GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Creature]

sabie12 doesn't strike me as someone with a big wolf mindset tbh

She is craftier than you might think.

Can she claim town night vigilante as wolf and that?

[Belzy]

sabie12 doesn't strike me as someone with a big wolf mindset tbh

She is craftier than you might think.

Which is exactly how i read her play.

How she suddenly woke up shading me earlier on, also.

And now being two faced, promising me and Alexa something, and talk here like a whole different person.

[Sloonei]

sabie12 doesn't strike me as someone with a big wolf mindset tbh

She is craftier than you might think.

Can she claim town night vigilante as wolf and that?

Yes

[Belzy]

Lynch sabie rn rh

Wolf vig

[falcon45ca]

If you all decide to lynch the town vig at least give me some cred for saving the town vig EOD2 even though they haven't been really useful the night after.

Nah

If we mislynch today, I guess there's still a chance town may survive to see tomorrow. However, if you all decide to lynch the town vig then you all better find a way to resolve me because I suspect two mislynches in a row almost always results in a wolf win here.

Who's "you all"? I'm not advocating for sabies flip



Pretty sure Pao & yourself have more votes than her, no?

[sabie12]

I didn't shade anyone I in fact defended alexa and belzy. After seeing macs flip I felt that looked better for them.

[falcon45ca]

Yeah, you do.



Why do you feel so agenda based on this sabie defense Creature?

[Belzy]

Or mafia who sends in factional kill wtv

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

[Creature]

Okay if you all are sure sabie12 could have done all that shit as wolf then I'll allow her lynch

[Belzy]

I didn't shade anyone I in fact defended alexa and belzy. After seeing macs flip I felt that looked better for them.

Calling me scum rn is only something Paopon still would do

And perhaps you want our trust

[Creature]

Yeah, you do.



Why do you feel so agenda based on this sabie defense Creature?

I genuinely believe she could be town vig and lynching a town vig is a big no-no in my books

[Creature]

but feels like you all are saying I am underestimating her wolf game so I'm allowing that

[Creature]

Still would mean she deliberately didn't kill anyone last night and/or one of the wolf kills failed?

[Creature]

alexa - Poisoned and dying EOD
Belzy - Mason
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei - Shot Marmot
falcon45ca - Red checked TSP
ilario - Might be resolved this EOD depending on alexa's alignment
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment
Paopan - Claiming protective role?
Porscha - Mason
sabie12 - Claiming town vig?
Sloonei - Claiming confirmable role?

[sabie12]

I'm hoping someone puts all the pieces together and comes to the right conclusion on their own as to what's really going on here.

[alexa]

Sabie, I just don't understand why you didn't just tell us that you wanted to holster if that's what you planned to do. Lying about it is the part that I don't get, because we were making a shot around an assumption both died.

[LinearPoint]

I'm hoping someone puts all the pieces together and comes to the right conclusion on their own as to what's really going on here.

Can you help Neeko understand? Because she doesn't see what you're talking about with "what's really going on"

[Creature]

Today should be 9 v 3 v 1

If alexa flips town then 8 v 3 v 1

In the case we mislynch 7 v 3 v 1

Wolves may have like 3-4 soup kills (worst case scenario: 3 v 3 v 1)

That's not counting whether sabie lives or not and whether she is town vig or wolf vig

[Justplayingitcool]

People really have to trust me Alaxa is town, we together wanted Mac dead, and Sabie was forced to join us

I'm not convinced alexa is non-town

They're dying regardless (probably) and I think if they were mafia they'd be spending a lot of time controlling spew, and I'm not sure they'd be as engaged in interacting with Ilario

[Porscha]

Popping in to move my vote to creature will catch up and post later

[Creature]

Feels like today is a mislynch no matter what I do so I gotta hope the game doesn't end tonight.

[LinearPoint]

LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment

how so? Don't really see how protecting a Town or protecting a Mafia are different.
All it would mean if Alexa flips Mafia would be that she lied about being shot by mafia.

[alexa]

People really have to trust me Alaxa is town, we together wanted Mac dead, and Sabie was forced to join us

I'm not convinced alexa is non-town

They're dying regardless (probably) and I think if they were mafia they'd be spending a lot of time controlling spew, and I'm not sure they'd be as engaged in interacting with Ilario

if I was mafia I probably wouldn't bother engaging today because I'd just be dead at EOD lol, it'd be pointless

[Creature]

Perhaps we can rely on sabie12 being town and tell her to vig inside POE. We'd need to get at least one of the lynch/vig targets right to live to D5 though.

[Creature]

LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment

how so? Don't really see how protecting a Town or protecting a Mafia are different.
All it would mean if Alexa flips Mafia would be that she lied about being shot by mafia.

imo if alexa flips town you're likely town and if alexa flips wolf you're likely wolf.

[Justplayingitcool]

How likely are we to have another night vig when you factor in Radishes flip?

[Justplayingitcool]

How likely are we to have another night vig when you factor in Radishes flip?

Another town night vig that is

[Creature]

Damn the POE should be pretty tight and we can't even find a wolf

[Sloonei]

LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment

how so? Don't really see how protecting a Town or protecting a Mafia are different.
All it would mean if Alexa flips Mafia would be that she lied about being shot by mafia.

Creature's wording is inaccurate. A better way of saying it would be that you are confirmed town if alexa is town, but the possibility exists for you to be mafia if she is mafia.

[LinearPoint]

LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment

how so? Don't really see how protecting a Town or protecting a Mafia are different.
All it would mean if Alexa flips Mafia would be that she lied about being shot by mafia.

imo if alexa flips town you're likely town and if alexa flips wolf you're likely wolf.

Still don't really see why.
It's like saying if Doctor accidentally healed a Mafia being shot by a Vig N1 the Doctor has to be Mafia.

[Creature]

How likely are we to have another night vig when you factor in Radishes flip?

Master Radishes is a day vig, no?

[Sloonei]

Damn the POE should be pretty tight and we can't even find a wolf

Wolves be like “damn I’m not a wolf that’s crazy”

[alexa]

LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment

how so? Don't really see how protecting a Town or protecting a Mafia are different.
All it would mean if Alexa flips Mafia would be that she lied about being shot by mafia.

imo if alexa flips town you're likely town and if alexa flips wolf you're likely wolf.

everyone should just be operating/solving in a world where i'm town


i literally got poisoned by a malicious third party who wilded out on me despite townreading me yesterday, it doesn't make sense. illario just wanted me dead

[Creature]

LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment

how so? Don't really see how protecting a Town or protecting a Mafia are different.
All it would mean if Alexa flips Mafia would be that she lied about being shot by mafia.

imo if alexa flips town you're likely town and if alexa flips wolf you're likely wolf.

Still don't really see why.
It's like saying if Doctor accidentally healed a Mafia being shot by a Vig N1 the Doctor has to be Mafia.

I think your claim comes as pretty convenient to "clear" alexa.

[Justplayingitcool]

How likely are we to have another night vig when you factor in Radishes flip?

Master Radishes is a day vig, no?

So he is, nevermind

[Creature]

If we decide it is better to sleep then I suggest we instead lynch ilario today just to be sure.

[Justplayingitcool]

People really have to trust me Alaxa is town, we together wanted Mac dead, and Sabie was forced to join us

I'm not convinced alexa is non-town

They're dying regardless (probably) and I think if they were mafia they'd be spending a lot of time controlling spew, and I'm not sure they'd be as engaged in interacting with Ilario

if I was mafia I probably wouldn't bother engaging today because I'd just be dead at EOD lol, it'd be pointless

Yes if I was mafia in your shoes I wouldn't bother opening the thread again

[Creature]

alexa is right we have to assume the world she is town because that's the one world we're clearly losing.

[Belzy]

Perhaps we can rely on sabie12 being town and tell her to vig inside POE. We'd need to get at least one of the lynch/vig targets right to live to D5 though.

Don't trust her. She broke her promise, is two faced, only shot town, and lied about shooting Paopan who we give high scum%

[Sloonei]

If we decide it is better to sleep then I suggest we instead lynch ilario today just to be sure.

I agree that chopping ilario is better than chopping no one.

[Creature]

You all think Paopan is wolf?

[Belzy]

And Alexa is just town!!!!

[Sloonei]

Perhaps we can rely on sabie12 being town and tell her to vig inside POE. We'd need to get at least one of the lynch/vig targets right to live to D5 though.

Don't trust her. She broke her promise, is two faced, only shot town, and lied about shooting Paopan who we give high scum%

It is not necessary to use such harsh personal language when making this accusation.

[Belzy]

Alexa and I were together in chat with sabie

Alexa and i back each other stories, but not Sabie('s)!!!!!!!!

[Sloonei]

You all think Paopan is wolf?

Eh

[Belzy]

Perhaps we can rely on sabie12 being town and tell her to vig inside POE. We'd need to get at least one of the lynch/vig targets right to live to D5 though.

Don't trust her. She broke her promise, is two faced, only shot town, and lied about shooting Paopan who we give high scum%

It is not necessary to use such harsh personal language when making this accusation.

I am sorry, where?

[alexa]

Chopping a wolf is obviously better. but as I know for a fact that illario is not achieving his proclaimed "win con" after today, I worry about what other powers he has and how the unknown can fuck us up.

[Justplayingitcool]

Perhaps we can rely on sabie12 being town and tell her to vig inside POE. We'd need to get at least one of the lynch/vig targets right to live to D5 though.

Don't trust her. She broke her promise, is two faced, only shot town, and lied about shooting Paopan who we give high scum%

It is not necessary to use such harsh personal language when making this accusation.

I am sorry, where?

two-faced was a bit strong

[LinearPoint]

LinearPoint - Dependent on alexa's alignment

how so? Don't really see how protecting a Town or protecting a Mafia are different.
All it would mean if Alexa flips Mafia would be that she lied about being shot by mafia.

imo if alexa flips town you're likely town and if alexa flips wolf you're likely wolf.

Still don't really see why.
It's like saying if Doctor accidentally healed a Mafia being shot by a Vig N1 the Doctor has to be Mafia.

I think your claim comes as pretty convenient to "clear" alexa.

True, but Alexa did claim that she got it at the start of day 2 from what Neeko remembers.
So it should be fairly obvious that she did receive it. Plus there wasn't a Mafia kill the night she said it popped.
People were talking about lynching Alexa because the vest wasn't real and as far as Neeko was concerned it was real and felt the need to clear it up.
If Neeko was wrong and stopped a Vig shot, oh well a Mafia dies today if that is the case and Neeko's fine being shot by Sabie since her usefulness has pretty much dried out.
This just feels agenday to say that Neeko cannot be Town if Alexa is Mafia. You've also been switching reads around a lot pretty much nor hard town reading many people and it's looking like you're trying to keep open as many possibilities for mislynches as possible.