I think Nook fits that vibe tell best of anyone, unironically.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
to expand on this, i think citing someone else’s tell to apply to a current game is kinda villagery
i think if nook was gonna try to mislunch c4 as a wolf he probably comes up with something better than vibe tell, especially because c4 is pretty v read
reminds me of a villagery post c4 made D1 actually
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 1)
this one
i think mapping new people onto players you know well is >rand v, especially because he’s stuck with the NAA v read even when he easily could have dropped it
(caveat that if NAA is a wolf the second part holds less weight but first part is still true)
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
So I can have some light reading on my bus ride home, why was NAA's EoD villagery?
I dont even know what to feel about him, I just don't really get why he's now a town read.
I dont even know what to feel about him, I just don't really get why he's now a town read.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
jay explained itMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:15 pm So I can have some light reading on my bus ride home, why was NAA's EoD villagery?
I dont even know what to feel about him, I just don't really get why he's now a town read.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
@Master Radishes here
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:09 pmFleabag is the closest analog I can find off-hand. I have forgotten so much about recent games.Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:50 pmcan you link me a game you have in mind? or just point me to itJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:28 pmI think NAA might have had the most town EOD of any player. That includes the lead-up to the elimination and the response to Alison's troll. Everything about that sequence I have seen from him before in prior town games.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:31 pmI'm referring to a specific thing, e.g. treatment of a mass-suspect Day 1 that NAA himself town reads (in that game, sig). It's not a perfect comparison. There may be a better example, but I cannot remember specifically. Beyond just metagaming though, I think NAA handled the end of this Day 1 the way I expect him to handle it if he becomes confident about Alison being town (as she makes her final contributions over the last hour) and the momentum still carries through her being chopped despite him.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
i don’t agree though and think NAA was way villagerier in the game jay cited both D1 and D2
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
I felt his EoD was a lot of telling rather than showing. He said he tried to help Alison but I'm not sure he showed it.
He is tonally similar to a recent town game I played with him. But tone reads are unreliable.
He is tonally similar to a recent town game I played with him. But tone reads are unreliable.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
i agree with the first partMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:28 pm I felt his EoD was a lot of telling rather than showing. He said he tried to help Alison but I'm not sure he showed it.
He is tonally similar to a recent town game I played with him. But tone reads are unreliable.
i remember lol’ing at him saying “well i tried”
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
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Okay.
Okay.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
To me, this feels like a game where we probably shouldn't be relying mostly upon the kinds reads that technically apply to anyone -- does this person look classically town to me, and how much have they done? Otherwise very few living players meet the town standard and the game is left to chance (we'd have to choose correctly among a big pile of suspects). We're in kind of a shitty spot where it feels necessary to rely on gut judgments, even those we struggle to describe, as a primary tool. That's where I've been today with my NAA town read. I tried to put myself there with Wilgy but couldn't do it. I think I can get there with Dizzy. I'm not there with MR. I'm not there with Nanook. I'm there with Mac. I'm there with c4. I'm there with Hally.
I could be wrong about NAA. I cannot possibly claim to be confident. But I have felt the feel for him when it was most critical to feel the feel.
I could be wrong about NAA. I cannot possibly claim to be confident. But I have felt the feel for him when it was most critical to feel the feel.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Agreed.
If a broader consensus leaves us with this suspect pool:
DrWilgy
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Nanook
NAA
Who are the first two you (anyone reading) remove from consideration?
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
dizzy and maybe nookJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:25 pmAgreed.
If a broader consensus leaves us with this suspect pool:
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Master Radishes
Nanook
NAA
Who are the first two you (anyone reading) remove from consideration?
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
honestly though i wouldn’t even be that surprised if dizzy is a wolf but it’s kinda impossible to get there when half the game is not really playing so i feel like i almost have to trust him
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Wilgy obviously town tbh.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Kill MR, Dizzy, Nanook... The order doesn't matter. Killing Alison D1 was a travesty.
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Yep. That's where I end up removing Dizzy and NAA, but with a similar feeling of
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
I think this game is actually really easy.
There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.
There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.
If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.
There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.
There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.
If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Kill MR if Mafia - > Nanook
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Kill MR if Town -> Dizzy if Mafia -> Mac
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Easy decision tree, guaranteed win.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
It's an interesting thought, and I hadn't construed things in that way. But it is true that their interaction is not what I am used to seeing from Nanook and Mac.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
You're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.
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I find it suspicious. Nanook is not a player I expect to see reference anyone else's methods to justify his own reads, save maybe a very small 451 shortlist. Nanook gets reads the Nanook way, not the IAWY way.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
But why is there a difference check?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:50 pmYou're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
And what's your reasoning for me being scummy?
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@DrWilgy I would love to be thoroughly licked by your unique intuitions.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Because likely only one of you can be mafia... And at least one of you MUST be mafia.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:12 pmBut why is there a difference check?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:50 pmYou're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
You should have argued with the ghost before she became a ghost.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
ButNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 pmBecause likely only one of you can be mafia... And at least one of you MUST be mafia.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:12 pmBut why is there a difference check?NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:50 pmYou're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.
and hear me out here
why?
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Alison had a case. A poor one, but a case.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 pmYou should have argued with the ghost before she became a ghost.
What's yours?
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Do you believe this is going to help?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:04 pmAlison had a case. A poor one, but a case.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 pmYou should have argued with the ghost before she became a ghost.
What's yours?
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
I borrow peoples reads on occasionJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:57 pmI find it suspicious. Nanook is not a player I expect to see reference anyone else's methods to justify his own reads, save maybe a very small 451 shortlist. Nanook gets reads the Nanook way, not the IAWY way.
Usually I dont say I am tho, tbf
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
Do I...believe having someone explain why they scumread another player is going to help?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:18 pmDo you believe this is going to help?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:04 pmAlison had a case. A poor one, but a case.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 pmYou should have argued with the ghost before she became a ghost.
What's yours?
Yes. Yes I do.
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Re: Highway Heist (Day 2)
can dizzy be mafia with not me cuz that guy is scummy as fekNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm I think this game is actually really easy.
There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.
There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.
If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.