RPG Mafia MAFIA WIN

[Syn]

Can like any of you stop acting scummy for 2 seconds? It'll make finding scum a lot easier.
Unless I am just the only town posting right now, in which case I feel like Town already lost from inactivity.

Lost wolf claim.

[Marmot]

I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.

Scotty and HK are probably mafia though so that's fun.

Dolby (9)

Already too much of a tryhard

Well I am mostly bothered by the fact he seems to root for TRs badly and also liking that Syn's vote. I just don't wanna burry him yet because of recent bad experiences but yeah. lower null on Dolby.

HK and you are my only TRs so far. (rest is null really, this game is starting slowly)

Why is everyone dual-reading HK and Scotty like this?

To me this appeared engineered to deflect suspicion off HK and Scotty.

How would talking about those two deflect attention from them?

Also, it's not like those were all scumreads. One of them is a townread of both of them, which is why I found the pairing all the more curious. The reason I brought them up was because I had a slight tinfoil that the scum team planned to push a hk-scotty pairing from different angles, but realized it was a far-fetched idea so I didn't mention it originally.

[Scotty]

I'm down to kill Scotty D1 if he doesn't town tell before EoD.

I think you are quite honest with your suspicion, and don’t scum read you for it.

However.

I do entreat you to look towards secondary or even tertiary suspects. Hypothetically, if I were off the table today, what is your current other wolf suspects? You said you’d correctly guess HK. Where you at with him?

[dunya]

I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.

Scotty and HK are probably mafia though so that's fun.

Dolby (9)

Already too much of a tryhard

Well I am mostly bothered by the fact he seems to root for TRs badly and also liking that Syn's vote. I just don't wanna burry him yet because of recent bad experiences but yeah. lower null on Dolby.

HK and you are my only TRs so far. (rest is null really, this game is starting slowly)

Why is everyone dual-reading HK and Scotty like this?

To me this appeared engineered to deflect suspicion off HK and Scotty.

Is it engineered if it's... right?

Deflecting is not a thing Town do.

i think you're misinterpreting what we're doing then, because i sure as hell was not "deflecting" anything ;p

[hollowkatt]

I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline

correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.

this line of questioning is coming off as opportunistic.

Like, how am I supposed to answer this? You don’t label a “white” rock as an “absence of black” rock.

Why are you town?

because I'm far too carefree and unconcerned with how I appear to be a wolf. I think you can ask most of the people who've played with me before and they'll tell you that HK can appear carefree as a wolf but that generally speaking my wolf game I struggle to get into games, make weird posts early trying to appear as if I don't care/am joking, and that I'm caught incredibly early or not at all.

Is this a joke?

I think it's an accurate assessment of my early game wolf play

Oh, okay. You're wrong. Now I get to think about why you'd lie about your meta in a game with people who know it.

I feel ignored and unloved without a wagon.

[dunya]

Dunya
3
30%
Voters: Scotty, Urist, Le petit poussin

with LP also scum reading me



the thread state at this moment at time for my notes.

[LinearPoint]

I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.

Scotty and HK are probably mafia though so that's fun.

Dolby (9)

Already too much of a tryhard

Well I am mostly bothered by the fact he seems to root for TRs badly and also liking that Syn's vote. I just don't wanna burry him yet because of recent bad experiences but yeah. lower null on Dolby.

HK and you are my only TRs so far. (rest is null really, this game is starting slowly)

Why is everyone dual-reading HK and Scotty like this?

To me this appeared engineered to deflect suspicion off HK and Scotty.

How would talking about those two deflect attention from them?

Also, it's not like those were all scumreads. One of them is a townread of both of them, which is why I found the pairing all the more curious. The reason I brought them up was because I had a slight tinfoil that the scum team planned to push a hk-scotty pairing from different angles, but realized it was a far-fetched idea so I didn't mention it originally.

OK my interpretation might be wrong.

OR

I can tinfoil furhter and view Dyuna saying the exact same defense for you as you two being wolfbuddies because that actualyl makes sense.

[Scotty]

Dunia is town, btw.

Shhhh, I'm waiting for scotty to be opportunistic.

Got me!

I admit to jumping right on the back of your stallion, and happen to agree with your suspicion of dunya

Are you now saying she’s not sus?

[LinearPoint]

Dunya
3
30%
Voters: Scotty, Urist, Le petit poussin

with LP also scum reading me



the thread state at this moment at time for my notes.

You take notes?

[Syn]

Postcount reads and w/w reads less than a day into D1. You love to see it.

[dunya]

i've never seen my username butchered so badly and i LOVE IT for real lol

[Marmot]

Can like any of you stop acting scummy for 2 seconds? It'll make finding scum a lot easier.
Unless I am just the only town posting right now, in which case I feel like Town already lost from inactivity.

I want to offer a serious response to this post, but I was enjoying the threadstate, so I'll just respond with no.

[LinearPoint]

No, I'm sorry. Forgive me for my dyslexia.

[dunya]

Dunya
3
30%
Voters: Scotty, Urist, Le petit poussin

with LP also scum reading me



the thread state at this moment at time for my notes.

You take notes?

only when i feel like try harding

[hollowkatt]

Postcount reads and w/w reads less than a day into D1. You love to see it.

do you think that's indicative of wolves struggling to find traction in the game or town flailing around looking for wolves?

I'm inclined to think it's the former tbh. Like I do think several people who are often early game fodder have done good work in showing themselves to be town, which cuts off "easy lines" for wolves to push on.

[LinearPoint]

Can like any of you stop acting scummy for 2 seconds? It'll make finding scum a lot easier.
Unless I am just the only town posting right now, in which case I feel like Town already lost from inactivity.

I want to offer a serious response to this post, but I was enjoying the threadstate, so I'll just respond with no.

OK, get out of here, you're townie for now.
Maybe HK is the scum pushing Scotty atm.

[Marmot]

Dunya
3
30%
Voters: Scotty, Urist, Le petit poussin

with LP also scum reading me



the thread state at this moment at time for my notes.

You take notes?

Oh fuck.

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

[Syn]

Dunya
3
30%
Voters: Scotty, Urist, Le petit poussin

with LP also scum reading me



the thread state at this moment at time for my notes.

You take notes?

only when i feel like try harding

[dunya]

No, I'm sorry. Forgive me for my dyslexia.

noooooooooooooo please i didn't mean to offend you, i really like that way to type my name cos at first i wasnt sure if you were talking about dya or me.

no worries at all, i don't mind!!

[Syn]

Postcount reads and w/w reads less than a day into D1. You love to see it.

do you think that's indicative of wolves struggling to find traction in the game or town flailing around looking for wolves?

I'm inclined to think it's the former tbh. Like I do think several people who are often early game fodder have done good work in showing themselves to be town, which cuts off "easy lines" for wolves to push on.

I'm skeptical it would be so easy.

[Syn]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

Hmmmmmm.

[dunya]

beautiful wagon. perhaps we can temp @MacDougall to hop on a dunya d1 opportunity. they only appear once every 5 years

[Marmot]

The last time dunya resorted to her "notes" on Day 1 was in Magic the Gathering Mafia about a year ago.

i could go for ted for a deflated wim but i liked his answer to urist on LC (which was one of my biggest gripes) and genuinely believe he was confused on the mana so i dont feel like he's the right d1 yeet.

Do you have a take on Made?


[VOTE: Made] aubergine

I'm coming back here because I feel more confident on this one then ted being a hit.

my notes read "opportunistic" "sounds pretty genuine" "is he doing wiofm" "bad mana plan"

lol

dunia was a wolf in this game.

[Scotty]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

If I’m wolf, I seem to have a history of going down in flames D1 or D27, no in between. If I were wolf, I would expect my partners to also bus me to hell and back.

It’s just that in this case, I have no partners. it’s really enlightening to be the target because it’s up to me to wade through cases on me and check for bullshit.

Like NAA. I think he’s flouting- while bullshit in fairness- a genuine ‘read’ of me being guilty for smiling too much or some shit. To other dogs, smiling is a form of aggression, so, I get it.

I feel like more of a free agent that way, no one fluffing my pillows or pouring my milk in my cornflakes for me

[Marmot]

(To be clear, the above quote is from that game, not from this one)

[dunya]

The last time dunya resorted to her "notes" on Day 1 was in Magic the Gathering Mafia about a year ago.

i could go for ted for a deflated wim but i liked his answer to urist on LC (which was one of my biggest gripes) and genuinely believe he was confused on the mana so i dont feel like he's the right d1 yeet.

Do you have a take on Made?


[VOTE: Made] aubergine

I'm coming back here because I feel more confident on this one then ted being a hit.

my notes read "opportunistic" "sounds pretty genuine" "is he doing wiofm" "bad mana plan"

lol

dunia was a wolf in this game.

that's fair, but that doesn't means i don't take notes when i try hard as town too.

[Scotty]

Actually tho…I’m feeling your posts this game, while I agree with some of the wolf reads, come off as…I dunno. Partial. You have a lot of outs here. 5 wolves to 8 town is..just enough.

I can’t put my finger on it

what do you mean my list comes off as partial?

I couldn’t put my finger on it. Partial wasn’t the right word. Whimsy? Your posts are more whimsy and you look like you and suspicion is like oil and water

[Marmot]

This is slightly different I guess. In this case, dunia looks to be taking notes in the thread, but in that case, she was referring to her own notes outside the game thread.

[dunya]

remember: this is also a hammer game, takes 9 to hammer me today.

[Scotty]

but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

i do not understand the mind gymnastics to get there.

Marmot hard defending Scotty all game.
Scotty gets a slight bit of sus from Syn.
Marmot instantly switches read on Scotty.

You're also not helping to dissuade me that you are also Mafia.
I'm not dumb. I know you only posted this to hope that I stop pushing you in favor of Scotty.

This is a correct take, especially how I always push for my teammates to throw me under the bus for cred if I get hot.

[Marmot]

scotty is always hot

[Scotty]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

In a hammer game? All it takes is momentum, you cosine

[dunya]

Actually tho…I’m feeling your posts this game, while I agree with some of the wolf reads, come off as…I dunno. Partial. You have a lot of outs here. 5 wolves to 8 town is..just enough.

I can’t put my finger on it

what do you mean my list comes off as partial?

I couldn’t put my finger on it. Partial wasn’t the right word. Whimsy? Your posts are more whimsy and you look like you and suspicion is like oil and water

which of my suspicions seem whimsy to you exactly?

i would like to solidify them to the thread if it helps read me better.

[dunya]

actually, please iso me in magic the gathering and if you see any similarities to my game here, yeet me immediately (i havent yet isod myself there, but i remember it being one of the worst times in my life lmao)

[dunya]

actually, please iso me in magic the gathering and if you see any similarities to my game here, yeet me immediately (i havent yet isod myself there, but i remember it being one of the worst times in my life lmao)

games*

times was a freudian slip

[Syn]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

In a hammer game? All it takes is momentum, you cosine

Nobody on TS is going to hammer D1. That only happens on CFC, and on D2.

[LinearPoint]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

In a hammer game? All it takes is momentum, you cosine

Nobody on TS is going to hammer D1. That only happens on CFC, and on D2.

Objectively wrong.
NAA is in this game.

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

this seems like a fun place to push

Scotty why aren't you a wolf?

I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline

correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.

this line of questioning is coming off as opportunistic.

Like, how am I supposed to answer this? You don’t label a “white” rock as an “absence of black” rock.

Why are you town?

because I'm far too carefree and unconcerned with how I appear to be a wolf. I think you can ask most of the people who've played with me before and they'll tell you that HK can appear carefree as a wolf but that generally speaking my wolf game I struggle to get into games, make weird posts early trying to appear as if I don't care/am joking, and that I'm caught incredibly early or not at all.

That and unless you're going to argue I have TMI finding townies is ++ev for town here

I already feel like you’re playing more like a Stratocaster and less like a harpsichord this game than our last scum game, so you cool.

[hollowkatt]

Postcount reads and w/w reads less than a day into D1. You love to see it.

do you think that's indicative of wolves struggling to find traction in the game or town flailing around looking for wolves?

I'm inclined to think it's the former tbh. Like I do think several people who are often early game fodder have done good work in showing themselves to be town, which cuts off "easy lines" for wolves to push on.

I'm skeptical it would be so easy.

meh sometimes it's easy

[Syn]

(To be clear, the above quote is from that game, not from this one)

Marmot, how do you have such a grasp on Dunia's posting history that not only do you know she's only mentioned notes once, but it was specifically in a game that happened a full year ago?

[Syn]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

In a hammer game? All it takes is momentum, you cosine

Nobody on TS is going to hammer D1. That only happens on CFC, and on D2.

Objectively wrong.
NAA is in this game.

NAA doesn't have 9 votes.

[dunya]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

In a hammer game? All it takes is momentum, you cosine

Nobody on TS is going to hammer D1. That only happens on CFC, and on D2.

i'd like to hammer you

[hollowkatt]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

In a hammer game? All it takes is momentum, you cosine

Nobody on TS is going to hammer D1. That only happens on CFC, and on D2.

don't you have to drop a fake red check first?

[Syn]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

this seems like a fun place to push

Scotty why aren't you a wolf?

I’ve been domesticated over many millennia and I’m probably a better friend than a cat ever will be, you…feline

correct on an evolutionary scale. But I meant this game specifically.

this line of questioning is coming off as opportunistic.

Like, how am I supposed to answer this? You don’t label a “white” rock as an “absence of black” rock.

Why are you town?

because I'm far too carefree and unconcerned with how I appear to be a wolf. I think you can ask most of the people who've played with me before and they'll tell you that HK can appear carefree as a wolf but that generally speaking my wolf game I struggle to get into games, make weird posts early trying to appear as if I don't care/am joking, and that I'm caught incredibly early or not at all.

That and unless you're going to argue I have TMI finding townies is ++ev for town here

I already feel like you’re playing more like a Stratocaster and less like a harpsichord this game than our last scum game, so you cool.

lol

[Syn]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

In a hammer game? All it takes is momentum, you cosine

Nobody on TS is going to hammer D1. That only happens on CFC, and on D2.

don't you have to drop a fake red check first?

It's on the agenda, don't worry.

[dunya]

(To be clear, the above quote is from that game, not from this one)

Marmot, how do you have such a grasp on Dunia's posting history that not only do you know she's only mentioned notes once, but it was specifically in a game that happened a full year ago?

tbf, the quote referenced was in direct reply to marmot in that game.

also search is your friend.

[Syn]

Kind of surprised the last few pages Syn has been looking far less fake than their early posts.
On the bright side Dyuna hasn't said a word they genuinely believe yet.

I'd have to reread Scotty since my main suspicion was Syn was bussing him.
The only thing giving slight pause right now is the lack of anyone advocating to save him.
Also Marmot looks a bit bad for their push on Scotty since it is just blatantly sheeping Syn after Townreading Scotty. Plus they also questioned why people were sussing Scotty. So if there is a Mafia on that wagon right now I think it's fairly obvious it's Marmot. This is slightly less likely if Scotty is Town though. but Mafia!Scotty has a 100% chance of Mafia!Marmot.

Also, it's less than 24 hours into D1. Nobody has to advocate to save him. The wagon will likely dissipate by itself by the time it matters. Non-newbie wolves won't associate themselves so closely so early in the game.

In a hammer game? All it takes is momentum, you cosine

Nobody on TS is going to hammer D1. That only happens on CFC, and on D2.

i'd like to hammer you

[Scotty]

Also, Scotty is mafia until he does his town tell multiple times. There's something that he does repeatedly & reliably as town that he NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER has done repeatedly as mafia based on my analysis of his games. So I'm waiting for the trust tell, I'm good with killing him up until that point.

Also am I following right that your read comes from the guilty baseline and I have to work to ingratiate myself to a town level?

Is that how you always make your reads in games?

It depends on the read. If someone has a town tell, then they are guilty until proven town, if someone has a mafia tell, then they are town until proven mafia. This is just, common sense as to how town tells & mafia tells work - the absence of the tell means your baseline is the opposite.

That actually makes sense.

I’ll leave you to it.

However, your confidence of my towntell of something I do “every game” I’m town is concerning, because that means you’ve spent far too long on my ever evolving playstyle over the years.

Meta reads are overrated

If meta reads are overrated, then I suggest you prove that right by identifying what I'm meta reading you on and make me read you incorrectly most of the time. So far I'm 100% with this meta.

Nice try Nicholas Cage. You’ll never get your grubby hands on the Declaration of Independence

[Syn]

(To be clear, the above quote is from that game, not from this one)

Marmot, how do you have such a grasp on Dunia's posting history that not only do you know she's only mentioned notes once, but it was specifically in a game that happened a full year ago?

tbf, the quote referenced was in direct reply to marmot in that game.

also search is your friend.

Are people here searching keywords from posts and comparing to previous hits? Insane.

[Syn]

Now I want to check your MU games and see if you use notes there.