Dr. Who Mafia - Night 12

[Marmot]

I'm voting for Chris today. Niju, I see you haven't voted yet...what are your thoughts?

Catching up...ugh. I knew I shouldn't have left it to tonight, but I wanted to read Harry Potter and play Sporcle instead last night :P

I am also a user of the Sporcle.

[Chris]

Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?

[nijuukyugou]

I'm voting for Chris today. Niju, I see you haven't voted yet...what are your thoughts?

Catching up...ugh. I knew I shouldn't have left it to tonight, but I wanted to read Harry Potter and play Sporcle instead last night :P

I am also a user of the Sporcle.

YESSSSSSS God I think I have an addiction but not a bad enough one to care because I'm a beast at geography now

[Chris]

And MM is not a threat. I never said not to lynch him, but he's been exposed. No one will believe him. We see him right there, and he'll be there until we lynch him. He has no secret powers or night powers.

THAT'S how he's vanilla.

And you do recall that he was recruited. Why would The Master defend MM at all?

[Marmot]

Ugh, this is what happens when I don't get a vacation - I didn't notice MM voted Chris. Scratch what I said about saving teammates.

I need a drink.

[Chris]

Snow... what's up? Why are you sitting on that vote? Did you have to go back into your team chat to figure out why I'm asking you to vote for me, and how to handle it?

[nijuukyugou]

Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?

Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.

[Marmot]

I'm voting for Chris today. Niju, I see you haven't voted yet...what are your thoughts?

Catching up...ugh. I knew I shouldn't have left it to tonight, but I wanted to read Harry Potter and play Sporcle instead last night :P

I am also a user of the Sporcle.

YESSSSSSS God I think I have an addiction but not a bad enough one to care because I'm a beast at geography now

I've wasted time on there. Lol probably too much time...

But thanks to Sporcle, I also know every country in the world. Yay geography!

[Snow Dog]

Snow... what's up? Why are you sitting on that vote? Did you have to go back into your team chat to figure out why I'm asking you to vote for me, and how to handle it?

I was doing toilet actually.

[nijuukyugou]

Snow... what's up? Why are you sitting on that vote? Did you have to go back into your team chat to figure out why I'm asking you to vote for me, and how to handle it?

I was doing toilet actually.

Sporcle break time.

[Chris]

Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?

Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.

He's voted lock step with Sabie and Snow Dog for the most part.

Voted Hedgie as being the recruiter when it's just about impossible for that to be true.

There was a missing PM on night 6, and Bass was gone that entire time until day 7, and there are far more baddie roles that have to send in PMs vs civ roles. His reasons for votes feel faked.

But those are just my reasons.


But back to this whole The Master deal...

Why did you think that I, as The Master, was defending MM when I was saying that he's essentially harmless?

MM is recruited as far as anyone knows, and The Master would need MM dead just like everyone else. So why would The Master care at all to protect someone who is not on his LMS team?

[Chris]

OK Snowy! Now that you're all emptied out... how 'bout that vote?!?

[Marmot]

Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.

I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.

Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...

That's a weird thing for a civ with a kill protecton to say.

[Snow Dog]

Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?

Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.

He's voted lock step with Sabie and Snow Dog for the most part.

Voted Hedgie as being the recruiter when it's just about impossible for that to be true.

There was a missing PM on night 6, and Bass was gone that entire time until day 7, and there are far more baddie roles that have to send in PMs vs civ roles. His reasons for votes feel faked.

But those are just my reasons.


But back to this whole The Master deal...

Why did you think that I, as The Master, was defending MM when I was saying that he's essentially harmless?

MM is recruited as far as anyone knows, and The Master would need MM dead just like everyone else. So why would The Master care at all to protect someone who is not on his LMS team?

Sorry. I STILL don't understand why it's "just about impossible" that Hedge is a recruiter.

[nijuukyugou]

Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?

Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.

He's voted lock step with Sabie and Snow Dog for the most part.

Voted Hedgie as being the recruiter when it's just about impossible for that to be true.

There was a missing PM on night 6, and Bass was gone that entire time until day 7, and there are far more baddie roles that have to send in PMs vs civ roles. His reasons for votes feel faked.

But those are just my reasons.


But back to this whole The Master deal...

Why did you think that I, as The Master, was defending MM when I was saying that he's essentially harmless?

MM is recruited as far as anyone knows, and The Master would need MM dead just like everyone else. So why would The Master care at all to protect someone who is not on his LMS team?

Dammit, I thought I said "Sporcle break!" Ah well.

I thought Lucy was recruited BY the Master? Was that determined not to be the case? Her role sure says so.

[Chris]

It said recruited.

Lucy had BTSC with The Master if they found each other.

That's not being recruited. That's having BTSC.

[Snow Dog]

Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?

Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.

He's voted lock step with Sabie and Snow Dog for the most part.

Voted Hedgie as being the recruiter when it's just about impossible for that to be true.

There was a missing PM on night 6, and Bass was gone that entire time until day 7, and there are far more baddie roles that have to send in PMs vs civ roles. His reasons for votes feel faked.

But those are just my reasons.


But back to this whole The Master deal...

Why did you think that I, as The Master, was defending MM when I was saying that he's essentially harmless?

MM is recruited as far as anyone knows, and The Master would need MM dead just like everyone else. So why would The Master care at all to protect someone who is not on his LMS team?

Dammit, I thought I said "Sporcle break!" Ah well.

I thought Lucy was recruited BY the Master? Was that determined not to be the case? Her role sure says so.

Her role does not explicitly say that the Master/Lucy relationship is recruitment.

[Marmot]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

[Snow Dog]

Yeah....what Chris said.

[Snow Dog]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

Who?

[Snow Dog]

So the Master never found Lucy? He cetainly can now.

[Chris]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

LOL... knowing your role... this line just struck me as funny...

[Snow Dog]

Is the master still alive? When was his last NK attempt?

[Marmot]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

Who?

Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.

And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

[Marmot]

Is the master still alive? When was his last NK attempt?

I doubt he's dead, he does have 3 survivals. I think he kills on odds nights?

[Snow Dog]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

Who?

Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.

And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Well i've been banging on about Chris being the Master for ages and it seemed most people disagreed. Quite strongly.

[Snow Dog]

Is the master still alive? When was his last NK attempt?

I doubt he's dead, he does have 3 survivals. I think he kills on odds nights?

I guess. I'm just having difficulty remembering him last being mentioned.

Chris I'm going for a shower. OK?

[Marmot]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

Who?

Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.

And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Well i've been banging on about Chris being the Master for ages and it seemed most people disagreed. Quite strongly.

Probaly because too many people suspect you to believe you. :P

Probably the same case for me too...

[Chris]

MM died day 6. That means, not factoring in that he was recruited, he would have had 5 chances of finding The Master.

29 players night 1.
27 players night 2.
26 players night 3.
24 players night 4.
21 players night 5.

I removed a player for each death, and 1 for each player he could have searched.

Those odds are still pretty slim. I thought that BTSC was broken if you were recruited, but the hosts won't answer that. So I suppose MM could be searching for The Master still, but whether he's still recruited or not, he still needs all of the civs dead to win.

Remember that.


LINKI @ Snow: Enjoy it. I'll be waiting for that vote!


And no MM, I'm not The Master. But I love your brilliant "revelation"...

[Chris]

Opps, remove 1 form all but the 29.

I forgot about the lynch deaths.

[Snow Dog]

I don't feel I can vote bass for holding the same suspicion of Hedge that I do. That'd be unfair. Chris got me convinced (with input from others) that he is jack. But now I'm unsure again.

Dammit this game has got me so paranoid.

[Chris]

I"m pretty certain Snow Dog isn't going to vote for me.




linki

And here's where Snow Dog hides his extra votes.

LOL!!!!!

[Snow Dog]

No Chris

Lucy Saxon: The wife/companion of Harold Saxon AKA The Master. Every night, she searches for him. If she finds him, they gain BTSC and her win condition becomes the same as that of The Master. If he dies before her, she inherits his kill, but none of his other abilities. If she finds him and he has been targeted by a night action, then her win condition changes to that of the civvies and she does not gain BTSC with him. But if he targets her for a nightkill, it will automatically be blocked.


And now....SHOWER!!!!


sploosh

[Marmot]

MM died day 6. That means, not factoring in that he was recruited, he would have had 5 chances of finding The Master.

29 players night 1.
27 players night 2.
26 players night 3.
24 players night 4.
21 players night 5.

I removed a player for each death, and 1 for each player he could have searched.

Those odds are still pretty slim. I thought that BTSC was broken if you were recruited, but the hosts won't answer that. So I suppose MM could be searching for The Master still, but whether he's still recruited or not, he still needs all of the civs dead to win.

Remember that.


LINKI @ Snow: Enjoy it. I'll be waiting for that vote!


And no MM, I'm not The Master. But I love your brilliant "revelation"...

I'll let you know if I find him tonight.

[Chris]

No Snow:

Lucy Saxon: The wife/companion of Harold Saxon AKA The Master. Every night, she searches for him. If she finds him, they gain BTSC and her win condition becomes the same as that of The Master. If he dies before her, she inherits his kill, but none of his other abilities. If she finds him and he has been targeted by a night action, then her win condition changes to that of the civvies and she does not gain BTSC with him. But if he targets her for a nightkill, it will automatically be blocked.

IF she finds him, AND he's been targeted by a night action, THEN her win condition changes.

If she never found him, she is still LMS.

By what you're saying Snow, if we lynched Jenny or Madame, they'd show up as recruited too.



See what I'm sayin'?

[Chris]

I'll let you know if I find him tonight.

You do that.

But seriously, do you think anyone is going to believe a word you say?



I mean, you're a recruited Indy.

[Chris]

Lastly... and I mean it, this is the last time I talk about whether MM's "recruitment" was for The Master.

Lucy searches for The Master. When was the last time some who was recruited had to search for their recruiter?

They don't.

[zeek]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

Who?

Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.

And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Who else fo you think is bad?

[Chris]

MM... LOL.. how the hell could I be the cyber controller?

THAT I've got to hear...

[Chris]

I'll let you know if I find him tonight.

You do that.

But seriously, do you think anyone is going to believe a word you say?



I mean, you're a recruited Indy.

Except Epig. He'll believe every word you say.

[Dom]

Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.

I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.

Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...

Just curious, how did you react when MP did this?

I don't feel I can vote bass for holding the same suspicion of Hedge that I do. That'd be unfair. Chris got me convinced (with input from others) that he is jack. But now I'm unsure again.

Dammit this game has got me so paranoid.

That's not why I'm voting Bass....
He implied knowledge of how the recruitments work, which someone on the team would know.

[Snow Dog]

No Snow:

Lucy Saxon: The wife/companion of Harold Saxon AKA The Master. Every night, she searches for him. If she finds him, they gain BTSC and her win condition becomes the same as that of The Master. If he dies before her, she inherits his kill, but none of his other abilities. If she finds him and he has been targeted by a night action, then her win condition changes to that of the civvies and she does not gain BTSC with him. But if he targets her for a nightkill, it will automatically be blocked.

IF she finds him, AND he's been targeted by a night action, THEN her win condition changes.

If she never found him, she is still LMS.

By what you're saying Snow, if we lynched Jenny or Madame, they'd show up as recruited too.



See what I'm sayin'?

Not really. We don't know what her wim conditions are if she never finds the master.

And that Jenny thing I don't understand at all

[Marmot]

MM... LOL.. how the hell could I be the cyber controller?

THAT I've got to hear...

You have your teammate NK you to draw attention away from that idea. Since you'd survive anyway, and the Cybers have a kill each night, why not?

[Snow Dog]

Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.

I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.

Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...

Just curious, how did you react when MP did this?

I don't feel I can vote bass for holding the same suspicion of Hedge that I do. That'd be unfair. Chris got me convinced (with input from others) that he is jack. But now I'm unsure again.

Dammit this game has got me so paranoid.

That's not why I'm voting Bass....
He implied knowledge of how the recruitments work, which someone on the team would know.

Did he? Maybe he just assumed something? I'll try and find that post.

[Chris]

Remember, the MM/Epig lynch was a tie on paper, but the hosts said it was not a tie.

Amy knows where she voted... If she voted for Epig, then she knows that The CyberHead found the body.

And Snow was one of the MM voters.


Linki @ Snow: Oh no you don't You don't get to go suddenly find a reason to vote Bass. Bass merely said that he thought there were three recruits using the same logic I did. Odd day recruitments.

Dom, why didn't you find it suspicious that I used that same logic that Bass did. I said it before Bass did even.

[Marmot]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

Who?

Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.

And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Who else fo you think is bad?

Chris is my main suspect right now.

I believe Elo and DF are good based on the Strax relations. I'm gonna stick with MP and SVS being good because it's just kinda obvious. I also trust Epi.

TH is flying WAY under the radar right now. That's all I've noted from him. He has a night action which is worth noting.


Indifferent on the rest, but I haven't focused on them. If Bass flips as a cyber, then my read on Chris will change. Anyone else you recommend looking at?

[Chris]

Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.

I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.

Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...

Just curious, how did you react when MP did this?

Don't care.

It's different here.

Don't like it?

Vote for me.

[Snow Dog]

Remember, the MM/Epig lynch was a tie on paper, but the hosts said it was not a tie.

Amy knows where she voted... If she voted for Epig, then she knows that The CyberHead found the body.

And Snow was one of the MM voters.


Linki @ Snow: Oh no you don't You don't get to go suddenly find a reason to vote Bass. Bass merely said that he thought there were three recruits using the same logic I did. Odd day recruitments.

Dom, why didn't you find it suspicious that I used that same logic that Bass did. I said it before Bass did even.

Yes I found that post. I see nothing there but i want to know what Dom made of it.

[zeek]

Care to elaborate on TH?

Just wanted to see who you'd mention really

[Snow Dog]

Why does Dom only make one post at a time?

Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.

Who?

Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.

And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Who else fo you think is bad?

Chris is my main suspect right now.

I believe Elo and DF are good based on the Strax relations. I'm gonna stick with MP and SVS being good because it's just kinda obvious. I also trust Epi.

TH is flying WAY under the radar right now. That's all I've noted from him. He has a night action which is worth noting.


Indifferent on the rest, but I haven't focused on them. If Bass flips as a cyber, then my read on Chris will change. Anyone else you recommend looking at?

How do you know TH has a night action? And be careful who you think you can trust wwith recruiters.