Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]

[robyn]

Can I get some GTH reads on Nate?

very analytical and matter of fact, without any following conjecture I scum lean

[Marmot]

Putting this vote down for now:
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

My top suspect is still Fingersplints for the same reasons as yesterday, with the additional point that Seanzie was pushing her for a time yesterday and is now dead. But I also want some more heat on Creature. I know a few people have voiced a townread, so I'm interested in hearing more about whether it's because he's playing to his town meta or something more than that.

Fair, but Sean did press a lot of people yesterday, including also myself, Jay, lucy, and probably others (Ender too maybe?)

He'd dropped the Lucy sus, but yeah he also pushed you/Jay/Ender. I'm not citing that bit as further reason to suspect Fingersplints on its own, just noting that the NKA does fit with w!Fingersplints.

marmot picked up the lucy sus and dropped it already, same with Ender. but I'm gonna vote marmot seeing as how opportunistic he's playing, I don't think a townie plays how he does, but this is a gut read where I can't articulate much more to it

How is Marmot playing?

I think he's been a mild shitposter. He's been kinda treading water at times, like he doesn't know what he's doing, but in general, I find the cases he's making to be fairly decent, his though process is followable. And also he's cute af.

you jumped on me to see how I'd react, fanned the flames for Sean to push me, he stopped so you stopped and you gave the same reasoning he did. now you are giving the reasoning where no response to 3 votes on me is wolf indicative, and earlier I believe Mac gave reasoning that resistance to a Lynch was wolf indicative, so with more dead has it changed, or what's your logic?

It was not exactly resistance, this is true. Ignorance might be more accurate. Alison sorta supported it and Jay dismissed it. I don't think that makes it inherently more townie.


I thought your take on sean was right, but wrong. Right in the sense that you characterized his play correctly, but wrong in the sense that I thought he was playing that way while you disagreed.

I think your recent take on Dizzy was wrong. Dizzy has not done next to nothing this game, which is what you said and gave him a null lean for that. I don't think you were interested in pursuing that read further. I also think that you justifying it with saying that you've also not done much this game either is inaccurate. From purely a post count perspective, you've already outposted yourself from Champs Game 7, which suggests to me that you are performing at an above average effort for yourself (albeit from a very small sample size). Also 300 posts by Day 3 is not a small amount imo.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Can I get some GTH reads on Nate?

town

Any idea what your favorite thing about Nate is?

[Marmot]

I also think that in a wolf!lucy world, Dizzy is a possible teammate.

I think your viewpoint is technically valid. Those posts are compatible enough. The only one that stands out to me is her response to you about Mac's reads (that's an awkwardly specific moment to bring up Dizzy). How do you feel about PoopGate?

farts

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I also think that in a wolf!lucy world, Dizzy is a possible teammate.

I think your viewpoint is technically valid. Those posts are compatible enough. The only one that stands out to me is her response to you about Mac's reads (that's an awkwardly specific moment to bring up Dizzy). How do you feel about PoopGate?

farts

PoopGate is definitely compatible for some people. Not sure lucy is the type.

[fingersplints]

...did you think you'd get NK'd?

No.

so you peaced out before the day had ended and didnt check back on the thread until just now?

If by “peaced out before the day had ended” you mean “go to bed at a reasonable time for a mother of 2 in the UK” then yes, that is what I did.

The night phase is 24 hours tbh

Yup. It is.

I honestly wish I was mafia and had teammates. Interactions like this would be more amusing to deal with if I wasn’t all on my own.

So we return to my question: that entrance was your first time checking the thread? Not even a peek?
Second sentence is strange. It sounds like you are irritated, but I am not really pushing you in an annoying manner.

I often don’t rush back to follow games after I am out of them. I’m not that invested in this.

Where are you going with this line of questioning? I do think it’s kind of an annoying manner because its weird what you are pushing. What time I went to bed and checked the thread is a waste of time and a diversion from actual scum hunting. This feels very much like someone trying to find anything to justify a suspicion.

[Marmot]

I also think that in a wolf!lucy world, Dizzy is a possible teammate.

I think your viewpoint is technically valid. Those posts are compatible enough. The only one that stands out to me is her response to you about Mac's reads (that's an awkwardly specific moment to bring up Dizzy). How do you feel about PoopGate?

farts

PoopGate is definitely compatible for some people. Not sure lucy is the type.

That may be a town point for lucy, but certainly not for Dyslaxitives

[Boquise]

Can I get some GTH reads on Nate?

town

Any idea what your favorite thing about Nate is?

He is playing in the manner I expect him to play after reading G1 tbh

...which i know sounds weak, but I am bad at creating well-thoughtout reads nowadays so I go mostly on vibes and stuff tbh

[Dyslexicon]

I’m surprised to still be alive. Kinda checked out thinking it was over for me, so have catching up and what not to do. This break for the 4th might work out well for me to think

...did you think you'd get NK'd?

No.

so you peaced out before the day had ended and didnt check back on the thread until just now?

Her post didn't imply that.

But nice distancing anyway.

it does tho tbh
"I'm surprised to still be alive." - surprised of being not chop
"Kinda checked out thinking it was over for me" - implies leaving the thread
"so have catching up and what not to do" - This plus the previous phrase implies not checking the thread until now tbh

No.

"I thought I was going to die, but I didn't. So now I have to catch up."

Nowhere does she say she didn't check the thread before now. But maybe she'll clarify.

Not very important. Just noting your eagerness to discuss banalities with her. SHADE

[Marmot]

I was busy ISOing and didn't really notice it.

[robyn]

Putting this vote down for now:
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

My top suspect is still Fingersplints for the same reasons as yesterday, with the additional point that Seanzie was pushing her for a time yesterday and is now dead. But I also want some more heat on Creature. I know a few people have voiced a townread, so I'm interested in hearing more about whether it's because he's playing to his town meta or something more than that.

Fair, but Sean did press a lot of people yesterday, including also myself, Jay, lucy, and probably others (Ender too maybe?)

He'd dropped the Lucy sus, but yeah he also pushed you/Jay/Ender. I'm not citing that bit as further reason to suspect Fingersplints on its own, just noting that the NKA does fit with w!Fingersplints.

marmot picked up the lucy sus and dropped it already, same with Ender. but I'm gonna vote marmot seeing as how opportunistic he's playing, I don't think a townie plays how he does, but this is a gut read where I can't articulate much more to it

How is Marmot playing?

I think he's been a mild shitposter. He's been kinda treading water at times, like he doesn't know what he's doing, but in general, I find the cases he's making to be fairly decent, his though process is followable. And also he's cute af.

you jumped on me to see how I'd react, fanned the flames for Sean to push me, he stopped so you stopped and you gave the same reasoning he did. now you are giving the reasoning where no response to 3 votes on me is wolf indicative, and earlier I believe Mac gave reasoning that resistance to a Lynch was wolf indicative, so with more dead has it changed, or what's your logic?

It was not exactly resistance, this is true. Ignorance might be more accurate. Alison sorta supported it and Jay dismissed it. I don't think that makes it inherently more townie.


I thought your take on sean was right, but wrong. Right in the sense that you characterized his play correctly, but wrong in the sense that I thought he was playing that way while you disagreed.

I think your recent take on Dizzy was wrong. Dizzy has not done next to nothing this game, which is what you said and gave him a null lean for that. I don't think you were interested in pursuing that read further. I also think that you justifying it with saying that you've also not done much this game either is inaccurate. From purely a post count perspective, you've already outposted yourself from Champs Game 7, which suggests to me that you are performing at an above average effort for yourself (albeit from a very small sample size). Also 300 posts by Day 3 is not a small amount imo.

still going way under, but like, I'm going for more game relevant content which didn't happen in my dc games, and I'm working full time, I have no clue where my average post count will be when I get settled, but it'll be higher than this (or just more content dense). If Sean didn't die I feel like he'd get much more aggressive today, so I disagree. yes, I viewed dizzy as a policy Lynch rather than read Lynch until today, now I want to see more before I make my mind up, and I didn't know when that'd be so I didn't know when I would eventually get to a read

[Boquise]

No.

so you peaced out before the day had ended and didnt check back on the thread until just now?

If by “peaced out before the day had ended” you mean “go to bed at a reasonable time for a mother of 2 in the UK” then yes, that is what I did.

The night phase is 24 hours tbh

Yup. It is.

I honestly wish I was mafia and had teammates. Interactions like this would be more amusing to deal with if I wasn’t all on my own.

So we return to my question: that entrance was your first time checking the thread? Not even a peek?
Second sentence is strange. It sounds like you are irritated, but I am not really pushing you in an annoying manner.

I often don’t rush back to follow games after I am out of them. I’m not that invested in this.

Where are you going with this line of questioning? I do think it’s kind of an annoying manner because its weird what you are pushing. What time I went to bed and checked the thread is a waste of time and a diversion from actual scum hunting. This feels very much like someone trying to find anything to justify a suspicion.

Because it sounded fake tbh so I needed to push further to see where it would lead me

[fingersplints]

Can I get some GTH reads on Nate?

Scum


My more thought out response would be POE for null, no town leaning thoughts toward them, rather than a thought out suspicion. But that’s my gut instinct to say scum over town

[Dyslexicon]

2 min writing that and lots of thoughs I see tbh

No shade at all? Despite being the first player to seriously question JJJ?

What do you mean?

And what do you mean?

I just said Sean was a sad kill, cause I would really want him here on this good day.

[Boquise]

I’m surprised to still be alive. Kinda checked out thinking it was over for me, so have catching up and what not to do. This break for the 4th might work out well for me to think

...did you think you'd get NK'd?

No.

so you peaced out before the day had ended and didnt check back on the thread until just now?

Her post didn't imply that.

But nice distancing anyway.

it does tho tbh
"I'm surprised to still be alive." - surprised of being not chop
"Kinda checked out thinking it was over for me" - implies leaving the thread
"so have catching up and what not to do" - This plus the previous phrase implies not checking the thread until now tbh

No.

"I thought I was going to die, but I didn't. So now I have to catch up."

Nowhere does she say she didn't check the thread before now. But maybe she'll clarify.

Not very important. Just noting your eagerness to discuss banalities with her. SHADE

It is now confirmed that the way I read it was correct tbh.

Perhaps not very important to you, but I am profiling right now tbh! I'm eager to read your reply to my post about you and Seanzie and JJJ tbh

[Marmot]

Didn't Boq tr fingersplints until now or am I misremembering?

[Dyslexicon]

I’m surprised to still be alive. Kinda checked out thinking it was over for me, so have catching up and what not to do. This break for the 4th might work out well for me to think

...did you think you'd get NK'd?

No.

so you peaced out before the day had ended and didnt check back on the thread until just now?

If by “peaced out before the day had ended” you mean “go to bed at a reasonable time for a mother of 2 in the UK” then yes, that is what I did.

The night phase is 24 hours tbh

Yup. It is.

I honestly wish I was mafia and had teammates. Interactions like this would be more amusing to deal with if I wasn’t all on my own.

Oh no. My pet theory is falling, like the Relm.

[Boquise]

2 min writing that and lots of thoughs I see tbh

No shade at all? Despite being the first player to seriously question JJJ?

What do you mean?

And what do you mean?

I just said Sean was a sad kill, cause I would really want him here on this good day.

I meant that it felt like a stressed post tbh

"It was the worst NK for me tbh, no shade to anyone else"
I misunderstood this tbh. I read it as you saying that the kill was bad to you because it did not throw shade at anyone

[Boquise]

...did you think you'd get NK'd?

No.

so you peaced out before the day had ended and didnt check back on the thread until just now?

If by “peaced out before the day had ended” you mean “go to bed at a reasonable time for a mother of 2 in the UK” then yes, that is what I did.

The night phase is 24 hours tbh

Yup. It is.

I honestly wish I was mafia and had teammates. Interactions like this would be more amusing to deal with if I wasn’t all on my own.

Oh no. My pet theory is falling, like the Relm.

owned tbh

[Marmot]

Dizzy didn't even notice me slander him again. Lock scum.

[Boquise]

Didn't Boq tr fingersplints until now or am I misremembering?

like i said when i entered this thread, i have removed most of my reads and am ready to re-evaluate tbh

But regardless, I think it is important to question and pressure town reads in case you are wrong!

[Dyslexicon]

2 min writing that and lots of thoughs I see tbh

No shade at all? Despite being the first player to seriously question JJJ?

What do you mean?

And what do you mean?

I just said Sean was a sad kill, cause I would really want him here on this good day.

I meant that it felt like a stressed post tbh

"It was the worst NK for me tbh, no shade to anyone else"
I misunderstood this tbh. I read it as you saying that the kill was bad to you because it did not throw shade at anyone

Ok.

No. I just miss Sean. We compliment each other and it's very cute.

[Marmot]

Didn't Boq tr fingersplints until now or am I misremembering?

like i said when i entered this thread, i have removed most of my reads and am ready to re-evaluate tbh

But regardless, I think it is important to question and pressure town reads in case you are wrong!

Sure, but is that statement still accurate of Day 2 Boq?

[Dyslexicon]

Dizzy didn't even notice me slander him again. Lock scum.

Wait, I actually did.

I was wondering if I was disrespecting your scum game and have been reevaluating you. But was going to say something like "Ok, at least I can probably still trust Marmot to be town."

But it doesn't really help if you're not going to read me town back. I mean. It does help, but I want to have partners.

Anyway. I should read more before I post, because I'm probably coming off more suspicious than I want to right now.

[Boquise]

Didn't Boq tr fingersplints until now or am I misremembering?

like i said when i entered this thread, i have removed most of my reads and am ready to re-evaluate tbh

But regardless, I think it is important to question and pressure town reads in case you are wrong!

Sure, but is that statement still accurate of Day 2 Boq?

@Marmot

@Boquise I'm dying to know your current thoughts on Fingers.

My current thoughts on fingers is like those i had going to bed last game day:
I still think my initial town read has merit. But I dislike some of their responses in the thread and I dislike that they just laid off of me after I voiced the town read. Compare that to Rondo who fought against it tbh

[Boquise]

Dizzy didn't even notice me slander him again. Lock scum.

Wait, I actually did.

I was wondering if I was disrespecting your scum game and have been reevaluating you. But was going to say something like "Ok, at least I can probably still trust Marmot to be town."

But it doesn't really help if you're not going to read me town back. I mean. It does help, but I want to have partners.

Anyway. I should read more before I post, because I'm probably coming off more suspicious than I want to right now.

Why am I scum btw?

[Dyslexicon]

@Boquise What did you see as aggressive phrasing for Fingers earlier this game?

[Dyslexicon]

Why am I scum btw?

I don't know yet.

[Marmot]

Dizzy didn't even notice me slander him again. Lock scum.

Wait, I actually did.

I was wondering if I was disrespecting your scum game and have been reevaluating you. But was going to say something like "Ok, at least I can probably still trust Marmot to be town."

But it doesn't really help if you're not going to read me town back. I mean. It does help, but I want to have partners.

Anyway. I should read more before I post, because I'm probably coming off more suspicious than I want to right now.

I can still interact with you as if you're town even if I don't think you are at a particular moment. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive, and I am very fallible and could be wrong.

[Marmot]

I was teasing you Dizzy. Your response was more serious than I expected lol

[Dyslexicon]

Why am I scum btw?

I don't know yet.

Well. Bunch of reasons. But I've been noting your interaction with Fingers for some time.

I don't have any official reads yet though. So don't get mad or anything.

[Boquise]

@Boquise What did you see as aggressive phrasing for Fingers earlier this game?

This

Also back to this post

Sure

You are appreciated.

The last thing I was hoping to achieve is the classical night kill analysis. Many people balk at the very idea of trying this, and I think they're wrong. Wifom is wifom blah blah, but we're remiss if we don't at least take a look. Moreover, in a mountainous game, at least one of the layers of wifom does not exist -- there are no doctor dodges. So it'd behoove us to review Mac and see where he sat. What we do with that I don't know right now, but we honor his memory enough to give him a voice.

If that's something that tickles you, I'd love to see what you come up with.

I kinda expected to be the kill because I was during D1 consensus town read with no on-going conflicts with other players. Whereas Mac, also highly town read, had a thing with Wilgy that could be exploited and easier to tinfoil because of Falcon and of site history*.

*What I mean with site history is that I am an unknown variable whilst Mac is a tried gun.

This tells me that Mac's reads can have threatened the woofs tbh

Was Boquise “consensus town read”? I don’t have a read on them yet so to me this reads a lot like saying you are town to try and seem townier, but I don’t recall ever playing with Boquise or paying that much attention yet to others mentions of them

I base it off other players' read lists tbh. You didnt read those posts?

Nah I read them. I don’t remember every single mention of you though and my recollection of you was more as null over consensus town, so that’s why I’m asking others.

I read "every single mention of you" as a bit passive-aggressive, and I made that read because I phrased my question as cheeky to see what would happen tbh

[Dyslexicon]

I was teasing you Dizzy. Your response was more serious than I expected lol

But I wanted to say something about you anyway, but boq distracted me with his dashing look tbh

But wait, are you suspecting me for real?

[Boquise]

Why am I scum btw?

I don't know yet.

Well. Bunch of reasons. But I've been noting your interaction with Fingers for some time.

I don't have any official reads yet though. So don't get mad or anything.

Why would I get mad?

[Marmot]

I was teasing you Dizzy. Your response was more serious than I expected lol

But I wanted to say something about you anyway, but boq distracted me with his dashing look tbh

But wait, are you suspecting me for real?

Yes but no but yes

[Dyslexicon]

I don't really get it. My Boq/Fingers connection is probably a bad one. But if it isn't, I'm so good at mafia.

This game is confusing.

[Dyslexicon]

Why would I get mad?

I'm just saying words now. Probably advisable to take 50 % + of what I'm saying as not serious rn. Like, I should've logged off some time ago tbh

[Dyslexicon]

Yes but no but yes

Ok then

[Dyslexicon]

I wanted to change my min on Alison too. Especially, I wanted to see if she still held her interest in Fingers today, which she did, I saw. But this is also something I shouldn't talk about now.

What I actually want is someone to fight crime with. That is what I want. It's Ender, but he isn't here.

[Dyslexicon]

Page 69 hehe

[Marmot]

Yes but no but yes

Ok then

I think prior to recently, lucy's interactions with you could be compatible (and I'm suspicious of lucy for some other things, partially with how she's handled you). Jay pointed out poopgate, which has given me pause.

[Boquise]

Why would I get mad?

I'm just saying words now. Probably advisable to take 50 % + of what I'm saying as not serious rn. Like, I should've logged off some time ago tbh

lmao like what i am trying to do rn is to discern whether you believe in your read or not tbh


either way, here is more for your theory to digest:

a) I think it is rand>wolf to lay off a player as soon as they start town reading you with no visible paranoia. Which Fingers did.
b) however, I also find it rand>town to chum up with peeps calling you town but get instantly irritated when asked annoying questions, because a scum player who has that profile is usually enough aware of it to try to hide it tbh.

None of this makes me lean at either way for Fingers, it is kinda +- situation and I know this whole thing is a contradiction but this is how my mind works smh

[Boquise]

And rn I am trying to profile you Dizzy tbh

[Marmot]

I wanted to change my min on Alison too. Especially, I wanted to see if she still held her interest in Fingers today, which she did, I saw. But this is also something I shouldn't talk about now.

What I actually want is someone to fight crime with. That is what I want. It's Ender, but he isn't here.

I've gotta run unfortunately. Maybe on Day 3.2

[Marmot]

I'm glad we have a 24 hour break in the day. I'm going to be out of town all day tonight and tomorrow.

[Dyslexicon]

Yes but no but yes

Ok then

I think prior to recently, lucy's interactions with you could be compatible (and I'm suspicious of lucy for some other things, partially with how she's handled you). Jay pointed out poopgate, which has given me pause.

But I don't really care about Lucy. Can you care about other things?

Can you care about if there's wolf in Alison/Jimmay/Boq, who is it?

I have a maybe naive thought that it wouldn't be Jimmay w and Boq v, because I think Jimmay hard buddied Boq in a very aggressive and emotional way. It was almost like how I buddied Illario in Fleabag (which was kind of an accident), and my naive heart wants to say that Jimmay doesn't do that to Boq if it's w/v. Could still be all other combinations ig.

How sure are you on Fingers? I find that her solving isn't really going anywhere.

What do you think of my town read on Ender? Stupid or not?

[Dyslexicon]

Oh shit. We're breaking soon. Even better tbh. I will then be able to read without getting distracted by replying to things in thread and roaming around IN THIS ILL LIT ROOM

[Boquise]

I'm glad we have a 24 hour break in the day. I'm going to be out of town all day tonight and tomorrow.

This might help me get a flow on things. I am currently only using like 20% of my brain power on this game and I also suck at scum hunting, so this might make me land on my feet tbh

[Dyslexicon]

Why would I get mad?

I'm just saying words now. Probably advisable to take 50 % + of what I'm saying as not serious rn. Like, I should've logged off some time ago tbh

lmao like what i am trying to do rn is to discern whether you believe in your read or not tbh


either way, here is more for your theory to digest:

a) I think it is rand>wolf to lay off a player as soon as they start town reading you with no visible paranoia. Which Fingers did.
b) however, I also find it rand>town to chum up with peeps calling you town but get instantly irritated when asked annoying questions, because a scum player who has that profile is usually enough aware of it to try to hide it tbh.

None of this makes me lean at either way for Fingers, it is kinda +- situation and I know this whole thing is a contradiction but this is how my mind works smh

Oh, that's easy. I don't know if I believe in it. Not very, but it's possible. I haven't fully formed many reads. I've formed many possible reads. One of the connections that has stood out the most to me has been you and Fingers.

[Boquise]

Yes but no but yes

Ok then

I think prior to recently, lucy's interactions with you could be compatible (and I'm suspicious of lucy for some other things, partially with how she's handled you). Jay pointed out poopgate, which has given me pause.

But I don't really care about Lucy. Can you care about other things?

Can you care about if there's wolf in Alison/Jimmay/Boq, who is it?

I have a maybe naive thought that it wouldn't be Jimmay w and Boq v, because I think Jimmay hard buddied Boq in a very aggressive and emotional way. It was almost like how I buddied Illario in Fleabag (which was kind of an accident), and my naive heart wants to say that Jimmay doesn't do that to Boq if it's w/v. Could still be all other combinations ig.

How sure are you on Fingers? I find that her solving isn't really going anywhere.

What do you think of my town read on Ender? Stupid or not?

I... Had actually not considered that regarding JJJ...