing

things wolves always say about me for 500 alexa

[alexa]

Why would I shoot you? that's dumb as fuck.

why? i called you a wolf yesterday? you've shot me our last games as soon as i was sus of you because i thought you said you had a lot of respect for my village game?

[alexa]

Why would I shoot you? that's dumb as fuck.

this is literally such a WTF comment are you just a wolf?

[Phil and Gloria]

I took you to f4 the last time I wolfed against you. I have bigger concerns than you in this game.

[Creature]

Still secretly wishing one town got the poetry prize and it was a dayvig. Though, TSP not using their dayvig feels a lot likely both wolves got them unless TSP is trolling.

[Phil and Gloria]

Having a lot of respect for your villager game and me not considering you a personal prio kill are not the same. I would kill a green check or vig with a pelt over you because it's mechanically correct to do so.

[alexa]

I took you to f4 the last time I wolfed against you. I have bigger concerns than you in this game.

you killed me before f3 and said "obviously i wouldn't let you live until f3 im not crazy" and you wished you killed me n1 in squid games mash, idk why v you would be acting like i'd be a ridiculous night kill target and like you wouldn't be scared of my villa game at all?

[alexa]

Having a lot of respect for your villager game and me not considering you a personal prio kill are not the same. I would kill a green check or vig with a pelt over you because it's mechanically correct to do so.

i claimed a PR which is equally scary

[Porscha]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

So 5 unconfirmed on the top 2 wagons with the top 6 flipping Green (minus Wiggly)
Either all wagons were wrong and Mafia decided to just not care who they voted or that means one of Wiggly or Porscha are Mafia.
Right now, Neeko is leaning a bit more on the possibility that none of those wagons were Mafia.


Working under the above assumption:
Working Mafia team may be: TSP, Mac, Paopan, Porscha, and 1 of Alexa/belzy.
Paopan did a lot of vote switting end of day and drove the wagon off TSP who was 4th highest at the time onto Wiggly so Paopan and Wiggly are never Mafia togther and it looks like Paopan is scummier than Wiggly.
Mac's been shieldng TSP hard so obviously Mac.
Porscha since neeko's had suspicions on them ever since Neeko's initial scum read was so easily dismissed and the wagon on Porscha day 1 vanished instantly.
Belzy has been defending Porscha a lot with no real reason that Neeko has seen, so if one is Mafia both are Mafia.
Alexa was trying to push NAA wagon EoD. So was ilario but ilario shot Mafia.

Still having trouble really reading Sloonei and Creature, but both felt town from yesterday.
JPIC is also a null read still as Neeko hasn't felt strongly Town or Mafia on them all game. If neeko is wrong about one of the above them this might be the last Mafia.

okay well idk why there is dichotomy between me and wilgy from wagon voting when eod 1 I was not being wagon'd at all and you were still the only vote on me. even c4 didnt bother putting vote on me and you were entirely riding off his read of me
also it's been made clear that the reason belzy is clearing me is due to mech. understandable to read us as a potential pair but idk why you're assuming it's automatically wolfy. I guess you're doing that b/c you are *still* trying to make a push on me based on c4's push on me day1 just because I came into thread late and apologized 1 too many times for not being caught up. maybe it was easily dismissed b/c it isn't a strong read on me that proves anything about me being wolfy. I think you are gut reading me incorrectly or you are one of the possible wolves who will come for me via day lynch as I said they would. I bet you'd really like to know my role so you could nk me - like your push suggests - but you don't so you will try to day lynch me instead. I am an amateur forum mafia player, participating in a huge game where I have not played with a majority of the players here, I am feeling nervous in my reads and that the thread moves a million miles an hour is difficult as well. I think you - all of us - should spend more time evaluating one of the 5 vigi claims since that's obviously has wolf in it. unless you are a wolf of course - then you would have no interest in evaluating that situation :^)

You've not had good posts and seem to just be riding on Belzy softing they had a green peak on you D1 and acting like it is true even though Belzy never commited to saying so just saying that they know you're Town. You've been slanking, you've not bee helping Town, and the more time that passes the less believable Belzy is with you being lock Town. Neeko made her own post on why she thought you were scum from your D1 posts an dyou're ignoring it completely and trying to dismiss it as just going off of c4's reads. You have yet to make one singular post that makes me think you are Town. Belzy's mech clear be damned it was probably made up anyways and you're just assuming that was even belzy's inention (assuming Belzy and you are not both Mafia). Neeko has also made numerous posts about her opinion on the vigilante claims and does believe WCS one of Dya and Ilario are a 3p and Sabie is pretty much guaranteed to be Town Vigilante. You're also disregarding that one of the 5 claims has already flipped wolf and hte other 2 vigilante claims have shot mafia or is Sabie who Neeko explicitly doesn't see as Mafia.

I guess from your point of view I sort of see where you are coming from with the belzy read. but if we are mafia then why would belzy only clear me based on mech claim, and literally nobody else? do you think we are a pair of mafia making ourselves very noticeable while the other 3 remaining mafia don't say a word about it? like do you think that comes from wolf play to save a noob mafia or town play trying to avoid soup or 3p with win condition on each other? like which do you think is likely in this scenario is what I'm asking.
also yeah sorry I dont recall your specific issues with me other than a bad day 1 entrance and it's fair for you to say you dont feel my posts are townie but if they also aren't reading as mafia then idk why you're gunning after me so hard when there is more contentious issues (imo) at hand. I'd understand if you sus'd me because I dont feel strong town but there's been some pretty wolfy stuff going on outside of me so it seems like misplaced focus imo.
also yeah I still consider one of teh vigi claims who shot marmot possible mafia so b/c of that, dya isnt out of the possible mafia pool imo

Well neeko has a theory on what Belzy is trying to hint at their role being and it would make sense if Neeko's theory is correct. Neeko doesn't want to give details since soup, but Neeko has a theory that in her head does work for a claim hint. You do have a somewhat fair point that no one else is commenting on it, but if Mafia got away with faking a green check on another then it'd make sense the Mafia don't acknowledge it or push it. Also Belzy could still have faked a green on you to see your reaction in which case if you were Mafia with a Town or 3p Faking a green check on you the read of the Mafia would absolutely not try to push that it's fake. The main issue with your posts has been a combination of the bad entry and not doing anything else really. You appear to just be coasting off Belzy really and that is what makes me think you are scum.

That's fair and all I can say about my contributions/ reads is that: I am an amateur forum mafia player, participating in a huge game where I have not played with a majority of the players here, I am feeling nervous in my reads and that the thread moves a million miles an hour is difficult as well.
As it starts narrowing down I will probably have stronger opinions but I struggle to work on a game starting with over 30 people who are far more experienced than myself at this kind of mafia. my reads may or may not be wrong but I won't be able to articulate them as well as some other players no matter what, and I won't be as good at clearing myself either.

[Phil and Gloria]

Obviously I'm not saying I would never kill you and I'm not saying you are a potato Alexa. You're twisting my words in bad faith right now.

[Phil and Gloria]

Having a lot of respect for your villager game and me not considering you a personal prio kill are not the same. I would kill a green check or vig with a pelt over you because it's mechanically correct to do so.

i claimed a PR which is equally scary

I have no recollection of this but everyone is a PR are they not? Well except poor 112.

[alexa]

Why would I shoot you? that's dumb as fuck.

you literally said "that's dumb as fuck"

[Phil and Gloria]

@Porscha we are all amateurs by definition lol.

[alexa]

Having a lot of respect for your villager game and me not considering you a personal prio kill are not the same. I would kill a green check or vig with a pelt over you because it's mechanically correct to do so.

i claimed a PR which is equally scary

I have no recollection of this but everyone is a PR are they not? Well except poor 112.

i claimed a PR that would've been threatening to the scum team.

[Phil and Gloria]

Why would I shoot you? that's dumb as fuck.

you literally said "that's dumb as fuck"

It is dumb as fuck to think I would kill you n2 over mechanical clears who are even more determined to chop me. Radishes is my kill 100% of the time if I am mafia here.

[alexa]

if i had a day vig i would shoot mac right now btw even over tsp

[Phil and Gloria]

Having a lot of respect for your villager game and me not considering you a personal prio kill are not the same. I would kill a green check or vig with a pelt over you because it's mechanically correct to do so.

i claimed a PR which is equally scary

I have no recollection of this but everyone is a PR are they not? Well except poor 112.

i claimed a PR that would've been threatening to the scum team.

I have no idea what PR you have claimed.

[alexa]

Mac
TSP
Dizzy
Marmot



yeah this scum team probably got fucking chosen

[Phil and Gloria]

if i had a day vig i would shoot mac right now btw even over tsp

Then you should apply for a guide dog cuz u iz blind sis.

[alexa]

why did alison mention she would choose belzy, is belzy known as good at scum?

[Phil and Gloria]

Mac
TSP
Dizzy
Marmot



yeah this scum team probably got fucking chosen

Also I'm spewed clear by Dizzy and Marmot interactions. Also TSP probably if you bother checking.

This experience is like getting your ass pubes caught in the toilet seat.

[ilario]

he has a hellbus meta as of recent times so it would make sense to change it up to throw people off

technically but i feel like he is like schweppes where he just can't help himself from bussing

Possible. So then, who are the wolves lol?

probs TSP, 2 in my POE, and 1 i am locking as town

the other one is prob someone i have in the middle

not in my POE but not locked as town

just based on history

Let’s say I can give u 3 bullets to kill 3 people not named tsp right now, which 3 names do u shoot to give town the best chance of solving the game and why

sabie12 because I don't think it's possible wolves have no extra KP, and they've said some pingy things

Mac because the POE of 4 he just outed is 4 obvious villagers imo and feels like he's just realized he needs to openwolf

tbh, Sloonei because lol, even though i townread them yesterday if the theory of picking people is actually correct, i feel they are very likely to be picked and obviously my reads have not been spot on, just feel like GTH they are a hit over other people in my POE

you?

Agree with first two names I kinda wanna resolve both asap

Unsure on the last name tbh

[Creature]

If we're talking about nightkills as if they mean something, then I would have never killed Urist N1 (save a rolecop check maybe).

[Creature]

technically but i feel like he is like schweppes where he just can't help himself from bussing

Possible. So then, who are the wolves lol?

probs TSP, 2 in my POE, and 1 i am locking as town

the other one is prob someone i have in the middle

not in my POE but not locked as town

just based on history

Let’s say I can give u 3 bullets to kill 3 people not named tsp right now, which 3 names do u shoot to give town the best chance of solving the game and why

sabie12 because I don't think it's possible wolves have no extra KP, and they've said some pingy things

Mac because the POE of 4 he just outed is 4 obvious villagers imo and feels like he's just realized he needs to openwolf

tbh, Sloonei because lol, even though i townread them yesterday if the theory of picking people is actually correct, i feel they are very likely to be picked and obviously my reads have not been spot on, just feel like GTH they are a hit over other people in my POE

you?

Agree with first two names I kinda wanna resolve both asap

Unsure on the last name tbh

I would resolve DrWilgy and Sloonei. Then I don't know what I would want to do with the third shot.

[ilario]

Read through Alexa’s iso and I feel like an idiot now lol