Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]

[NateTheLesser]

@Boquise, where are you at on Fingersplints?

I think by thread state and profiling, she is town. But I am not sure because this is a slot that is hard to read.

And what makes you think she's being grouped together with you?

Because Dizzy and JJJ have grouped her together with me tbh

What is your take on Fingers?

You probably found it in your catchup but I lost some confidence in a Fingers yeet because I think if w!Fingers, Alison is most likely dead last night, or if not Fingers would at least have an opinion on them.

i think this is a good take

You were prodding her pretty aggressively in the first part of the day, what did you get out of that?

[Alison]

@Boquise, where are you at on Fingersplints?

I think by thread state and profiling, she is town. But I am not sure because this is a slot that is hard to read.

And what makes you think she's being grouped together with you?

Because Dizzy and JJJ have grouped her together with me tbh

What is your take on Fingers?

You probably found it in your catchup but I lost some confidence in a Fingers yeet because I think if w!Fingers, Alison is most likely dead last night, or if not Fingers would at least have an opinion on them.

i think this is a good take

I dunno if I agree that w!fingers always kills me. I took quite a bit of heat yesterday, and w!fingers will have teammates who want to make kills befitting them too.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ok if there's wolf within Alison/JJJ it's most likely JJJ

Mostly because I can see him being competent wolf faking solving but also being buried by burden of proficiency

Why does this apply to me rather than to Alison?

[Dyslexicon]

I just think he kind of ignored it? It seems like you were very confident, and he kind of shrugged it off, I feel. I don't feel like he really considered it. I don't know how correct that is, but that is how I feel.

I talked with Marmot directly about fingersplints and refrained from making her a top priority pursuit largely because of Marmot's perspective, along with some initial inklings I noted myself early in the game.

Am I silly for wanting to chop you here, Jimmay?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I just think he kind of ignored it? It seems like you were very confident, and he kind of shrugged it off, I feel. I don't feel like he really considered it. I don't know how correct that is, but that is how I feel.

I talked with Marmot directly about fingersplints and refrained from making her a top priority pursuit largely because of Marmot's perspective, along with some initial inklings I noted myself early in the game.

Am I silly for wanting to chop you here, Jimmay?

if it's a real desire you hold in your heart, yes you are

[Alison]

Ok if there's wolf within Alison/JJJ it's most likely JJJ

Mostly because I can see him being competent wolf faking solving but also being buried by burden of proficiency

Why does this apply to me rather than to Alison?

I'm not a competent wolf any more. I'm washed up. I got eliminated before endgame the last 5 times I randed wolf.

[robyn]

why did u vote me @Boquise

i have felt that you have sidelined today a bit more with few takes and interactions, and it looked like you were skating by this eod tbh

assume this was true and I was mafia and I just voted to sleep and never came on. what purpose would that serve lol, especially when I'm on fringe poe

[Dyslexicon]

if it's a real desire you hold in your heart, yes you are

But it's also very romantic.

[Marmot]

I do agree with you on several of these points tbh.

Although can you talk more about his "being weird on my town case of fingers"? I can think of a few reasons why Jay might act weird around that, but I'm curious why you say that.


But in particular, I agree that Jay undermining his own work seems kinda sus. Why go to all that work if it doesn't provide useful ouput or information to work with?

I know Jay didn't support a Wilgy yeet. He wasn't very vocal about it, but I do know he didn't support it at least.

I just think he kind of ignored it? It seems like you were very confident, and he kind of shrugged it off, I feel. I don't feel like he really considered it. I don't know how correct that is, but that is how I feel.

He has acknowledged it at times, so I'm not sure what level of engagement you would expect from him on that front.

If he wanted to kill her, I would certainly expect more.

[Creature]

Ok if there's wolf within Alison/JJJ it's most likely JJJ

Mostly because I can see him being competent wolf faking solving but also being buried by burden of proficiency

Why does this apply to me rather than to Alison?

I've seen Alison live long and be wrong often. For some reason I see you as being a better wolf hunter than her.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ok if there's wolf within Alison/JJJ it's most likely JJJ

Mostly because I can see him being competent wolf faking solving but also being buried by burden of proficiency

Why does this apply to me rather than to Alison?

I'm not a competent wolf any more. I'm washed up. I got eliminated before endgame the last 5 times I randed wolf.

I literally got swept

[Boquise]

why did u vote me @Boquise

i have felt that you have sidelined today a bit more with few takes and interactions, and it looked like you were skating by this eod tbh

assume this was true and I was mafia and I just voted to sleep and never came on. what purpose would that serve lol, especially when I'm on fringe poe

"lmao why would a wolf do this"

[Alison]

All I know is that Creature sure as fuck shouldn't be top wagon.

[Marmot]

I have decided to bury my tinfoil on Marmot too.
Progress.

If that is true, one of Ender and Jay should really be mafia. I'm currently on Jay. But I want to vote between these two today. I agree with Alison.

I don't think a Creature chop gives us much, as much as I don't really trust him or see where he's coming from.

Come vote Ender with me

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

Watch this end up with me voting Ender lolol

[Alison]

All I know is that Creature sure as fuck shouldn't be top wagon.

Like if we exe Creature and he flips town the game is lost. I think Creature is more townie than not.

So can we not do that and vote out people who have a) more scum equity and b) will break the game open with a red flip

[Dyslexicon]

I have decided to bury my tinfoil on Marmot too.
Progress.

If that is true, one of Ender and Jay should really be mafia. I'm currently on Jay. But I want to vote between these two today. I agree with Alison.

I don't think a Creature chop gives us much, as much as I don't really trust him or see where he's coming from.

Come vote Ender with me

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't leak our conversations in wolf chat, silly!

[Boquise]

All I know is that Creature sure as fuck shouldn't be top wagon.

i agree tbh

[robyn]

why did u vote me @Boquise

i have felt that you have sidelined today a bit more with few takes and interactions, and it looked like you were skating by this eod tbh

assume this was true and I was mafia and I just voted to sleep and never came on. what purpose would that serve lol, especially when I'm on fringe poe

"lmao why would a wolf do this"

it was an actual question, ur response was why I debated sending it

[Marmot]

Ok if there's wolf within Alison/JJJ it's most likely JJJ

Mostly because I can see him being competent wolf faking solving but also being buried by burden of proficiency

Why does this apply to me rather than to Alison?

I'm not a competent wolf any more. I'm washed up. I got eliminated before endgame the last 5 times I randed wolf.

I literally got swept

Since we're 1-upping

I was literally day-vigged by my own team on Day 1 in my last wolf rand :wowee:

[NateTheLesser]

@Boquise, where are you at on Fingersplints?

I think by thread state and profiling, she is town. But I am not sure because this is a slot that is hard to read.

And what makes you think she's being grouped together with you?

Because Dizzy and JJJ have grouped her together with me tbh

What is your take on Fingers?

You probably found it in your catchup but I lost some confidence in a Fingers yeet because I think if w!Fingers, Alison is most likely dead last night, or if not Fingers would at least have an opinion on them.

i think this is a good take

I dunno if I agree that w!fingers always kills me. I took quite a bit of heat yesterday, and w!fingers will have teammates who want to make kills befitting them too.

Maybe not. But the second part was that I think she'd at least be aware that you were a threat yesterday and have some sort of opinion on you.

[robyn]

[VOTE: jjj] aubergine

[Boquise]

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

sorry Ender
I think you have done town indicative posts, but I want to sleep and my Creature and JJJ reads are stuff i feel more comfortable with

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd vastly prefer an Ender chop over Creature

[Alison]

Ok if there's wolf within Alison/JJJ it's most likely JJJ

Mostly because I can see him being competent wolf faking solving but also being buried by burden of proficiency

Why does this apply to me rather than to Alison?

I'm not a competent wolf any more. I'm washed up. I got eliminated before endgame the last 5 times I randed wolf.

I literally got swept

Since we're 1-upping

I was literally day-vigged by my own team on Day 1 in my last wolf rand :wowee:

To be fair it was literally mechanically mandatory for them to shoot a mafia. You just happened to be the most widely scumread.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: jjj] aubergine

Why are you trying to set up a 3 way tie?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Nvm Marmot saved it

[Boquise]

why did u vote me @Boquise

i have felt that you have sidelined today a bit more with few takes and interactions, and it looked like you were skating by this eod tbh

assume this was true and I was mafia and I just voted to sleep and never came on. what purpose would that serve lol, especially when I'm on fringe poe

"lmao why would a wolf do this"

it was an actual question, ur response was why I debated sending it

no i am answering.
"What purpose would it serve?"
"The purpose would be me thinking 'lmao why would a wolf do this'"

[Alison]

@Boquise, where are you at on Fingersplints?

I think by thread state and profiling, she is town. But I am not sure because this is a slot that is hard to read.

And what makes you think she's being grouped together with you?

Because Dizzy and JJJ have grouped her together with me tbh

What is your take on Fingers?

You probably found it in your catchup but I lost some confidence in a Fingers yeet because I think if w!Fingers, Alison is most likely dead last night, or if not Fingers would at least have an opinion on them.

i think this is a good take

I dunno if I agree that w!fingers always kills me. I took quite a bit of heat yesterday, and w!fingers will have teammates who want to make kills befitting them too.

Maybe not. But the second part was that I think she'd at least be aware that you were a threat yesterday and have some sort of opinion on you.

Maybe? I got the sense that she was kinda checked out of the game.

I will sort her tomorrow. She's not a consideration for vote target for me today.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: jjj] aubergine

why

[Marmot]

I have decided to bury my tinfoil on Marmot too.
Progress.

If that is true, one of Ender and Jay should really be mafia. I'm currently on Jay. But I want to vote between these two today. I agree with Alison.

I don't think a Creature chop gives us much, as much as I don't really trust him or see where he's coming from.

Come vote Ender with me

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't leak our conversations in wolf chat, silly!

I'm serious though.

While I am a little hesitant on Alison's "what's my agenda" post, because it could like she's putting fingersplints off until another day, I generally agree with it and think it's a reasonable look for her.

There are some things Creature has done that stick out as townie to me. One post in particular I thought looked uninformed.

So I'm left at Ender and Jay of the current wagons. I would entertain lucy again, but I don't think the thread would support it (just Boq I think). And I'd vote Ender over Jay of those two.

[robyn]

jjj has contributed arguably the most out of all of us. he's made it implicitly clear (and explicitly I think) that without him the game state degenerates significantly. that rhetoric I dislike, I would assume he'd use a much more sly and different way to say the same thing

[Alison]

@NateTheLesser
@RondoDimBuckle

I would like you to vote on Ender/Jay. It is a free clear if one of them flips red and I think they both have a decent chance to.

[Boquise]

goodnight people tbh

[Creature]

Thoughts on the players voting me (finger, Rondo, Nate)?

[NateTheLesser]

All I know is that Creature sure as fuck shouldn't be top wagon.

i agree tbh

Can one of you summarize the why of this?

[robyn]

why did u vote me @Boquise

i have felt that you have sidelined today a bit more with few takes and interactions, and it looked like you were skating by this eod tbh

assume this was true and I was mafia and I just voted to sleep and never came on. what purpose would that serve lol, especially when I'm on fringe poe

"lmao why would a wolf do this"

it was an actual question, ur response was why I debated sending it

no i am answering.
"What purpose would it serve?"
"The purpose would be me thinking 'lmao why would a wolf do this'"

ah, reasonable

[Dyslexicon]

I'm serious though.

While I am a little hesitant on Alison's "what's my agenda" post, because it could like she's putting fingersplints off until another day, I generally agree with it and think it's a reasonable look for her.

There are some things Creature has done that stick out as townie to me. One post in particular I thought looked uninformed.

So I'm left at Ender and Jay of the current wagons. I would entertain lucy again, but I don't think the thread would support it (just Boq I think). And I'd vote Ender over Jay of those two.

Yeah. I'd vote Jay over Ender. Probably.

But chopping Ender here is kind of win for me anyway no matter how he flips.

[Marmot]

@Boquise, where are you at on Fingersplints?

I think by thread state and profiling, she is town. But I am not sure because this is a slot that is hard to read.

And what makes you think she's being grouped together with you?

Because Dizzy and JJJ have grouped her together with me tbh

What is your take on Fingers?

You probably found it in your catchup but I lost some confidence in a Fingers yeet because I think if w!Fingers, Alison is most likely dead last night, or if not Fingers would at least have an opinion on them.

i think this is a good take

I dunno if I agree that w!fingers always kills me. I took quite a bit of heat yesterday, and w!fingers will have teammates who want to make kills befitting them too.

Maybe not. But the second part was that I think she'd at least be aware that you were a threat yesterday and have some sort of opinion on you.

Maybe? I got the sense that she was kinda checked out of the game.

I will sort her tomorrow. She's not a consideration for vote target for me today.

I felt that she had more engagement today than she had before today.

[Boquise]

I have decided to bury my tinfoil on Marmot too.
Progress.

If that is true, one of Ender and Jay should really be mafia. I'm currently on Jay. But I want to vote between these two today. I agree with Alison.

I don't think a Creature chop gives us much, as much as I don't really trust him or see where he's coming from.

Come vote Ender with me

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't leak our conversations in wolf chat, silly!

I'm serious though.

While I am a little hesitant on Alison's "what's my agenda" post, because it could like she's putting fingersplints off until another day, I generally agree with it and think it's a reasonable look for her.

There are some things Creature has done that stick out as townie to me. One post in particular I thought looked uninformed.

So I'm left at Ender and Jay of the current wagons. I would entertain lucy again, but I don't think the thread would support it (just Boq I think). And I'd vote Ender over Jay of those two.

mfw my jjj town case and my ender vote are ignored

[JaggedJimmyJay]

jjj has contributed arguably the most out of all of us. he's made it implicitly clear (and explicitly I think) that without him the game state degenerates significantly. that rhetoric I dislike, I would assume he'd use a much more sly and different way to say the same thing

That is the opposite of my desired message. The game can degenerate just for having lost a major contributor to a third straight town chop in a bleak mountainous game state -- but it doesn't have to and shouldn't be that way.

[NateTheLesser]

I think for Marmot it was that Creature didn't know Sean was townreading him? From a skim.

[Alison]

I feel like lucy doesn't care about the way this EOD turns out. Like she does not feel invested at all in what's going to happen.

[Creature]

I'm not buying that no wolf would vote me. I know that as wolf I always needed to have a good reason to be voting someone and what better than everyone's punching bag?

[Alison]

mfw my jjj town case and my ender vote are ignored

What was your Jay town case again?

[Marmot]

I have decided to bury my tinfoil on Marmot too.
Progress.

If that is true, one of Ender and Jay should really be mafia. I'm currently on Jay. But I want to vote between these two today. I agree with Alison.

I don't think a Creature chop gives us much, as much as I don't really trust him or see where he's coming from.

Come vote Ender with me

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't leak our conversations in wolf chat, silly!

I'm serious though.

While I am a little hesitant on Alison's "what's my agenda" post, because it could like she's putting fingersplints off until another day, I generally agree with it and think it's a reasonable look for her.

There are some things Creature has done that stick out as townie to me. One post in particular I thought looked uninformed.

So I'm left at Ender and Jay of the current wagons. I would entertain lucy again, but I don't think the thread would support it (just Boq I think). And I'd vote Ender over Jay of those two.

mfw my jjj town case and my ender vote are ignored

wait. no. what'd i do?

[Marmot]

I think for Marmot it was that Creature didn't know Sean was townreading him? From a skim.

Yes

[robyn]

I feel like lucy doesn't care about the way this EOD turns out. Like she does not feel invested at all in what's going to happen.

I'm just tired, I do care

[Alison]

I feel like lucy doesn't care about the way this EOD turns out. Like she does not feel invested at all in what's going to happen.

I'm just tired, I do care

Okay. What are your thoughts on Ender?

[NateTheLesser]

I'm not buying that no wolf would vote me. I know that as wolf I always needed to have a good reason to be voting someone and what better than everyone's punching bag?

For me it was that you came in yesterday asking why fingersplints was a wagon but didn't actually seem interested in anybody's case. And then made two (2) posts in the first half of this day phase. I'm still catching up on the rest.