GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[alexa]

if a town healer exists pls help me

[Creature]

Paopan
sabie12
Creature
Justplayingitcool
DrWilgy
Phil and Gloria
Sloonei

This is our commonly agreed POE. If it is right we should have four wolves here. If someone outside picks one name, 4/7 chance to get it right. If sabie12 is town, from her perspective it will be 4/6 chance to get it right.

If the POE is wrong, we're likely losing anyway whether we vig tonight or not. But if the POE is right, we need to get rid of these names to stand a chance of winning.

[alexa]

ok me/sabie/belzy killed mac with our event prize vig



also omg can anyone heal me .-.

3 people got vig and all shot the same person?

I imagine it was one vig and they all had to decide who to shoot

yeah this


it was from walrus, still don't know the prize from poem

[Creature]

sabie12 is likely town

I think JPIC is town

So that leaves Paopan/DrWilgy/Sloonei

[LinearPoint]

So with alexa dead at the end of the day that leaves the following alive for the lynch.

Belzy
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
falcon45ca
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Paopan
Porscha
sabie12
Sloonei

Porscha, Falcon, and Belzy are confirmed Town

So 3 mafia in here sine Alexa is pretty much guaranteed Town.
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
Sloonei

[Creature]

sabie12 is likely town

I think JPIC is town

So that leaves Paopan/DrWilgy/Sloonei

This team feels wrong though

I feel like mafia captain picked the players and I only see Sloonei being picked here

[alexa]

there is 3 wolves + at least 1 SUPER THIRD PARTY left. because i just realized that if a faction is eliminated, it's announced. ergo, SUPER THIRD PARTY still exists

[LinearPoint]

Pretty sure it's going to end up being Paopan, JPIC, and Wiggly.
Sabie doesn't seem like they are going to be Mafia.
ilario or dya may flip scum just because another dayvig flipped Town, but are low priority.
sloonie or Creature also might, but just don't seem more likely than the above 3.

[Creature]

there is 3 wolves + at least 1 SUPER THIRD PARTY left. because i just realized that if a faction is eliminated, it's announced. ergo, SUPER THIRD PARTY still exists

Huh

[Justplayingitcool]

Pretty sure it's going to end up being Paopan, JPIC, and Wiggly.
Sabie doesn't seem like they are going to be Mafia.
ilario or dya may flip scum just because another dayvig flipped Town, but are low priority.
sloonie or Creature also might, but just don't seem more likely than the above 3.

I have wanted to kill pao and wilgy numerous of times

[Creature]

I think Sloonei is the only one I'm seeing as wolf here.

[LinearPoint]

Actually forgot to factor in the fact a Mafia Goon just flipped so role could not have been chosen.
Given that paopan actually may always be Town since neeko isn't sure many would recognize Paopan to pick Paopan as a player.

[Creature]

Marmot
Dyslexicon
TonyStarkPrime
Phil and Gloria

all look like decent wolf picks

[Creature]

Paopan and DrWilgy aren't really popular wolf picks

[Creature]

Sloonei, on the other hand, is a decent wolf pick

[alexa]

there is 3 wolves + at least 1 SUPER THIRD PARTY left. because i just realized that if a faction is eliminated, it's announced. ergo, SUPER THIRD PARTY still exists

Huh

"If the group mafia team is eliminated, any lost mafia that may exist will inherit the factional kill and the tie break. If there are no lost mafia, it will be inherited by a third party. There will be an announcement when any faction is completely eliminated from the game."

[Justplayingitcool]

We should have listened to gullotine lol

[LinearPoint]

Isn't the whole point of 3rd parties to be their own faction of themselves so when 1 dies their whole "faction" is eliminated?

[Creature]

there is 3 wolves + at least 1 SUPER THIRD PARTY left. because i just realized that if a faction is eliminated, it's announced. ergo, SUPER THIRD PARTY still exists

Huh

"If the group mafia team is eliminated, any lost mafia that may exist will inherit the factional kill and the tie break. If there are no lost mafia, it will be inherited by a third party. There will be an announcement when any faction is completely eliminated from the game."

Does this count for solo third party? I thought it was only for mafia and factions with more than one player.

[sabie12]

Wondering if there is a 3p faction still if that is pao because the way he's played this game seems like not aligned either way. That eod where he went back and forth on guillo and tsp was super weird.

[Creature]

Also do Mac and sprityo count as one or two wolves?

[LinearPoint]

Honestly if a 3rd Party faction still exists chances are it'd be the other Slaver from Fallout Mafia.

"Metzger

You run the infamous Slaver's Guild headquartered in the Den. You and all of your people can be readily identified by the slaver tattoos plastered on your foreheads, leaving no doubts to nearly anyone in the wastes that you are not one to fuck with. Your sawed-off shotgun handles everyone else.

You didn't get to where you are without developing a wide array of wasteland survival skills and connections.
Thanks to the protection of your army of thugs, you are 1-shot bulletproof, immune to the first night kill targeted upon you unless it is enhanced by a strongman ability.
You are a 1-shot day vigilante. Once during the game during any day phase, you may select a player (send a personal message to the host). That player will be killed at the end of that day phase.
You are a 1-shot vigilante. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. That player will be killed.
You are a 1-shot doctor. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. That player will be protected from any fatal actions.
You are an intimidator. For every three consecutive day phases in which you do not receive a vote in the final poll tally, you will begin the following phase with one vote automatically removed from you in the elimination poll. These do not stack.

Vortis

You run your own Slaving operation right at the outskirts of the NCR capital city. They won't let you operate within city limits, but they tolerate you outside as long as you limit your stock to the uncivilized tribal populations roaming the region. You also work directly against the NCR Rangers, whose various outposts in the area serve to thwart slavery -- you can't have that (the NCR as a general faction is not your enemy).

Your slaving network covers the breadth of the wastes south of New Reno, where you have gleaned much about the region from captured tribes.
Thanks to the security of your compound and proximity to the NCR capital, you are 2-shot commuter. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may enact this ability to render yourself immune to all night actions targeted upon you.
You're a doublevoter. Each day phase vote you place will be worth two votes.
You're a 2-shot poisoner. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may select a player. At the end of the following night phase, that player will die. They will not be informed of the poison.
You're a tiebreaker. If any day phase elimination poll ends in a tie, you will be given 10 extra minutes to indicate to the host how you would like to break the tie. If this presents unfair time zone problems, this will instead become a 1-shot passive tie-winner ability. The first time any tie occurs featuring at least one member of any enemy faction, that player will be eliminated. If it's neither or both, it will be randomized. Only one of these abilities will ever exist and that will be determined during Phase 0.
You're a 2-shot limited watcher. Twice during the game during any separate night phase, you may select a player. You will be told who targeted that player that night if anyone. This cannot detect fatal actions."

Merzger flipped already. And 2-shot Posioner makes sense actually.

[alexa]

i am a little sketched out that sabie didn't shoot paopan. we were talking in the hood about us killing mac and her shooting pao so.... idk why she lied to us about holstering

but [VOTE: PAO] aubergine

[alexa]

there is 3 wolves + at least 1 SUPER THIRD PARTY left. because i just realized that if a faction is eliminated, it's announced. ergo, SUPER THIRD PARTY still exists

Huh

"If the group mafia team is eliminated, any lost mafia that may exist will inherit the factional kill and the tie break. If there are no lost mafia, it will be inherited by a third party. There will be an announcement when any faction is completely eliminated from the game."

Does this count for solo third party? I thought it was only for mafia and factions with more than one player.

oh, i don't know then

[LinearPoint]

What if ilario or Dya is Vortis here?
One of them could have claimed HK's dayvig shot that HK never claimed to have made.

[Creature]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

[Justplayingitcool]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

Same

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine to start the day. I have time to contribute something this phase. Will get around to doing that later.

[alexa]

What if ilario or Dya is Vortis here?
One of them could have claimed HK's dayvig shot that HK never claimed to have made.

if HK shot a wolf, they'd l;ikely claim it for towncred, no?

[LinearPoint]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

While true, Neeko will point out the Slavers in Fallout Mafia won if either faction won and overrode that faction winning.
So Town cannot win if all mafia die and Vortis is alive if Vortis is actually the source of the Poisoning.

[Creature]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

While true, Neeko will point out the Slavers in Fallout Mafia won if either faction won and overrode that faction winning.
So Town cannot win if all mafia die and Vortis is alive if Vortis is actually the source of the Poisoning.

That's garbage and really unfair especially if no such faction is announced.

[LinearPoint]

So while it's not an issue yet as 3 Mafia are still alive, it may become an issue in the future.

[Creature]

We could also be discussing whether we have a secret night 4 or night 5 bomber.

[LinearPoint]

We could also be discussing whether we have a secret night 4 or night 5 bomber.

Oh how about a game ending Jester?
Those are always fun.

[Justplayingitcool]

Did HK ever say why he claimed? Always thought it was weird

[alexa]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

While true, Neeko will point out the Slavers in Fallout Mafia won if either faction won and overrode that faction winning.
So Town cannot win if all mafia die and Vortis is alive if Vortis is actually the source of the Poisoning.

the poison is the only element of vortis that makes any sense iyam

much more likely scum just has a poison shot they used on me since they tried to hit me with factional last night and it didn't work

[Creature]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

While true, Neeko will point out the Slavers in Fallout Mafia won if either faction won and overrode that faction winning.
So Town cannot win if all mafia die and Vortis is alive if Vortis is actually the source of the Poisoning.

the poison is the only element of vortis that makes any sense iyam

much more likely scum just has a poison shot they used on me since they tried to hit me with factional last night and it didn't work

Honestly I thought it was a walrus event prize

[LinearPoint]

Did HK ever say why he claimed? Always thought it was weird

HK said his goal was to vig 2 Mafia,
Which is a blatant lie given he had only 2 vig shots.

[alexa]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

While true, Neeko will point out the Slavers in Fallout Mafia won if either faction won and overrode that faction winning.
So Town cannot win if all mafia die and Vortis is alive if Vortis is actually the source of the Poisoning.

the poison is the only element of vortis that makes any sense iyam

much more likely scum just has a poison shot they used on me since they tried to hit me with factional last night and it didn't work

Honestly I thought it was a walrus event prize

not walrus

maybe the poem thing

[LinearPoint]

Who even won the poem? No one claimed to have won right?

[Creature]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

While true, Neeko will point out the Slavers in Fallout Mafia won if either faction won and overrode that faction winning.
So Town cannot win if all mafia die and Vortis is alive if Vortis is actually the source of the Poisoning.

the poison is the only element of vortis that makes any sense iyam

much more likely scum just has a poison shot they used on me since they tried to hit me with factional last night and it didn't work

Honestly I thought it was a walrus event prize

not walrus

maybe the poem thing

Oh walrus was you three?

[alexa]

I'm really hesitant to 3p hunt while wolves are alive because we have three confirmed wolves alive and the 3p is unconfirmed. I'd rather we lynch all the wolves and if game doesn't end then we can focus on 3p hunting.

While true, Neeko will point out the Slavers in Fallout Mafia won if either faction won and overrode that faction winning.
So Town cannot win if all mafia die and Vortis is alive if Vortis is actually the source of the Poisoning.

the poison is the only element of vortis that makes any sense iyam

much more likely scum just has a poison shot they used on me since they tried to hit me with factional last night and it didn't work

Honestly I thought it was a walrus event prize

not walrus

maybe the poem thing

Oh walrus was you three?

yes

[Creature]

Who even won the poem? No one claimed to have won right?

TSP claimed one of the prizes. Maybe he was telling the truth.

[Creature]

Perhaps poetry was the poison thing

[Creature]

alexa
Belzy
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei
falcon45ca
ilario
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Paopan
Porscha
sabie12
Sloonei

So far every mafia flip feels like a decent pick from the mafia faction. I think at least two more wolves are likely decent wolf players and maybe one of the wolves alive is the captain.

Who do you all think woulf make a decent pick for wolf mate inside this list?

[Justplayingitcool]

Would pao, sabie and Sloonei work for the final 3?

[alexa]

i'd think scum would pick at least one person unexpected to throw people off. at least, i would if i picked a team

[Justplayingitcool]

Wouldn’t surprise me if there was a third party within dya and ilario lol

[falcon45ca]

Well, I'm somewhat wary of the soup, but fuggit




I shot P &G

[Creature]

Would pao, sabie and Sloonei work for the final 3?

Paopan and sabie12 look like weird picks for wolf mate unless one of them is the captain