The Rings of Power - Game Over

[DrWilgy]

Wa happen?

[Scotty]

so HK you nearly died but didn't... penny for ur thoughts

I'm threadspewed town baby

Give more reasons to read you as town.

How does that Tim McGraw song go? Live Like You We’re Dying?

[Scotty]

By the way, I'm a huge fan of Kara. I want you all to know how great they are.

I once dated a Kara.

Ironically, she didn’t kara bout the relationship enough




this is a pun and true story

[Scotty]

Unfortunately, this confirms me town because otherwise, I would just continuously watch town fail to reach maj and laugh.

Mafia have safe claims. This only confirms you as town if we end with exactly the number of majority, though.

Also I see there’s a ring that can influence votes. Also, there’s a ring that can give another player a secret vote.

All those together mean that it’s not clearing.

But your hubris is noted!

[Scotty]

Bluff?

I don’t doubt you to be a double voter.
I do doubt you raising the lynch count. That’s not how a double voter works.

Plus your post before you say sorry for the day before. “My fault” that would have put us at nine not “10”. So how is it your fault.

Liar liar pants on fire.

So you think he is town, but just seeing seeds of chaos?

[Scotty]

Bluff?

I don’t doubt you to be a double voter.
I do doubt you raising the lynch count. That’s not how a double voter works.

Plus your post before you say sorry for the day before. “My fault” that would have put us at nine not “10”. So how is it your fault.

Liar liar pants on fire.

So you think he is town, but just seeing seeds of chaos?

sewing*

[srceenplay]

Bluff?

I don’t doubt you to be a double voter.
I do doubt you raising the lynch count. That’s not how a double voter works.

Plus your post before you say sorry for the day before. “My fault” that would have put us at nine not “10”. So how is it your fault.

Liar liar pants on fire.

So you think he is town, but just seeing seeds of chaos?

Nope. Put him in the flip pile too

[DaughterOfOmega]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

Everyone else can die

Yesterday was fucking embarrassing

In my defence and my defence is necessary, I knew my eods would be embarrassing this game, but 5am eods? No thanks.

Well I was thinking about you last night Dunya

I used my ring to shorten the EOD by 6 hours. It should be 11pm your time

Oh. Ok.

And why exactly is that something you felt you needed to claim? Shortening town isn’t exactly townsided

This is honestly absurdly stupid, and makes me mafia read you to such high heaven. I honestly think you are trying to be this stupid as Mafia

[DaughterOfOmega]

It's actually kind of crazy, I have such strong feelings toward Scotty, but very little people talk about the things I feel he is mafia for

[Scotty]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

Everyone else can die

Yesterday was fucking embarrassing

In my defence and my defence is necessary, I knew my eods would be embarrassing this game, but 5am eods? No thanks.

Well I was thinking about you last night Dunya

I used my ring to shorten the EOD by 6 hours. It should be 11pm your time

Oh. Ok.

And why exactly is that something you felt you needed to claim? Shortening town isn’t exactly townsided

This is honestly absurdly stupid, and makes me mafia read you to such high heaven. I honestly think you are trying to be this stupid as Mafia

Note that I don’t take offense to you calling me stupid, it’s just a game.

However, please throw me a lifeline on how shortening the day- the only time we have to discuss the game- is good. Pretend I’m a wee lad

[Scotty]

I don’t remember the last time I played with DOOM but does she usually get this aggro as town?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Okay I got prodded. Funny enough, I got used to playing games with longer deadlines, so I figured I wouldn’t miss much not being around for a day while swamped with work. That was an error. I would have at least voted to make sure we got an execution.

In any case, I’ll be catching up and be around. Any questions, withhold until I’ve actually finished reading.

This can also die

[osieorb18]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

Everyone else can die

Yesterday was fucking embarrassing

I literally put my vote on someone that was a consensus suspect to most and then went to a work meeting. What's embarrassing is that they were allowed to survive because of a dumb fuck self vote gambit.

^ This TBH

Anyways mac and axe are both town, if HK is mafia then no more than one mafia in Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

If HK is town probably multiple mafia in that group, so let's flip HK

Why are mac and NAA town

Especially NAA. If I didn't think that HK was more likely to flip today, I'd pretty much always go for NAA; they get progressively scummier with every post.

This is a serious question: is there anything terrible about mass claiming our rings and abilities? I don’t see any sort of soup kill at stake

Ehh. I'm thinking I might have a game-winning strategy for town if I get Ring 13 though, and an okay strategy if we can coordinate Ring 7.

Like... why even bother making the original post saying that you feel its town best interest for you to reveal if you get pissy about anyone agreeing? Are you going out of your way in an attempt to get a stupid mafia to agree with you and all other townies to disagree? I dont understand.

Is this a scum claim?

Porscha's entry has been good. I like it. I don't think their confusion on what DOOM was saying was so inconceivable either, cos I was also confused.

Jack is probably town.

When I'm not at work and on phone, I'll update my townie list cos I feel I have a good list now I feel comfortable with.

Scotty is either town or exactly scum trying to pocket me --- I want to iso there lol.

Care to explain any of this beyond the confusion point?

Because as it turns out, yeeting anyone at all regardless of your scumreads is a bad strategy. So I placed a symbolic vote for where I’d want the yeet to be before signing off for the night.

^ This TBH.

I’m not as certain Axe is town but I’m leaning that way

Why? Their play and their claim are both scummy AF.

We should probably not wait until the last fucking minute to decide on a wagon.

^ This TBH.

Perhaps we should do an in-thread voting thing where we attach a # to each player on the list of the living.

Example:
"2" being I would vote this person
"1" being I would vote this person but I am reluctant to do so
"0" being I would never vote this person except for hammer
"-1" fuck you martin

Anyone who doesn't do that or something similar (and decides to be unhelpful in that regard) and we can consider yeeting them for it.

Because otherwise I don't see how we can easily come to a conclusion other than potentially yeet HK today, which I don't like (the single-choice issue). I think a possibility to consider is that the mafia no-killed because they wanted the HK yeet to be the seeming only option.

Although if I understand correctly, DOOM's ring also allows whoever they targeted to decide the yeet via their vote. Alternatively, we could just not vote today and if anyone votes for anyone else we will figure that was the person who was targeted by that, and then judge accordingly.

Spoiler: show

Andresvmb 2
Creature 2
DaughterOfOmega 0
DrWilgy 2
dunya 2
hollowkatt 1
Jackofhearts2005 1
MacDougall 1
Marmot 0
Moonwink 0
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 1
NotAnAxehole 1
osieorb18 1
Porscha 2
Scotty 2
Srceenplay 2

If we end up not doing this I'm probably going to just dig through ISO's sometime 24ish hours from now and compile a list of who would vote who.

Sure.

Spoiler: show

Moonwink 2+
NotAnAxehole 2+

Andresvmb 2
DrWilgy 2
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Porscha 2

hollowkatt 1+
MacDougall 1+
MartinGG99 1+

DaughterOfOmega 1
dunya 1
Marmot 1

Creature 0
Jackofhearts2005 0
Scotty 0
Srceenplay 0

osieorb18 -1

I mean I feel like HK is the move today regardless. Nook is right- we need a resolution, and can learn something either way if he’s bad or good. Right now all we know is conjecture since we have no flips.

I'd still prefer NAA (and noone has really made a towncase on them yet, unlike with HK, AND they've gotten worse going into Day 2).

This is honestly absurdly stupid, and makes me mafia read you to such high heaven. I honestly think you are trying to be this stupid as Mafia

Hey, cool it. No need for this.

It's actually kind of crazy, I have such strong feelings toward Scotty, but very little people talk about the things I feel he is mafia for

You could talk about it (politely) and maybe people will listen if you explain it well enough.

[osieorb18]

However, please throw me a lifeline on how shortening the day- the only time we have to discuss the game- is good. Pretend I’m a wee lad

^ This TBH

[osieorb18]

The following day, after a breakfast or two, the council reconvenes for another exciting day of calm and measured discussion. Some appear shocked that all the members of the council have made an appearance. Were they expecting something else?


Nobody was killed.

Day Two begins now. Post Limits to follow.

Are you shitting me lol. We basically have a 96hr day 1.

Pain in my guts.

I like 96 hour Days...

But yeah, the no elim was pretty dumb.

At least no elim no kill is better than no elim and then a kill?

[osieorb18]

Bluff?

I don’t doubt you to be a double voter.
I do doubt you raising the lynch count. That’s not how a double voter works.

Plus your post before you say sorry for the day before. “My fault” that would have put us at nine not “10”. So how is it your fault.

Liar liar pants on fire.

So you think he is town, but just seeing seeds of chaos?

Nope. Put him in the flip pile too

Agreed.

[Scotty]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

Everyone else can die

Yesterday was fucking embarrassing

I literally put my vote on someone that was a consensus suspect to most and then went to a work meeting. What's embarrassing is that they were allowed to survive because of a dumb fuck self vote gambit.

^ This TBH

Anyways mac and axe are both town, if HK is mafia then no more than one mafia in Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

If HK is town probably multiple mafia in that group, so let's flip HK

Why are mac and NAA town

Especially NAA. If I didn't think that HK was more likely to flip today, I'd pretty much always go for NAA; they get progressively scummier with every post.

This is a serious question: is there anything terrible about mass claiming our rings and abilities? I don’t see any sort of soup kill at stake

Ehh. I'm thinking I might have a game-winning strategy for town if I get Ring 13 though, and an okay strategy if we can coordinate Ring 7.

Like... why even bother making the original post saying that you feel its town best interest for you to reveal if you get pissy about anyone agreeing? Are you going out of your way in an attempt to get a stupid mafia to agree with you and all other townies to disagree? I dont understand.

Is this a scum claim?

Porscha's entry has been good. I like it. I don't think their confusion on what DOOM was saying was so inconceivable either, cos I was also confused.

Jack is probably town.

When I'm not at work and on phone, I'll update my townie list cos I feel I have a good list now I feel comfortable with.

Scotty is either town or exactly scum trying to pocket me --- I want to iso there lol.

Care to explain any of this beyond the confusion point?

Because as it turns out, yeeting anyone at all regardless of your scumreads is a bad strategy. So I placed a symbolic vote for where I’d want the yeet to be before signing off for the night.

^ This TBH.

I’m not as certain Axe is town but I’m leaning that way

Why? Their play and their claim are both scummy AF.

We should probably not wait until the last fucking minute to decide on a wagon.

^ This TBH.

Perhaps we should do an in-thread voting thing where we attach a # to each player on the list of the living.

Example:
"2" being I would vote this person
"1" being I would vote this person but I am reluctant to do so
"0" being I would never vote this person except for hammer
"-1" fuck you martin

Anyone who doesn't do that or something similar (and decides to be unhelpful in that regard) and we can consider yeeting them for it.

Because otherwise I don't see how we can easily come to a conclusion other than potentially yeet HK today, which I don't like (the single-choice issue). I think a possibility to consider is that the mafia no-killed because they wanted the HK yeet to be the seeming only option.

Although if I understand correctly, DOOM's ring also allows whoever they targeted to decide the yeet via their vote. Alternatively, we could just not vote today and if anyone votes for anyone else we will figure that was the person who was targeted by that, and then judge accordingly.

Spoiler: show

Andresvmb 2
Creature 2
DaughterOfOmega 0
DrWilgy 2
dunya 2
hollowkatt 1
Jackofhearts2005 1
MacDougall 1
Marmot 0
Moonwink 0
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 1
NotAnAxehole 1
osieorb18 1
Porscha 2
Scotty 2
Srceenplay 2

If we end up not doing this I'm probably going to just dig through ISO's sometime 24ish hours from now and compile a list of who would vote who.

Sure.

Spoiler: show

Moonwink 2+
NotAnAxehole 2+

Andresvmb 2
DrWilgy 2
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Porscha 2

hollowkatt 1+
MacDougall 1+
MartinGG99 1+

DaughterOfOmega 1
dunya 1
Marmot 1

Creature 0
Jackofhearts2005 0
Scotty 0
Srceenplay 0

osieorb18 -1

I mean I feel like HK is the move today regardless. Nook is right- we need a resolution, and can learn something either way if he’s bad or good. Right now all we know is conjecture since we have no flips.

I'd still prefer NAA (and noone has really made a towncase on them yet, unlike with HK, AND they've gotten worse going into Day 2).

This is honestly absurdly stupid, and makes me mafia read you to such high heaven. I honestly think you are trying to be this stupid as Mafia

Hey, cool it. No need for this.

It's actually kind of crazy, I have such strong feelings toward Scotty, but very little people talk about the things I feel he is mafia for

You could talk about it (politely) and maybe people will listen if you explain it well enough.

I also think NAA is bad, but now knowing with majority in play, it’s important we can all consolidate and agree on a name. Mafia know this and they’re gonna have to eventually bus their teammates too or else they’ll look fishy in this type of setup

[DaughterOfOmega]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

Everyone else can die

Yesterday was fucking embarrassing

In my defence and my defence is necessary, I knew my eods would be embarrassing this game, but 5am eods? No thanks.

Well I was thinking about you last night Dunya

I used my ring to shorten the EOD by 6 hours. It should be 11pm your time

Oh. Ok.

And why exactly is that something you felt you needed to claim? Shortening town isn’t exactly townsided

This is honestly absurdly stupid, and makes me mafia read you to such high heaven. I honestly think you are trying to be this stupid as Mafia

Note that I don’t take offense to you calling me stupid, it’s just a game.

However, please throw me a lifeline on how shortening the day- the only time we have to discuss the game- is good. Pretend I’m a wee lad

No group will need the extra 6 hours to decide on a vote.

I've changed the EOD time so that it's EU friendly and allows for much more activity for everyone involved. This is only town friendly, pepega.

Also my ring allowed me to choose someone whose vote will auto kill who they select if no maj is reached.

[DaughterOfOmega]

"How does shortening the day help town" :pepega:

[osieorb18]

My ability changes the required vote count for Majority.

This may be a thing but that doesn't make this claim not gross.

[DaughterOfOmega]

I don’t remember the last time I played with DOOM but does she usually get this aggro as town?

You've never met my town meta.

These days I only get aggressive toward people who ask me stupid questions

[DaughterOfOmega]

My ability changes the required vote count for Majority.

This may be a thing but that doesn't make this claim not gross.

my ability is even more gross

[Scotty]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Moonwink, Marmot, DaughterOfOmega, srceenplay, Creature, MartinGG99

Everyone else can die

Yesterday was fucking embarrassing

In my defence and my defence is necessary, I knew my eods would be embarrassing this game, but 5am eods? No thanks.

Well I was thinking about you last night Dunya

I used my ring to shorten the EOD by 6 hours. It should be 11pm your time

Oh. Ok.

And why exactly is that something you felt you needed to claim? Shortening town isn’t exactly townsided

This is honestly absurdly stupid, and makes me mafia read you to such high heaven. I honestly think you are trying to be this stupid as Mafia

Note that I don’t take offense to you calling me stupid, it’s just a game.

However, please throw me a lifeline on how shortening the day- the only time we have to discuss the game- is good. Pretend I’m a wee lad

No group will need the extra 6 hours to decide on a vote.

I've changed the EOD time so that it's EU friendly and allows for much more activity for everyone involved. This is only town friendly, pepega.

Also my ring allowed me to choose someone whose vote will auto kill who they select if no maj is reached.

That actually makes a lot of sense, thanks.

Even more reason to reach a majority today. I’m guessing you’re keeping your target close to your chest, which is fine

Your defensiveness is not something that I always value as a town trait in people, but that aside, I still want to view you as town if you can believe it

[Scotty]

My ability changes the required vote count for Majority.

This may be a thing but that doesn't make this claim not gross.

my ability is even more gross

Wait til you hear my ability and ring

Like a hot dog at a truck stop

[osieorb18]

My ability changes the required vote count for Majority.

This may be a thing but that doesn't make this claim not gross.

my ability is even more gross

Nah, resolving maj-only is fine and messing around with the EoD doesn't bother me too much.

I don’t remember the last time I played with DOOM but does she usually get this aggro as town?

You've never met my town meta.

These days I only get aggressive toward people who ask me stupid questions

*only*???

[osieorb18]

Like a hot dog at a truck stop

Hebrew National All-Beef with mustard, pickles, onions, and celery seed, on a poppyseed bun?

[Scotty]

Town for some fun to heads!
Everyone likes guns
And heads


Players
Porscha (ISO)
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (ISO)
Jackofhearts2005 (ISO)
MartinGG99 (ISO)
MacDougall (ISO)
srceenplay (ISO)
DaughterOfOmega (ISO)
NotAnAxehole (ISO)
Andresvmb (ISO)
Creature (ISO)
hollowkatt (ISO)
Moonwink (ISO)
Marmot (ISO)
DrWilgy (I

[Scotty]

fuck a duck
phone posting is cancer sometimes

[Scotty]

GTH:

Porscha TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME SCUM
Jackofhearts2005 TOWN
MartinGG99 SCUM
MacDougall SCUM
srceenplay TOWN
DaughterOfOmega TOWN
NotAnAxehole SCUM
Andresvmb SCUM
Creature TOWN
hollowkatt SCUM
Moonwink SCUM
Marmot TOWN
DrWilgy TOWN
osieorb18 TOWN
dunya TOWN

Wilgy and Andre are the most null of those gths

Need to flesh out my nook and moon scumreads, because I don’t actually remember why I scum read them

[osieorb18]

I also think NAA is bad, but now knowing with majority in play, it’s important we can all consolidate and agree on a name. Mafia know this and they’re gonna have to eventually bus their teammates too or else they’ll look fishy in this type of setup

According to NAA's claim, eliminating NAA might improve that (we just would have to coordinate that the first vote is most likely town and then protect that person for at least a bit).

[Scotty]

Like a hot dog at a truck stop

Hebrew National All-Beef with mustard, pickles, onions, and celery seed, on a poppyseed bun?

Yeah, that ring exactly

[osieorb18]

After looking at the setup and asking about it, it looks like we could potentially have a majority requirement of ceiling(.51n)+3, which is gross, but hopefully it shouldn't matter or occur.

[Scotty]

I also think NAA is bad, but now knowing with majority in play, it’s important we can all consolidate and agree on a name. Mafia know this and they’re gonna have to eventually bus their teammates too or else they’ll look fishy in this type of setup

According to NAA's claim, eliminating NAA might improve that (we just would have to coordinate that the first vote is most likely town and then protect that person for at least a bit).

Logistically, we could verify it today by just sitting at 9 votes on HK, but in the case that we have another no-lynch, I’ll probably want to jump in a vat of acid. That would out NAA as mafia however.


He has to know that it’s a bad tactic to announce that this early as mafia, so maybe he really is town? And we’re wrong all along

[Scotty]

After looking at the setup and asking about it, it looks like we could potentially have a majority requirement of ceiling(.51n)+3, which is gross, but hopefully it shouldn't matter or occur.

Is that taking into account the possibility of this ring?:
5.
> Target any other player. They are immune to kills this night, and their vote counts as one extra for the following day.

If NAA’s double vote counts toward majority, couldn’t this also if it was successfully used last night?

Either way, DOOM picked someone to decide the lynch today should we not unify all on one.

[Scotty]

I also think NAA is bad, but now knowing with majority in play, it’s important we can all consolidate and agree on a name. Mafia know this and they’re gonna have to eventually bus their teammates too or else they’ll look fishy in this type of setup

According to NAA's claim, eliminating NAA might improve that (we just would have to coordinate that the first vote is most likely town and then protect that person for at least a bit).

True, if we continue to have split ideas about who needs to go, his role will become more and more of a detriment to town, regardless of his alignment

[Scotty]

First 24 hours of the day, and only 6 people have voted.
I don’t want to slip into the same bullshit like yesterday where I get busy the second 24 hours which might happen and then we’re at the mercy of whoever happens to check in.

Just lynch someone today is all I ask

[osieorb18]

I also think NAA is bad, but now knowing with majority in play, it’s important we can all consolidate and agree on a name. Mafia know this and they’re gonna have to eventually bus their teammates too or else they’ll look fishy in this type of setup

According to NAA's claim, eliminating NAA might improve that (we just would have to coordinate that the first vote is most likely town and then protect that person for at least a bit).

Logistically, we could verify it today by just sitting at 9 votes on HK, but in the case that we have another no-lynch, I’ll probably want to jump in a vat of acid. That would out NAA as mafia however.


He has to know that it’s a bad tactic to announce that this early as mafia, so maybe he really is town? And we’re wrong all along

Pretty much anything is claimable within the setup tbh. If anything it bugs me a little that they didn't use and claim it Day 1, though that could be scheduling issues.

After looking at the setup and asking about it, it looks like we could potentially have a majority requirement of ceiling(.51n)+3, which is gross, but hopefully it shouldn't matter or occur.

Is that taking into account the possibility of this ring?:
5.
> Target any other player. They are immune to kills this night, and their vote counts as one extra for the following day.

If NAA’s double vote counts toward majority, couldn’t this also if it was successfully used last night?

Either way, DOOM picked someone to decide the lynch today should we not unify all on one.

Yeah. It's Ring 5, Ring 10, and Gil-Galad.

[Scotty]

Dunya continuing to vote that andres vanity wagon. Someday I’ll have to sit down and talk about what andres did to you during the Vietnam days

[Scotty]

I have strong town vibes from osie and have pretty much all game. If he’s pocketing me he’s doing a-o-k and I’m gonna go for a ride

Zoom zoom

[hollowkatt]

what's up my dudes? work kicked my ass hard today

[DaughterOfOmega]

I don’t remember the last time I played with DOOM but does she usually get this aggro as town?

You've never met my town meta.

These days I only get aggressive toward people who ask me stupid questions

*only*???


[/quote]

You haven't even seen me in forever???

[hollowkatt]

Mac and Nanook feel town by attitude

[DaughterOfOmega]

I don’t remember the last time I played with DOOM but does she usually get this aggro as town?

You've never met my town meta.

These days I only get aggressive toward people who ask me stupid questions

*only*???

You haven't even seen me in forever???
[/quote]

@osieorb18

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Dunya] aubergine

And independently think Mac is towny (although I haven't compiled recent posts).

My reads are entirely flipped from you here.

I town or scum read Scotty off of one silly technicality that he seems to reliably reproduce.

I always floss 4 times a week, but occasionally I don’t

[Scotty]

what's up my dudes? work kicked my ass hard today

Who’s bad?

(No one give him help plz)

[hollowkatt]

Kinda liking what Scotty is doing as well.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Kinda liking what Scotty is doing as well.

We disagree, but that's fine

[hollowkatt]

Kinda liking what Scotty is doing as well.

We disagree, but that's fine

Why do you disagree?

[hollowkatt]

other than he's trying to bait you

[osieorb18]

I don’t remember the last time I played with DOOM but does she usually get this aggro as town?

You've never met my town meta.

These days I only get aggressive toward people who ask me stupid questions

*only*???

You haven't even seen me in forever???

@osieorb18

That's what you think, lol.

Anyways, I didn't really mean anything negative with that, just that I do think you might be underestimating yourself in a few ways. <3