Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]

[Creature]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have tried reading this four or five times and every time I start I cant be bothered finishing it. Ear marked for later

I am long-winded, Rondo. I have much to say. Take it in at your own pace.

[Alison]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

Yes. I have never known him to have a mafia game where he was not eager - if I remember correctly, the first time I ever played with him I (incorrectly) wolfread him because his eagerness seemed so over the top I was convinced it was faked.

[Creature]

Ok I townread Alison here. Feels very different from the game where she was wolf, but can't point why.

[Alison]

I do townread JJJ but not for that reason.

[robyn]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

[Creature]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

Yes. I have never known him to have a mafia game where he was not eager - if I remember correctly, the first time I ever played with him I (incorrectly) wolfread him because his eagerness seemed so over the top I was convinced it was faked.

I tend to wolfread experienced players for being eager (for some reason most of them prefer wolfing because less effort?), but meh.

[Alison]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

As opposed to games with strangers, where he acts as scummy as possible.

[Alison]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

Yes. I have never known him to have a mafia game where he was not eager - if I remember correctly, the first time I ever played with him I (incorrectly) wolfread him because his eagerness seemed so over the top I was convinced it was faked.

I tend to wolfread experienced players for being eager (for some reason most of them prefer wolfing because less effort?), but meh.

Most mafia players, in my experience, prefer being town to wolf, regardless of experience level. I am one of the exceptions, but I definitely wouldn't wolfread someone for being eager.

[Creature]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

and also players who may just wolfread him for being the most experienced.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have a related observation for you, @Creature. You strike me as less than eager. Spiritually that is typical of your language, but I did anticipate more activity. Are you comfortable?

[robyn]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

As opposed to games with strangers, where he acts as scummy as possible.

he'd get away with more, therefore he'd act more scummy. implying he'll be less scummy as a wolf with experienced players who know how he plays town/mafia

[robyn]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

and also players who may just wolfread him for being the most experienced.

I dealt with that in my homesite

[Creature]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

Yes. I have never known him to have a mafia game where he was not eager - if I remember correctly, the first time I ever played with him I (incorrectly) wolfread him because his eagerness seemed so over the top I was convinced it was faked.

I tend to wolfread experienced players for being eager (for some reason most of them prefer wolfing because less effort?), but meh.

Most mafia players, in my experience, prefer being town to wolf, regardless of experience level. I am one of the exceptions, but I definitely wouldn't wolfread someone for being eager.

I thought the opposite based on my experience.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

I actually like this post

[Creature]

You strike me as less than eager.

Yes, I guess I got a bad rep of always moaning about the game being unfun.

I can get surges of WIM when I feel like the game is going in a good direction though.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I always used to say that I have no preference between rolling town or mafia, but these days that's probably a lie I would tell myself to assuage my ego. I play Mafia mostly for the solving.

[RondoDimBuckle]

You strike me as less than eager.

Yes, I guess I got a bad rep of always moaning about the game being unfun.

I can get surges of WIM when I feel like the game is going in a good direction though.

be the fun you want to see in the world

[NateTheLesser]

What do you like about Boq or Lucy specifically? Is Seanzie slipping your radar or you just don't think his posts are AI?

Boq - I liked that he was reading the thread and replying to things before he made his introduction post. Didn't seem concerned with Making An Entrance.

Lucy - Seems a little less.. intense(?) than her qualifier, a little more comfortable. Trying to get a sense of the player list in an inquisitive way.

Seanzie the most notable thing for me so far was being included in JJJ's list. I'm not saying I disagree with him being in there, just that nothing stood out to me in particular.

[Alison]

I always used to say that I have no preference between rolling town or mafia, but these days that's probably a lie I would tell myself to assuage my ego. I play Mafia mostly for the solving.

Thoughts on Rondo?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

I actually like this post

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

[Creature]

I think Boq seemed fine too, but slightly weaker than Alison.

[RondoDimBuckle]

What do you like about Boq or Lucy specifically? Is Seanzie slipping your radar or you just don't think his posts are AI?

Boq - I liked that he was reading the thread and replying to things before he made his introduction post. Didn't seem concerned with Making An Entrance.

Lucy - Seems a little less.. intense(?) than her qualifier, a little more comfortable. Trying to get a sense of the player list in an inquisitive way.

Seanzie the most notable thing for me so far was being included in JJJ's list. I'm not saying I disagree with him being in there, just that nothing stood out to me in particular.

what about me how am I going?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

I actually like this post

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I always used to say that I have no preference between rolling town or mafia, but these days that's probably a lie I would tell myself to assuage my ego. I play Mafia mostly for the solving.

Thoughts on Rondo?

So far Rondo is a bit of a clash of micro and macro. A couple little moments have piqued my attention (e.g., the whole talking about TV as a pocket thing) for seeming hyperbolic, for lack of a better word. I wouldn't call Rondo a town read at least.

[robyn]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

I actually like this post

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

I don't think he has any further reasoning lol

[Alison]

What do you mean "micro and macro"?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I always used to say that I have no preference between rolling town or mafia, but these days that's probably a lie I would tell myself to assuage my ego. I play Mafia mostly for the solving.

Thoughts on Rondo?

So far Rondo is a bit of a clash of micro and macro. A couple little moments have piqued my attention (e.g., the whole talking about TV as a pocket thing) for seeming hyperbolic, for lack of a better word. I wouldn't call Rondo a town read at least.

TV?

[robyn]

what did you think it was?

I thought we were just talking

check out Robert Eggars if you want very good films to make you feel very uncomfortable

trying to get in my pocket are you? Or is it put me in yours? I dont know all the lingo yet but Im watching you

I have had people who I got into a good talk about good tv shows before put a blind spot on me because I didnt want to figure out their slot because we were enjoying each others company. They were wolf and we lost so hard, so I am not letting anything innocent pass

this

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What do you mean "micro and macro"?

Aforementioned "little moments" are micro. Macro, I acknowledge that the guy has made more posts than anyone in the game short maybe of lucy. I can't say he's uncomfortable.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

I actually like this post

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

I don't think he has any further reasoning lol

Oh, well since you noticed.

I didnt like your mech talk and your big old "lets be towny town" post so I have been keeping my eye on your lack of substance but that post was a fair call to a good question. So now I am back to !rand

[JaggedJimmyJay]

TV?

Your exchange with Lucy from early in Day 0. Movies or TV or somate

[RondoDimBuckle]

what did you think it was?

I thought we were just talking

check out Robert Eggars if you want very good films to make you feel very uncomfortable

trying to get in my pocket are you? Or is it put me in yours? I dont know all the lingo yet but Im watching you

I have had people who I got into a good talk about good tv shows before put a blind spot on me because I didnt want to figure out their slot because we were enjoying each others company. They were wolf and we lost so hard, so I am not letting anything innocent pass

this

I always used to say that I have no preference between rolling town or mafia, but these days that's probably a lie I would tell myself to assuage my ego. I play Mafia mostly for the solving.

Thoughts on Rondo?

So far Rondo is a bit of a clash of micro and macro. A couple little moments have piqued my attention (e.g., the whole talking about TV as a pocket thing) for seeming hyperbolic, for lack of a better word. I wouldn't call Rondo a town read at least.

TV?

Here I was thinking it was more forum mafia acronyms

[robyn]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

I actually like this post

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

I don't think he has any further reasoning lol

Oh, well since you noticed.

I didnt like your mech talk and your big old "lets be towny town" post so I have been keeping my eye on your lack of substance but that post was a fair call to a good question. So now I am back to !rand

so you didn't have any reasoning? then why send the message?

[RondoDimBuckle]

What do you mean "micro and macro"?

Aforementioned "little moments" are micro. Macro, I acknowledge that the guy has made more posts than anyone in the game short maybe of lucy. I can't say he's uncomfortable.

Talking about me like I am not here

[RondoDimBuckle]

Is it a bad idea to read JJJ based on how eager he seems to be?

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

I actually like this post

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

I don't think he has any further reasoning lol

Oh, well since you noticed.

I didnt like your mech talk and your big old "lets be towny town" post so I have been keeping my eye on your lack of substance but that post was a fair call to a good question. So now I am back to !rand

so you didn't have any reasoning? then why send the message?

What? I just went through my reasoning

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Talking about me like I am not here

You're here, Rondo. And I'm here. Let's be here.

[Alison]

What do you mean "micro and macro"?

Aforementioned "little moments" are micro. Macro, I acknowledge that the guy has made more posts than anyone in the game short maybe of lucy. I can't say he's uncomfortable.

He has 77 posts and I can't think of a single game-related opinion he has other than being slightly suspicious of Lucy for talking about TV too much and then saying he liked a post of Lucy's later on. I don't know if the quantity of his posting is a plus there.

[RondoDimBuckle]

What do you mean "micro and macro"?

Aforementioned "little moments" are micro. Macro, I acknowledge that the guy has made more posts than anyone in the game short maybe of lucy. I can't say he's uncomfortable.

He has 77 posts and I can't think of a single game-related opinion he has other than being slightly suspicious of Lucy for talking about TV too much and then saying he liked a post of Lucy's later on. I don't know if the quantity of his posting is a plus there.

>expecting me to care about N0 when I dont even care about D1

[robyn]

he'll do nothing out of his "town range" because he's playing with players who know him very well

I actually like this post

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

I don't think he has any further reasoning lol

Oh, well since you noticed.

I didnt like your mech talk and your big old "lets be towny town" post so I have been keeping my eye on your lack of substance but that post was a fair call to a good question. So now I am back to !rand

so you didn't have any reasoning? then why send the message?

What? I just went through my reasoning

oh I thought you meant the "I don't think he has any further reasoning" message for some reason

[Alison]

What do you think of me Rondo?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I actually like this post

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

I don't think he has any further reasoning lol

Oh, well since you noticed.

I didnt like your mech talk and your big old "lets be towny town" post so I have been keeping my eye on your lack of substance but that post was a fair call to a good question. So now I am back to !rand

so you didn't have any reasoning? then why send the message?

What? I just went through my reasoning

oh I thought you meant the "I don't think he has any further reasoning" message for some reason

How do you have trouble remembering something You said?

[Alison]

What do you mean "micro and macro"?

Aforementioned "little moments" are micro. Macro, I acknowledge that the guy has made more posts than anyone in the game short maybe of lucy. I can't say he's uncomfortable.

He has 77 posts and I can't think of a single game-related opinion he has other than being slightly suspicious of Lucy for talking about TV too much and then saying he liked a post of Lucy's later on. I don't know if the quantity of his posting is a plus there.

>expecting me to care about N0 when I dont even care about D1

I can buy that someone might be willing to chill through D0 and not give a fuck. I'm just saying it's not a sign of townieness to do so.

[RondoDimBuckle]

What do you think of me Rondo?

!rand I dont trust you as much as I dont trust Ender

[robyn]

Is this a view you could expand on just briefly please and thanks

I don't think he has any further reasoning lol

Oh, well since you noticed.

I didnt like your mech talk and your big old "lets be towny town" post so I have been keeping my eye on your lack of substance but that post was a fair call to a good question. So now I am back to !rand

so you didn't have any reasoning? then why send the message?

What? I just went through my reasoning

oh I thought you meant the "I don't think he has any further reasoning" message for some reason

How do you have trouble remembering something You said?

I have zero trouble remembering, thought you were referring to a different message

[RondoDimBuckle]

What do you mean "micro and macro"?

Aforementioned "little moments" are micro. Macro, I acknowledge that the guy has made more posts than anyone in the game short maybe of lucy. I can't say he's uncomfortable.

He has 77 posts and I can't think of a single game-related opinion he has other than being slightly suspicious of Lucy for talking about TV too much and then saying he liked a post of Lucy's later on. I don't know if the quantity of his posting is a plus there.

>expecting me to care about N0 when I dont even care about D1

I can buy that someone might be willing to chill through D0 and not give a fuck. I'm just saying it's not a sign of townieness to do so.

never said it was.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I don't think he has any further reasoning lol

Oh, well since you noticed.

I didnt like your mech talk and your big old "lets be towny town" post so I have been keeping my eye on your lack of substance but that post was a fair call to a good question. So now I am back to !rand

so you didn't have any reasoning? then why send the message?

What? I just went through my reasoning

oh I thought you meant the "I don't think he has any further reasoning" message for some reason

How do you have trouble remembering something You said?

I have zero trouble remembering, thought you were referring to a different message

ok maybe I am a bit confused as well lets take a step back on this one and re-assess

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've played with a lot of players who come from chat mafia - they are almost always chatty and comfortable in that chattiness, regardless of alignment. I think the fact that Lucy is refusing to make reads and is just talking about TV shows means that I'd expect her to be comfortable even if she was a wolf.

I townread her for a post she made afterwards where she asked Seanzie about his age. I think her worrying about adjusting her perspective on his tone based on his age was a sincere thought, and it's not something that many people, especially forum mafia newbies, would think to fake. It reflects a desire to get things right, which I guess is sorta close to what you said about her wanting to make a mark. I'm with you on Lucy right now.

I appreciate this from Alison in a gears-are-turning sense. Despite landing at a similar conclusion to mine about lucy, she expressed some doubt about the process that led me there and didn't merely shrug it away without first engaging the dialogue with me. This serves to provide depth for both of our reads on lucy.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Oh, well since you noticed.

I didnt like your mech talk and your big old "lets be towny town" post so I have been keeping my eye on your lack of substance but that post was a fair call to a good question. So now I am back to !rand

so you didn't have any reasoning? then why send the message?

What? I just went through my reasoning

oh I thought you meant the "I don't think he has any further reasoning" message for some reason

How do you have trouble remembering something You said?

I have zero trouble remembering, thought you were referring to a different message

ok maybe I am a bit confused as well lets take a step back on this one and re-assess

me thinking I caught Lucy in a headspace slip when its just a miscom

[robyn]

ok maybe I am a bit confused as well lets take a step back on this one and re-assess
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let's drop it, if ur down