RPG Mafia MAFIA WIN

[hollowkatt]

I'm going to pretend Scotty isn't naked mafia today.

that would be a good idea given that scotty is town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Like an unsurprised face.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Dunya] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

thanks jack... I think

[Jackofhearts2005]

is the case on dunya as simple as i think it is? My understanding is she's a really good wolf and i don't think she'd get caught that easily

Maybe she’s out of practice.

[NotAnAxehole]

I've just skimmed Mac's iso:

I think:

Most likely to be mafia in orange

Players higher on the list are more likely to be mafia with people who are low on the list / not on the list.

LPP
TSP
Urist
Scotty
HK
Syn
LP
Dolby
Marmot


Players not really mentioned / not in the above ranking:
Sig, Jack, Dya, DrWilgy

Why do you wolf read me NAA?

Like is this something you've suddenly come to?

I town read you, but I'm giving some respect to Mac's ISO

[Jackofhearts2005]

thanks jack... I think

It was more that voting for Scotty tells me Dunya had 3 votes and Scotty had none. I scumread them roughly equally. I guess wolf Dunya with tmi on town Scotty is a little more likely than wolf Scotty pockets town Dunya.

I do think you’re town fwiw

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Lol fakeout

[Jackofhearts2005]

Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.

why would I die N1 lol

You're just objectively the most townie person with 0 people scum reading you.
Killing you is a no brainer since there is 0 chance you survive night 1.
Anything else is just not worth it from the Mafia's PoV if you're Town.

that's hilarious

You, Scotty, and Jack scum read me, and I have incredibly little cachet

I was hooting and hollering for Scotty or Jack wagons and neither happened, everyone just went on their merry way to dumptrucking Creature and a flash wagon attempt on Dunia

For the record, I did scumread Syn so this line of reasoning is correct but I no longer scumread Syn.

[TonyStarkPrime]

wait scotty werent you wolf reading dunya earlier?

Correct.

But I’m spooked that my two top scum are currently voting her.
TSP has said LP is probably wolf too, but dunya apparently is “a bigger fish” which is sorta insulting to LP’s capabilities but LP has no comment there. Is continuing to vote dunya.
Dunya is acting very odd, and as you can see, she is at the very bottom of my townleans.

Do you scum read me for good reasons or are your reads just stuck in feb 2021

[Jackofhearts2005]

Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.

wat
no seriously, how is this a post you wrote with your actual fingers?

[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

I’m just as baffled but why does that make LP scum?

[TonyStarkPrime]

is the case on dunya as simple as i think it is? My understanding is she's a really good wolf and i don't think she'd get caught that easily

This is only true if you think she’s likely to flip here

[Jackofhearts2005]

Kinda hate that post right after TSP threatened to vote LP if they didn’t stop with bad reads.

Tony/HK never wolfin together, here.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.

wat
no seriously, how is this a post you wrote with your actual fingers?

[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

I’m just as baffled but why does that make LP scum?

Scum make worse posts on average

[TonyStarkPrime]

I do sorta think that that particular bad post is NAI but

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol maybe

[TonyStarkPrime]

O very limited LP meta LP makes worse posts as scum

[NotAnAxehole]

is the case on dunya as simple as i think it is? My understanding is she's a really good wolf and i don't think she'd get caught that easily

This is only true if you think she’s likely to flip here

This... I fully expect that regardless of Dunya's alignment, we will be killing town today.

[TonyStarkPrime]

HK votes for people who make bad posts regardless of their likely alignment

[Scotty]

Moving jack into my Scumread pile.
Moving dunya up a bit in my Townlean pile.

Dunya made a very odd switch from voting me to basically calling me IC that, the more I think about it, is TWTBAW. That jack, TSP and LP are still sitting on dunya as a possible mischop today only solidifies that dunya is the scapegoat of the day.

Now NAA just needs to go watch some Reading Rainbow to get better reads and we’ll be in business

[Scotty]

I could be wrong about either of TSp or jack, but at least is of them is bad

[NotAnAxehole]

Moving jack into my Scumread pile.
Moving dunya up a bit in my Townlean pile.

Dunya made a very odd switch from voting me to basically calling me IC that, the more I think about it, is TWTBAW. That jack, TSP and LP are still sitting on dunya as a possible mischop today only solidifies that dunya is the scapegoat of the day.

Now NAA just needs to go watch some Reading Rainbow to get better reads and we’ll be in business

My reads don't matter because I have a 0% chance of getting a majority to vote with me.

Case in point, Mac and I had nearly identical D1 reads and it certainly felt like there was no way we could end up on the same wagon:

[VOTE: the small fish] aubergine

OK, my one non-meta read: I think Le Petit Poussin is >rand mafia.

So here we, again, have a situation where you're making similar reads to me ala the previous game. And yet you are going to just continue to suspect me until we get to a point in the game where you and I are the only ones left alive and the mafia manages to mischop one of us to win. Bet.

rask is still scum fwiw

i disagree bruh

his explanations for his reads are insincere

I think Scotty is mafia. Froze eod. His wagon dissolved into nothing. Creature is hitting his melancholy notes. Dunya wagon is just big game hunting derpiness nothing more.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Scotty you keep moving people down for voting for Dunya and you keep moving Dunya up because people are voting for her and there’s no like actual mechanism hete

[hollowkatt]

I've just skimmed Mac's iso:

I think:

Most likely to be mafia in orange

Players higher on the list are more likely to be mafia with people who are low on the list / not on the list.

LPP
TSP
Urist
Scotty
HK
Syn
LP
Dolby
Marmot


Players not really mentioned / not in the above ranking:
Sig, Jack, Dya, DrWilgy

Why do you wolf read me NAA?

Like is this something you've suddenly come to?

I town read you, but I'm giving some respect to Mac's ISO

Ok, so if you town read me but respect macs ISO enough to put me literally at the bottom of your POE does that mean your town read is bullshit or does that mean you believe in mac more than you believe in yourself?

I'm currently hard defending the other two "most likely to be wolves" on your list. Do you think that I think I have the chutzpah to do that to my, according to you, likely team mates? As in if your oranges are correct flipping me gives you the entire team right?
Do you think that little of my wolf game? (don't answer that b/c I don't want to be sad)

[hollowkatt]

Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.

wat
no seriously, how is this a post you wrote with your actual fingers?

[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

I’m just as baffled but why does that make LP scum?

it reads list a post LP thinks makes headway/gains traction, and gives them a launching point to push from but it's objectively wrong as fuck.

[hollowkatt]

HK votes for people who make bad posts regardless of their likely alignment

this is true. I like my townies to be obvs. makes killing wolves easier.

[Scotty]

Scotty you keep moving people down for voting for Dunya and you keep moving Dunya up because people are voting for her and there’s no like actual mechanism hete

That’s true. You could all be bussing her off a cliff.

She’s still not a Townread. Haven’t ruled out that possibility

[NotAnAxehole]

I've just skimmed Mac's iso:

I think:

Most likely to be mafia in orange

Players higher on the list are more likely to be mafia with people who are low on the list / not on the list.

LPP
TSP
Urist
Scotty
HK
Syn
LP
Dolby
Marmot


Players not really mentioned / not in the above ranking:
Sig, Jack, Dya, DrWilgy

Why do you wolf read me NAA?

Like is this something you've suddenly come to?

I town read you, but I'm giving some respect to Mac's ISO

Ok, so if you town read me but respect macs ISO enough to put me literally at the bottom of your POE does that mean your town read is bullshit or does that mean you believe in mac more than you believe in yourself?

I'm currently hard defending the other two "most likely to be wolves" on your list. Do you think that I think I have the chutzpah to do that to my, according to you, likely team mates? As in if your oranges are correct flipping me gives you the entire team right?
Do you think that little of my wolf game? (don't answer that b/c I don't want to be sad)

I don't think anything in particular about your wolf game.

For the rest...

[hollowkatt]

I've just skimmed Mac's iso:

I think:

Most likely to be mafia in orange

Players higher on the list are more likely to be mafia with people who are low on the list / not on the list.

LPP
TSP
Urist
Scotty
HK
Syn
LP
Dolby
Marmot


Players not really mentioned / not in the above ranking:
Sig, Jack, Dya, DrWilgy

Why do you wolf read me NAA?

Like is this something you've suddenly come to?

I town read you, but I'm giving some respect to Mac's ISO

Ok, so if you town read me but respect macs ISO enough to put me literally at the bottom of your POE does that mean your town read is bullshit or does that mean you believe in mac more than you believe in yourself?

I'm currently hard defending the other two "most likely to be wolves" on your list. Do you think that I think I have the chutzpah to do that to my, according to you, likely team mates? As in if your oranges are correct flipping me gives you the entire team right?
Do you think that little of my wolf game? (don't answer that b/c I don't want to be sad)

I don't think anything in particular about your wolf game.

For the rest...

c'mon man, you've got to have some kind of opinion there. Otherwise your fancy shmancy color coding is worth bupkis.

[NotAnAxehole]

I've just skimmed Mac's iso:

I think:

Most likely to be mafia in orange

Players higher on the list are more likely to be mafia with people who are low on the list / not on the list.

LPP
TSP
Urist
Scotty
HK
Syn
LP
Dolby
Marmot


Players not really mentioned / not in the above ranking:
Sig, Jack, Dya, DrWilgy

Why do you wolf read me NAA?

Like is this something you've suddenly come to?

I town read you, but I'm giving some respect to Mac's ISO

Ok, so if you town read me but respect macs ISO enough to put me literally at the bottom of your POE does that mean your town read is bullshit or does that mean you believe in mac more than you believe in yourself?

I'm currently hard defending the other two "most likely to be wolves" on your list. Do you think that I think I have the chutzpah to do that to my, according to you, likely team mates? As in if your oranges are correct flipping me gives you the entire team right?
Do you think that little of my wolf game? (don't answer that b/c I don't want to be sad)

I don't think anything in particular about your wolf game.

For the rest...

c'mon man, you've got to have some kind of opinion there. Otherwise your fancy shmancy color coding is worth bupkis.

If I were respecting Mac's reads & combining them with my own thoughts on the game, I would kill Scotty.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.

wat
no seriously, how is this a post you wrote with your actual fingers?

[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

I’m just as baffled but why does that make LP scum?

it reads list a post LP thinks makes headway/gains traction, and gives them a launching point to push from but it's objectively wrong as fuck.

I'm only seeing the "objectively wrong" part but okay.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Moving jack into my Scumread pile.
Moving dunya up a bit in my Townlean pile.

Dunya made a very odd switch from voting me to basically calling me IC that, the more I think about it, is TWTBAW. That jack, TSP and LP are still sitting on dunya as a possible mischop today only solidifies that dunya is the scapegoat of the day.

Now NAA just needs to go watch some Reading Rainbow to get better reads and we’ll be in business

Yes, the classic play wherein the wolfteam combines to try to misyeet town Dunya D2.

Weren't you voting Dunya earlier? Now she's town.

The Dunya/Scotty mutual read progressions read super awkward.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scotty you keep moving people down for voting for Dunya and you keep moving Dunya up because people are voting for her and there’s no like actual mechanism hete

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'll feel kinda personally bad if Dunya is town here but like I'm just doing the best I can with what I got and I see what looks like Dunya/Scotty w/w.

[Scotty]

You might have missed it but I already gave my towntell

It was where I told you I was town so

[NotAnAxehole]

Moving jack into my Scumread pile.
Moving dunya up a bit in my Townlean pile.

Dunya made a very odd switch from voting me to basically calling me IC that, the more I think about it, is TWTBAW. That jack, TSP and LP are still sitting on dunya as a possible mischop today only solidifies that dunya is the scapegoat of the day.

Now NAA just needs to go watch some Reading Rainbow to get better reads and we’ll be in business

Yes, the classic play wherein the wolfteam combines to try to misyeet town Dunya D2.

Weren't you voting Dunya earlier? Now she's town.

The Dunya/Scotty mutual read progressions read super awkward.

"All of the people who were voting against the creature wagon yesterday are also voting together today. It was towny yesterday, but now it's scummy."

You shouldn't have switched to Creature yesterday... Jack.

[Scotty]

RINGADINGADOO

[NotAnAxehole]

This game feels like a game where wolves are numerous enough to just bulldoze a town that doesn't want to vote together.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Moving jack into my Scumread pile.
Moving dunya up a bit in my Townlean pile.

Dunya made a very odd switch from voting me to basically calling me IC that, the more I think about it, is TWTBAW. That jack, TSP and LP are still sitting on dunya as a possible mischop today only solidifies that dunya is the scapegoat of the day.

Now NAA just needs to go watch some Reading Rainbow to get better reads and we’ll be in business

Yes, the classic play wherein the wolfteam combines to try to misyeet town Dunya D2.

Weren't you voting Dunya earlier? Now she's town.

The Dunya/Scotty mutual read progressions read super awkward.

"All of the people who were voting against the creature wagon yesterday are also voting together today. It was towny yesterday, but now it's scummy."

You shouldn't have switched to Creature yesterday... Jack.

Hindsight is 20/20.

[NotAnAxehole]

Moving jack into my Scumread pile.
Moving dunya up a bit in my Townlean pile.

Dunya made a very odd switch from voting me to basically calling me IC that, the more I think about it, is TWTBAW. That jack, TSP and LP are still sitting on dunya as a possible mischop today only solidifies that dunya is the scapegoat of the day.

Now NAA just needs to go watch some Reading Rainbow to get better reads and we’ll be in business

Yes, the classic play wherein the wolfteam combines to try to misyeet town Dunya D2.

Weren't you voting Dunya earlier? Now she's town.

The Dunya/Scotty mutual read progressions read super awkward.

"All of the people who were voting against the creature wagon yesterday are also voting together today. It was towny yesterday, but now it's scummy."

You shouldn't have switched to Creature yesterday... Jack.

Hindsight is 20/20.

I mean, sure but Creature is arguably always a bad D1 yeet.

[hollowkatt]

I've just skimmed Mac's iso:

I think:

Most likely to be mafia in orange

Players higher on the list are more likely to be mafia with people who are low on the list / not on the list.

LPP
TSP
Urist
Scotty
HK
Syn
LP
Dolby
Marmot


Players not really mentioned / not in the above ranking:
Sig, Jack, Dya, DrWilgy

Why do you wolf read me NAA?

Like is this something you've suddenly come to?

I town read you, but I'm giving some respect to Mac's ISO

Ok, so if you town read me but respect macs ISO enough to put me literally at the bottom of your POE does that mean your town read is bullshit or does that mean you believe in mac more than you believe in yourself?

I'm currently hard defending the other two "most likely to be wolves" on your list. Do you think that I think I have the chutzpah to do that to my, according to you, likely team mates? As in if your oranges are correct flipping me gives you the entire team right?
Do you think that little of my wolf game? (don't answer that b/c I don't want to be sad)

I don't think anything in particular about your wolf game.

For the rest...

c'mon man, you've got to have some kind of opinion there. Otherwise your fancy shmancy color coding is worth bupkis.

If I were respecting Mac's reads & combining them with my own thoughts on the game, I would kill Scotty.

ok that's at least useful. I came to scotty town early into the start of the day (yes I know it's still technically early but I mean really early) with how hyper defensive he was getting and assuming wolves aren't going to be defensive and deflated in this game state.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Moving jack into my Scumread pile.
Moving dunya up a bit in my Townlean pile.

Dunya made a very odd switch from voting me to basically calling me IC that, the more I think about it, is TWTBAW. That jack, TSP and LP are still sitting on dunya as a possible mischop today only solidifies that dunya is the scapegoat of the day.

Now NAA just needs to go watch some Reading Rainbow to get better reads and we’ll be in business

Yes, the classic play wherein the wolfteam combines to try to misyeet town Dunya D2.

Weren't you voting Dunya earlier? Now she's town.

The Dunya/Scotty mutual read progressions read super awkward.

"All of the people who were voting against the creature wagon yesterday are also voting together today. It was towny yesterday, but now it's scummy."

You shouldn't have switched to Creature yesterday... Jack.

Hindsight is 20/20.

I mean, sure but Creature is arguably always a bad D1 yeet.

That is a fair point.

[Jackofhearts2005]

He's also not that painful of a misyeet.

[hollowkatt]

Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.

wat
no seriously, how is this a post you wrote with your actual fingers?

[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

I’m just as baffled but why does that make LP scum?

it reads list a post LP thinks makes headway/gains traction, and gives them a launching point to push from but it's objectively wrong as fuck.

I'm only seeing the "objectively wrong" part but okay.

To me it reads like a springboard. I can see how others would not read it in that way.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Scotty you keep moving people down for voting for Dunya and you keep moving Dunya up because people are voting for her and there’s no like actual mechanism hete

That’s true. You could all be bussing her off a cliff.

She’s still not a Townread. Haven’t ruled out that possibility

But like why are you now scumreading jack

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'll feel kinda personally bad if Dunya is town here but like I'm just doing the best I can with what I got and I see what looks like Dunya/Scotty w/w.

I’m scared cause the Scotty side of that looks bad / too obvious but game state is favorable towards that

[TonyStarkPrime]

I also don’t know if Dunya switches that read

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ok seriously someone tell me why is sig alive

[NotAnAxehole]

Ok seriously someone tell me why is sig alive

Because nobody had the ability to kill Sig?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Ok seriously someone tell me why is sig alive

Maybe everybody picked paladin, figuring most players would pick fighter.