Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Alright, well I got shit to do.

Vote doom

[Seanzie]

On my computer, poll says 1am and most recent post says 10:59pm so it should be 2 hours.

[RondoDimBuckle]

On my computer, poll says 1am and most recent post says 10:59pm so it should be 2 hours.

good point

[LinearPoint]

Yeah the pool should be accurate for your timezone.

[MartinGG99]

when I went to sleep

was genuinely not expecting thread to double in size over 8-ish hours

anyways I was thinking more about Marmot + Seanzie

and I was suspecting that the latter is town (primarily on the basis that, even though I found the reasons to be dubious, doesn't look like nearly all d1 !wolf seanzies I have seen)

and the former to be suspicious of given that I don't think anything Marmot has done is towny for him; he is one of the most successful wolfs on The Syndicate iirc and him jumping between Seanzie and I earlier makes me sus of him

lets see if the last roughly 250 posts support that

[LinearPoint]

Ah, see you failed to account for Mac waking up.

[MartinGG99]

Sorting GTH without much thought.

LinearPoint

Marmot
Stupid Sexy Flanders

RondoDimBuckle
DaughterOfOmega
Cobalt
MacDougall
Creature

falcon45ca
Porscha

MartinGG99

A lot more nulls than I'd prefer, but I suppose that comes with the slower start to the game and a few people not having really started playing. Even though this doesn't really show up on this sort, I've kind of softened on Martin a bit, when I was pressuring them, they didn't just focus on defending themselves and continued to give reads on the game around them, which I think was kind of a good look. They were still very reactionary in a way that I think is scummy, but I am kind of worried about a different possibility as well. Still kind of okay with my vote, but would really like to hear from some of the low posters to help sort that null group.

@Seanzie what makes you see !town marmot here

hopefully you're still around before EoD to share because I wanna figure out who's not being genuine in handling my slot

[MartinGG99]

(above post) @Seanzie

forgot you actually have to click the name suggestion in order for it to do the mention

[Marmot]

I'd rather make it clear that I believe Marmot is Mafia and that he should be the actual lynch even if no one agrees.

The whole "it's inactive so you shouldn't vote them" is a stupid argument anyways. I'll vote scum when I want to vote scum. Fucking sue me.

I don't think that was clear to anyone.

[MartinGG99]

"that isn't an assumption when I say think lol" sorry it's the same thing to me and i'm not about to get into some dumb linguistical debate over it. if you "think" something you don't know, you're also "assuming" the thing you don't know. same thing

well I like being quite articulate/percise with what I say where I can

so I'm going to counter-argue pointlessly regardless

people don't think on things that don't have proof

Assume (Google): "suppose to be the case, without proof"

Assume (Merriam-Webster): "to take as granted or true"

Assume (dictionary.com): "to take for granted or without proof"

[Marmot]

when I went to sleep

was genuinely not expecting thread to double in size over 8-ish hours

anyways I was thinking more about Marmot + Seanzie

and I was suspecting that the latter is town (primarily on the basis that, even though I found the reasons to be dubious, doesn't look like nearly all d1 !wolf seanzies I have seen)

and the former to be suspicious of given that I don't think anything Marmot has done is towny for him; he is one of the most successful wolfs on The Syndicate iirc and him jumping between Seanzie and I earlier makes me sus of him

lets see if the last roughly 250 posts support that

I haven't won a game as wolf since 2020 (and that's in like 9 attempts), I don't think anyone would call me a good wolf.

[MartinGG99]

Although I don't know if its proof, but I do know what I generating my suspicion on is quite possibly proof. That's the whole nature of social deception games.

[Marmot]

Martin, when did I jump between you and sean? I don't think I've suspected sean at all this game?

[MartinGG99]

when I went to sleep

was genuinely not expecting thread to double in size over 8-ish hours

anyways I was thinking more about Marmot + Seanzie

and I was suspecting that the latter is town (primarily on the basis that, even though I found the reasons to be dubious, doesn't look like nearly all d1 !wolf seanzies I have seen)

and the former to be suspicious of given that I don't think anything Marmot has done is towny for him; he is one of the most successful wolfs on The Syndicate iirc and him jumping between Seanzie and I earlier makes me sus of him

lets see if the last roughly 250 posts support that

I haven't won a game as wolf since 2020 (and that's in like 9 attempts), I don't think anyone would call me a good wolf.

oh

well I guess maybe that's less relevant in recent years

there was a discord announcement or message once saying you were preety high on the total mafia wins board or something iirc

[MartinGG99]

Martin, when did I jump between you and sean? I don't think I've suspected sean at all this game?

Between these two posts

technically jumped to and from a mac vote, but this all happened in the time-span of an hour

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: seaneize] aubergine

Y'all should vote Martin.

Why martin?

His take on Flanders didn't really seem like "let me pull us out of fluff" and instead felt like he was coming in too hot to a game that wasn't hot yet. Like he had something to prove.

Do you think that is AI?

Part of why I ask is that I remember a scenario where Dizzy suspected you for a very similar thing (It was the Mad 17er setup) in a game on MU last year, and you were town in that scenario (and he was a wolf).

I remember the game (it was on MafC, not MU, but whatever), and I do see how you could draw a parallel, but I still think you should vote Martin.

Oops, that's what I meant.

But I am now thoroughly convinced. [VOTE: martin] aubergine

[Marmot]

when I went to sleep

was genuinely not expecting thread to double in size over 8-ish hours

anyways I was thinking more about Marmot + Seanzie

and I was suspecting that the latter is town (primarily on the basis that, even though I found the reasons to be dubious, doesn't look like nearly all d1 !wolf seanzies I have seen)

and the former to be suspicious of given that I don't think anything Marmot has done is towny for him; he is one of the most successful wolfs on The Syndicate iirc and him jumping between Seanzie and I earlier makes me sus of him

lets see if the last roughly 250 posts support that

I haven't won a game as wolf since 2020 (and that's in like 9 attempts), I don't think anyone would call me a good wolf.

oh

well I guess maybe that's less relevant in recent years

there was a discord announcement or message once saying you were preety high on the total mafia wins board or something iirc

I've been here since 2014 and played a lot, which kinda skews those numbers.

I used to win as wolf more, but my playstyle has adapted to be less abrasive/shitposty/fluffy than it used to be, and more conducive to teamwork, and my wolf game suffered in the process. Bad luck has probably played a minor role too.

[Marmot]

Martin, when did I jump between you and sean? I don't think I've suspected sean at all this game?

Between these two posts

technically jumped to and from a mac vote, but this all happened in the time-span of an hour

Spoiler: show

[VOTE: seaneize] aubergine

Y'all should vote Martin.

Why martin?

His take on Flanders didn't really seem like "let me pull us out of fluff" and instead felt like he was coming in too hot to a game that wasn't hot yet. Like he had something to prove.

Do you think that is AI?

Part of why I ask is that I remember a scenario where Dizzy suspected you for a very similar thing (It was the Mad 17er setup) in a game on MU last year, and you were town in that scenario (and he was a wolf).

I remember the game (it was on MafC, not MU, but whatever), and I do see how you could draw a parallel, but I still think you should vote Martin.

Oops, that's what I meant.

But I am now thoroughly convinced. [VOTE: martin] aubergine

That was a joke vote, I had no suspicion of him.

[MartinGG99]

Sigh.

I got 50 minutes to think and I feel like I need more of that.

DO NOT reanimate/revive me. I am just a civilian/citizen and so it would be a waste, as compared to using it on the PR or other people.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Sigh.

I got 50 minutes to think and I feel like I need more of that.

DO NOT reanimate/revive me. I am just a civilian/citizen and so it would be a waste, as compared to using it on the PR or other people.
thats good to know me too

What did you think of my big conspiracy post?

[Marmot]

What does the chart in your conspiracy post mean Rondo? I forgot to ask.

[RondoDimBuckle]

What does the chart in your conspiracy post mean Rondo? I forgot to ask.

Its a visual representation on how I got to my reads on who thought what on who by analysing the state of the game. Forcing people to either accept my statement as true because their words back it up. Or rebut me and prove why they are false.

[RondoDimBuckle]

What does the chart in your conspiracy post mean Rondo? I forgot to ask.

Its a visual representation on how I got to my reads on who thought what on who by analysing the state of the game. Forcing people to either accept my statement as true because their words back it up. Or rebut me and prove why they are false.

@Marmot if you ever reply to it and correct/agree with it?

[MartinGG99]

Seanzie
Trimmed and Modified for space, thanks for the read list so I dont have to do more work. I suggest you go read the post to gain full context

Spoiler: show

LinearPoint

Marmot - Town
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town

RondoDimBuckle - Nothing
DaughterOfOmega - Nothing
Cobalt - Nothing
MacDougall - Nothing
Creature - Nothing

falcon45ca - Wolf
Porscha - Wolf

MartinGG99 - Wolf

The only thing I find off about Seanzies read list is that Marmot does a complete flip from his previous wolf read to town but its early days so I dont begrudge him a flip

Martin

Spoiler: show

Rondo - Town

Falcon - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Marmot - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Creature - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Linear - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Porcha - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him

Cobalt - Nothing
Omega - Nothing
Mac - Nothing

Flanders - Wolf
Seanzie - Wolf

What strikes me as odd from Martin is that there is a lot of piling on BUT he has been one of the most active in chat and has almost no reads on people, no shades, no town reads or leans. Its all just Seanzie and him going at it.

Falcon

Spoiler: show

Seanzie - Town

Creature - Nothing
Mac - Nothing
Rondo - Nothing
Porcha - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Cobalt - Nothing
Linear - Nothing
Flanders - Nothing
Martin - Nothing

Omega - Wolf
Marmot - Wolf

Pops into thread, two wolf reads and a town read, not amazing not terrible I guess

Marmot

Spoiler: show

Falcon - Town
Seanzie - Town
Rondo - Town
Porcha - Town

Flanders - Nothing - Despite them town reading him
Linear - Nothing
Cobalt - Nothing
Omega - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Mac - Nothing
Creature - Nothing - Despite them town reading him

Martin - Wolf

Creature

Spoiler: show

Marmot - Town
Seanzie - Town

Falcon - Nothing/Town?
Rondo - Nothing
Linsear - Nothing

Cobalt - Wolf
Mac - Wolf
Omega - Wolf
Martin - Wolf
Flanders - Wolf
Porcha - Wolf
A Ridiculous number of wolves to look at. half the lobby

Mac

Spoiler: show

Nothing to say, not ideal for Mac at this point. I would vote him but he could be busy, who ever pointed that out could be a wolf partner but it seems like such bad wolf play. NAI but scum lean

Omega

Spoiler: show

Rondo - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Porcha - Nothing
Cobalt - Nothing
Linear - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Flanders - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Martin - Nothing
Seanzie - Nothing
Falcon - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Creature - Nothing

Marmot - Wolf
Mac - wolf

Porcha

Spoiler: show

Rondo - Town? This is an implied reading not direct

Seanzie - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading her
Marmot - Nothing

Omega - Wolf
Mac - Wolf
Cobalt - Wolf
Creature - Wolf
Flanders - Wolf
Linear - Wolf
Falcon - Wolf
Martin - Wolf

A whole lot of wolf here and not enough town. They are all light suses but she seems to not be willing to give any town cred and happy to shade

Cobalt

Spoiler: show

Nothing to say, I could vote here, I dont know cobalt so its NAI but scum lean

Linear

Spoiler: show

Cobalt - Nothing
Porcha - Nothing
Mac - Nothing
Marmot - Nothing
Falcon - Nothing
Seanzie - Nothing - Despite them town reading them
Creature - Nothing

Flanders - Wolf
Rondo - Wolf
Omega - Wolf
Martin - Wolf

Whole bunch of wolf, no town in sight.

Flanders

Spoiler: show

Marmot - Town
Porcha - Town

Falcon - Nothing
Mac - Nothing
Martin - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Cobalt - Nothing
Linear - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Creature - Nothing - Despite them wolf reading him
Seanzie - Nothing - Despite them town reading him

Omega - Wolf
Rondo - Wolf

A whole lot of not pushing back into reads to figure out what people think and why and how they got there.

Rondo
As everyone probably guessed, the first read was total bullshit here is the proper read

Spoiler: show

Seanzie - trying to be helpful so I town read him for that right now. But its provisional on catching pelts (Could be deep wolf? Tinfoil later)
Porcha - Much worse than creature, I liked her entrance and her poking but she needs to start getting some town reads and not just poking people around. I want to call her town but I need more action.
Marmot - Doing well enough, giving out some good town reads and some wolf sus. Needs to respond to people and push more but I am liking the content
Creature - As much as he is sussing half the lobby his content feels like normal creature, no agenda right now just poking people, if he doesnt kick into gear later, he will drop
Omega - I hated their entrance but their lack of drive doesnt indicate wolf behaviour to me. The mega chad "I in a good position" post is hilarious but Neutral
Falcon - Neutral, he can be wolf but he is currently in rand and has had some good posts.
Mac - Actually below falcon, never thought I would see the day. Neutral still
Cobalt - Less willing to give benefit of the doubt, not calling wolf just yet
Flanders - I feel like he has an Angenda in pushing me but he has outed some good reads but I need more action
Linear - Same problem as porcha, but the stalling early when I was fake pushing her wasnt a good look.
Martin - I am not going to protect as long as he is willing to just battle it out with seanzie and not actually go for any decent reads or game state analysis (slightly in POE)

In short at this moment my day 1 reads are
Town: Seanzie / Porcha / Marmot
Wolves Martin / Linear / Flanders

Probably terrible reads but we will see what happens and how people react

MM.PNG

re: myself

I don't think LP has wolf-read me? They basically went and said "ah yes this is characteristically Martin but I haven't seen evil martin soooo idk", at least from what I've read before. Creature has vote me but I wasn't awake for that, I'm probably not going to consider him because I'm fairly sure I will never accurately read Creature based on how Creature plays games both as town and as wolf, I think.

As for the rest, I've been debating them all except my read on you. You're the only one I'm confident about.

[RondoDimBuckle]

re: myself

I don't think LP has wolf-read me? They basically went and said "ah yes this is characteristically Martin but I haven't seen evil martin soooo idk", at least from what I've read before. Creature has vote me but I wasn't awake for that, I'm probably not going to consider him because I'm fairly sure I will never accurately read Creature based on how Creature plays games both as town and as wolf, I think.

As for the rest, I've been debating them all except my read on you. You're the only one I'm confident about.

could you articulate that for posterities sake?

[MartinGG99]

re: myself

I don't think LP has wolf-read me? They basically went and said "ah yes this is characteristically Martin but I haven't seen evil martin soooo idk", at least from what I've read before. Creature has vote me but I wasn't awake for that, I'm probably not going to consider him because I'm fairly sure I will never accurately read Creature based on how Creature plays games both as town and as wolf, I think.

As for the rest, I've been debating them all except my read on you. You're the only one I'm confident about.

could you articulate that for posterities sake?

Creature acts detached or plays in a way that is detached very frequently imo, and a lot of the reads I make tend to assume that whatever X or Y did was because they saw some value or were invested in it. In other words, I'm more suited for reading people who play the game normally. Not lurk and say odd things such as "have we found a wolf yet". Even if I did attempt to read such players, could never be confident about it. This is also kinda why I'm confident in seeing you town. You are very invested into this, or at least more than most people here.

I think I've articulated my thought on LP.

Anyways my problem for my reads in general is that I don't work well with games that have low amounts of posts. For most of d1 there were less than 200 posts, and I've only JUST now had a decent amount of information that maybe I could work something out and be confident in. Considering how my last town game went, which had less posts than this, I remain largely uncertain about what I say or think. That, and its slightly demoralizing to see a number of people disagree with me and anything I say or do (or at least it feels like that -- I haven't kept track).

My hope is that this D1 provides enough for the strongest town players (whoever they are) to catch the wolves.

[RondoDimBuckle]

re: myself

I don't think LP has wolf-read me? They basically went and said "ah yes this is characteristically Martin but I haven't seen evil martin soooo idk", at least from what I've read before. Creature has vote me but I wasn't awake for that, I'm probably not going to consider him because I'm fairly sure I will never accurately read Creature based on how Creature plays games both as town and as wolf, I think.

As for the rest, I've been debating them all except my read on you. You're the only one I'm confident about.

could you articulate that for posterities sake?

Creature acts detached or plays in a way that is detached very frequently imo, and a lot of the reads I make tend to assume that whatever X or Y did was because they saw some value or were invested in it. In other words, I'm more suited for reading people who play the game normally. Not lurk and say odd things such as "have we found a wolf yet". Even if I did attempt to read such players, could never be confident about it. This is also kinda why I'm confident in seeing you town. You are very invested into this, or at least more than most people here.

I think I've articulated my thought on LP.

Anyways my problem for my reads in general is that I don't work well with games that have low amounts of posts. For most of d1 there were less than 200 posts, and I've only JUST now had a decent amount of information that maybe I could work something out and be confident in. Considering how my last town game went, which had less posts than this, I remain largely uncertain about what I say or think. That, and its slightly demoralizing to see a number of people disagree with me and anything I say or do (or at least it feels like that -- I haven't kept track).

My hope is that this D1 provides enough for the strongest town players (whoever they are) to catch the wolves.

say you are right, Seanzie is Wolf. Who is his partner based on what you have seen?

[MartinGG99]

re: myself

I don't think LP has wolf-read me? They basically went and said "ah yes this is characteristically Martin but I haven't seen evil martin soooo idk", at least from what I've read before. Creature has vote me but I wasn't awake for that, I'm probably not going to consider him because I'm fairly sure I will never accurately read Creature based on how Creature plays games both as town and as wolf, I think.

As for the rest, I've been debating them all except my read on you. You're the only one I'm confident about.

could you articulate that for posterities sake?

Creature acts detached or plays in a way that is detached very frequently imo, and a lot of the reads I make tend to assume that whatever X or Y did was because they saw some value or were invested in it. In other words, I'm more suited for reading people who play the game normally. Not lurk and say odd things such as "have we found a wolf yet". Even if I did attempt to read such players, could never be confident about it. This is also kinda why I'm confident in seeing you town. You are very invested into this, or at least more than most people here.

I think I've articulated my thought on LP.

Anyways my problem for my reads in general is that I don't work well with games that have low amounts of posts. For most of d1 there were less than 200 posts, and I've only JUST now had a decent amount of information that maybe I could work something out and be confident in. Considering how my last town game went, which had less posts than this, I remain largely uncertain about what I say or think. That, and its slightly demoralizing to see a number of people disagree with me and anything I say or do (or at least it feels like that -- I haven't kept track).

My hope is that this D1 provides enough for the strongest town players (whoever they are) to catch the wolves.

say you are right, Seanzie is Wolf. Who is his partner based on what you have seen?

Well if we're assuming that Seanzie is wolf

I think its possibly Flanders. Not that because I scum-read flanders, but I do think !wolf Seanzie's play to go "ah yes we should push Martin around d1" to be a bit off, especially with how it has been conducted. Though I can't quite describe it. Part of that is just feeling, but also part of that is from experience where d1 !wolf Seanzie has been relatively removed from the game. If my memory is functional, the Avatar game and one other game on The Syndicate showed that. Seanzie deciding to dive into me, which will likely get him to be more active d1 than he normally is when wolf (at least in the games I've seen !wolf seanzie) is just strange.

There must have been some value in pushing me around. Otherwise, I don't get it. I suspect that if Seanzie did fear me as wolf, he would've also believed that an RVS push on me would lead nowhere. Or at least that's how it should have lead but it turns out I'm not so great in making myself look town when town.

[MartinGG99]

errrr

[MartinGG99]

errrr

I suspect that if Seanzie did fear me as wolf when I am town,

ebwop

ebwop ebwop

[RondoDimBuckle]

Spoiler: show

Who's cursing the town!?!
Poll runs till Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Porscha
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
2
15%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, MacDougall
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DaughterOfOmega
4
31%
Voters: Stupid Sexy Flanders, Marmot, Seanzie, falcon45ca
MartinGG99
2
15%
Voters: Porscha, Creature
MacDougall
1
8%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega
Seanzie
1
8%
Voters: MartinGG99
Marmot
1
8%
Voters: LinearPoint
LinearPoint
0
No votes
Voters: None
Cobalt
0
No votes
Voters: None
Stupid Sexy Flanders
0
No votes

[MartinGG99]

without having read much past p#300:

town

rondo
LP
seanzie
marmot <- sorta-null-point
porscha
SSF
Falcon


scum


creature - creature
mac - hadn't really posted at the time
cobalt - gone

[MartinGG99]

Welp, time to regret that I screwed up my sleep schedule.

Also Falcon is odd for agreeing about me but going off vanity wagon?

idk quick thought

[MartinGG99]

woops forgot doom too sorry

[DrWilgy]

Locking Thread. Further posting will getcha a bonkin.

[DrWilgy]

END OF DAY 1

The sun sets, a verdict reached. DaughterOfOmega was to receive trial by stone.

They did not survive.

DaughterOfOmega has been yeeted. They were a member of the TOWN.

The body was buried in the local cemetery. I do hope it rests in peace.

~~~

It is now Night 1. You have 21 hours to submit night actions.
Shortening the night a teeny bit to make up for me setting the previous poll time incorrectly.

[DrWilgy]

Day 1 Poll:

Spoiler: show

Who's cursing the town!?!
Poll ended at Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:00 am


falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Porscha
0
No votes
Voters: None
RondoDimBuckle
2
15%
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, MacDougall
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DaughterOfOmega
4
31%
Voters: Stupid Sexy Flanders, Marmot, Seanzie, falcon45ca
MartinGG99
2
15%
Voters: Porscha, Creature
MacDougall
1
8%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega
Seanzie
1
8%
Voters: MartinGG99
Marmot
1
8%
Voters: LinearPoint
LinearPoint
0
No votes
Voters: None
Cobalt
0
No votes
Voters: None
Stupid Sexy Flanders
0
No votes
Voters: None
Woogy! (host, mods, np, dead)
2
15%
Voters: DrWilgy, JaggedJimmyJay

[DrWilgy]

ISO links have been added to the player list.

[DrWilgy]

END OF NIGHT 1

The town wakes up to a foggy morning.

Standing in attendance, there is one missing and one unexpected.

MacDougall has been yeeted. He was a member of the TOWN.

DaughterOfOmega has been resurrected.

Mac’s remains have been cleaned and put in a nice ziploc baggie. Let’s keep them there.

~~~

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to find who killed Mac.

The 2 players with the highest vote totals will be yeeted.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Are you kidding me? I had a green check on Mac so I didnt have to go into today tinfoiling him

[Marmot]

I also had a greencheck on Mac. Funny that.

[Marmot]

DOOM are you town again?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I also had a greencheck on Mac. Funny that.

My night action was successful. was yours?

[Porscha]

DOOM are you town again?

even if she wasn't she's gonna say yes lmao why even bother asking

[Seanzie]

Kinda curious to see how DoOm is today, considering that idk what to think about these resurrection mechanics, but in terms of using our two elims, it might make sense to avoid her since we know for a fact that there are at least three non-town elements in the 10 people who haven't died and come back to life, so we have a decent chance of hitting at least one if both our elims are in that group.

[LinearPoint]

Honestly the 1 death is surprising. I kind of expected a lot more night kills in a game with resurrecting.

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Vote Rondo

[Porscha]

i'm gonna be real I kinda hate all day 2 entry posts so far

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

i'm gonna be real I kinda hate all day 2 entry posts so far

I like mine

[Porscha]

i'm gonna be real I kinda hate all day 2 entry posts so far

I like mine

would you be interested in elaborating on it

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

i'm gonna be real I kinda hate all day 2 entry posts so far

I like mine

would you be interested in elaborating on it

Rondo is mafia