Pandas vs Trash Pandas [Day 7]

[hollowkatt]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

I agree. Plus HK never breaks to pressure from me, he saying that if he dies i should be shot, is acknowledging that I'm town with the power to get him killed just based on my read.
Since pocketing me didnt work, he is trying to AtE me because he is feeling that pressure.

What are you worried about HK? That Nanook might sheep me again?

the only thing I'm worried about is you getting away with this little stunt, and creature sheeping you on it. DDL I've changed my mind on, they can be town.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Yeah this game isn't gonna be fun to play if half the plauers are gonna go "nothing matters just let nanook do everything"

I guess I gonna stop posting for today then and let nanook do everything.

See you next phase.

[NotAnAxehole]

Yeah this game isn't gonna be fun to play if half the plauers are gonna go "nothing matters just let nanook do everything"

I guess I gonna stop posting for today then and let nanook do everything.

See you next phase.

Sorting out the night mechanics & ensuring that Nanook doesn't incorrectly shoot me is doing nothing.

Under that premise, I accept that doing nothing is optimal.

[Guillotine]

When I die please shoot Guillo because this push is fabricated bullshit on a very flimsy reason. DDLs reason isn't any better

Why are you going to die? Seems a bit overdramatic

I don't think Hallowkatt is going to die.

Are you buying HK's "woe is me"? I don't like it, comes across as a bit of desperate AtE

I agree. Plus HK never breaks to pressure from me, he saying that if he dies i should be shot, is acknowledging that I'm town with the power to get him killed just based on my read.
Since pocketing me didnt work, he is trying to AtE me because he is feeling that pressure.

What are you worried about HK? That Nanook might sheep me again?

the only thing I'm worried about is you getting away with this little stunt, and creature sheeping you on it. DDL I've changed my mind on, they can be town.

If you are a wolf DDL is definitely town because this post is anti-spew.

HK, it's alright, sooner or later i would catch you. You told me some time ago that if you wanted to, you could easily pocket me and that is a comment that hurt my pride as a player and ever since then, ive been observing you, comparing your play as town and scum and im not gonna lie, your wolf range is big but the difference is that town you, gives zero fucks about my push on you when i scum read you, you just let me find out the hard way you were not after you are chopped, while here you are on survival mode when I'm the only one pushing you with conviction, you are TMIng town baby!

Creature's vote on you looks scummy and i suspect him too but you know how my brain works and i always say this:

If you see a wolf bussing their partner, help him. ¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

Ok boomer

[Creature]

Yeah this game isn't gonna be fun to play if half the plauers are gonna go "nothing matters just let nanook do everything"

I guess I gonna stop posting for today then and let nanook do everything.

See you next phase.

I know. Whenever I try to do something it feels like a waste.

[Creature]

At least we got lucky with Michelle

[Marmot]

I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

DDL is 100 % town. I'd bet this and my three next games on it.

Why's that?

[Marmot]

I reread Dizzy's ISO. Mean is not the word that I'd use to describe him, where did you see that @Dragon D. Luffy?

Dizzy's posts where he called myself and Michelle "ok" doesn't look good in light of Michelle flipping wolf.

Ok, I can actually vibe with Michelle + Marmot as pretty ok though.

In particular because this is Dizzy's only mention of Michelle, and it's a very mild read at that based on nothing in particular (though vibe reads are very real thins, I just don't see a reason for it here). I'm gathering that Dizzy is calling us both town in this post, can you clarify @Dyslexicon?

[Marmot]

Ok boomer

ONLY A BOOMER WOULD STILL THINK WE'RE PLAYING BOOMER MAFIA

[DrWilgy]

Ok. Boomer.

[hollowkatt]

Ok boomer

ONLY A BOOMER WOULD STILL THINK WE'RE PLAYING BOOMER MAFIA

tell me guillo isn't playing like a stuck in the mud boomer and I'll retract it ;-)

[Marmot]

Regardless, I do feel comfortable in calling DDL town. He had some moments I didn't like early Day 1, but he did vote Michelle (a very minor townie thing given votes are meaningless, I know), but also if Dizzy calls him town after his vote for Michelle, I do believe that if Dizzy is town, his read is probably accurate, and if Dizzy is scum, that is a mild pocket attempt, not openwolfing.

DDL and Dizzy had enough extremely engaged interactions in this game, that I don't believe they are partnery.

[Marmot]

Ok boomer

ONLY A BOOMER WOULD STILL THINK WE'RE PLAYING BOOMER MAFIA

tell me guillo isn't playing like a stuck in the mud boomer and I'll retract it ;-)

guillo isn't playing like a stuck in the mud boomer

[Marmot]

BUT, the dizzy thing is more iffy since if they have TMI this would be the perfect time to throw in the post dizzy did. Have michelle flip mafia and maybe get some quick civ points.

What town cred would I be getting? I still don't agree with shooting someone who has 4 posts. Seems like a missed opportunity to get more spew, because Michelle can be spew-y. But she was mafia, so that's a little bit nit-picky I guess.

Who would you have shot instead?

[Marmot]

I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

DDL is 100 % town. I'd bet this and my three next games on it.

ok, so fingersplints was a dodge kill?

I'd certainly believe it.

I think mafia will be very inclined to shoot townies who are not Nanook and who are not likely to draw a stray protect, in an attempt to dwindle numbers. Fingersplints was quiet enough that she probably wasn't going to draw such a protect.

[Dyslexicon]

Do I have to do anything? Please answer no

[hollowkatt]

Ok boomer

ONLY A BOOMER WOULD STILL THINK WE'RE PLAYING BOOMER MAFIA

tell me guillo isn't playing like a stuck in the mud boomer and I'll retract it ;-)

guillo isn't playing like a stuck in the mud boomer

I lied. I won't be retracting it.

[Dyslexicon]

I reread Dizzy's ISO. Mean is not the word that I'd use to describe him, where did you see that @Dragon D. Luffy?

Dizzy's posts where he called myself and Michelle "ok" doesn't look good in light of Michelle flipping wolf.

Ok, I can actually vibe with Michelle + Marmot as pretty ok though.

In particular because this is Dizzy's only mention of Michelle, and it's a very mild read at that based on nothing in particular (though vibe reads are very real thins, I just don't see a reason for it here). I'm gathering that Dizzy is calling us both town in this post, can you clarify @Dyslexicon?

Whooops

[Marmot]

Do I have to do anything? Please answer no

Answer my question plzthnks

[Dyslexicon]

I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

DDL is 100 % town. I'd bet this and my three next games on it.

Why's that?

Already answered this when Nanook asked

[Marmot]

I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

DDL is 100 % town. I'd bet this and my three next games on it.

ok, so fingersplints was a dodge kill?

Looks very blatant if they killed her for suspecting DDL.

I'm ok with that. We can kill DDL

That was fast lol. Do you suspect DDL for any other reasons?

[Marmot]

I take the falcon read back.

I would shoot Sig, creature or spacedaisy

Hi @Spacedaisy nice to finally get a game with you. Welcome to The Syndicate, Nanook has a gun... He went out onto his front porch and shouted NRA... And they delivered a gun within 10 minutes.

"Welcome to the Syndicate"

[Dyslexicon]

Lol that is very funny actually

[NotAnAxehole]

I take the falcon read back.

I would shoot Sig, creature or spacedaisy

Hi @Spacedaisy nice to finally get a game with you. Welcome to The Syndicate, Nanook has a gun... He went out onto his front porch and shouted NRA... And they delivered a gun within 10 minutes.

"Welcome to the Syndicate"

Someone gets it.

[Marmot]

Perhaps this might just be an easy game.

I'm okay with sig and Spacedaisy shots.

What about DDL?

Also, sig was the first person to dive into Michelle spew, why is he on this list?

[NotAnAxehole]

I expect your socky 2022 nominations

[Marmot]

I take the falcon read back.

I would shoot Sig, creature or spacedaisy

Hi @Spacedaisy nice to finally get a game with you. Welcome to The Syndicate, Nanook has a gun... He went out onto his front porch and shouted NRA... And they delivered a gun within 10 minutes.

Nice to play with you. I appreciate the welcome, but perhaps I should to introduce myself, I'm one of the two founders of The Syndicate.

Also, shooting me would be a mistake as I'm not a trash panda.

I thought I was reading Creature civ, but the sudden turn and claim to be suspicious of mech talk hiding trash pandas has me considering they wee in the thick of it. I'd put my vote there.

I think you mean they were weeing in the thicket?

[Marmot]

I expect your socky 2022 nominations

I'll fudge the votes in your favor, don't worry.

[NotAnAxehole]

I expect your socky 2022 nominations

I'll fudge the votes in your favor, don't worry.

Ok, I want best newcomer this year. I didn't play the minimum amount to no longer be considered a rookie.

[Marmot]

I would never kill fingersplint if I was a wolf, I would kill me, I would kill DDL if they are town, Dyslexicon if they are town or at the very least a loud voice. That kill was simply a doc dodge, but that's good because those slots like that are PoE so the wolves are helping us box them in with those kills.

GOOD JOB TRASH PANDAS! GOOD JOB! I Approve lol.

Tbf, killing yourself if you are a wolf sounds counterproductive.

Unless you were gambling that someone would protect you, but I don't know if that gains you anything. If a doctor successfully protects someone, are they informed? Also, if a player is successfully protected, are they informed that mafia tried and failed to kill them?

[hollowkatt]

I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

fingersplints was mostly on DDL. If wolves bothered to ISO her then this might be a WIFOM kill.

DDL is 100 % town. I'd bet this and my three next games on it.

ok, so fingersplints was a dodge kill?

Looks very blatant if they killed her for suspecting DDL.

I'm ok with that. We can kill DDL

That was fast lol. Do you suspect DDL for any other reasons?

not at all, but I'm on them as being townie now.

[Marmot]

I expect your socky 2022 nominations

I'll fudge the votes in your favor, don't worry.

Ok, I want best newcomer this year. I didn't play the minimum amount to no longer be considered a rookie.

Noted

[Spacedaisy]

I expect your socky 2022 nominations

I'll fudge the votes in your favor, don't worry.

Ok, I want best newcomer this year. I didn't play the minimum amount to no longer be considered a rookie.

Nah, I’m angling for best newcomer.

[Marmot]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

My point isn't that your opinion doesn't matter, it's that... Assume Urist knows he's not getting shot, his posting so that people can read him better is really meaningless.

And you think he knows that because... ?

nanook knows my meta well enough to townread me here so posting more than the bare minimum just makes the thread more difficult to read.

Why should Nanook townread you here?

As far as I can tell, your contributions today have included asserting Guillo is mafia, telling him not to reveal protect targets, and repeating those things. Imo, that's not obvious townie material.

[Guillotine]

I would never kill fingersplint if I was a wolf, I would kill me, I would kill DDL if they are town, Dyslexicon if they are town or at the very least a loud voice. That kill was simply a doc dodge, but that's good because those slots like that are PoE so the wolves are helping us box them in with those kills.

GOOD JOB TRASH PANDAS! GOOD JOB! I Approve lol.

Tbf, killing yourself if you are a wolf sounds counterproductive.

Unless you were gambling that someone would protect you, but I don't know if that gains you anything. If a doctor successfully protects someone, are they informed? Also, if a player is successfully protected, are they informed that mafia tried and failed to kill them?

Lol. That is not what i meant.

What i meant was that if i was a wolf i would kill the player who got cleared off Michelle’s death by pushing her, leading her getting shot by Nanook, or ddl who voted her right before Nanook shot her or i would fear kill a legendary player like Dizzy or at least a loud voice. Not fingertips who made no impact whatsoever on day 1.

The only explanation for that kill is that scum feared me getting protected by one of the 10 doctors and went for a doc dodge kill.

[NotAnAxehole]

The only explanation for that kill is that scum feared me getting protected by one of the 10 doctors and went for a doc dodge kill.

This if true would clear so many people.

[Marmot]

I would never kill fingersplint if I was a wolf, I would kill me, I would kill DDL if they are town, Dyslexicon if they are town or at the very least a loud voice. That kill was simply a doc dodge, but that's good because those slots like that are PoE so the wolves are helping us box them in with those kills.

GOOD JOB TRASH PANDAS! GOOD JOB! I Approve lol.

Tbf, killing yourself if you are a wolf sounds counterproductive.

Unless you were gambling that someone would protect you, but I don't know if that gains you anything. If a doctor successfully protects someone, are they informed? Also, if a player is successfully protected, are they informed that mafia tried and failed to kill them?

Lol. That is not what i meant.

What i meant was that if i was a wolf i would kill the player who got cleared off Michelle’s death by pushing her, leading her getting shot by Nanook, or ddl who voted her right before Nanook shot her or i would fear kill a legendary player like Dizzy or at least a loud voice. Not fingertips who made no impact whatsoever on day 1.

The only explanation for that kill is that scum feared me getting protected by one of the 10 doctors and went for a doc dodge kill.

I don't think those two thing are mutually inclusive, but sure it is possible.

[Creature]

Perhaps this might just be an easy game.

I'm okay with sig and Spacedaisy shots.

What about DDL?

Also, sig was the first person to dive into Michelle spew, why is he on this list?

DDL I kinda trust Dyslexicon's townread on him and also the fingersplints kill looks way straight to the face if it was done because she was wolfreading DDL.

I think sig's spew dive left me unimpressed tbh.

[Marmot]

Where I'm at right now


I do not want to shoot today: myself, DDL, Guillo

I do not want to shoot today, but would not complain if Nanook shot them: sig, Spacedaisy, falcon, hollowkatt, NAA

I would be ok with shooting today: Creature, Dizzy, DrWilgy, Urist

[Marmot]

Perhaps this might just be an easy game.

I'm okay with sig and Spacedaisy shots.

What about DDL?

Also, sig was the first person to dive into Michelle spew, why is he on this list?

DDL I kinda trust Dyslexicon's townread on him and also the fingersplints kill looks way straight to the face if it was done because she was wolfreading DDL.

I think sig's spew dive left me unimpressed tbh.

Michelle had 6 posts and 4 of them were void of any interactive content. There wasn't much to analyze.

[Creature]

What's up with Urist?

[Creature]

Perhaps this might just be an easy game.

I'm okay with sig and Spacedaisy shots.

What about DDL?

Also, sig was the first person to dive into Michelle spew, why is he on this list?

DDL I kinda trust Dyslexicon's townread on him and also the fingersplints kill looks way straight to the face if it was done because she was wolfreading DDL.

I think sig's spew dive left me unimpressed tbh.

Michelle had 6 posts and 4 of them were void of any interactive content. There wasn't much to analyze.

Yep. Just checked Michelle's ISO and it was mostly minimal talking about mech and one pocket attempt towards NANOOK.

[sig]

I don't know how valuable night kill analysis is going to be - other than it's not a mechanically minded mafia team.

why do you think that?

Also hate this logic and there's literally no reasoning behind it. With one flip and one NK no way to tell if the mafia team is mechanical or not. This seems like a great way to go down the hole of getting rid of non mech/low posters who probably aren't mafia

[Marmot]

I don't think that sig is necessarily town, but he has made more attempts at finding scum today than a few other players, namely Urist and DrWilgy

Spacedaisy falls in the same boat.


I agree that sig's attempts are not impressive, though I will acknowledge he has little to work with. On the whole, this game is very low-volume right now, and generating content seems to be difficult for a lot of people in this game.

I'd be ok shooting sig, I also think there are marginally better options today.

[Creature]

Someone should be able to read DrWilgy here I guess. Just skimmed their ISO and it looks pretty lackluster.

[Creature]

I don't think that sig is necessarily town, but he has made more attempts at finding scum today than a few other players, namely Urist and DrWilgy

Spacedaisy falls in the same boat.


I agree that sig's attempts are not impressive, though I will acknowledge he has little to work with. On the whole, this game is very low-volume right now, and generating content seems to be difficult for a lot of people in this game.

I'd be ok shooting sig, I also think there are marginally better options today.

Okay. I think I'll give sig the medal of participation.

[NotAnAxehole]

I don't know how valuable night kill analysis is going to be - other than it's not a mechanically minded mafia team.

I don't do calculus. What makes you think this?

Explaining would be playing against my win condition.

@sig 2 posts down from the one you quoted.

[Creature]

Sorry, but this is objectively false, Nanook has the gun. LOL

And he has no way of making informed decisions unless people post and participate.

Also if you are gonna just spend the game quoting people and telling them "lol all you said don't matter since you don't have the gun", I'll just ignore you because that isn't useful and isn't funny.

My point isn't that your opinion doesn't matter, it's that... Assume Urist knows he's not getting shot, his posting so that people can read him better is really meaningless.

And you think he knows that because... ?

nanook knows my meta well enough to townread me here so posting more than the bare minimum just makes the thread more difficult to read.

Urist seems confident on this?

[sig]

BUT, the dizzy thing is more iffy since if they have TMI this would be the perfect time to throw in the post dizzy did. Have michelle flip mafia and maybe get some quick civ points.

What town cred would I be getting? I still don't agree with shooting someone who has 4 posts. Seems like a missed opportunity to get more spew, because Michelle can be spew-y. But she was mafia, so that's a little bit nit-picky I guess.

The idea of the town cred is post the action being done, you make a statement against it, knowing Michelle is on your team.

So basically you're defending your wolfmate after everyone already knows they're gonna get shot which isn't something a teammate would probably do. While also not defending her that much prior to the shot. Ergo in defending her post shot being announced you'll look civvie upon her flip.