Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)

[Mizery]

Maybe it is Mizery and I’m being stubborn for no reason

try reading over lag's takes on me if you actually think that

[Mizery]

how do i vote again

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine


Just like that

see like
UGH
look how awesome this interaction would have been if i was a wolf

[Mizery]

Damn just realized I didn't even break out the "why would i kill LC on D1" card

[Dyslexicon]

how do i vote again

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine


Just like that

see like
UGH
look how awesome this interaction would have been if i was a wolf

Wat

That looks like it could easily be no stakes distacing from falcon and you wouldn’t know hks role

[Mizery]

how do i vote again

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine


Just like that

see like
UGH
look how awesome this interaction would have been if i was a wolf

Wat

That looks like it could easily be no stakes distacing from falcon and you wouldn’t know hks role

bt cmon if i was the 3p and hk was a goon then this would be a really funny interaction

[Dyslexicon]

Damn just realized I didn't even break out the "why would i kill LC on D1" card

LC was not killed on D1. Are we in a derp marathon here.

Also, what card is that anyway? Why wouldn’t you kill lc. And didn’t you say arguments like these makes no sense to you?

[Dyslexicon]

how do i vote again

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine


Just like that

see like
UGH
look how awesome this interaction would have been if i was a wolf

Wat

That looks like it could easily be no stakes distacing from falcon and you wouldn’t know hks role

bt cmon if i was the 3p and hk was a goon then this would be a really funny interaction

That true

[Mizery]

Damn just realized I didn't even break out the "why would i kill LC on D1" card

LC was not killed on D1. Are we in a derp marathon here.

Also, what card is that anyway? Why wouldn’t you kill lc. And didn’t you say arguments like these makes no sense to you?

meant d2

and meant night

i think

[Dyslexicon]

Damn just realized I didn't even break out the "why would i kill LC on D1" card

LC was not killed on D1. Are we in a derp marathon here.

Also, what card is that anyway? Why wouldn’t you kill lc. And didn’t you say arguments like these makes no sense to you?

meant d2

and meant night

i think

What card is it anyway

[Mizery]

Damn just realized I didn't even break out the "why would i kill LC on D1" card

LC was not killed on D1. Are we in a derp marathon here.

Also, what card is that anyway? Why wouldn’t you kill lc. And didn’t you say arguments like these makes no sense to you?

but also it's something i say every game becase brad always hard townreads me so me killing him would be like lol

[Porscha]

Idk that I can be here for eod. I think like everyone except lag is possible wolf. Maybe in miz/ddl

[Dyslexicon]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

[Porscha]

Good talk.

Oh I'm so sorry guy who is around 30% of the day zz

[Jackofhearts2005]

how do i vote again

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

[VOTE: Mizery] aubergine


Just like that

see like
UGH
look how awesome this interaction would have been if i was a wolf

Wat

That looks like it could easily be no stakes distacing from falcon and you wouldn’t know hks role

Right? Come on and make the right call, here. Game ain’t that hard.

[Porscha]

Spoiler: show

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why me?

I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine

If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.

While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught

You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?

along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.

I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.

I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now

Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.

I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

*waits for Lag to show up*

*Lag doesn't immediately show up*

*Starts writing a note to self to remind me to hound Lag as to why he is a top-tier player but his ISO is devoid of and and all content with 3/4 of the day over*

*Gets distracted by a shiny coin, stop writing*

What was I just doing?

Nah, just put Falcon at E-1 and call it a day.

Would be funny but it’s not the kind of player I am.

Really? I thought you were pretty keen on bussing.

Oh, I am. So like from the perspective that Falcon and I are wolves, that can be expected.

Ooorrr... you could be quack-master-jacky-jack and if you bus, the mafia team might not realize you're quack-master-jacky-jack and they'd shoot you wasting a NK.

One of the two.

went thru seanzie's ISO and these are what I thought would potentially lead to why seanzie was killed first (disregarding his strong maf!falcon read)

are any of these potential reasons wolves might want him gone

Save this for later. I now know that everyone Porscha is talking about here is not a wolf.

That doesn't make Porscha a wolf. But it does mean that regardless of her alignment, Porscha is set up to push townies and I wanna see where this thought process goes.

I quoted the posts from seanzie that seemed like he was sussing another player as to point at who maybe killed him. HK and seanzie post is very revealing in retrospect. Lag and jack are still here... with 1 wolf left.... I'm less sus of lag

[Jackofhearts2005]

Good talk.

Oh I'm so sorry guy who is around 30% of the day zz

Get an easier job tbh.

And put Mizery out of herself.

[Porscha]

You really dont *know* if those people are all town. You're just putting yourself and lag in confirmed TR

[Mizery]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

[Porscha]

Good talk.

Oh I'm so sorry guy who is around 30% of the day zz

Get an easier job tbh.

And put Mizery out of herself.

Funny line

[Mizery]

Good talk.

Oh I'm so sorry guy who is around 30% of the day zz

.......................................townie?

[Porscha]

Good talk.

Oh I'm so sorry guy who is around 30% of the day zz

.......................................townie?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Yeah but by that logic, we’re all town.

You flat said you don’t care about explanations of that type when I brought up a similar point of me always shooting Mac earlier.

Which is again why it seems like you aren’t interested in actually finding wolves, just underlining or dismissing information that does or doesn’t feed into the narrative you already have.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler: show

here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why me?

I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine

If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.

While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught

You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?

along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.

I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.

I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now

Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.

I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

*waits for Lag to show up*

*Lag doesn't immediately show up*

*Starts writing a note to self to remind me to hound Lag as to why he is a top-tier player but his ISO is devoid of and and all content with 3/4 of the day over*

*Gets distracted by a shiny coin, stop writing*

What was I just doing?

Would be funny but it’s not the kind of player I am.

Really? I thought you were pretty keen on bussing.

Oh, I am. So like from the perspective that Falcon and I are wolves, that can be expected.

Ooorrr... you could be quack-master-jacky-jack and if you bus, the mafia team might not realize you're quack-master-jacky-jack and they'd shoot you wasting a NK.

One of the two.

went thru seanzie's ISO and these are what I thought would potentially lead to why seanzie was killed first (disregarding his strong maf!falcon read)

are any of these potential reasons wolves might want him gone

Save this for later. I now know that everyone Porscha is talking about here is not a wolf.

That doesn't make Porscha a wolf. But it does mean that regardless of her alignment, Porscha is set up to push townies and I wanna see where this thought process goes.

I quoted the posts from seanzie that seemed like he was sussing another player as to point at who maybe killed him. HK and seanzie post is very revealing in retrospect. Lag and jack are still here... with 1 wolf left.... I'm less sus of lag

That’s fine. I don’t suspect Lag.

[Mizery]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Yeah but by that logic, we’re all town.

You flat said you don’t care about explanations of that type when I brought up a similar point of me always shooting Mac earlier.

Which is again why it seems like you aren’t interested in actually finding wolves, just underlining or dismissing information that does or doesn’t feed into the narrative you already have.

I can link 4 games right away where LC hard townreads me and tries to prevent me from dying
can you do the same?

[Jackofhearts2005]

You really dont *know* if those people are all town. You're just putting yourself and lag in confirmed TR

I guess I missed Lag but yes, I do know my own alignment. Ended up not really mattering cause I never found you like making bad pushes on the townies in question in later posts, which was my concern.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Yeah but by that logic, we’re all town.

You flat said you don’t care about explanations of that type when I brought up a similar point of me always shooting Mac earlier.

Which is again why it seems like you aren’t interested in actually finding wolves, just underlining or dismissing information that does or doesn’t feed into the narrative you already have.

I can link 4 games right away where LC hard townreads me and tries to prevent me from dying
can you do the same?

When you were a wolf?

[Mizery]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Yeah but by that logic, we’re all town.

You flat said you don’t care about explanations of that type when I brought up a similar point of me always shooting Mac earlier.

Which is again why it seems like you aren’t interested in actually finding wolves, just underlining or dismissing information that does or doesn’t feed into the narrative you already have.

I can link 4 games right away where LC hard townreads me and tries to prevent me from dying
can you do the same?

When you were a wolf?

3 town 1 wolf

[Jackofhearts2005]

Fwiw, LC did townread Mizery upon his death. I have no idea what kind of nightkill Mizery makes in that situation.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I don't have wolf meta on lag
I never claimed to have wolf meta
my one meta comment this game has been that lag ignoring the why and looking at the what is objectively wolfy but maybe it's towny for them since they are the kind of person who relies on meta and mech to solve games, and this is a mountainous game.

Fair enough.

My point still stands though, the thunderdome between you two feels wrong in some way.

Please read lag's posts this cycle which are basically all about me and tell me if it looks like they're even trying to solve me

I... guess? From what I gather the problem you have with Lag is they are mostly reading you on meta instead of judging the things you say.

But if Lag is really good at reading your meta like they seem to think they are, shouldn't it be an acceptable approach?

[Porscha]

I need someone to figure out this game for me

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Aren't you the one who was complaining early about people doing "I never do X as a wolf" claims or was it someone else.

[Mizery]

I don't have wolf meta on lag
I never claimed to have wolf meta
my one meta comment this game has been that lag ignoring the why and looking at the what is objectively wolfy but maybe it's towny for them since they are the kind of person who relies on meta and mech to solve games, and this is a mountainous game.

Fair enough.

My point still stands though, the thunderdome between you two feels wrong in some way.

Please read lag's posts this cycle which are basically all about me and tell me if it looks like they're even trying to solve me

I... guess? From what I gather the problem you have with Lag is they are mostly reading you on meta instead of judging the things you say.

But if Lag is really good at reading your meta like they seem to think they are, shouldn't it be an acceptable approach?

yes and no?
it's not the fact that it's meta, it's the fact that they use just. flat things? Instead of things I find relevant. It's like you're saying "my push on x was pretty clearing" and the other person goes "yeah but you push wolves every game, even when you're a wolf, so that's not relevant" imo

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I need someone to figure out this game for me

Quote of the game tbh

[Mizery]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Aren't you the one who was complaining early about people doing "I never do X as a wolf" claims or was it someone else.

no that was me
and specifically at everyone going "i never kill naa here because that's a dumb kill"
I'm specifically saying that based on my past games with LC and how he's treated me, me NKing LC there would be like throwing

[Jackofhearts2005]

Ffs @Dyslexicon @Lag @Porscha

Look at my posts. Look at Mizery’s posts.

Who is pursuing their actual scumreads for actual reasons? Me.

Who is shifting their reads based on gamestate instead of scum hunting? Miz.

Who is defending his townreads with the fire of a town player who wants to win? Me.

Whose townreads evaporate into thin air as soon as the suspect her? Mizery’s.

It’s that simple. I refuse to be misyeeted when I’m obviously the townie here.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Guys can we not leave this tied when the poll locks.

If there's a tie, the mafia gets to tiebreak.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Aren't you the one who was complaining early about people doing "I never do X as a wolf" claims or was it someone else.

no that was me
and specifically at everyone going "i never kill naa here because that's a dumb kill"
I'm specifically saying that based on my past games with LC and how he's treated me, me NKing LC there would be like throwing

Except now that LC died, you can tell everyone you are spewed town because of that.

See, it's wifom. There's no such thing as an impossible kill.

[Mizery]

nah nah nah nah nah nah nah

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

[Mizery]

Dizzy, who would you yeet atp? All players you'd be willing to send over.

Rondo no matter what his alignment is, HK, Porscha (?), Mizery (?)

I literally have no fucking clue.

I think it's laughtably obvious that I'm town, but here we are.

I'm with you on Porscha (?), Mizery (?) but I can't get on board with the other two.

nah nah nah nah nahhhhhhh

[Jackofhearts2005]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Aren't you the one who was complaining early about people doing "I never do X as a wolf" claims or was it someone else.

Yep. I said I always kill Mac over NAA or LC and Mizery shot back that she doesn’t care about arguments of that type.

Now she does.

Not because that’s a logical townie way to determine alignment but because dismissing that type of argument makes it easier to scumread Jack and using it now makes it easier to argue that she’s town. It’s purely opportunistic.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

did we break mizery

[Mizery]

I mean he was obvtown, you were one of the people insisting the most on this iirc

yeah and
lol
i always kill lag or mac before lc and that shouldn't have had to be said

Aren't you the one who was complaining early about people doing "I never do X as a wolf" claims or was it someone else.

no that was me
and specifically at everyone going "i never kill naa here because that's a dumb kill"
I'm specifically saying that based on my past games with LC and how he's treated me, me NKing LC there would be like throwing

Except now that LC died, you can tell everyone you are spewed town because of that.

See, it's wifom. There's no such thing as an impossible kill.

"now that LC died"
"now that you killed LC"

[Jackofhearts2005]

You know, Mizery wasn’t really my target audience in my last several posts. :cheeky:

[Mizery]

you are NAI for me not town. I dont care what you resolve but it answers questions

Yeah, clearly all my posts this game and how I'm acting here is NAI. Can't possibly tell. Wow. So hard to know. What alignment could I ever be lol

townie????

[Porscha]

Dizzy, who would you yeet atp? All players you'd be willing to send over.

Rondo no matter what his alignment is, HK, Porscha (?), Mizery (?)

I literally have no fucking clue.

I think it's laughtably obvious that I'm town, but here we are.

I'm with you on Porscha (?), Mizery (?) but I can't get on board with the other two.

nah nah nah nah nahhhhhhh

Well wolves dont know who 3p is so it isnt telling that he didnt go on HK?

[Mizery]

You know, Mizery wasn’t really my target audience in my last several posts. :cheeky:

donno why you think it wasn't blatant that arguing that i was a wolf wasn't meant for me.....

[Porscha]

Wdym wolves break the tie

[Jackofhearts2005]

I just subconsciously love 3P roles ofc

[Jackofhearts2005]

You know, Mizery wasn’t really my target audience in my last several posts. :cheeky:

donno why you think it wasn't blatant that arguing that i was a wolf wasn't meant for me.....

The joke is that you were the only person to switch off me or onto you.

[Mizery]

guess I'm back on jack