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Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2
I'm going to out my reads when the time is right...aka when I feel like I'm confident enough in them and when I get people to answer some questions...
Or the only question I really have after yesterday...
So yeah that's my plan.
Or the only question I really have after yesterday...
So yeah that's my plan.
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Well I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
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This is from d1 EODhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:16 pmis this new or is this still your catch-up from yesterday
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I mean I understand Mac is a busser, but I'm not so sure with how he did it that it was a bus?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Falcon's response to it and the fact that Falcon complained about it felt like it wasn't a bus.
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2
Luffy is still sus but I haven't read all his stuff.
srceenplay I'm neutral on
I miss lag.
Others I haven't read much of
srceenplay I'm neutral on
I miss lag.
Others I haven't read much of
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Maybe. Falco did seem frustrated. Maf can channel that though. I'd get fake pisst at my maf partners pushing me all the time.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:21 pmI mean I understand Mac is a busser, but I'm not so sure with how he did it that it was a bus?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Falcon's response to it and the fact that Falcon complained about it felt like it wasn't a bus.
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I don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR macArcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
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interesting b/c I don't read it as town at all
why do you town read it?
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You have 2+the toonie loon. They can win with maf. I'm not saying I scumread Mac, but I think a non-TR is valid.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pmI don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR macArcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
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Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
ok if you TR dizzy here then what do you think about his claim that dragon is in fact 3p scumDyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:11 pm I have information that Rondo had tmi on Falcon and is the scum aligned 3p, specifically.
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Something about Rondo's treatment of Falcon was odd as hell though.
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sorry I meant Rondo not dragon
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does DDL being on Falcon and Falcon being on DDL sway you at all?
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*whispers* I am always here
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Maf wants to play it cool if they're engaged in hammering their partner. Doesn't wanna give anything away. Rondo was giving deadlines for hammering falco and then demurring on it to me and jack. I feel like a progression like that makes maf uncomfortable. At the risk of sounding hedgey though this makes slightly less sense as I'm writing it than it did in my head.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pminteresting b/c I don't read it as town at all
why do you town read it?
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2
the toonie loon who is by definition a lost wolf?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:25 pmYou have 2+the toonie loon. They can win with maf. I'm not saying I scumread Mac, but I think a non-TR is valid.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pmI don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR macArcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
I feel like playing to that "out" for lack of better word isn't something mac would be gunning for on D1. Maybe later in the game to cement some cred sure but D1 that feels wrong to me.
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if falcon is going over regardless, which he was, then does it really matter?
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No one actually has mechanics attached to their roles right? Or did I mis-read the setup.Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:25 pmArcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.ok if you TR dizzy here then what do you think about his claim that dragon is in fact 3p scumDyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:11 pm I have information that Rondo had tmi on Falcon and is the scum aligned 3p, specifically.
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no PR's soooooo
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We have different opinions on this. I think a 2 wolf start with a powerwolf and a lost wolf is fine.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pmthe toonie loon who is by definition a lost wolf?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:25 pmYou have 2+the toonie loon. They can win with maf. I'm not saying I scumread Mac, but I think a non-TR is valid.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pmI don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR macArcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
I feel like playing to that "out" for lack of better word isn't something mac would be gunning for on D1. Maybe later in the game to cement some cred sure but D1 that feels wrong to me.
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see here's my problem with this:Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:27 pmMaf wants to play it cool if they're engaged in hammering their partner. Doesn't wanna give anything away. Rondo was giving deadlines for hammering falco and then demurring on it to me and jack. I feel like a progression like that makes maf uncomfortable. At the risk of sounding hedgey though this makes slightly less sense as I'm writing it than it did in my head.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pminteresting b/c I don't read it as town at all
why do you town read it?
on the one hand you're actively suspicious of people on the Falcon wagon (mac and luffy) where you're suspect of Mac for busing but then also suspicious of Rondo for... not busing?
Is this what you're trying to say:
Mac can be a wolf b/c he would bus here and has potential lost wolf outs to carry
and also
Rondo can be a wolf here because he didn't execute the bus
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And I think that wolf?Mac doesn't take that offer on D1 and instead works to get someone else chopped instead but it doesn't look like Mac ever really pushed anyone outside of Falcon which would indicate to me that in a wolf?Mac world he felt hedged in to a Falcon chop extremely early whereas town?Mac probs goes "Falcon is pushing me for bad reasons? probs maf lets kill him"Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pmWe have different opinions on this. I think a 2 wolf start with a powerwolf and a lost wolf is fine.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pmthe toonie loon who is by definition a lost wolf?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:25 pmYou have 2+the toonie loon. They can win with maf. I'm not saying I scumread Mac, but I think a non-TR is valid.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pmI don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR macArcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
I feel like playing to that "out" for lack of better word isn't something mac would be gunning for on D1. Maybe later in the game to cement some cred sure but D1 that feels wrong to me.
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Well, Rondo talked as if Falcon was confirmed mafia pretty much every time they talked about him (which was the only real or consistent read he had afaic) But then also brought up any other topic on the way.Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Mac isn’t a town read for me either.
Dragon and Screen are definitely town.
Dragon is screaming town meta and has good interaction with Falcon.
Screen is town for similar-ish reasons you argue Rondo is town, though I think it works for Screen and not for Rondo. Screen was arguing against the Falcon wagon when it was already quite the thing. He didn’t really activate try to change it, just complained that it was kind if dumb. Not mafia on mafia behavior imo.
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I'm saying Rondo prob isn't a wolf. And yea they're totally different situations so a direct comparison misses the point. Rondo was just in hammer position, didn't start the push. Mac was positioned to get full credit for it. Take my thoughts with a grain of salt, but don't misunderstand themhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pmsee here's my problem with this:Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:27 pmMaf wants to play it cool if they're engaged in hammering their partner. Doesn't wanna give anything away. Rondo was giving deadlines for hammering falco and then demurring on it to me and jack. I feel like a progression like that makes maf uncomfortable. At the risk of sounding hedgey though this makes slightly less sense as I'm writing it than it did in my head.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pminteresting b/c I don't read it as town at all
why do you town read it?
on the one hand you're actively suspicious of people on the Falcon wagon (mac and luffy) where you're suspect of Mac for busing but then also suspicious of Rondo for... not busing?
Is this what you're trying to say:
Mac can be a wolf b/c he would bus here and has potential lost wolf outs to carry
and also
Rondo can be a wolf here because he didn't execute the bus

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Nothing on me?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:34 pmWell, Rondo talked as if Falcon was confirmed mafia pretty much every time they talked about him (which was the only real or consistent read he had afaic) But then also brought up any other topic on the way.Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Mac isn’t a town read for me either.
Dragon and Screen are definitely town.
Dragon is screaming town meta and has good interaction with Falcon.
Screen is town for similar-ish reasons you argue Rondo is town, though I think it works for Screen and not for Rondo. Screen was arguing against the Falcon wagon when it was already quite the thing. He didn’t really activate try to change it, just complained that it was kind if dumb. Not mafia on mafia behavior imo.
Porscha is town too. Should probably find lots of other town.
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Your hammer was weird tbh. But so was my Falcon vote so lol
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Um, not very concerned with you, but you’re probably town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:35 pmNothing on me?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:34 pmWell, Rondo talked as if Falcon was confirmed mafia pretty much every time they talked about him (which was the only real or consistent read he had afaic) But then also brought up any other topic on the way.Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Mac isn’t a town read for me either.
Dragon and Screen are definitely town.
Dragon is screaming town meta and has good interaction with Falcon.
Screen is town for similar-ish reasons you argue Rondo is town, though I think it works for Screen and not for Rondo. Screen was arguing against the Falcon wagon when it was already quite the thing. He didn’t really activate try to change it, just complained that it was kind if dumb. Not mafia on mafia behavior imo.
Porscha is town too. Should probably find lots of other town.
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My hammer WAS weird. I never do that shit, coming in as the least informed person and ending the game early. I suppose I wanted to try something new. And it worked out.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:35 pmYour hammer was weird tbh. But so was my Falcon vote so lol
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I'll trust the Dragon town meta. To an extent.
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You guys all talk about things that are awkward around Falcon, like the hammer and votes/nonvotes on Falcon.
Meanwhile I'm try harding this game and I townread the guy so...at least you guys can feel good about it.
Meanwhile I'm try harding this game and I townread the guy so...at least you guys can feel good about it.
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Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:36 pmUm, not very concerned with you, but you’re probably town.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:35 pmNothing on me?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:34 pmWell, Rondo talked as if Falcon was confirmed mafia pretty much every time they talked about him (which was the only real or consistent read he had afaic) But then also brought up any other topic on the way.Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Mac isn’t a town read for me either.
Dragon and Screen are definitely town.
Dragon is screaming town meta and has good interaction with Falcon.
Screen is town for similar-ish reasons you argue Rondo is town, though I think it works for Screen and not for Rondo. Screen was arguing against the Falcon wagon when it was already quite the thing. He didn’t really activate try to change it, just complained that it was kind if dumb. Not mafia on mafia behavior imo.
Porscha is town too. Should probably find lots of other town.
Not in my computer before tomorrow tho
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Rondo was bussing though. He just didn’t put down the vote he talked about.
It’s Screen who did the anti-bussing thing.
HK’s vote and Mizery’s votes was also eh tbh. And so was mine, but I know why I voted. Mizery probably town tho
It’s Screen who did the anti-bussing thing.
HK’s vote and Mizery’s votes was also eh tbh. And so was mine, but I know why I voted. Mizery probably town tho
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I'm presently reconsidering the TR on Rondo
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The way Rondo wrote “HAHAHAHAHA” to Falcon just reeks of distancing to me.
I’m wrong a lot of the time though.
But Sean agreed.
And he’s right a lot of the time.
I’m wrong a lot of the time though.
But Sean agreed.
And he’s right a lot of the time.
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Porscha deserves a look too I think. I sense a bit of thread detachment.
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I mean, recheck my view of Rondo. It’s from reading the last pages of D1 on phone. It just seemed to me like he had tmi. Like he had a solid negative opinion on Falcon, and his thoughts on Falcon made more sense, and everything else was basically random fmpov
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Okay but taking away the fact that "I'd bus d1 for pelts" am I scum?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Cuz the answer is no I'm clearly not.
So I assume that you left me alive specifically because of this absurd plan lol.
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2
I feel like Falcon responding to Seanzie voting him by voting Rondo instead might be a distance job as well?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:42 pm The way Rondo wrote “HAHAHAHAHA” to Falcon just reeks of distancing to me.
I’m wrong a lot of the time though.
But Sean agreed.
And he’s right a lot of the time.
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Lol get the fuck outta here.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pmsee here's my problem with this:Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:27 pmMaf wants to play it cool if they're engaged in hammering their partner. Doesn't wanna give anything away. Rondo was giving deadlines for hammering falco and then demurring on it to me and jack. I feel like a progression like that makes maf uncomfortable. At the risk of sounding hedgey though this makes slightly less sense as I'm writing it than it did in my head.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pminteresting b/c I don't read it as town at all
why do you town read it?
on the one hand you're actively suspicious of people on the Falcon wagon (mac and luffy) where you're suspect of Mac for busing but then also suspicious of Rondo for... not busing?
Is this what you're trying to say:
Mac can be a wolf b/c he would bus here and has potential lost wolf outs to carry
and also
Rondo can be a wolf here because he didn't execute the bus
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2
What absurd plan?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:46 pmOkay but taking away the fact that "I'd bus d1 for pelts" am I scum?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Cuz the answer is no I'm clearly not.
So I assume that you left me alive specifically because of this absurd plan lol.
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town?mac = can read Falcon like a book and caught him easily and then buried him and didn't consider anything to the contraryhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:33 pmAnd I think that wolf?Mac doesn't take that offer on D1 and instead works to get someone else chopped instead but it doesn't look like Mac ever really pushed anyone outside of Falcon which would indicate to me that in a wolf?Mac world he felt hedged in to a Falcon chop extremely early whereas town?Mac probs goes "Falcon is pushing me for bad reasons? probs maf lets kill him"Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pmWe have different opinions on this. I think a 2 wolf start with a powerwolf and a lost wolf is fine.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pmthe toonie loon who is by definition a lost wolf?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:25 pmYou have 2+the toonie loon. They can win with maf. I'm not saying I scumread Mac, but I think a non-TR is valid.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pmI don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR macArcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
I feel like playing to that "out" for lack of better word isn't something mac would be gunning for on D1. Maybe later in the game to cement some cred sure but D1 that feels wrong to me.
me being able to read falcon easily is nothing new.
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GurlMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:46 pmOkay but taking away the fact that "I'd bus d1 for pelts" am I scum?Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pmWell I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
Cuz the answer is no I'm clearly not.
So I assume that you left me alive specifically because of this absurd plan lol.
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2
I'm pretty confident that Arcbell is just mafia here. They are tonally identical to their play in the RPG mafia game I played with them on MU and their play and reads have been full of mafia agenda.