RPG Mafia MAFIA WIN

[TonyStarkPrime]

mac/creature/dunya/scotty i won't be taking questions at this time

[Syn]

Oh, TSP moved to Scotty

[dyachei]

mac/creature/dunya/scotty i won't be taking questions at this time

I have a question

[Syn]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

swag

[Urist]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

hmm. i think i'm affected by recency bias. he was pretty miserable in his scum chat in rings of power and made it abundantly clear he hates playing scum in mech-heavy setups. i didn't consider that he might just be grumpy in general.

[Urist]

posting that ^ in case other people are feeling the same way

[hollowkatt]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

hmm. i think i'm affected by recency bias. he was pretty miserable in his scum chat in rings of power and made it abundantly clear he hates playing scum in mech-heavy setups. i didn't consider that he might just be grumpy in general.

I know. I was there.
I was also in the amrock discord game and creature was pretty similar there to what he is here, and not similar there (or here) to what he was in wolf chat in Rings.
Maybe it's a lazy read but it's one I'm comfortable making

[dunya]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

[NotAnAxehole]

W/W wagons not impossible here.

[hollowkatt]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

I'm lazy, what are the cliff notes?

[hollowkatt]

as in fundamental differences/similarities

[Syn]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

(Sorry, Creature) He was aimless and disconnected in Panda Mafia, and he's aimless and disconnected here. Was he materially different in LOTR?

(I'm not arguing against your point, I just don't want to actually go check myself )

[Syn]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

I'm lazy, what are the cliff notes?

how dare you

[Syn]

I am obtaining The Fear regarding HK

[Syn]

The last time he and I vibed in posts so closely and didn't clash, it was in god damn Bluey

[hollowkatt]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

I'm lazy, what are the cliff notes?

how dare you

pretty easily tbh

[hollowkatt]

The last time he and I vibed in posts so closely and didn't clash, it was in god damn Bluey

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I think these are good wagons and they're both scummy but just due to wagon formation, I don't think these are w/w wagons.

[dunya]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

(Sorry, Creature) He was aimless and disconnected in Panda Mafia, and he's aimless and disconnected here. Was he materially different in LOTR?

(I'm not arguing against your point, I just don't want to actually go check myself )

the difference is drive and defeatist attitude imo, that's the distinction between his town and scum games.

[dunya]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I think these are good wagons and they're both scummy but just due to wagon formation, I don't think these are w/w wagons.

and you think scotty is more likely scum than creature because..?

[dunya]

mac/creature/dunya/scotty i won't be taking questions at this time

[hollowkatt]

real talk though Syn why would I try pocketing you again when I know you're smarter than that and what worked last time isn't going to work this time.

[hollowkatt]

oh, dunya town.

[Scotty]

Yeah, going to try to spot read here and there but work ends near EoD for me so I'll probably just be behind afew hundred posts today. If I do read them I likely won't be able to parse them completely.

In this wagon state, I'm likely to save Scotty. We were melding earlier and what I've seen from creature doesn't feel like his lazy t, more like rand w.

Urist and LP being on scotty makes me spooked.

My gut read of Wolfmot has faded. Was probably just knee jerk, but Dunya and Marmot being on Creature fills me with doubt.

Someone tell me as to why I'm wrong on Scotty. Like what's the solid case?

Still think there's a W in Urist/Dunya.

NAA has a solid tell on scotty and is saying he's scum.

I'm ngl i would not trust NAA having a "solid tell" to be more than 50% accurate

idk, town NAA has been pretty fire lately.

Unfortunately NAA this game is either
A) not Town
Or
B) water

[dunya]

real talk though Syn why would I try pocketing you again when I know you're smarter than that and what worked last time isn't going to work this time.

i believe you believe this post

[Scotty]

scotty mostly because of his attitude toward LP and Dolby (LP selectively hitting hard on HK/Syn is wolfy) and his TWTBAW opener.

lol what about that was towny

Like, I view his approach and attitude as not really towny

Honestly Scotty's post #169 is kinda twtbaw in the sense that I kinda feel that scum in general would rather take the "I was wondering why you're sussing a 0 poster" rather than "I was wondering if you had a meta read" which just looks worse than applied to a 0 poster

The scumreads on me for dinking around are kinda yikes tbh. Like yeah i had 9 posts which were basically "CFC town" but still

I like some of Marmot's thoughts before post 200

I know the reads are independent, it's just intriguing that multiple people mentioned those two players in the same breath without being related.

Of the 4 high posters (Syn, hk, Scotty, petit), I only TR petit and Scotty atm. I asked Mac to expound on his hk read, but I agree that he does look wolfy. I don't see what Syn has done to deserve a TR, but hk gave him one pretty quickly.

That is a bit of TMI eh

just like

What?

this does not hold up

CFC gang

Man I don't like any of anyones SRs so far

I read 249 and am willing to just lock in an HK townread. He also follows up and votes Scotty which imo is a good look at the time at least

idk though I look at Scotty and kinda see maybe town super proud of their general ability to play at points.

I unironically think that CFC gang is pure or contains at most one mafia

Jumping onto this train so late is pretty wolfy, mang.

no, bad

Syn posts a bit and I'm still at Syn being town but not as strongly

Also I generally agree with him on Scotty so yeah

Scotty then turns around and posts this and I go back to thinking the indignation of it is maybe towny

oh ffs you’re all goblins. Don’t D1 me again please. I’m over it. Kill me D2 at least

Random thought, LP is not yet as obvtown as in TF2 mafia

I think my hot take is NAA slightly v but not really invested in it. Kinda just feels like he can be town whenever I see his posts

Dolby will never be lynched D1, now that I think of it.

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

This is an omgus vote because I can’t realistically believe that a town Syn is pushing me so hard on actual fake news, and I hate to use that term.

What?

Just what?

why you making my read on you a rollercoaster man

Still don't get why people think I was distinctly wolfy tbh lol

@ urist - w
@ Dolby - w
@ DrWilgy - w
@ Le petit poussin - w
@ LinearPoint - w

havent posted yet or made one nai post:
@ Jackofhearts2005 - ?
@ sig - ?
@ TonyStarkPrime - ?
@ Creature - ?

i feel very good about these town reads:
@ dyachei - t
@ hollowkatt -t
@ MacDougall - t
@ Marmot- t
@ NotAnAxehole- t
@ Scotty - t
@ syn - t

only one in wolf reads i could go back on is urist atm, but yolo. that poopoo head has caused me e m o t i o n a l damage. ;p

You went from misrepresenting me to including me with all the folks I ve been sussing up to this point.

[VOTE: dunia] aubergine

Speaking about disgust

I actually kinda lowkey think that the readslist is weird bc me/urist/wilgy I think are all LHF for this game but also the response is kinda ??? I don't think Rask scumread me really? Or NAA or Wilgy?

Dunia is town, btw.

Shhhh, I'm waiting for scotty to be opportunistic.

town

Scotty p#362 actually lowkey relatable. Yes I know this is whack when I call that Marmot post town, w/e

Yeah I'm still not comfortable with LP. May be maf

I'm at post 400. Parts of me think tat Scotty is and isn't a hit, but then he gets indignant about the thread's treament of him and honestly I can't help but think he's town

[VOTE: Linearpoint] aubergine

I'll be back after lunch

Don’t hVe time to comment individually to your points, but I like this input from you at least. Towny vibes.

Plus I already think you were sitting as a mischop for half the day. If I’m right about LP, you’re spewed town anyway.

[hollowkatt]

real talk though Syn why would I try pocketing you again when I know you're smarter than that and what worked last time isn't going to work this time.

i believe you believe this post

what can I say, Syn too good for me

[Scotty]

Yeah, going to try to spot read here and there but work ends near EoD for me so I'll probably just be behind afew hundred posts today. If I do read them I likely won't be able to parse them completely.

In this wagon state, I'm likely to save Scotty. We were melding earlier and what I've seen from creature doesn't feel like his lazy t, more like rand w.

Urist and LP being on scotty makes me spooked.

My gut read of Wolfmot has faded. Was probably just knee jerk, but Dunya and Marmot being on Creature fills me with doubt.

Someone tell me as to why I'm wrong on Scotty. Like what's the solid case?

Still think there's a W in Urist/Dunya.

NAA has a solid tell on scotty and is saying he's scum.

I'm ngl i would not trust NAA having a "solid tell" to be more than 50% accurate

even 50% accurate is still way better than rand sooo

I feel like John proctor and you’re just a mindless townsperson happy to see my lamp body

[Scotty]

Limp

[hollowkatt]

I'm here for lamp

[Syn]

real talk though Syn why would I try pocketing you again when I know you're smarter than that and what worked last time isn't going to work this time.

haha this dude be calling me smart what a joker

[Syn]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

(Sorry, Creature) He was aimless and disconnected in Panda Mafia, and he's aimless and disconnected here. Was he materially different in LOTR?

(I'm not arguing against your point, I just don't want to actually go check myself )

the difference is drive and defeatist attitude imo, that's the distinction between his town and scum games.

but there's no drive in the town games either tho

[dyachei]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

(Sorry, Creature) He was aimless and disconnected in Panda Mafia, and he's aimless and disconnected here. Was he materially different in LOTR?

(I'm not arguing against your point, I just don't want to actually go check myself )

the difference is drive and defeatist attitude imo, that's the distinction between his town and scum games.

but there's no drive in the town games either tho

but there are reads. and like...pushes

[Syn]

I love (to see) lamp (body)

[dunya]

[dunya]

Creature sounds like he's excited to sign up for games and then realizes that signing up means having to play.
I think this makes creature town.

I am largely in agreement with this. Creature is playing as he has in every other TS game. I don't understand what makes this time wolfy compared to the town games.

iso him in panda mafia then iso him in LOTR and tell me you don't see a difference

(Sorry, Creature) He was aimless and disconnected in Panda Mafia, and he's aimless and disconnected here. Was he materially different in LOTR?

(I'm not arguing against your point, I just don't want to actually go check myself )

the difference is drive and defeatist attitude imo, that's the distinction between his town and scum games.

but there's no drive in the town games either tho

but there are reads. and like...pushes

yes, and w!creature retreats in his shell at any sight of suspicion, very much like he's done here.

[MacDougall]

Someone look at any of TSP’s 10 posts in his iso and tell me he looks town.

he looks very town probably like if you were to rank his games by how towny he looks this would be around 85th percentile

no man lol, you look downright wolfy... like this is the only post that i even struggle to see you making as a wolf

scum post

no actually. not a scum post.

[MacDougall]

mac/creature/dunya/scotty i won't be taking questions at this time

I'm sorry what is this cuz it sure isn't anyone's legit wolf team

[hollowkatt]

the case on creature is literally "he is doing his wolf meta of retreating into his shell when suspected"?
ngl that's a really weak reason to chop anyone and the only day you can get away with that is D1 so I'm not at all surprised really.

[Scotty]

OK, I'm going to post my Scotty read.

Each of these numbers corresponds to what I think about a recent Scotty game:

184.794668
68.86444669
106.2587678
200.3094828
73.20672036

He was mafia in 2 of these, town in 2 of these, and one of the numbers corresponds to the current game. Yes... It's a math read... And I'm not fully explaining, but now you have the answer, you can backtrack it to figure out what the read is.

I swear to god if I get mislynched because you are using some algorithm from 4 GAMES over the course of my 80 game career instead of my actual gameplay THIS GAME im going to be pissed. The next game we play together I am patently going to pull out my metaread on you and there’s simply nothing you can do to defend against it.

I think if I stew on it, I’m more pissed at the fact that others are just nodding along to this and voting alongside you. You wanna talk about low hanging fruit? I am being suspected for apparently not doing something that I did in your small sample size.

Where are we left when I flip town? “Oops, sorry scotty. Guess it’s just something to add to the data and increase the sample size for next time”

No. Fuck that.

Leave me alive so I can instead get thousand cutted tonite by 5 of you and not waste a day lynch on this garbage

[Scotty]

I don't really have a good idea of where I am at everyone else. I might be tempted to sheep NAA on Scotty because he seems to be accurate at reading Scotty.

I hope you die

(In the game)

[dunya]

the case on creature is literally "he is doing his wolf meta of retreating into his shell when suspected"?
ngl that's a really weak reason to chop anyone and the only day you can get away with that is D1 so I'm not at all surprised really.

no that's not just the case.

before you poop on it, read up or offer something more substantial!

[Scotty]

OK, I'm going to post my Scotty read.

Each of these numbers corresponds to what I think about a recent Scotty game:

184.794668
68.86444669
106.2587678
200.3094828
73.20672036

He was mafia in 2 of these, town in 2 of these, and one of the numbers corresponds to the current game. Yes... It's a math read... And I'm not fully explaining, but now you have the answer, you can backtrack it to figure out what the read is.

Number of characters per post?

if this is the case then this game is 106. which... considering the other numbers, i don't know why naa would be confident about that.

Looks like a fair tell, but meh.

YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS

[dunya]

Hey @dunya ive been trying to look through your past games on the site. I’ll do the legwork, but can you give me some recent games you were bad? Having trouble finding them

she's bad in every game haha GOTTEM

counterpoint:

she's bad. period.

[dunya]

@Scotty did you read my scum game?

[Scotty]

fwiw I'm on board with scotty wolf but I think that implicates creature and I'm not happy about that

You can die too

[hollowkatt]

the case on creature is literally "he is doing his wolf meta of retreating into his shell when suspected"?
ngl that's a really weak reason to chop anyone and the only day you can get away with that is D1 so I'm not at all surprised really.

no that's not just the case.

before you poop on it, read up or offer something more substantial!

that seems to be what people are discussing as the case. If there's more meat on the bone there I haven't seen it yet.

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok I'm on board

[TonyStarkPrime]

v/v wagons

[Scotty]

the case on creature is literally "he is doing his wolf meta of retreating into his shell when suspected"?
ngl that's a really weak reason to chop anyone and the only day you can get away with that is D1 so I'm not at all surprised really.

Is that worse than the train of people ready to vote me because “he hasn’t done this towntell I think he always does on the 4 games I’ve studied?”

I’m here. I’m solving. Or trying to. Creature. Isn’t.