Evil Bunnies Easter Mafia [OVER]

[Lime Coke]

@Dolby

I think your points about Falcon are valid and I think he's a good wagon option, but I'm sticking with the Wisdom wagon because I have more confidence in that.

[Lime Coke]

No wait, don't leave me on read!

[ilario]

Like idgi, why you're being so aggressive to Nanook and Porscha now. I get you're under a lot of pressure, but I don't understand why you're reacting like this. It feels fake.

Anne is mafia

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

I can see a guillo anne team actually being a thing here and that I was right to originally assume their reads on me felt fishy. I’m starting to feel this way because, I’ve started to get worried about anne since she keeps pushing on wisdom and I know anne generally doesn’t tend to push on a slot this hard unless she’s 99% it’s mafia but I don’t think there’s been enough for anne to feel that confident on that read, esp cos I think wisdom might be >rand town. This vote from guillo pinged me because I know he likes to bus his teammates when they start getting heat and this kinda feels like that here. Plus I feel like guillo has been kinda appeasy this game idk how to explain that. I also found myself in a position not long ago where I had too many townreads and both Anne and guillo have two of the biggest scum ranges I’ve seen in games so I think I was being too generous with my reads on them earlier.

^ I’m not sure how confident I feel on this idea atm but it’s currently what’s running through my mind atm.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think lime is mafia and ilario (afaict?) townreads him and id expect ilario to probably have a good read on Brad, so thats kinda ??? for me, but idk if that means I need to reconsider whether Brad is outed or not or if it even says anything about ilario's alignment

[Dolby]

actually lc, why do you tr rej and why do you sr nanook and porscha?

[Dolby]

nvm you were asked about all of them lol

[Lime Coke]

actually lc, why do you tr rej and why do you sr nanook and porscha?

Oh my god you didn't friendzone me!

But yeah I explained those already, as you saw.

[ilario]

I think lime is mafia and ilario (afaict?) townreads him and id expect ilario to probably have a good read on Brad, so thats kinda ??? for me, but idk if that means I need to reconsider whether Brad is outed or not or if it even says anything about ilario's alignment

Fwiw I wouldn’t say my d1 read on brad is Sheepable since that’s the day I’m most likely to get him wrong but I almost always have him correctly read by d3

[Dolby]

illario, why is wisdom town?

[falcon45ca]

unless I suddenly lost the ability to immediately recognise town LC or LC has some affliction that caused him to be town and posting like a wolf then I'm right

Mac is town but I believe he is wrong about LC

Because he said "hell" after having 6 votes put on him?

Guy knows ppl expect emo shit under duress. Mustering a cpl flaccid "huffy" posts is ridiculously easy. Town reading him for it is dumb.

Mac! Unfortunately my friend this is how he towntells and honestly, I don't understand why are you not questioning the people who band wagoned him without any reason whatsoever, empty, naked votes just sheeping you.

The times I've seen him town tell, he's personally attacked me to the point where I literally feel uncomfortable posting in the thread. He knows he gets like this as town, so I don't see how you can't possibly be considering that he's faking here.

If he isn't, good on him for keeping it together, but his "anger" posts are flat compared to how he usually gets IME.

I know for a fact he is trying to reform and expecting him to react the way described when he has been banned for it is unfair.

I don't disagree, but you're passing the buck.

Have you considered the possibility that he is faking?

All of this just feels....I don't like it.



This is not how we should solve IMO. I don't think this is good for the game

[ilario]

If anne flips green we're doing LC next

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

Actually when I think about this some more I don’t think this is partnery in a world where anne is scum because nook from memory isn’t a busser in the games I seen him scum and Anne generally wouldn’t be okay with her teammates bussing. Which I know looks contradictory since I called out guillos vote on her but guillo is someone who is brave enough to bus regardless of who his teammate is.

[ilario]

illario, why is wisdom town?

I think she’s >rand town. I opened her iso to see why I felt this way and now I have no idea lol.

[Lime Coke]

Alright so.

I'm going to bed. Will be back when I wake up.

Anne wagon should disappear.

Night everyone.

[ilario]

Like idgi, why you're being so aggressive to Nanook and Porscha now. I get you're under a lot of pressure, but I don't understand why you're reacting like this. It feels fake.

Anne is mafia

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

Anyways, I'll sit on this some more later. Gl Gl. Still think Wisdom is wolfiest.

Walk me through that read Anne

Lime Coke is essentially outed mafia lol. So you're right on that one.

If you are serious, I'll respect the read.

Allow me to contest, LC's attempt on me didn't feel as if it was coming from wolves.

unless I suddenly lost the ability to immediately recognise town LC or LC has some affliction that caused him to be town and posting like a wolf then I'm right

Mac is town but I believe he is wrong about LC

All I said was that I don't find LC that scummy and if he is scum then he's not my top priority today because I have stronger reasons to believe other people are scum.

This is not a townie thought.

She has a super weird post asking Lime Coke if he's Limestone, which isn't that bad but just felt kinda off to me. Then she asks how the ISO feature works cause she wants to ISO people and then the rest of her ISO shows almost no evidence whatsoever of her ISO'ing people.

Why is it super weird and why weird is alignment indicative for you here? I don't see it.
There is no way of knowing if Wisdom ISOed people or not, this is a reach.

Lime Coke is essentially outed mafia lol. So you're right on that one.

If you are serious, I'll respect the read.

Allow me to contest, LC's attempt on me didn't feel as if it was coming from wolves.

unless I suddenly lost the ability to immediately recognise town LC or LC has some affliction that caused him to be town and posting like a wolf then I'm right

Mac is town but I believe he is wrong about LC

Because he said "hell" after having 6 votes put on him?

Guy knows ppl expect emo shit under duress. Mustering a cpl flaccid "huffy" posts is ridiculously easy. Town reading him for it is dumb.

Mac! Unfortunately my friend this is how he towntells and honestly, I don't understand why are you not questioning the people who band wagoned him without any reason whatsoever, empty, naked votes just sheeping you.

yeah my current thoughts are that if anne is a wolf then guillo is her partner that is commited to the bus to look towny because he voted her first then questioned her after in a way that doesnt feel like hes actually trying to solve her. if guillo is a wolf then mac and lc are both hard spewed town...which reaffirms that my towncore is likely just pure.

[ilario]

Lime Coke is essentially outed mafia lol. So you're right on that one.

If you are serious, I'll respect the read.

Allow me to contest, LC's attempt on me didn't feel as if it was coming from wolves.

unless I suddenly lost the ability to immediately recognise town LC or LC has some affliction that caused him to be town and posting like a wolf then I'm right

Mac is town but I believe he is wrong about LC

Because he said "hell" after having 6 votes put on him?

Guy knows ppl expect emo shit under duress. Mustering a cpl flaccid "huffy" posts is ridiculously easy. Town reading him for it is dumb.

Mac! Unfortunately my friend this is how he towntells and honestly, I don't understand why are you not questioning the people who band wagoned him without any reason whatsoever, empty, naked votes just sheeping you.

this post in particular looks so pockety to mac and spews lc town

[RondoDimBuckle]

Michelle mac brad seanzie

This is a more serious list of my trs

Add rondo to this

[RondoDimBuckle]

If anne flips green we're doing LC next

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

what if both are green?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Falcon's reads on me and 112 are likely fake

discuss

dolby (4000) sorry for your rand

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: anne ] aubergine

[MacDougall]

@Lime Coke cheers for the Falcon read

[ilario]

@ilario

By the way random as hell, but I was posting on mobile earlier and after I type in the word "townread" the name "Elsies" pops up in my autofill in.

Figured you'd find that funny.

lmaooooo

i miss elsies, she was cool

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think lime is mafia and ilario (afaict?) townreads him and id expect ilario to probably have a good read on Brad, so thats kinda ??? for me, but idk if that means I need to reconsider whether Brad is outed or not or if it even says anything about ilario's alignment

Fwiw I wouldn’t say my d1 read on brad is Sheepable since that’s the day I’m most likely to get him wrong but I almost always have him correctly read by d3

Ty, back into confirmation bias I go

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If anne flips green we're doing LC next

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

what if both are green?

Inconceivable

(Id cry)

[ilario]

I think lime is mafia and ilario (afaict?) townreads him and id expect ilario to probably have a good read on Brad, so thats kinda ??? for me, but idk if that means I need to reconsider whether Brad is outed or not or if it even says anything about ilario's alignment

Fwiw I wouldn’t say my d1 read on brad is Sheepable since that’s the day I’m most likely to get him wrong but I almost always have him correctly read by d3

Ty, back into confirmation bias I go

I still think he’s v likely to be town even if my read isn’t Sheepable I personally wouldn’t want people go there today

[Wisdom]

I re-read Rondo's iso and all I got was a lousy stronger town read on Guill.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think lime is mafia and ilario (afaict?) townreads him and id expect ilario to probably have a good read on Brad, so thats kinda ??? for me, but idk if that means I need to reconsider whether Brad is outed or not or if it even says anything about ilario's alignment

Fwiw I wouldn’t say my d1 read on brad is Sheepable since that’s the day I’m most likely to get him wrong but I almost always have him correctly read by d3

Ty, back into confirmation bias I go

I still think he’s v likely to be town even if my read isn’t Sheepable I personally wouldn’t want people go there today

Mm

I still think he's signifanctly above rand mafia tbh, pribably gonna flash wagon him at eod

[RondoDimBuckle]

If anne flips green we're doing LC next

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

what if both are green?

Inconceivable

(Id cry)

If both are green I am going to want to yeet you

[RondoDimBuckle]

I re-read Rondo's iso and all I got was a lousy stronger town read on Guill.

got any actual posts or just calling it out loud with no proof?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If anne flips green we're doing LC next

[VOTE: anne] aubergine

what if both are green?

Inconceivable

(Id cry)

If both are green I am going to want to yeet you

Understandable, cross that bridge when we (hopefully don't) come to it

[DrWilgy]

I'm pretty sure Guill is town as well, don't think he tilts this hard as wolf!

I have seen people perform a tilt and then get yeeted for tilting and everyone thought they were town but turned out they were wolf. Not naming any names. So NAI for me at best

I agree with this.

That Guillo got off me during that makes me Townlean him. Curious.

His wagon makes me feel like at least one of Nook, Wilgy, Seanzie or Rondo are happy to take advantage of a LHF

Guillo was by no means a LHF when I voted.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine


OK, I decided

FIGHT ME!!!

[VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine

For now. Still reading.

I like this alot.

these all feel so scummy to me, esp the last one. like whats there for him to like about that post from anne? its a very nai post and idk just feeels icky for him to say that

They were first to vote and voice a suspicion that I had growing?

[Michelle]

My last page I read was page 11 and after I know nothing.

I see i have 4 alerts, I can only check them because I am still at 250 km from home.

[Michelle]

Now I really have to sleep

Goodnight Michelle

Godspeedyou

Thank you!

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Because my Mason is voting there and I’m almost halfway to voting every player in the game today

Don't do that please, make your own reads

Because you’re being townie and assertive

assertive
/əˈsəːtɪv/
adjective
having or showing a confident and forceful personality.

Really?

Yeah, I think your approach has been confident.

Unlike Brad I don't trust you and I dislike the explanation, seems fabricated.

I am a fluffy bunny, and I'm also cute.

I heavily TR this post for a reason.

I wish to know your reads Falcon!

I am having a mild crisis of confidence right now for raisins, so take from that what you will.



That being said, I also TR you.


TR Guillo, 112, Dolby



I'd vote Scotty, Rondo...and someone else, haven't decided who yet

Why do you TR 112 and Dolby?

Anne is my top TR don’t @ me

Why?

just bumping post count

That's better than Mac

Fuck this. Sorry Michelle. You are no longer a double voter.

Your vote is all yours sir!

@Scotty

What are your full reads so far?

Good question! Let’s do some gun to heads because I’m in a weird limbo

Gimme a sec

God dammit you don't even know that meme and somehow you use it on me.

GTH:
@112 SCUM
@anne TOWN
@Dolby TOWN
@DrWilgy SCUM
@falcon45ca TOWN
@Guillotine TOWN
@ilario SCUM
@Lime Coke SCUM
@MacDougall AUSTRALIA
@Michelle TOWN
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME SCUM
@Porscha SCUM
@Rej SCUM
@RondoDimBuckle SCUM
@Scotty YO
@Seanzie SCUM
@srceenplay SCUM
@Wisdom SCUM


Holy shit this has to be the most scums I think I’ve ever given on a GTH. That’s not good. Im also forgetting certain people, like 112 or Rej because I haven’t done any isoing. Like I don’t exactly -scum- read my scums but I don’t have a good reason to town them. GTH probably isn’t helpful right now. Will dig deeper later.

Australia is a good read for Mac
I think Rej is town, Lime Coke and Illario, and maaybe Rondo.
I won't defend anyone else from your GTH scummies but i will not vote Wilgy.

Lol i found a spicy egg! Bruh! This is the best game now! I got a 1-shot night ability that allows me to do what love to do the most in mafia games!

Pew pew pew!

Cool!

Why does Mac get Australia and I dont? Rood

Because he is from Australia :shrug

[Michelle]

Unlike Brad I don't trust you and I dislike the explanation, seems fabricated.

Why does it seem fabricated. You are a polarized player. When you wolf you post surface level reads and when you push players you do it for reasons that are not alignment indicative and you try to frame it in a way that it is, unsuccessfully so, on top of that, you are not a confident player as a wolf, so much that you bail out most of the game.
The two times that I have wolfed with you I had to beg you to post and when you didn't anyway I had to bus you.

When you are town, it's just the opposite. You assert confidence, you push players with unparalleled commitment and make questions with the intent to solve the slot, you town lead and you are not easily fooled, you are a Tier S town player.

So I don't see how you think Anne's read on you is fabricated when everyone that knows your meta knows that your town game vs your scum game is literally day and night.

It's fabricated especially because is meta based.
It's ignoring the possibility of growing up as player and make a play as wolf you never saw. Town shouldn't make such easy conclusion without any other reason.
Also Anne doesn't know me well enough.

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Because my Mason is voting there and I’m almost halfway to voting every player in the game today

Don't do that please, make your own reads

Because you’re being townie and assertive

assertive
/əˈsəːtɪv/
adjective
having or showing a confident and forceful personality.

Really?

Yeah, I think your approach has been confident.

Unlike Brad I don't trust you and I dislike the explanation, seems fabricated.

I am a fluffy bunny, and I'm also cute.

I heavily TR this post for a reason.

I wish to know your reads Falcon!

I am having a mild crisis of confidence right now for raisins, so take from that what you will.



That being said, I also TR you.


TR Guillo, 112, Dolby



I'd vote Scotty, Rondo...and someone else, haven't decided who yet

Why do you TR 112 and Dolby?

Anne is my top TR don’t @ me

Why?

just bumping post count

That's better than Mac

Fuck this. Sorry Michelle. You are no longer a double voter.

Your vote is all yours sir!

@Scotty

What are your full reads so far?

Good question! Let’s do some gun to heads because I’m in a weird limbo

Gimme a sec

God dammit you don't even know that meme and somehow you use it on me.

GTH:
@112 SCUM
@anne TOWN
@Dolby TOWN
@DrWilgy SCUM
@falcon45ca TOWN
@Guillotine TOWN
@ilario SCUM
@Lime Coke SCUM
@MacDougall AUSTRALIA
@Michelle TOWN
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME SCUM
@Porscha SCUM
@Rej SCUM
@RondoDimBuckle SCUM
@Scotty YO
@Seanzie SCUM
@srceenplay SCUM
@Wisdom SCUM


Holy shit this has to be the most scums I think I’ve ever given on a GTH. That’s not good. Im also forgetting certain people, like 112 or Rej because I haven’t done any isoing. Like I don’t exactly -scum- read my scums but I don’t have a good reason to town them. GTH probably isn’t helpful right now. Will dig deeper later.

Australia is a good read for Mac
I think Rej is town, Lime Coke and Illario, and maaybe Rondo.
I won't defend anyone else from your GTH scummies but i will not vote Wilgy.

Lol i found a spicy egg! Bruh! This is the best game now! I got a 1-shot night ability that allows me to do what love to do the most in mafia games!

Pew pew pew!

Cool!

Wtf Michelle reads me as town too..and I’m confident she’s town… okay I’m just gonna stop thinking reads on me are tmi.. i have no idea how people read me here and it kinda hurts my ego that I’m being trd..hopefully it’s just a threadstate thing or a meta thing

Do you remember that game where I didn't have any paranoia towards you and you were confused about it? It was a good game fmpov.

I think I have few reason sto consider you town, one is i doubt mafia!you would ask for protection on a townie.

[Michelle]

@Michelle why nanook bad I'm not reading your iso

At the moment of my vote he had under 10 posts none of them constructive and/or useful for town itg

[Michelle]

And now if anyone can @ me with what happened in the last 12 pages it would be awesome because I have to go and I will come back in around 6 hours (that will be when I am already home)

[Rej]

@Rej

What are your pronouns?

he/him/his but you can also do whatever

[Rej]

I got a 5 person wagon on me out of nowhere and 3 of them have jumped onto it without explanation, and 1 person just decides "I'm going to vote LC incase I miss EOD that's in 25 hours."
How do you expect me to react?

@Lime Coke who said that?

Porscha said she was voting me incase she missed EOD.

I just added the 25 hours part because I was annoyed.

Can you give me 3 Town & 3 Maf plz?

Town:
Anne
Michelle
Rej

Mafia:
Wisdom
Nanook
Porscha

Tell me more about Raj and Nanook please.

Raj: I think his takes we're different from what I was seeing, specifically the one he had on Illario earlier with his doc save take, his response to the votes on him even when they were in RVS mode were showing he was in vibe mode and he wasn't just searching for a reason to scumread and push someone.

Nanook: I get that he's he's going to be chill as fuck and just do whatever he wants when he's town, but it goes to a point where the dude just doesn't do anything.
Even in say Veggie Wars where the dude was minimal posting he was outing reads and giving some sort of solve, it looked like he was reading the game.
Here he's just jumping his vote wherever and isn't really figuring out what the individual's actual alignment is. Even when I responded to his vote on me in trying to work with him he just says "nah" and moves on.

I got a 5 person wagon on me out of nowhere and 3 of them have jumped onto it without explanation, and 1 person just decides "I'm going to vote LC incase I miss EOD that's in 25 hours."
How do you expect me to react?

@Lime Coke who said that?

Porscha said she was voting me incase she missed EOD.

I just added the 25 hours part because I was annoyed.

Can you give me 3 Town & 3 Maf plz?

Town:
Anne
Michelle
Rej

Mafia:
Wisdom
Nanook
Porscha

Talk to me about Porscha, what do you see there?

Porscha: Relatively same to Nanook I mentioned in the same post but she comes in, states she's going to drop her vote onto me as I'm the top wagon incase she misses EOD which is going to happen in another 24 hours.
Like I feel like we've had some games where we've started to understand each other and see how the other plays, but she just drops a scumread on me and doesn't really try to solve me either.

I wish I could unwall this wallquote but it seems so complicated, so before I mess up quotes I will leave it as it is, but someone who is next pleace reduce it just to my quote.

The abstract is that I am too busy to catch up everything, so I went back 5 pages to start off catch up recent stuff before going back to other past stuff.

I found this reads from Lime Coke and outside of an earlier vibe I read them hard town for their reads. First the read on me is something I never expected, I am not even knowing how to read myself when town and sometimes I think my reads are bad, but Lime Coke is showing off some good points about myself that I were not aware of. It is giving me confidence and I think that is the way for two townies to find each other. Also he sees in NANOOK what I felt in the early DP. So this is where I want to start off.
Sticking to my townread on Michelle for now, add Lime Coke there, that is my towncore for now.

I will look deeper into NANOOK while catching up the other 5 pages. But yeah, I have to do something, so take this power read.

[Rej]

[VOTE: illario] aubergine

alexa Dolby would almost always take illario

is it a captain game? why sheep scotty on this lol

On page 1 Michelle already feels less stilted than the deck mafia mafia game I played with them so light townlean there

the rest of the first 150 posts or so are harder to parse

Wisdom is just vibing in a way that I feel is less characteristic of them than the other people in the thread at that point in time i guess but w/e. They aren't doing work

Lime Coke feels alright. continuing to like Michelle for town bc they feel like their focused on driving the game forward and I don't feel like their consciously trying to be townread, or using some fun interacts to get tred

don't understadn the wisdom trs tbh. idk how to explain it but they feel like a wolf just weakly flailing their arms trying to get easy interacts with people in the thread. this would be an example. Feels like they're trying to work with the towny of the thread (Michelle) without actually working and leaving room to adjust for later

@Michelle

Can you help me with Guill? I messed up reading him in the HP mash but I don't really see anything wolfy about him right now. You're more experienced lately, are you confident?

Also just glanced at the poll and happy to see them voted

[VOTE: Rej ] aubergine

why?

Michelle wisdom lime Sean are all villas

Talk to me about Wisdom and Sean. Why these two.

I agree with one of these.

good post, getting to the readable part of the game, wilgy kinda v

actually i can explain sean, i find his approach to michelle towny even if i think hes misreading her, and i found his opening posts >rand town

opening posts I can buy I guess. Approach to Michelle, if it's anything close to what I saw on this page, saying that archiving the VC was busywork trying to appear productive, nah that shit ain't towny. Seen a lack of believible reads from this slot

I like Rej's entry into the thread

i was gonna say that anne was giving good reads minus maybe scotty but then i realized they were thread consensus and only two word posts

A few notes:

Wisdom seems to be townreading both Michelle and me but with caution which depicts a level of paranoia that i expect Town!Wisdom to have.

Scotty independently from their attack on me (even though it was unintentional as he claimed) sought to be disruptive and to discredit me. So i still scum read him.

Rej doesnot seem to believe what he is posting, scum lean there

Anne is tonally town and so is Brad.

Im ok with chopping Nanook but im always ok with chopping Nanook so take that read with a grain of salt.

Macdougall where the hell are you?

it is uh

astounishing how much of this i disagree with.

Wisdom just passed the guillo slot off to michelle afaict. Rej, I can see reading that post as LAMIST specifically but I don't think anything else Guillo said has capability to hold water even

Anne isn't tonally town, she doesn't even have tone yet.

Nanook only posted in the first 100 posts iirc

also for a later post wilgy actually did stuff that's readable

Anne is better later on i guess

I am a fluffy bunny, and I'm also cute.

I heavily TR this post for a reason.

I wish to know your reads Falcon!

I am having a mild crisis of confidence right now for raisins, so take from that what you will.



That being said, I also TR you.


TR Guillo, 112, Dolby



I'd vote Scotty, Rondo...and someone else, haven't decided who yet

why tf am I a townread. I literally had 2 posts, one of which was 1/4 of the way to Dolby 4, and the other saying that I'm glad 112 recognized my pfp

heck why are guillo and 112 townreads. Particularly 112

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine


OK, I decided

not a good vote

Like she shows up, makes 25 posts and doesn't really offer any reads besides Guillo is town and then votes someone for a reason I can't discern. I'd like to think a townie would have more developed reasoning after 25 posts even if the reasoning isn't necessarily agreeable/good.

ok this is a big mindmeld moment for me on Wisdom. Anne is town

wisdom's response doesn't fill me with confidence it's basically "I've been putting in work"

@Wisdom

I guess my concern here then is if you ISO'd these people why are there such few examples of things you actually find scummy or townie about them? I'm looking at your ISO now and you just call Guillo town with no reasoning after expressing that you were wary of him after misreading him a few times and were deferring to other people on that, but it seems like that line of thought doesn't really continue elsewhere?

Also your vote on Rando seems like RVS. Like I would have never gathered that you ISO'd him, found him scum, and decided to keep the vote from the content of your posts. The Michelle townread I buy because I see you've interacted with her probably the most out of anyone so I won't harp on that point.

I'm quite bad at making myself heard early on if I'm not invested and in a mind space where I can formulate well. @ilario can attest to this.

Rondo's ISO was pure fluff, I'm pretty sure I said it was pure fluff (implying I had read the ISO), don't know what I should have done differently.

I don't share every thought I have or ISO I do, don't think it's relevant really ^^

Yeah, but I feel like you usually give more reasoning for your reads even if it's not a ton or it's off the cuff. I also thought your opening posts seemed scummy/nervous like scum trying to fit in but didn't want to talk about that much cause my read on openings aren't v good.

What made you go from "I need help reading Guillo" to "Guillo is just town"?

He tilted in a way I think made him very town, but also a thing I noticed during an IRL mafia game today (I'm at a convention playing lots of IRL mafia) was how significantly town indicative it is for people to play "on their own terms" and how wolves wants to play "with the town", and Guill has very much played in his own bubble this game.

ironically part of why i scurmead this slot lol

Michelle still towny on page 10

Wilgy still fine

Where is everyone?

I have to sleep soon and tomorrow I will be out of town and unable to play much. Eod is at 4 am for me, the probability to be awake is almost zero

I TR 112 based off experience playing with her. Like, sure she could be Maf and I could be misreading her, but I don't think so.



Dolby had a handful of posts I TR. More of a gut feel than anything right now

this is literally meaningless on both counts like

these are literally fake reads

falcon acting sus aroudn mac's readslist

i guess Porscha treating guillo seriously is a good look for them

I'm at 750 and I'm capped out on reading

Please unwall me.

I need more reads so I am inclined to hand out another townread, and that one goes to Dolby.
Not as hard as Lime Coke but this is a vibe read.

Reading this it feels Dolby makes nice progression on their reads, I don't care whether their reads are correct, but they happened and they happened well.
Reading this readcluster felt just essential, alot of stuff picked on, from early stuff to mid DP events. Reading Dolby's reads also helped me, it was like rereading some exchanges and also catching back up to the mid DP.

I think Dolby believes what they say and is not just making reads for the sake of it (scum!). So imma add them to my townpool.


Catching up to this point I want to mention Mac and Lime being at odds. Then NANOOK and Mac townreading each other is something interesting to take note off.
My history with MAC is rather interesting from my perspective. I often tended to scum read him and he often turned out town. And sometimes when I townread him I felt like he would reward me with putting his vote on me, he then either could end up town or mafia. I still don't see why spending several pages of pushing Lime Coke brought any results so I think that MAC's more or less "tunnel" against Lime Coke is less productive and good looking. Don't know what it makes for my readlist, but I will def try to read more into this throughout the game.

[Guillotine]

Im gonna townread illario and hope for the best

lol ik i said id ignore peopels reads on me but i do think this might be scummy for guillo? he tends to ignore me more as scum i think but ig i can see a world where after last game he could possibly say this as town too...idk

can you go through my ISO and read my push on Guillo, I cant really copy paste it because its so big. Let me know what you think. Basically two posts, one original and a EBWOP after it

Okay I will! Can I ask why u seem concerned about my read in particular? Like u also reacted fairly strongly to what I said about Scotty. Also the reason I found Scotty’s list to be towny was that I think scum tend to be more likely to take a pockety approach early in the game and they don’t want to risk angering too many people and since a lot of town players tend to omgus I think someone outing a list calling half the lobby scum is a towny thing to do

I want multiple opinions, you have said that Guillo might be scummy. I think the same thing but I am not certain I want you to have a look. I had nanook look earlier. More eyes on the argument the better. Its not about you its about your state of mind right now if that makes sense.

dont worry. Ill push you sooner or later. I dont mind pissing everyone off so let me do it

Imma just call u towny for this post and move on

I will get to ur case on guillo eventually though, I wanna catch up first though but that might take me a while since I’m doing some other stuff too atm

no I am not town I am scum, ty

What is the purpose of doing this? You've done it twice in this game now.

[RondoDimBuckle]

lol ik i said id ignore peopels reads on me but i do think this might be scummy for guillo? he tends to ignore me more as scum i think but ig i can see a world where after last game he could possibly say this as town too...idk

can you go through my ISO and read my push on Guillo, I cant really copy paste it because its so big. Let me know what you think. Basically two posts, one original and a EBWOP after it

Okay I will! Can I ask why u seem concerned about my read in particular? Like u also reacted fairly strongly to what I said about Scotty. Also the reason I found Scotty’s list to be towny was that I think scum tend to be more likely to take a pockety approach early in the game and they don’t want to risk angering too many people and since a lot of town players tend to omgus I think someone outing a list calling half the lobby scum is a towny thing to do

I want multiple opinions, you have said that Guillo might be scummy. I think the same thing but I am not certain I want you to have a look. I had nanook look earlier. More eyes on the argument the better. Its not about you its about your state of mind right now if that makes sense.

dont worry. Ill push you sooner or later. I dont mind pissing everyone off so let me do it

Imma just call u towny for this post and move on

I will get to ur case on guillo eventually though, I wanna catch up first though but that might take me a while since I’m doing some other stuff too atm

no I am not town I am scum, ty

What is the purpose of doing this? You've done it twice in this game now.

three times*

[Guillotine]

Because he said "hell" after having 6 votes put on him?

Guy knows ppl expect emo shit under duress. Mustering a cpl flaccid "huffy" posts is ridiculously easy. Town reading him for it is dumb.

Mac! Unfortunately my friend this is how he towntells and honestly, I don't understand why are you not questioning the people who band wagoned him without any reason whatsoever, empty, naked votes just sheeping you.

The times I've seen him town tell, he's personally attacked me to the point where I literally feel uncomfortable posting in the thread. He knows he gets like this as town, so I don't see how you can't possibly be considering that he's faking here.

If he isn't, good on him for keeping it together, but his "anger" posts are flat compared to how he usually gets IME.

I know for a fact he is trying to reform and expecting him to react the way described when he has been banned for it is unfair.

And yet you're feeding into it by townreading him for the most fakeable aggro ever.

If he is faking it then we'll know he is not trying to reform and will not trust him next time but literally, I can see why he got pissed off when Nanook purposely provoked him by not acknowledging his concerns, Nanook laughed at his face, Wilgy naked voted him and Porscha voted him in case he forgot later? Wtf? Is he planning to bail out or something with 25 hours left in the game?

Does not that kind of behavior rise red flags for you?

I didn't provoke him intentionally (I've already said that in direct response to you, fyi), I responded normally and he lied/made shit up then very theatrically flipped his lid when he realized he was outing, lol

I know you're always going to see my play in the least generous possible light, but this is just silly

What did he lie about? Show me.

[Rej]

[VOTE: Dolby ] aubergine

I was asking me how to read Rondo during the catch up and I couldn't find a placement in my readlist. But I wanted to give a vibe read and I think Rondo doesn't look good in my book.
There was a baseless early vote on me if I remember, and then they vote my town read. The vibe is that me and Rondo could be naturally at odds, maybe counteraligned to say.
Not a strong scum read but a slight scum lean for now.

[Guillotine]

can you go through my ISO and read my push on Guillo, I cant really copy paste it because its so big. Let me know what you think. Basically two posts, one original and a EBWOP after it

Okay I will! Can I ask why u seem concerned about my read in particular? Like u also reacted fairly strongly to what I said about Scotty. Also the reason I found Scotty’s list to be towny was that I think scum tend to be more likely to take a pockety approach early in the game and they don’t want to risk angering too many people and since a lot of town players tend to omgus I think someone outing a list calling half the lobby scum is a towny thing to do

I want multiple opinions, you have said that Guillo might be scummy. I think the same thing but I am not certain I want you to have a look. I had nanook look earlier. More eyes on the argument the better. Its not about you its about your state of mind right now if that makes sense.

dont worry. Ill push you sooner or later. I dont mind pissing everyone off so let me do it

Imma just call u towny for this post and move on

I will get to ur case on guillo eventually though, I wanna catch up first though but that might take me a while since I’m doing some other stuff too atm

no I am not town I am scum, ty

What is the purpose of doing this? You've done it twice in this game now.

three times*

You get the point. What's the purpose?

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Dolby ] aubergine

I was asking me how to read Rondo during the catch up and I couldn't find a placement in my readlist. But I wanted to give a vibe read and I think Rondo doesn't look good in my book.
There was a baseless early vote on me if I remember, and then they vote my town read. The vibe is that me and Rondo could be naturally at odds, maybe counteraligned to say.
Not a strong scum read but a slight scum lean for now.

hehehehe

[Guillotine]

Macs opening posts are towny but he’s scumreading two people that I didn’t think were scum which might mean I need to reset my reads lol because I don’t feel like mac is reading people in bad faith here

Who are those two people?

[Guillotine]

Ehhhhh I think mac might be my top town with Michelle now

Macs opening posts are towny but he’s scumreading two people that I didn’t think were scum which might mean I need to reset my reads lol because I don’t feel like mac is reading people in bad faith here

They are but i dont get why Mac scum reading two people you didnt scum read means you need to reset your reads because Mac says so. Town!ilario is very committed to his reads and get to scum through his own solving process.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Mac! Unfortunately my friend this is how he towntells and honestly, I don't understand why are you not questioning the people who band wagoned him without any reason whatsoever, empty, naked votes just sheeping you.

The times I've seen him town tell, he's personally attacked me to the point where I literally feel uncomfortable posting in the thread. He knows he gets like this as town, so I don't see how you can't possibly be considering that he's faking here.

If he isn't, good on him for keeping it together, but his "anger" posts are flat compared to how he usually gets IME.

I know for a fact he is trying to reform and expecting him to react the way described when he has been banned for it is unfair.

And yet you're feeding into it by townreading him for the most fakeable aggro ever.

If he is faking it then we'll know he is not trying to reform and will not trust him next time but literally, I can see why he got pissed off when Nanook purposely provoked him by not acknowledging his concerns, Nanook laughed at his face, Wilgy naked voted him and Porscha voted him in case he forgot later? Wtf? Is he planning to bail out or something with 25 hours left in the game?

Does not that kind of behavior rise red flags for you?

I didn't provoke him intentionally (I've already said that in direct response to you, fyi), I responded normally and he lied/made shit up then very theatrically flipped his lid when he realized he was outing, lol

I know you're always going to see my play in the least generous possible light, but this is just silly

What did he lie about? Show me.

I'm not your ask jeeves and I'm not pushing him until eod anyways

[RondoDimBuckle]

The times I've seen him town tell, he's personally attacked me to the point where I literally feel uncomfortable posting in the thread. He knows he gets like this as town, so I don't see how you can't possibly be considering that he's faking here.

If he isn't, good on him for keeping it together, but his "anger" posts are flat compared to how he usually gets IME.

I know for a fact he is trying to reform and expecting him to react the way described when he has been banned for it is unfair.

And yet you're feeding into it by townreading him for the most fakeable aggro ever.

If he is faking it then we'll know he is not trying to reform and will not trust him next time but literally, I can see why he got pissed off when Nanook purposely provoked him by not acknowledging his concerns, Nanook laughed at his face, Wilgy naked voted him and Porscha voted him in case he forgot later? Wtf? Is he planning to bail out or something with 25 hours left in the game?

Does not that kind of behavior rise red flags for you?

I didn't provoke him intentionally (I've already said that in direct response to you, fyi), I responded normally and he lied/made shit up then very theatrically flipped his lid when he realized he was outing, lol

I know you're always going to see my play in the least generous possible light, but this is just silly

What did he lie about? Show me.

I'm not your ask jeeves and I'm not pushing him until eod anyways

what are the odds that you (Jeeves) and mac (And possibly scotty?) are on the same mafia team this game?