JaggedJimmyJay's High School Crushes Mafia [END]

[EnderWiggin]

You think I start with a bus and then weakly limply dash off it?

I owe an apology to Dizzy, I invoked my ability to read them without really giving them a fair shake of the stick because I was busy and distracted and I should never do that.

[EnderWiggin]

I still haven't read for spew but will read for spew soonish.

[DrWilgy]

Let's eat Rondo

[hollowkatt]

I've read no spew. gg on chopping moon, that was awesome. shame on all y'all for dizzy, that was bad. don't do it again.
Mac being the NK isn't a surprise but I wanted it

[EnderWiggin]

@hollowkatt Why is Moon slop? His buddying of me is beautiful tbh

I don't know anything. I want everyone to post way more

Porscha reads like she's struggle-posting would be the best way to put it. Like nothing is seriously wrong but her posts read like they took effort to make.

Sure.

I asked about Moon though. =p

lol that you did. I had Porsches on the brain.

Moon... it's their mac posts and the way they interacted with you. it doesn't *feel* good.

I call BS on the Mac stuff. What Mac did is no different than what he usually does to me on D1 when he's trying to get a feel for me. He's done this as both alignments to me.

@hollowkatt Why is Moon slop? His buddying of me is beautiful tbh

I don't know anything. I want everyone to post way more

Porscha reads like she's struggle-posting would be the best way to put it. Like nothing is seriously wrong but her posts read like they took effort to make.

Sure.

I asked about Moon though. =p

lol that you did. I had Porsches on the brain.

Moon... it's their mac posts and the way they interacted with you. it doesn't *feel* good.

I call BS on the Mac stuff. What Mac did is no different than what he usually does to me on D1 when he's trying to get a feel for me. He's done this as both alignments to me.

I'm not talking about Mac posting towards you, I'm talking about you posting about Mac after that.

The null read I gave on him, right? That reason above is WHERE it came from.

Porscha reads like she's struggle-posting would be the best way to put it. Like nothing is seriously wrong but her posts read like they took effort to make.

Sure.

I asked about Moon though. =p

lol that you did. I had Porsches on the brain.

Moon... it's their mac posts and the way they interacted with you. it doesn't *feel* good.

I call BS on the Mac stuff. What Mac did is no different than what he usually does to me on D1 when he's trying to get a feel for me. He's done this as both alignments to me.

re: he's done this as both alignments to you

do you feel like he's trying to vote you off or trying to get a feel for you an what does getting a feel for you entail from scum him

Moon misses my point there as well. It's not how Mac treated Moon, it's how Moon backed off of how they were reading mac and saying "oh I was just trolling".
Then there's this:

I don't really have anything to say about Mac at the moment. I got the reaction that I thought I was going to get, but I don't think it's anything I can read into this early. Straight up null.

I've liked my interactions with Dizzy so far in spite of the read I gave out earlier? I'd probably put them higher in my reads list than Mac atm.

If you were trying to get a reaction, and you thought you might get the reaction that you did get, null as a conclusion seems really not great.

I didn't miss your point though. I was explaining to you WHY I was reading them null, because that was pretty much my only genuine interaction I had with them. I gave him a poke, expected a poke back, then what usually would have happened was we'd continue bantering with each other until we properly felt each other out and got an initial read on each other. That did NOT happen. So, I don't know if he's reaction testing me or if he's actually pushing me. It literally didn't go anywhere, even after I revoted him.

Yeah, so Moon is town.
And my only hope is that Rondo is somewhat randomly mafia. Which is doubtful, unless it's Rondo/Wilgy or Rondo/Ender. It's possible, but doubtful.

HK/Dolby/Ender <-- something in there is not right. Gl gl

I'm down to make something happen with you, me, and Dolby. Down to get HK, definitely.

----

I don't think HK is wolf.

[EnderWiggin]

As long as Dizzy and Wilgy do NOT get chopped, I'm happy with any chop at this point. I'll try to find more town tomorrow.

This is probably too weak for a strong townread but this is very on the nose if partners.

[EnderWiggin]

@DrWilgy, your votes are tilting me. The feel towny, but holy fuck stop voting me.

Don't move it to Dizzy, but at least move the one on me somewhere else.

Also this exists, yeah I might unpair Wilgy too.

[EnderWiggin]

The good news is I'm coming to the same conclusions I saw in Dolby's opener post.

The bad news?

I'm coming to the same conclusions as Dolby's opener post.

[EnderWiggin]

I do want to solve good this game.
Right now we are all cringing, including me.

Most interesting things that has happened so far:
I seriously thought Moon/Ender could be a team before Ender had posted haha.
Dolby triple posted.
Porscha wants me to be town.
Rondo is kind of town reading Ender.
Rondo clearly scum slipped in his percentages; the answer is clearly light blue.

You left out the part where Porscha still sheeped Mac on me in spite of wanting you to be town.
As for me/Ender, that would be a pretty dope team, ngl.

You left out the part where Porscha still sheeped Mac on me in spite of wanting you to be town.
As for me/Ender, that would be a pretty dope team, ngl.

She didn't vote me.

I know, that's my point. She voted me to sheep Mac, but didn't vote you.

Slight uptick for Porscha.

Will read context.

[EnderWiggin]

hollowkatt
DrWilgy

Porscha

Dolby
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
RondoDimBuckle

If I can sort 4 town outside me we can chop through me that's okay.

[EnderWiggin]

Dolby is the only other one I could maybe unpair and that's really weak and I shouldn't do that.

But consider an airgap between him and me/Rondo/Falcon I think.

[EnderWiggin]

Poke me if anyone else is around, now I'm no longer multi-tabling I can actually focus on this.

[EnderWiggin]

And interactions will help me be sure.

[EnderWiggin]

Also I appreciate that Dolby's new process now that I've pocketed him so much is to just over-sus me lol

[Porscha]

yeah I felt bad I voted for dizzy cuz I came back to thread after work and started catching up and immediately was like "ah this is town dizzy I should unvote him" and then realized the day had already ended! too bad. don't get pocketed so hard next time dizzy. if that's all it takes, i'm doing it every time I wolf with you

[EnderWiggin]

Also, as I'm sure you are all aware, if we mischop with both our chops today, tomorrow is Lylo! :wowee:

Thats why I am voting you

So what you're saying is, you're mafia?

There is a 20% chance you are right. There is a 20% chance I am right

Actually, it's more like 28,6 % I'm right. So I win.

So you guys are teammates, eh? Kewl


[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

I don't like this in context of the wagons at the time. This takes Moon from clear lead to being a 3way where Moon might not go over.

[EnderWiggin]

yeah I felt bad I voted for dizzy cuz I came back to thread after work and started catching up and immediately was like "ah this is town dizzy I should unvote him" and then realized the day had already ended! too bad. don't get pocketed so hard next time dizzy. if that's all it takes, i'm doing it every time I wolf with you

What's your reads Porscha?

[Porscha]

well I assume you aren't really caught up or skipped a bunch of stuff ender but I was about to go find a post b/c I remember it distinctly and now I'm wondering if it was potentially TMI from rondo and it had my reads so i'll just go post it

[EnderWiggin]

well I assume you aren't really caught up or skipped a bunch of stuff ender but I was about to go find a post b/c I remember it distinctly and now I'm wondering if it was potentially TMI from rondo and it had my reads so i'll just go post it

I was caught up in a "I am half dead from IRL/Work and barely paying attention" manner.

[EnderWiggin]

So I am looking forward to what you want to point out.

[Porscha]

uote=RondoDimBuckle post_id=933876 time=1657803576 user_id=968]

I'm voting Rondo at lylo 100% of the time. He's town otherwise.

Why did you ask me about Rondo, and what would your answer to the same question be btw?

why quote this post?

Dizzy/Wink... Dink?

No Wizzy, I like Wizzy more.

Wizzy, what WOULD Rondo's scumrange at this point in the game look like?

What WOULD Prompt a Mac town read?

If this question is for me: I do not know. I don’t really have a read on Rondo, but they seemed to be reacting with votes. Real reaction instead of musings. But that is pretty thin of course. Their town read of Ender was interesting, don’t know what it means if anything.

when this is the post you are talking about?

Why are you asking about this? Would it be AI to you?

I will answer though: I quoted that post, because after Wilgy asked me something like "What would Rondo as town look like at this point?", which he asked because I weakly town leaned on you, I assumed Wilgy did not think I should town lean on you at this stage. But then I remembered Wilgy did not have you in his PoE, so then why ask me about it like I did something wrong?

So that is why I quoted the post where Wilgy himself is town reading you. Because his question sounded like he was sceptical about my town lean, while I could ask him the exact same question.

Which is why I'm wondering about a possible Rondo/Wilgy team here.

if ender says you are wolf, you are wolf. If you flip town. Turbo ender

Nothing can make me a wolf.
And I hate this idea.

I could be wrong sure, but I trust Enders reads of you. If he abuses that trust he is wolf.

Can Ender not be wrong as town?

I've seen plenty of people claiming to have a good read on someone be wrong.

@EnderWiggin ?

What

if ender says you are wolf, you are wolf. If you flip town. Turbo ender

Nothing can make me a wolf.
And I hate this idea.

I could be wrong sure, but I trust Enders reads of you. If he abuses that trust he is wolf.

Can Ender not be wrong as town?

I've seen plenty of people claiming to have a good read on someone be wrong.

Also like, this is not a confident read lol.

Last few games I've been much more sure.

I do not like this response
[VOTE: Ender ] aubergine
[/quote]

+1 town point for rondo

Interesting choice, wilgy and vanity wagon

...

What do you think of Moon, and what do you think of the genius solve which is me/Moon together? Do you think it's likely?

I dont like Moons Entrance. But they seem comfortable in thread. leaning suspect but they have similar playstyle to me and its unlikely they are trying to match me. null, wait for day 2

-1 town point for rondo

ok i'll do a lame read list b/c I feel like I should

town lean:
dolby
wilgy
falcon
mac
hk

unsure:
ender
rondo

getting voted out as wolf or a very wolfy towny that I will not regret flipping regardless b/c I feel strongly about it:
moonwink

smart

was this TMI from rondo in retrospect???

[Porscha]

So I am looking forward to what you want to point out.

hey man no problem, you can put me in the lock town pile

[EnderWiggin]

So I am looking forward to what you want to point out.

hey man no problem, you can put me in the lock town pile

You're in the "Almost lock town" basket so far. =P

Also idk if I'd call that TMI, too weak to base a read on imo.

[EnderWiggin]

@Dolby, talk to me about your heavy focus on Ender early game. Those posts felt kinda stilted to me.

Hmmm.

The scrutiny of Dolby didn't start until Moon was already a major wagon.

I think I'm not counting that as good spew

[Porscha]

So I am looking forward to what you want to point out.

hey man no problem, you can put me in the lock town pile

You're in the "Almost lock town" basket so far. =P

Also idk if I'd call that TMI, too weak to base a read on imo.

ok why else does rondo say it? cuz of my town leans? cuz you and him were null? or cuz he knew moon was being wolfy AF but then posted right after that he town leaned them?

[EnderWiggin]

So I am looking forward to what you want to point out.

hey man no problem, you can put me in the lock town pile

You're in the "Almost lock town" basket so far. =P

Also idk if I'd call that TMI, too weak to base a read on imo.

ok why else does rondo say it? cuz of my town leans? cuz you and him were null? or cuz he knew moon was being wolfy AF but then posted right after that he town leaned them?

Because he thinks people townreading him D1 are underestimating him.

[Porscha]

So I am looking forward to what you want to point out.

hey man no problem, you can put me in the lock town pile

You're in the "Almost lock town" basket so far. =P

Also idk if I'd call that TMI, too weak to base a read on imo.

ok why else does rondo say it? cuz of my town leans? cuz you and him were null? or cuz he knew moon was being wolfy AF but then posted right after that he town leaned them?

Because he thinks people townreading him D1 are underestimating him.

HHHMMM while egotistically it's up rondo's alley... it wasn't what I was considering........ I guess saying his comment was maybe for my null read on him is pretty much the same thing though so yeah I guess I could accept that as a possibility

[EnderWiggin]

It's the kind of response I'd expect out of Rondo regardless of alignment.

Rondo will often respond to things that have more impact/view with specifically things about him. It's NAI but I wouldn't read it as TMI ever.

[Porscha]

can you please explain to me what NAI and AI mean cuz I just keep living my life not quite understanding

[EnderWiggin]

yeah with moon and dizzy just hard townreading each other I have to reluctantly admit he's a god

I do not like this post tbh.

[EnderWiggin]

can you please explain to me what NAI and AI mean cuz I just keep living my life not quite understanding

Alignment Indicative or Not Alignment Indicative.

NAI basically means something that comes from either, AI is something you'd only expect from wolf or town version of that player.

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: Unvote Moon ] aubergine > [VOTE: Dolby ] aubergine
[VOTE: Unvote Porcha ] aubergine > [VOTE: Wilgy ] aubergine

That being said this timing/vote change stinks.

[EnderWiggin]

Ender is the person I’m scared of being overlooksed

Literally just had a discussion centred around me and throws this out.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

[Dolby]

Tbh if it’s not Ender it’s Rondo and if it’s not them it’s Falcon

I should probs read through Wilgy again but yeah

[EnderWiggin]

Tbh if it’s not Ender it’s Rondo and if it’s not them it’s Falcon

I should probs read through Wilgy again but yeah

...

The thing that makes me pause is that Dolby has EXACTLY the same pool as me except uno reversed on me.

[Dolby]

Ender is the person I’m scared of being overlooksed

Literally just had a discussion centred around me and throws this out.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

I felt you were under the radar to an extent and had capacity to stay there

Like, all of D1 was “it’s dizzy and moon”

[Dolby]

Not to toot my own horn but I think telling dizzy to vote moon was towny from me bc I could have just not and I’m not confident he would have even with moon voting him

[EnderWiggin]

Ender is the person I’m scared of being overlooksed

Literally just had a discussion centred around me and throws this out.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

I felt you were under the radar to an extent and had capacity to stay there

Like, all of D1 was “it’s dizzy and moon”

Ain't my fault brah.

[EnderWiggin]

So Porscha/HK/Wilgy get to be townclears for now.

[Dolby]

I think Wilgy could be re eved but yeah

[EnderWiggin]

Not to toot my own horn but I think telling dizzy to vote moon was towny from me bc I could have just not and I’m not confident he would have even with moon voting him

Sir, you can't say that you aren't tooting your own horn and then toot it!

This is a 'no toot' zone.

Sir!

[EnderWiggin]

I think Wilgy could be re eved but yeah

Do you think the "I don't think I will" could be w/w?

[EnderWiggin]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

I'mma think on this.

[Dolby]

I’m ngl this comes from not remembering my most Wilgy posts

[EnderWiggin]

My spew reads aren't the greatest, so I encourage other players to quote posts they think are relevant and talk about em too.

[EnderWiggin]

I’m ngl this comes from not remembering my most Wilgy posts

Good sir, that's one demerit for being too old to have a perfect memory.

[Porscha]

I personally don't feel like wilgy is particularly townie but they didn't ping me wolf when they posted. maybe in retrospect I'd find something i'll have to ISO wilgy

also the pattern of votes on me was rondo, then wilgy, then moon, then moon quickly went back to mac without saying why. wondering if rondo or wilgy are wolf and told moon to take their vote off me

[Porscha]

I know rondo didn't end on moon but I dont remember who wilgy voted besides me. I know they started with "pizzy" but idk if they ended on dizzy as well? probably

[Porscha]

my feeling on dolby is like... I guess it's possible they are wolf but I don't really think so right now

[Porscha]

who all ended on dizzy?