Pandas vs Trash Pandas [Day 7]

[Guillotine]

I agree Creature's mechanical rampage following by his declaration to drop mechanics looked bad as hell but here's the thing with Creature, he tends to look too scummy to be scum.

Between him and Hollowkat, I can see maybe one being acum that opportunistically joined the mech talk last day, but two scum doing that is unlikely (since it was just them and NAA for the bulk of it).

I'm struggling to figure out how to talk about alignments though

Also this feels kinda bad, as if scum realized he needs to talk alignments and not just mech son they spit this empty excuse.

Why was he struggling? What were his gut reads? Etc.

Yeah ok I can believe the teammate theory.

[VOTE: Hollowkat] aubergine

Vote in the poll too

[Guillotine]

LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't talk to me like this, thanks

I apologize Nanook.

Look, i admit ive been salty that I have to convince one town to execute my scumreads, but that is not your fault, it is is mine for not reading the set up. And when i came back and saw the thread was locked and that you killed Michelle I was actually surprised that you sheeped me on her because you never sheep my reads. In a game it even went as far as “if Guillo is scum reading them that means they are town” and it frustrated me, i think it was the meta café one where Wiml carried the team to victory.

What im saying is that im happy that you finally sheeped me on something to prove that I'm the best day 1 scum hunter in Mafia and that we dont have to wait until after game to say, “ok, Guillo was right”.

Pretty arrogant to assume I sheeped you


But yeah good read good job now stop talking to me and go find another

[Creature]

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

tbh

[Creature]

One can pretty much talk about mechanics yet recognize wolves' easiest thing to do is talk about mechanics.

[Urist]

LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

[Guillotine]

LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

[DrWilgy]

Sheep Daisy. Rest of game. Bless.

[Urist]

LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

I'm saying if you are town, don't claim.

[hollowkatt]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

[Spacedaisy]

Sheep Daisy. Rest of game. Bless.

I’ve missed you Wilgy. Also say hello to Wilgette for me.

[Spacedaisy]

One can pretty much talk about mechanics yet recognize wolves' easiest thing to do is talk about mechanics.

Yeah and what you did was complain that there was so much mech talk (you called it sad) and implied it was a bust and his wolves. Completely overlooking your own role in it. I don’t believe you.

[Spacedaisy]

*hid wolves

[falcon45ca]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

[NotAnAxehole]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

[falcon45ca]

One can pretty much talk about mechanics yet recognize wolves' easiest thing to do is talk about mechanics.

This seems like fortune cookie wisdom...what are you actually trying to say here?




Also, where did your TR of me RD1 come from?

[NotAnAxehole]

One can pretty much talk about mechanics yet recognize wolves' easiest thing to do is talk about mechanics.

Yeah and what you did was complain that there was so much mech talk (you called it sad) and implied it was a bust and his wolves. Completely overlooking your own role in it. I don’t believe you.

You might though...

[falcon45ca]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

[NotAnAxehole]

I think Guillo leans town, but I would kill him if we ever got to an endgame state just because of the excessive dumb telling & him claiming the Michelle kill.

[NotAnAxehole]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

It's a good thing I don't care about your vote then...

[Dragon D. Luffy]

LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

I'm saying if you are town, don't claim.

Do you have any opinions on anything that are not mechanics?

Of your 25 posts, only 1 talks about people's alignments, and it's from yesterday, so for Day 2 you are at zero. If participation in scumhunting was to be used as a criterium for who to yeet, you are the first option.

[hollowkatt]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I was going for emphasis there.

[falcon45ca]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

It's a good thing I don't care about your vote then...

You powerwolfin' bro?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

Since votes don't really matter, I want to highlight this.

[falcon45ca]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I was going for emphasis there.

How do you read Creature, given how you feel about the others on your wagon?

[hollowkatt]

Ok, so basically guillos "case" is that I should have recognized that michelle was wolfing based entirely off of her post count, and while it is true that michelle posts lower as wolf than she does as town the shot yesterday was a gut feeling and meta application more than it was deductive reasoning to arrive at michelle is a wolf. Guillo saying "HK is wolf because he didn't make the gut call I did" is lame and wrong.

[hollowkatt]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I was going for emphasis there.

How do you read Creature, given how you feel about the others on your wagon?

I feel like it's super lame to say creature is a trash panda but creature is a trash panda

[NotAnAxehole]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

It's a good thing I don't care about your vote then...

You powerwolfin' bro?

If I were wolf, I would have 1 objective, and 1 objective only - get a town read from Urist.

And Maybe Nanook.

I mean, arguably as either alignment, it's in my best interest to be town read by Urist & Nanook, & scum read by the entire rest of the thread. Why? Because one has no influence over the other... And meta.

[Guillotine]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Dont AtE bro, you know that shit does not work on me. Find me a pelt to get on my good graces.

[NotAnAxehole]

Everyone knows their rolls for tonight?

60 if we kill trash panda
55 if we kill giant panda

[hollowkatt]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Dont AtE bro, you know that shit does not work on me. Find me a pelt to get on my good graces.

It's a good thing I don't particularly care about being in your good graces then isn't it?

[Spacedaisy]

Everyone knows their rolls for tonight?

60 if we kill trash panda
55 if we kill giant panda

Thank you for this so I don’t have to go search for it again.

[Guillotine]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

I agree. Plus HK never breaks to pressure from me, he saying that if he dies i should be shot, is acknowledging that I'm town with the power to get him killed just based on my read.
Since pocketing me didnt work, he is trying to AtE me because he is feeling that pressure.

What are you worried about HK? That Nanook might sheep me again?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Guillo I see a nonzero chance Nanook shoots you out of annoyance that you keep saying he's sheeping you.

[Guillotine]

I think Guillo leans town, but I would kill him if we ever got to an endgame state just because of the excessive dumb telling & him claiming the Michelle kill.

You know what? Now that i think about it, thank God the red panda is Nanook.

It could have been randed in much much much worse hands.

[NotAnAxehole]

If I were the shooter I'd be tempted to speed run the game

Sig -> Creature -> Spacedaisy -> Dizzy -> Guillotine

[Urist]

LOL

Get wrecked Michelle, don't ever say that I don't have a god read on you.

Also, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it took me gaslighting you to finally sheep me on my scum reads, if I knew that is how you roll I would have done it before.

By the way.. I holstered my doctor shots last night so I might or might not self protect tonight.

Now, let's kill [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine shall we? The guy tried to pocket me yesterday and defended Michelle when I asked him to vote her with me.

Why did I ask him specifically? Because Hollowkatt knew this wolf tell from Michelle and town!hollowkatt would have supported my push on her.

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

I'm saying if you are town, don't claim.

Do you have any opinions on anything that are not mechanics?

Of your 25 posts, only 1 talks about people's alignments, and it's from yesterday, so for Day 2 you are at zero. If participation in scumhunting was to be used as a criterium for who to yeet, you are the first option.

i already said that guillotine is mafia, what more do you want from me

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

I'm saying if you are town, don't claim.

Do you have any opinions on anything that are not mechanics?

Of your 25 posts, only 1 talks about people's alignments, and it's from yesterday, so for Day 2 you are at zero. If participation in scumhunting was to be used as a criterium for who to yeet, you are the first option.

i already said that guillotine is mafia, what more do you want from me

There are 3 wolves in the game, so you need to do more than at least 3 people. Currently you are doing more than 0 people.

[NotAnAxehole]

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

I'm saying if you are town, don't claim.

Do you have any opinions on anything that are not mechanics?

Of your 25 posts, only 1 talks about people's alignments, and it's from yesterday, so for Day 2 you are at zero. If participation in scumhunting was to be used as a criterium for who to yeet, you are the first option.

i already said that guillotine is mafia, what more do you want from me

There are 3 wolves in the game, so you need to do more than at least 3 people. Currently you are doing more than 0 people.

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

[Guillotine]

Ok, so basically guillos "case" is that I should have recognized that michelle was wolfing based entirely off of her post count, and while it is true that michelle posts lower as wolf than she does as town the shot yesterday was a gut feeling and meta application more than it was deductive reasoning to arrive at michelle is a wolf. Guillo saying "HK is wolf because he didn't make the gut call I did" is lame and wrong.

You dont need deductive reasoning to kill polarized wolves lol. Michelle's town vs scum game is day vs night, If i was the red panda i would have shot her quicker than i can say scum, just like i would shoot you today right now if i could, but im nit the red panda and he is not sheeping me.

[NotAnAxehole]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

My point isn't that your opinion doesn't matter, it's that... Assume Urist knows he's not getting shot, his posting so that people can read him better is really meaningless.

[NotAnAxehole]

Like me, I'm not getting shot, I could literally no-post for the rest of the day, but I'm bored

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

My point isn't that your opinion doesn't matter, it's that... Assume Urist knows he's not getting shot, his posting so that people can read him better is really meaningless.

And you think he knows that because... ?

[Guillotine]

Don't claim your shots.

Who says im not lying.

It doesn't matter. Just don't claim.

So you are saying im town now?

I'm saying if you are town, don't claim.

Do you have any opinions on anything that are not mechanics?

Of your 25 posts, only 1 talks about people's alignments, and it's from yesterday, so for Day 2 you are at zero. If participation in scumhunting was to be used as a criterium for who to yeet, you are the first option.

i already said that guillotine is mafia, what more do you want from me

[VOTE: Urist] aubergine

If you believe that im claiming my doctor shots it implies that you believe im town, but you say that im mafia.

Explain.

[NotAnAxehole]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

My point isn't that your opinion doesn't matter, it's that... Assume Urist knows he's not getting shot, his posting so that people can read him better is really meaningless.

And you think he knows that because... ?

I mean, I can say with 95+% confidence that Urist is not getting shot today.

I don't want you to take my posts the wrong way, I was simply saying you're wrong because you don't have a good grasp on how Nanook is viewing the game. I'm not saying that what YOU post doesn't matter because you don't have a gun. I did earlier say that Falcon's read on me didn't matter because he didn't have a gun... You can expect me to continue to not reply to people's reads on me this game.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

My point isn't that your opinion doesn't matter, it's that... Assume Urist knows he's not getting shot, his posting so that people can read him better is really meaningless.

And you think he knows that because... ?

I mean, I can say with 95+% confidence that Urist is not getting shot today.

I don't want you to take my posts the wrong way, I was simply saying you're wrong because you don't have a good grasp on how Nanook is viewing the game. I'm not saying that what YOU post doesn't matter because you don't have a gun. I did earlier say that Falcon's read on me didn't matter because he didn't have a gun... You can expect me to continue to not reply to people's reads on me this game.

I don't haver anything to reply to your claim that you can read nanook's mind besides "Okay".

[NotAnAxehole]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

My point isn't that your opinion doesn't matter, it's that... Assume Urist knows he's not getting shot, his posting so that people can read him better is really meaningless.

And you think he knows that because... ?

I mean, I can say with 95+% confidence that Urist is not getting shot today.

I don't want you to take my posts the wrong way, I was simply saying you're wrong because you don't have a good grasp on how Nanook is viewing the game. I'm not saying that what YOU post doesn't matter because you don't have a gun. I did earlier say that Falcon's read on me didn't matter because he didn't have a gun... You can expect me to continue to not reply to people's reads on me this game.

I don't haver anything to reply to your claim that you can read nanook's mind besides "Okay".

I didn't claim that, but thanks for the comedy act.

[falcon45ca]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I was going for emphasis there.

How do you read Creature, given how you feel about the others on your wagon?

I feel like it's super lame to say creature is a trash panda but creature is a trash panda

Do you have any SR's outside of those voting for you? Cuz' that's kinda lame

[Urist]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

My point isn't that your opinion doesn't matter, it's that... Assume Urist knows he's not getting shot, his posting so that people can read him better is really meaningless.

And you think he knows that because... ?

nanook knows my meta well enough to townread me here so posting more than the bare minimum just makes the thread more difficult to read.