The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.
All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.
So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.
The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.
All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.
So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.
straight up that literally never occurred to me wtf. ok that's great.
The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.
All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.
So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.
straight up that literally never occurred to me wtf. ok that's great.
First time I played this, the guy who created the setup was one of the players.
He really liked to school people on mech play. So he explained this right at the start.
The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.
All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.
So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.
Yeah lol, that was silly but I sure wasn't gonna say anything
I was freaking out at eod1 cause I refreshed the site with a minute left to self vote (I was tied for top at 2 with two or three minutes left)...and the site froze and woild not load until eod had passed. Thankfully Marmot moved so I didn't have to feel shitty about missing my chance to win lmao
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:45 pm
NAA was the doctor?
I am confuse
I have no idea what NAA's play this game was and I have also been confused the whole time.
@NotAnAxehole
It wasn't a gambit, CCing in a Jester game didn't make much sense to me, Scotty was my top Jester read. If I appear to be the only one to not say anything / not believe Scotty's claim, I might as well out with a hard claim. I wanted to force mafia to shoot Nanook by saying I PR read him - he would be protected and would have lost as it turns out, but town decided to CFD him instead?
The mafia does NOT get to use the jester as shield in case of a red result.
All town has to do is demand the mafia to kill the red result next night. If they are still alive next day, it means either that was the goon, or mafia is gamethrowing. Mafia has to kill the result if they are the jester, because if town fulfills their promise and yeets the jester, the mafia loses too.
So the cop is actually pretty damn effective against jesters, unless they make the reveal in LyLo.
I wouldn't fault a mafia team for not killing the Jester in that situation.
Nanook played well - but town should have understood that once you're on a target that isn't PR and isn't Jester, you kill. Idk if people had a Jester read on HK, but... I commented on that being unlikely yesterday.
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:45 pm
NAA was the doctor?
I am confuse
I have no idea what NAA's play this game was and I have also been confused the whole time.
@NotAnAxehole
It wasn't a gambit, CCing in a Jester game didn't make much sense to me, Scotty was my top Jester read. If I appear to be the only one to not say anything / not believe Scotty's claim, I might as well out with a hard claim. I wanted to force mafia to shoot Nanook by saying I PR read him - he would be protected and would have lost as it turns out, but town decided to CFD him instead?
I see.
I guess the cop thing was trying to control mafia's kill too?
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:51 pm
Nanook played well - but town should have understood that once you're on a target that isn't PR and isn't Jester, you kill. Idk if people had a Jester read on HK, but... I commented on that being unlikely yesterday.
I think you're right. I definitely felt more confident that hk was not the Jester than I felt about Nanook, but I also proposed that POE, and no one disagreed with it.
From my pov, Scotty was the doc, you and falcon were likely town and possibly Jester, which left a POE of hk/nanook. I didn't think killing hk first made a difference.
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:45 pm
NAA was the doctor?
I am confuse
I have no idea what NAA's play this game was and I have also been confused the whole time.
@NotAnAxehole
It wasn't a gambit, CCing in a Jester game didn't make much sense to me, Scotty was my top Jester read. If I appear to be the only one to not say anything / not believe Scotty's claim, I might as well out with a hard claim. I wanted to force mafia to shoot Nanook by saying I PR read him - he would be protected and would have lost as it turns out, but town decided to CFD him instead?
I see.
I guess the cop thing was trying to control mafia's kill too?
Yeah, I wanted to direct the night kill onto Nanook who was protected every night.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:04 pm
I didn’t think nanook was jester at all. Well done.
If I don’t decide to come out randomly as doctor today y’all probably don’t shift, right?
Because I was planning on killing nook tonite. I’m assuming doctor NAA would have protected him?
I think you're right. One of the big reasons I wasn't voting Nanook was NAA's confidence in the PR read.
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:56 am
I mean it's fair. I see why you town read them. I just think it's a little too focused on one thing.
And from the way I see it Jester is more a threat to Mafia since they want the Jester alive for protection from Cop, but not lynched because they lose.
They also just happen to be in the best position to actually know if someone is a Jester or not, so I'm thinking a focus on the Jester seems a bit more likely to come from Mafia.
Depends on how people play as 3P. I've seen players try to townside or just fuck around and be a circus act.
Also feels like it could suck for town, because like you're pointing out now, it's a distraction as well. The jester gets the attention, mafia could choose to either hide in the background or partake to blend in.
Literally just a chaotic role.
I feel like one of you is Maf, tho I'm unsure who atm