DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am
I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.
I have no clue how to interpret this.
Goodnight.
Ythistho
Because it adds perspective.
If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.
Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.
i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol
also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?
BOLDZINGA
oh mb, i read that “their” as “wolves other than radishes” because radishes’ team would be “his team” not “their team” since he’s the subject of the sentence, or at least i think idk i’m not epi
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:05 pm
also if for some reason you think wolves will just do that and they haven’t, the fact that the haven’t would make MR a wolf right? but your not concluding that? or are you?
I'm finding that the likely scenario, BUT I think it also is more so worth keeping in mind while we accrue more data on the people currently on MR.
If any of them specifically flip wolf, prior to us flipping MR, I'd say that just about clears MR. If MR flips Wolf, I'd say it just about clears everyone on the Wagon, with the exception that we think that there's a bussing teammate who just wasn't around to course correct.
what do you think of radishes’ posts? or any thoughts on the people pushing him?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:05 pm
also if for some reason you think wolves will just do that and they haven’t, the fact that the haven’t would make MR a wolf right? but your not concluding that? or are you?
I'm finding that the likely scenario, BUT I think it also is more so worth keeping in mind while we accrue more data on the people currently on MR.
If any of them specifically flip wolf, prior to us flipping MR, I'd say that just about clears MR. If MR flips Wolf, I'd say it just about clears everyone on the Wagon, with the exception that we think that there's a bussing teammate who just wasn't around to course correct.
what do you think of radishes’ posts? or any thoughts on the people pushing him?
Haven't read that yet.
My thoughts are on vote assessment and like the past page.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:31 pm
Simply this:
if MR flips RED, I don't think these are wolves
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I think there's a likely chance MR is red because of them not being hammered for what, a 10-12 hour period of floating 4?
your entire line of thought doesn’t make any sense to me
both the assumption wolves would just out themselves to hammer a villager early D1 and the assumption that if radishes is a wolf his teammate wouldn’t vote him to distance 30+ hours before EoD when votes don’t really matter just… idk why you would ever assume either of those things
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am
I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.
I have no clue how to interpret this.
Goodnight.
Ythistho
Because it adds perspective.
If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.
Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.
i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol
also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?
BOLDZINGA
The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.
if anything i would almost say the opposite i.e. radishes getting 4 votes despite not being particularly wolfy (at least imo) could mean one of the voters is his teammate and getting in some easy distancing when it doesn’t actually matter
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am
I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.
I have no clue how to interpret this.
Goodnight.
Ythistho
Because it adds perspective.
If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.
Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.
i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol
also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?
BOLDZINGA
The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.
i’ve never heard anyone not refer to a two-man team as a team so i don’t think this is anything
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am
I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.
I have no clue how to interpret this.
Goodnight.
Ythistho
Because it adds perspective.
If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.
Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.
i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol
also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?
BOLDZINGA
The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.
I'm willing to fold to the consensus Marmot reads now
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am
I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.
I have no clue how to interpret this.
Goodnight.
Ythistho
Because it adds perspective.
If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.
Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.
i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol
also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?
BOLDZINGA
The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.
i’ve never heard anyone not refer to a two-man team as a team so i don’t think this is anything
villagery catch from you though
Oh come on I've been winning every sniper duel lately
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:39 pm
@JaggedJimmyJay are you now able to talk about the Radish things you couldn't talk about before
Briefly. Very little time this afternoon
I don’t think you were entirely fair with your reception of my initial MR read explanation or his reception of it (Hally called it uncharitable which I think fits). I don’t blame you for that; I understand your read too. I just didn’t find it compelling.
I’m less ecstatic about MR at present, but I also haven’t read anything today
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Reading his iso did not help. Idk, sometimes I can get a confident read on him, sometimes I have no idea, rn I have no idea, he's rand as far as I'm concerned
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am
I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.
I have no clue how to interpret this.
Goodnight.
Ythistho
Because it adds perspective.
If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.
Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.
i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol
also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?
BOLDZINGA
The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.
i’ve never heard anyone not refer to a two-man team as a team so i don’t think this is anything
villagery catch from you though
My point is that if MR is a wolf, his team consists of one other person which is not much of a team. I agree it is a very specific detail but I see it as a single townie point.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:55 pm[VOTE:
DrWilgy] aubergine
Too much hammer chatter
Must say, I also found this weird. I never felt in danger of being hammered and I even resisted self voting for the meme because I figured it'd be a town more likely to hammer me, not a scum.
And then he doubled down on it which I guess is not really AI but still is a likely enough scum approach when called out on something.
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 pm
Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"
- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.
- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.
- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:06 pm
also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think
i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 pm
Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"
- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.
- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.
- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:06 pm
also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think
i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 pm
Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"
- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.
- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.
- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:06 pm
also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think
i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here
Never seen scum NAA either so dunno, but I did read it over earlier and didn't have anything to counter it, just so you know your hard work didn't go to waste.
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 pm
Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"
- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.
- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.
- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:06 pm
also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think
i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here
I understand your view of NAA, Hally, and believe that you believe it. I am not sure those things are necessarily a terrible sign for him (specifically him), but they don’t indicate town either. At the least I’d have him in a POE pool.
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I found it easy to misread Axey first time I played with him though. So like your second point of not seeing concern in his posts does feel normal for him imo.
I missed a lot of NAA's early content, so I don't have an opinion on him yet. I recall commenting on his sheeping of Alison in that it's something I've regularly seen him do as town, but that doesn't equate to a townread.
What I've seen and heard of Axe makes me think the whole "caring about pushing reads" thing doesn't apply to him lol
Soz if my lack of response made you sound unheard, it was just that you ended on the thought I probably would've tried to steer you towards anyway so I decided to just let that thought simmer
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:05 pm
I missed a lot of NAA's early content, so I don't have an opinion on him yet. I recall commenting on his sheeping of Alison in that it's something I've regularly seen him do as town, but that doesn't equate to a townread.
I'd sheep Hally's case on him though.
i don’t think anyone should sheep me on it lol
like i said, never played with him and the response to my case seems to be some amount of “this isn’t particularly wolfy for NAA,” so ok
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:05 pm
I missed a lot of NAA's early content, so I don't have an opinion on him yet. I recall commenting on his sheeping of Alison in that it's something I've regularly seen him do as town, but that doesn't equate to a townread.
I'd sheep Hally's case on him though.
i don’t think anyone should sheep me on it lol
like i said, never played with him and the response to my case seems to be some amount of “this isn’t particularly wolfy for NAA,” so ok
I hate trying to read him, gimme that juicy decisive read plzzzzzzzzz
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