Pandas vs Trash Pandas [Day 7]

[Guillotine]

Because I think that trying to paint it as some calculated kill for a reason is silly. It was N1, there were hardly a lot of hard suspicions out there. Splints was quiet enough that she likely wouldn't be protected or hard town read by anyone so she would be a safer kill for them. This seemed really straightforward to me. Guillo obviously thought the same, and I like that look on him because it doesn't look like a wolf trying to draw connections to anyone they can.

Creature is doing exactly that right now.

[Guillotine]

Because I think that trying to paint it as some calculated kill for a reason is silly. It was N1, there were hardly a lot of hard suspicions out there. Splints was quiet enough that she likely wouldn't be protected or hard town read by anyone so she would be a safer kill for them. This seemed really straightforward to me. Guillo obviously thought the same, and I like that look on him because it doesn't look like a wolf trying to draw connections to anyone they can.

Creature is doing exactly that right now.

[Spacedaisy]

Because I think that trying to paint it as some calculated kill for a reason is silly. It was N1, there were hardly a lot of hard suspicions out there. Splints was quiet enough that she likely wouldn't be protected or hard town read by anyone so she would be a safer kill for them. This seemed really straightforward to me. Guillo obviously thought the same, and I like that look on him because it doesn't look like a wolf trying to draw connections to anyone they can.

Creature is doing exactly that right now.

I know.

[Guillotine]

Because I think that trying to paint it as some calculated kill for a reason is silly. It was N1, there were hardly a lot of hard suspicions out there. Splints was quiet enough that she likely wouldn't be protected or hard town read by anyone so she would be a safer kill for them. This seemed really straightforward to me. Guillo obviously thought the same, and I like that look on him because it doesn't look like a wolf trying to draw connections to anyone they can.

Creature is doing exactly that right now.

I know.

Any chance I can get you to sheep me on Urist? Or that we both sheep DDL then?

[Guillotine]

I'm talking like forming a voltron matters in this game. It's hard not to approach this game as a game of mafia even though it really is not.

[Guillotine]

I'm falling asleep on my desk, I cant stay up. I'll post more tomorrow

[Spacedaisy]

I could maybe be convinced of Urist. I'm obviously wrong about either Urist or Wilgy if my town reads are correct.

[Spacedaisy]

I'm talking like forming a voltron matters in this game. It's hard not to approach this game as a game of mafia even though it really is not.

I think treating it like normal mafia is the only thing we can do. Playing it like Urist won't help put wolves in uncomfortable positions and possibly force them out of hiding. we need to give Nook something to work with ad I think the best way is to treat it like a normal scum hunt.

[Spacedaisy]

Why are you so confident of Urist, Guillo?

[Spacedaisy]

Oh, I missed what you said about sheeping DDL. I'd probably be most confident of that option.

[Spacedaisy]

In fact...

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[Spacedaisy]

I realized I didn't do an ISO of Creature. I was actually trying to avoid going over that again, but I probably will in the morning. It's too late now.

I don't think it's likely my opinion will change, but who knows. I didn't expect such a huge swing on DDL either.

Anyway, I'll vote with DDL on Creature for now.

[DrWilgy]

Baba.

[falcon45ca]

Family emergency IRL, I won't be around today.



Nook, just shoot whoever you think is scum

[DrWilgy]

Falcon. Shoot there.

[Guillotine]

Falcon. Shoot there.

Nah, we should be shooting Urist or Creature today. They both are scum in my opinion.

[Guillotine]

I want Urist head but for some reason you guys rather keep her around, my only hope is that Nanook sheeps me this time.

The second next best thing is Creature, if you change your mind about Urist, i will switch there. @Spacedaisy , you asked why? ISO me again.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[DrWilgy]

Creature. Acceptable shot.

Falcon preferred.

[Urist]

yeah sorry i just had a c-section, can't play much.

Congratulations on your baby

my kids were born a few years ago, but thanks. i was referencing the fact that dyachei had a c-section during GoC, so comparing our activity levels was a bit silly.

[DrWilgy]

yeah sorry i just had a c-section, can't play much.

Congratulations on your baby

my kids were born a few years ago, but thanks. i was referencing the fact that dyachei had a c-section during GoC, so comparing our activity levels was a bit silly.

Congrats. Babz. Few years ago.

[Urist]

yeah sorry i just had a c-section, can't play much.

Congratulations on your baby

my kids were born a few years ago, but thanks. i was referencing the fact that dyachei had a c-section during GoC, so comparing our activity levels was a bit silly.

Congrats. Babz. Few years ago.

Thank you!

[Guillotine]

I had an illegal read that now is not illegal anymore, it is just meta. I thought Dyslexicon had reasons to kill Marmot as they randed scum together at GoC andsince Marmot suspected Dizzy, I thought they fear killed Marmot. Obviously that read didn't age well.

[Spacedaisy]

I mean, I believe we have three wolves among Creature, falcon, Urist, and Wilgy. I like the odds of shooting any one of those. I just feel more comfortable with either falcon or Creature.

Guillo, I will look back at your ISO to refresh on why Urist. I just have to work again today so I won't have as much time.

[Guillotine]

Where I'm at right now


I do not want to shoot today: myself, DDL, Guillo

I do not want to shoot today, but would not complain if Nanook shot them: sig, Spacedaisy, falcon, hollowkatt, NAA

I would be ok with shooting today: Creature, Dizzy, DrWilgy, Urist

Let me level with you all, specially Nanook. I got the feeling Marmot got killed for this legacy and it's the very reason why I think Urist and Creature as scum

[Guillotine]

I mean, I believe we have three wolves among Creature, falcon, Urist, and Wilgy. I like the odds of shooting any one of those. I just feel more comfortable with either falcon or Creature.

Guillo, I will look back at your ISO to refresh on why Urist. I just have to work again today so I won't have as much time.

I leave to work in less than an hour, I don't have time either lol, I have to get ready.

[Guillotine]

Where I'm at right now


I do not want to shoot today: myself, DDL, Guillo

I do not want to shoot today, but would not complain if Nanook shot them: sig, Spacedaisy, falcon, hollowkatt, NAA

I would be ok with shooting today: Creature, Dizzy, DrWilgy, Urist

Let me level with you all, specially Nanook. I got the feeling Marmot got killed for this legacy and it's the very reason why I think Urist and Creature as scum

So yah this is my legacy. Obviously I'm not 100% confident cause HK and Dizzy's flipping town killed it for me and killed my WIM but I don't see a world where at least one of them is not scum.

So [VOTE: Urist] aubergine or [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

bye

[Spacedaisy]

I mean, I believe we have three wolves among Creature, falcon, Urist, and Wilgy. I like the odds of shooting any one of those. I just feel more comfortable with either falcon or Creature.

Guillo, I will look back at your ISO to refresh on why Urist. I just have to work again today so I won't have as much time.

I leave to work in less than an hour, I don't have time either lol, I have to get ready.

Oh I wasn't asking you for anything. I was just saying that today I'll be less present, but that I would look back at your ISO to see what your case was.

I found two things.
1. Urist didn't scum hunt much during Day 1, it was pretty much all mech talk. I agree, but it was also the best plan put forward and one that was less easily manipulated by wolves.
2. You think Urist's reads look like TMI (I think that is what I'm seeing)
3. You think Urist is pocketing Nook

I frankly don't know which of Wilgy or Urist is bad. However, I think falcon and Creature appear to be in most everyone's PoE. That is why I feel better about one of those two. Sure, Nook could shoot Urist, but if we are wrong and it's Wilgy, then isn't that pretty much the game?

Meh. good luck Nook, lol. Seriously, I don't envy you this decision. But I think we have a slim enough PoE that our chances are decent to hit a wolf today.

[Creature]

I mean, I believe we have three wolves among Creature, falcon, Urist, and Wilgy. I like the odds of shooting any one of those. I just feel more comfortable with either falcon or Creature.

Guillo, I will look back at your ISO to refresh on why Urist. I just have to work again today so I won't have as much time.

I don't think the wolfteam is a team of potatoes.

[Creature]

I feel like I could divide the non-NANOOK players into two groups:

Higher skilled players: DDL, Guillo, Space
Lower skilled players: DrWilgy, falcon, Urist

If I had to include myself I'd maybe be somewhere in the middle.

I don't really think the wolfteam is comprised entirely of the lower skilled players. DrWilgy + falcon + Urist feels like the laziest solve and one that wolves would make. So it's weird Spacedaisy seems to be pushing this lazy combination + me.

[Creature]

I want Urist head but for some reason you guys rather keep her around, my only hope is that Nanook sheeps me this time.

The second next best thing is Creature, if you change your mind about Urist, i will switch there. @Spacedaisy , you asked why? ISO me again.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

I feel like this is spewing Urist town.

[Creature]

Where I'm at right now


I do not want to shoot today: myself, DDL, Guillo

I do not want to shoot today, but would not complain if Nanook shot them: sig, Spacedaisy, falcon, hollowkatt, NAA

I would be ok with shooting today: Creature, Dizzy, DrWilgy, Urist

Let me level with you all, specially Nanook. I got the feeling Marmot got killed for this legacy and it's the very reason why I think Urist and Creature as scum

Marmot was one of the towniest players at the time and I think their kill was just getting rid of townread players like NAA and Dyslexicon.

[Creature]

yeah sorry i just had a c-section, can't play much.

Congratulations on your baby

my kids were born a few years ago, but thanks. i was referencing the fact that dyachei had a c-section during GoC, so comparing our activity levels was a bit silly.

I know. I was following the joke.

[Creature]

Because I think that trying to paint it as some calculated kill for a reason is silly. It was N1, there were hardly a lot of hard suspicions out there. Splints was quiet enough that she likely wouldn't be protected or hard town read by anyone so she would be a safer kill for them. This seemed really straightforward to me. Guillo obviously thought the same, and I like that look on him because it doesn't look like a wolf trying to draw connections to anyone they can.

Creature is doing exactly that right now.

It isn't a calculated kill. I just doubt wolves would kill N1 a player they don't even know and wasn't posing a danger D1 and wasn't townread either. It's pretty reasonable to believe the fingersplints kill seems to come from one oldschooler or a player familiar with fingersplints.

Also you're now doing the same with Marmot.

[Creature]

DDL/Guillo/Space being all town looks weird fmpov.

[Creature]

Guillo and Space look wolfy in this page. DDL at least doesn't seem to be participating of this wolfy circlejerk. Perhaps falcon is the third wolf here as both DrWilgy and Urist seem town.

[Creature]

Maybe I'm less sure at Spacedaisy. Guillo looks horrible from his post-D1 pushes being mostly on town. falcon also doesn't seem any worried about this LyLo so he's probably wolf here. Spacedaisy looks slightly better from pushing falcon, but also her POE seems pretty lazy.

[Urist]

I feel like I could divide the non-NANOOK players into two groups:

Higher skilled players: DDL, Guillo, Space
Lower skilled players: DrWilgy, falcon, Urist

If I had to include myself I'd maybe be somewhere in the middle.

I don't really think the wolfteam is comprised entirely of the lower skilled players. DrWilgy + falcon + Urist feels like the laziest solve and one that wolves would make. So it's weird Spacedaisy seems to be pushing this lazy combination + me.

scum fearkilled me n1 in the goc, pretty sure that makes me the best player onsite

[Spacedaisy]

Maybe I'm less sure at Spacedaisy. Guillo looks horrible from his post-D1 pushes being mostly on town. falcon also doesn't seem any worried about this LyLo so he's probably wolf here. Spacedaisy looks slightly better from pushing falcon, but also her POE seems pretty lazy.

What he looked to me was like someone tunneling, which is more likely to come from a town than a wolf. If our votes counted for something, it might be a different story, but in this setup I think it benefits wolves a lot more to keep us from getting any kind of slim PoE, because it lowers the chance Nook might shoot one of them. Tunneling won't help that. Especially given Nook hasn't seemed interested in his tunnels after his D1 Michelle kill. In the end Nook makes this call, not the vote. You can bet the wolves recognize that and have to play to that setup. Normally, big tunneled cases might convince lazy players to vote someone. Here it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters what Nook thinks and wolves can't predict that if Nook doesn't say anything. Which he rightfully hasn't. So the best bet for a wolf team is keeping spreading as much suspicion around as possible rather than tunneling one or two people they know are going to flip town. This is part of why Guillo looks town to me, among many other things.

Could he have me pocketed? It's not beyond the realm of possibility, but I don't believe it is the case. I think he is genuinely town. I have to be able to start from somewhere, so I'm going to trust my instincts and read on this. If he fooled me, kudos to him.

Regardless, in the end what I believe about Guillo doesn't matter. Nook's opinion on him does.

P.S. Thanks for the compliment on my skill, even if you were trying to shade me with it.

[Spacedaisy]

I want Urist head but for some reason you guys rather keep her around, my only hope is that Nanook sheeps me this time.

The second next best thing is Creature, if you change your mind about Urist, i will switch there. @Spacedaisy , you asked why? ISO me again.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

I feel like this is spewing Urist town.

I don't understand how it is spewing town if he wants to vote Urist...

If you flip bad, I would say that Urist is probably town though, given that you just tried to make Guillo look guilty of having TMI based on Urist's alignment that we don't even know yet.

[Spacedaisy]

Maybe I'm just not up with the lingo though, I haven't played in a couple years. spewing town is a TMI tell, correct? As in, you are saying Guillo is calling Urist town because he knows he is town?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If you have something groundbreaking please post it now cause I'm gonna shoot soon

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Two minutes is enough warning right

@dunya shoot guillo plz

[Creature]

I don't have anything groundbreaking right now. I think my preference is at falcon > Guillo > Spacedaisy. Being wrong on hollowkatt still gets me though.

[Creature]

I'm still town

[dunya]

locking thread while i search for cute panda pics brb

[dunya]

Day 4 vote

Spoiler: show

get rid of the trash before the trash gets rid of you....
Poll runs till Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Creature
4
24%
Voters: DrWilgy, Dragon D. Luffy, Spacedaisy, Guillotine
Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
6%
Voters: falcon45ca
falcon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Guillotine
2
12%
Voters: Creature, Urist
Spacedaisy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Urist
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
1
6%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
host/mods/dead/spec
9
53%
Voters: MacDougall, sabie12, nutella, Marmot, juliets, Scotty, hollowkatt, Syn, dunya
Total votes: 17

[dunya]

and just like that, the great red panda told all the giant pandas to shut up and stop talking.

he took out his big guns and he told them to line up, cos he was ready to shoot his shot and go to sleep for the night.

[dunya]

hiding from his tree, Red Panda observed as the giant pandas went back and forth



Red Panda was getting tired of hearing one panda's voice in particular...

something reeked about him....

something was off and it was time to address the elephant panda in the room.......






Guillotine was shot. He flips mafia!



Hooray, panda population not going extinct yet in Syndicaville (I feel like I'm changing the name of this country with every post but yea).


It is now Night 4. You have until 5PM EDT FEB 17 to send me your night actions if you have them.

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@Creature
@Dragon D. Luffy
@DrWilgy
@falcon45ca
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Spacedaisy
@Urist

[dunya]

the night was calm. beautiful. serene.

red panda stretched himself out with a lazy yawn, it felt good to get rid of trash overnight...and even better to wake up to the faces of his happy panda friends.



the pandas all woke up grinning at each other, feeling well rested and ready for to kick some trash panda bum bums again!!!




No one is missing!!! All Giant Pandas and Red Panda were safe overnight!


It is now Day 5. You have until 6PM EDT Feb 19 to capture a trash panda!!

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@Creature
@Dragon D. Luffy
@DrWilgy
@falcon45ca
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Spacedaisy
@Urist

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dab