Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)

[Lime Coke]

This kind of reminds me of DrWilgy back in Coffia on this site where he just randomly decides to vote and push me, but doesn't realize who he's about to run into and ends up getting blasted into space Day 1 in response.

I've had a few of these games happen before as well but that's the most recent I can think of.

[Arcbell]

In lieu of an explanation from srceenplay, here's what I think happened:

1. srceenplay jumped into the game without reading the setup description, not realizing there weren't any power roles
2. srceenplay decided they wanted to soft claim PR / informed for whatever reason
3. srceenplay is doubling down on the whole thing, trying to convince us it's a completely natural series of posts, possibly because they think it's scummy to admit they were trying to trick town

What do you think @Lime Coke ?

Don't change the subject. My laser eyes are unblinking.

[Lime Coke]

In lieu of an explanation from srceenplay, here's what I think happened:

1. srceenplay jumped into the game without reading the setup description, not realizing there weren't any power roles
2. srceenplay decided they wanted to soft claim PR / informed for whatever reason
3. srceenplay is doubling down on the whole thing, trying to convince us it's a completely natural series of posts, possibly because they think it's scummy to admit they were trying to trick town

What do you think @Lime Coke ?

It's tracking because you've been saying "I've given enough info for the time being" despite giving no info beyond voting me.

[Lime Coke]

I'll hard shield the first person to tell me how to vote

I don’t need a shield.
But you can threat me as an informed IC and vote LC.

If we're right on this and Srceen flips mafia, then this spews Lag as town.

[srceenplay]

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

[Lime Coke]

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I've clearly outed a few reads this game and you've done next to nothing beyond vote me and be cryptic about "information."

At this rate, you've entered anti-spew mode since it's already over for you.

[Arcbell]

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

Like there are different contexts in which things may be considered 'information'

In the base context absolutely everything is 'information'. Every word you type. This is what you're trying to get us to believe you meant. if it is though, there's no need to remark on it.

Normally people mean setup information when they say it like you did though, which it is proved you have none (if you're town)

[srceenplay]

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I've clearly outed a few reads this game and you've done next to nothing beyond vote me and be cryptic about "information."

At this rate, you've entered anti-spew mode since it's already over for you.

Outed what reads?

[Lime Coke]

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I've clearly outed a few reads this game and you've done next to nothing beyond vote me and be cryptic about "information."

At this rate, you've entered anti-spew mode since it's already over for you.

Outed what reads?

Iso me, you'll see them in between the posts that I'm burying you.

[srceenplay]

In lieu of an explanation from srceenplay, here's what I think happened:

1. srceenplay jumped into the game without reading the setup description, not realizing there weren't any power roles
2. srceenplay decided they wanted to soft claim PR / informed for whatever reason
3. srceenplay is doubling down on the whole thing, trying to convince us it's a completely natural series of posts, possibly because they think it's scummy to admit they were trying to trick town

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

Like there are different contexts in which things may be considered 'information'

In the base context absolutely everything is 'information'. Every word you type. This is what you're trying to get us to believe you meant. if it is though, there's no need to remark on it.

Normally people mean setup information when they say it like you did though, which it is proved you have none (if you're town)

And this is what you want to push?

LC or Arcbell scum in one of those two. Can't decide which one is genuine and what one is milking it. Maybe both.

[Arcbell]

Nah, I just require an explanation from you at some point!

If you don't give one I have to assume the truth is bad for you.

If you want you can keep getting brad's thoughts first to read him though.

[Lime Coke]

Nah, I just require an explanation from you at some point!

If you don't give one I have to assume the truth is bad for you.

If you want you can keep getting brad's thoughts first to read him though.

I don't think he's actually questioned me on anything he just keeps calling me a wolf and saying he won't give much info out.

[Arcbell]

Currently you (src) have made no effort to confirm nor deny my suspicions.

[Arcbell]

Nah, I just require an explanation from you at some point!

If you don't give one I have to assume the truth is bad for you.

If you want you can keep getting brad's thoughts first to read him though.

I don't think he's actually questioned me on anything he just keeps calling me a wolf and saying he won't give much info out.

Nah he's poking you for your thoughts on the matter

[Lime Coke]

Nah, I just require an explanation from you at some point!

If you don't give one I have to assume the truth is bad for you.

If you want you can keep getting brad's thoughts first to read him though.

I don't think he's actually questioned me on anything he just keeps calling me a wolf and saying he won't give much info out.

Nah he's poking you for your thoughts on the matter

Yeah that did happen, but I don't get what he was going to figure out based on that since it's you scumreading the same guy that I'm scumreading...which is him.
Like I don't understand his philosophy at all here if it comes from a town perspective.

[Arcbell]

Nah, I just require an explanation from you at some point!

If you don't give one I have to assume the truth is bad for you.

If you want you can keep getting brad's thoughts first to read him though.

I don't think he's actually questioned me on anything he just keeps calling me a wolf and saying he won't give much info out.

Nah he's poking you for your thoughts on the matter

Yeah that did happen, but I don't get what he was going to figure out based on that since it's you scumreading the same guy that I'm scumreading...which is him.
Like I don't understand his philosophy at all here if it comes from a town perspective.

If he's town he's probably noted that you're supporting my push on him pretty hard, and that while he's been indicted as a liar and a trickster pretty hard, there isn't actually much in this argument that makes him maf. Town can easily decide to feign n0 informed or whatnot. So he might be wondering why you haven't noticed that or aren't trying harder to determine his alignment.

But this is all pure speculation because again srceenplay's entire thing this game is saying he's giving information while actually giving no information or feedback lol

[Arcbell]

You can tell I revised that post a couple times..

[Lime Coke]

You can tell I revised that post a couple times..

I've done it a few times this game already to make sure what I'm saying makes sense.

Nah, I just require an explanation from you at some point!

If you don't give one I have to assume the truth is bad for you.

If you want you can keep getting brad's thoughts first to read him though.

I don't think he's actually questioned me on anything he just keeps calling me a wolf and saying he won't give much info out.

Nah he's poking you for your thoughts on the matter

Yeah that did happen, but I don't get what he was going to figure out based on that since it's you scumreading the same guy that I'm scumreading...which is him.
Like I don't understand his philosophy at all here if it comes from a town perspective.

If he's town he's probably noted that you're supporting my push on him pretty hard, and that while he's been indicted as a liar and a trickster pretty hard, there isn't actually much in this argument that makes him maf. Town can easily decide to feign n0 informed or whatnot. So he might be wondering why you haven't noticed that or aren't trying harder to determine his alignment.

But this is all pure speculation because again srceenplay's entire thing this game is saying he's giving information while actually giving no information or feedback lol

That's the thing, there's no PRs in this setup so even trying a gambit saying "I'll save info for later" doesn't make any sense here.

What's getting to me is that he's refusing to out any information in a game with 0 PRs. Then when I'm confronting him about his read on me or my scumread on him, his response is just making smart remarks or they're conversation twisting to try to confuse people.
They're not showing attempts to evaluate alignments of anyone. It's more just being disruptive.

[Arcbell]

Yeh agreed

[Porscha]

god I hate day 1 it's only useful once you're on like day 4

[Mizery]

what's useful

[Mizery]

god this is such a good pfp

[hollowkatt]

spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town

[Porscha]

god this is such a good pfp

yeah it is

[Porscha]

what's useful

day 1

[Lime Coke]

spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town

Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?

[hollowkatt]

spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town

Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?

I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

Spoiler: show

scum because of unecessary effort

FTFY

what one? the one you agree with or the one you don't?

The one that you're trying to make on me.

you don't see whats wrong with that?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

what one? the one you agree with or the one you don't?

The one that you're trying to make on me.

you don't see whats wrong with that?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

Well everyone else ignored your BS after you disappeared the moment you got attention on yourself.
Then you magically reappear the moment Arcbell and I started talking about you being mafia and now you're here trying to be smart mouth with your answers.

fuck, I magically disappeared again

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.

[Lime Coke]

@hollowkatt

I did take what you said into account and iso'd Srceenplay again, I do find the portion of "getting attention on himself" there, since it ended up getting me and Arcbell talking to him.
The problem is that I've seen wolves do this type of stuff in games, specifically to me, multiple times.


You did mention he's trying to use it to drop reads but what I'm seeing is-

Spoiler: show

@Mizery

If you're here, do you have anything else besides me being town?

no

you can be scum #2

In lieu of an explanation from srceenplay, here's what I think happened:

1. srceenplay jumped into the game without reading the setup description, not realizing there weren't any power roles
2. srceenplay decided they wanted to soft claim PR / informed for whatever reason
3. srceenplay is doubling down on the whole thing, trying to convince us it's a completely natural series of posts, possibly because they think it's scummy to admit they were trying to trick town

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

Like there are different contexts in which things may be considered 'information'

In the base context absolutely everything is 'information'. Every word you type. This is what you're trying to get us to believe you meant. if it is though, there's no need to remark on it.

Normally people mean setup information when they say it like you did though, which it is proved you have none (if you're town)

And this is what you want to push?

LC or Arcbell scum in one of those two. Can't decide which one is genuine and what one is milking it. Maybe both.

TLDR: Scumread on Mizery, then 1 wolf between Arcbell and I, which he already started the tunnel on me his first post of the game so no progress there.

There's no townreads in that, there's no real solving in good faith as far as I'm seeing. It's just attacks.

[Lime Coke]

If I stepped all over you on that post I apologize, however I have a ton of confidence on Srceen being mafia based on past experiences.

I'm leaning you town for the answer, it actually pointed me into several directions to read into Srceen for, I think we just have different viewpoints in this situation.

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt

I did take what you said into account and iso'd Srceenplay again, I do find the portion of "getting attention on himself" there, since it ended up getting me and Arcbell talking to him.
The problem is that I've seen wolves do this type of stuff in games, specifically to me, multiple times.


You did mention he's trying to use it to drop reads but what I'm seeing is-

Spoiler: show

@Mizery

If you're here, do you have anything else besides me being town?

no

you can be scum #2

In lieu of an explanation from srceenplay, here's what I think happened:

1. srceenplay jumped into the game without reading the setup description, not realizing there weren't any power roles
2. srceenplay decided they wanted to soft claim PR / informed for whatever reason
3. srceenplay is doubling down on the whole thing, trying to convince us it's a completely natural series of posts, possibly because they think it's scummy to admit they were trying to trick town

Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

Like there are different contexts in which things may be considered 'information'

In the base context absolutely everything is 'information'. Every word you type. This is what you're trying to get us to believe you meant. if it is though, there's no need to remark on it.

Normally people mean setup information when they say it like you did though, which it is proved you have none (if you're town)

And this is what you want to push?

LC or Arcbell scum in one of those two. Can't decide which one is genuine and what one is milking it. Maybe both.

TLDR: Scumread on Mizery, then 1 wolf between Arcbell and I, which he already started the tunnel on me his first post of the game so no progress there.

There's no townreads in that, there's no real solving in good faith as far as I'm seeing. It's just attacks.

If I stepped all over you on that post I apologize, however I have a ton of confidence on Srceen being mafia based on past experiences.

I'm leaning you town for the answer, it actually pointed me into several directions to read into Srceen for, I think we just have different viewpoints in this situation.

nbd you didn't step on me. You made a read, I made a different read, you questioned it, I responded, we both learned. I learned you may have a good read on srceen and also learned I may be projecting my own biases on other peoples play.

[Lime Coke]

Town:
BradLand
Arcbell
Falcon
HK

Scum:
Srceenplay

What I have currently before I sort of head off.

I'll probably be on after around 1 PM eastern.

[Lime Coke]

Town:
BradLand
Arcbell
Falcon
HK

Scum:
Srceenplay

What I have currently before I sort of head off.

I'll probably be on after around 1 PM eastern.

Last thing also

If Srceenplay is a wolf then Lag is spewed town.

[Mizery]

Town:
BradLand
Arcbell
Falcon
HK

Scum:
Srceenplay

What I have currently before I sort of head off.

I'll probably be on after around 1 PM eastern.

Brad is even more town

[Lime Coke]

Town:
BradLand
Arcbell
Falcon
HK

Scum:
Srceenplay

What I have currently before I sort of head off.

I'll probably be on after around 1 PM eastern.

Brad is even more town

I'll townread you if you vote Srceenplay.

[Porscha]

Town:
BradLand
Arcbell
Falcon
HK

Scum:
Srceenplay

What I have currently before I sort of head off.

I'll probably be on after around 1 PM eastern.

Brad is even more town

I'll townread you if you vote Srceenplay.

will this also work on me

[Lime Coke]

Town:
BradLand
Arcbell
Falcon
HK

Scum:
Srceenplay

What I have currently before I sort of head off.

I'll probably be on after around 1 PM eastern.

Brad is even more town

I'll townread you if you vote Srceenplay.

will this also work on me

It wouldn't hurt.

[Lime Coke]

I don't get why you're being lackadaisical so far, tbh.

Do you have any thoughts with this game?

[Porscha]

no I hate day 1 and dont even want to bother with screen's theatrics idgi and i wont get it by end of day. it will only make sense later (hopefully)

[Lime Coke]

no I hate day 1 and dont even want to bother with screen's theatrics idgi and i wont get it by end of day. it will only make sense later (hopefully)

You weren't saying this in the two games I played with you...

As both alignments tbh...

So no idea what to think of it.

Regarding Srceen I'm thinking he's just wolf and I've explained why a few times. So yeah, it's best to vote him.

[Porscha]

mask off I dont like day 1 ever really

i'll put vote on screen in the meantime but i'm not dead set on it

[Dragon D. Luffy]

light reads are LC town because of unecessary effort and falcon mafia because of the dumb dizzy case, but I'm not confident on either of those

Some praise & shade, then finished off with some uncertainty.




Hmmmmm

There are two types of people: the ones who know they can't be certain about mafia reads, especially on day 1, and the ones who are not as great at the game as they think they are.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Not sure about the screen thing. Feels to me he is being non-contributive on purpose, which is more annoying than AI. I tend to yeet people who do that eventually, since they are hard to read, but it's a coinflip usually.

LC still looks town for tunelling on it.

Arcbell is a neutral to me, I like the way they are casing Screen, trying to figure him out, but at the same time it's a comfortable position for wolves to be in since they are playing sidekick to LC's case, so no read so far.

Wish more people would post.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

mask off I dont like day 1 ever really

i'll put vote on screen in the meantime but i'm not dead set on it

Not being dead set is fair. But why do you think he is scum? I mean you are the 4th person in the wagon so this is a pretty dangerous vote for a not dead set one.

[MacDougall]

oh hello game

[MacDougall]

I am town.

I think this person is town

[MacDougall]

Why is thee so many 3p i hate tjys already

Dizzy's intoxication feels somewhat...exaggerated.





Or am I alone in this thought?

not alone

[MacDougall]

Okay I actually looked up HK's games to see if he ever posts "first" as mafia but I've only seen him do it as town.

Only looked at MafiaU, Deck Mafia site, and SC2 games that he was mafia (Checked his town games on MU as well) and yeah...not really a smoking gun there for him being mafia.

[MacDougall]

Hk and line town limeeer

for drunk reads, these are good ones

[MacDougall]

Agree. Src should come back and defend their vote if they can. Lets get this game goooooing!

I will D2. I have given enough information already.

That's what you said in your first post. That you'd "given information"

There are no power roles here buckaroo, what information could you possibly need to hide?

Im an open book not hiding at all

Then what information are you referring to? Don't be so cryptic

not being cryptic. you can make a decision and take it just like i did. do you think im wrong or scum.

I’m Dewey.
LimeCoke is confirmed scum this game. That’s all I can say atm but the rest of you should use this information well.

So you're presenting this as if you have some special "information" that you've given us about the game, and now you've said enough and won't be back until day 2. It sounds like you're trying to be mysterious on purpose to get people to believe there's something behind what you're saying. It's inherently deceptive, especially since you're trying to use it as an excuse to slank!!

I think my vote is gonna stay on you for now

i was thinking that screenplay was like suuuuper wrong and was sorta wondering if he was too wrong to be mafia cuz LC and Mizery at this point were just ssooooooo towny to me and I was thinking "I bet if I am right some wolf tries to win townpoints by pushing him for the bad reads" and then you went ahead and did exactly that in like the scummiest sounding shit ever lol

[MacDougall]

I was wavering on townreading Arcbell but the both of us appear to be driving nails into Srceen's coffin post by post and that's solidifying my townread on Object.

@lime coke read post above this plz