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wisdom's really concerning me rn because it seems like she's attributing posts to me that I didn't make
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I've read all of it but I skimmed parts. And was interrupted by caring for the baby in parts
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Wisdom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:35 am dyachei - I can see this be a wolf really, but that's mostly based on them town reading Alison and not wanting to vote in HK/Sabi and if Sabi is wolfing then this is ugh. If Sabi town, that's a town point for Dya though. @dyachei what's the concern you have on Marmot?
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Lol mafia is easy. woweeNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:16 pm @Alison has died. She flips...MAFIA! Goon.
Day continues, votes for alison will not be counted, and hammer remains at 7.
Spoiler: show
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 am Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh
They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off
I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
you don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her laterShending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 am Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh
They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off
I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".
Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:54 am well ok. I feel like this has happened twice now lmao (this and then the Cape thing where u appearently just copied his "tbh lol")
awkward
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
I think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:09 amyou don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her laterShending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 am Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh
They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off
I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".
You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?
I think Wilgy is probably spewed town but fyi, it’s not out of his range to fake that.
Agreed on Wilgy meta.Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:39 am @Wisdom I think Wilgy is more likely to have himself bussed over bussing another teammate.
I also am trying to think of a world where mafia hellbussed hk, and given that he was a PR, it doesn't seem like an optimal solution. If there are 5-6 mafia, they had plenty of voting power. But maybe the mafia team is just low WIM, and that WIM dropped even lower after that Alison shot.
I realize now I had read the ITA rules incorrectly. I thought we each got a shot in each window, but the reality is that we only get one shot total, so there was no rush to use it.
The reason I was proposing a list and pushing that discussion forward was twofold
1) If there were a 6 wolves, then utilizing all of our KP to eliminate them is important to lower the mafia/town ratio quickly and finding a consensus for who to ITA would be helpful.
2) I have a single Day 2 vig shot, and plan on using it after the second ITA window closes.
Marmot is very likely town, here.Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:48 am This is DrWilgy's vote from early Day 1.
And given hk's posts to that point:
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:16 pm I'd say I'm fashionably late but by the looks of things I'm still early
I think it's a bussable vote. I wouldn't put it past Wilgy to vote a teammate early on like this.
1. wisdom is always a hard read for me. I don't clear her or suspect her easilyShending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:16 amI think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:09 amyou don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her laterShending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 am Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh
They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off
I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".
You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?
Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.
It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.
It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.
Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things
you do realize several things she said I did I never did, right?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:15 am Wisdom: Probably 4 wolves left
Me: There’s no fucking way.
Me: Checks draft order. 8 wolf picks. psyduck.jpg
Me: Absolute inability to fully read a setup
Do appreciate the readlist. Dya sounds super wolfy from that tbh. Marmot also out of place in the readlist but w/e.
I've done it before and I'll do it again. I was one of the only people defending you in champs finale that year and that's the meta I'm usingJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:26 am Dya: I can read Jack well
Me: Strong conflicted feelings
I have taken note that you have said that and will not like ita shoot you or vote you based on Wisdom’s post.dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:25 amyou do realize several things she said I did I never did, right?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:15 am Wisdom: Probably 4 wolves left
Me: There’s no fucking way.
Me: Checks draft order. 8 wolf picks. psyduck.jpg
Me: Absolute inability to fully read a setup
Do appreciate the readlist. Dya sounds super wolfy from that tbh. Marmot also out of place in the readlist but w/e.
dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:35 amI'm not the best reader of sabi so holding off there for now. HK i usually get better at reading as time goes on. Same with alisonShending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:34 am So Axe V lean, me V lean, wisdom W lean
Is that all you have so far dya?
No thoughts at all bout Sabi / HK / Sean / Alison?
Why didn't you add HK to the people you didn't wanna vote, if he's in the same bucket as Alison as a person you think you're better at reading as the game goes on?
was HK a lead wagon at that time? I don't recall. But I probably just forgot to include HK because I literally pointed out I get better at reading him as time goes on.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:33 amdyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:35 amI'm not the best reader of sabi so holding off there for now. HK i usually get better at reading as time goes on. Same with alisonShending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:34 am So Axe V lean, me V lean, wisdom W lean
Is that all you have so far dya?
No thoughts at all bout Sabi / HK / Sean / Alison?Why didn't you add HK to the people you didn't wanna vote, if he's in the same bucket as Alison as a person you think you're better at reading as the game goes on?
What differentiated those 2 people in your mind when you made this list of "i dont wanna vote"?
This is understandable and NAI. Maybe even slightly townie.dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:09 amyou don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her laterShending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 am Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh
They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off
I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".
You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?
I kinda feel the opposite.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:16 amI think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:09 amyou don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her laterShending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 am Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh
They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off
I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".
You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?
Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.
It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.
It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.
Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things
read the post like RIGHT before it where I said I didnt have a read on alison because I do better reading her later in the game.
We were never in the world where Dya actually said those things and still claiming misattribution. I was never implying that and you missed my point if that's what you thought i was saying.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:42 amI kinda feel the opposite.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:16 amI think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:09 amyou don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her laterShending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 am Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh
They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off
I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".
You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?
Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.
It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.
It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.
Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things
In that there’s not very much wolf agenda to push Wisdom, who is never getting misyeeted itg. And if Dya really said those things and Wisdom is correct? What good is claiming misattribution going to do?
Contrast town Dya, who is giving those statements because they’re just true from their pov.
I mean, sure, but if we're quitting the semantics you still directly soft defended both HK and Alison, regardless of what your actual reads were.
I wouldn't call that a defense. I also didnt stop anyone else from voting hk or alisonWisdom wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:51 amI mean, sure, but if we're quitting the semantics you still directly soft defended both HK and Alison, regardless of what your actual reads were.
I just don't see why you're trying to make it sound like I don't make sense. Feels like you're stuck on the smaller details rather than the bigger picture, in a way that's intended to discredit me rather than trying to help town.
Sorry, I don't wanna be rude! Can you give me two names that you think would flip wolf?
@Shending_Help any reason why you changed your mind on me?Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:48 amThat's very Pog.
In other news: I'm like halfway through my re-read of the game, and my current towncore is:
Me
Wisdom
Sean
You
Cape
*slight gap*
Sabi (especially if Dya is a wolf, which is where i'm leaning. But *probably* town regardless)
I also wanna tell you that I think you're wrong where you in #199 townread Dya for her post that was complaining about Wisdom's V-read on her being not deserved.
That's a very Dyachei kind of post, but not an AI one IMO.
Anyway, more thoughts of mine coming in a while (that's mostly gonna be me justifying my towncore)
(I'm also retracting my Cop cover, so I don't have Spacedaisy as n0 anymore)
I wasn’t saying you said that.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:49 amWe were never in the world where Dya actually said those things and still claiming misattribution. I was never implying that and you missed my point if that's what you thought i was saying.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:42 amI kinda feel the opposite.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:16 amI think it's concerning that your view doesn't give off a holistic feeling.dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:09 amyou don't think it's weird she's attributing shit to me that I've never said? Like I didnt even have a read on marmot and my read on alison was I do better reading her laterShending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:01 am Then i find it quite concerning you have wisdom as concerning tbh
They should be the most clear person in the game from interactions with Alison/HK almost never being w/w ontop of shooting Alison when there were a lot of shots that would've been more consensus at the time. And Wisdom's general tone/solving/WIM is also one of the highest in the game. But even ignoring that last point, I feel your focus this game has been kind of off
I also have troubles with your post yesterday basically saying "Both HK and Alison I wanna leave alive til later before i try reading them, since they get easier to read over time".
You can't understand why that's concerning fmpov?
Like, if person A has done a ton of things that should make them very town, and then that person does something that I find rand wolf, maybe I would call it out and question it and try to figure out if I could've been wrong there. But I wouldn't straight up call that person concerning without having the earlier things in mind.
It's different if a person I'm null on would say something that's rand wolf, THEN I might call that person straight up concerning.
It's different in my mind to call a *thing* as off, and what you did, "wisdom is really conerning me". That implies that person is higher on your suspect list and you want others to put focus there.
Which leads me to believe you're not trying to find a towncore but just looking for things to push on (preferably breaking up the current consensus towncore if it's correct), which is how wolves like to do things
In that there’s not very much wolf agenda to push Wisdom, who is never getting misyeeted itg. And if Dya really said those things and Wisdom is correct? What good is claiming misattribution going to do?
Contrast town Dya, who is giving those statements because they’re just true from their pov.
I'm saying V!dya would have a reason to go "oh this is weird but Wisdom is prolly still town for shooting Alison and not being w/w with HK" while W!dya would have a reason to ignore those things and see if they could make others tinfoil a bit on wisdom just in case that misyeet is needed further down the line
It's possible what Dya is saying is from a town!POV. That they really think it's NAI to push/shoot Alison because Alison would be a bussable slot for draft reasons. And that Dya thinks that the HK interactions aren't useful because of some reason I haven't seen Dya adress yet. And that Dya is ignoring Wisdom on principle because they are more confident in reading other people.
But I think the world where Dya is wolfing makes so much more sense
I’m not saying you can’t read me well. It’s just that it’s good for townDya to correctly townread townJack itg right now given we are both in the poe but it’s long run bad for future wolfJacks if you can correctly read me. Hence internal conflict.dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:27 amI've done it before and I'll do it again. I was one of the only people defending you in champs finale that year and that's the meta I'm usingJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:26 am Dya: I can read Jack well
Me: Strong conflicted feelings
Honestly, it would be kinda weird for a wolf to try to forgo reading two different partners under the idea they are good at reading them later. Plus, I think HK is kinda easy to read? Like his town and wolf games aren’t the same.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Mon Jul 18, 2022 9:33 amdyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:35 amI'm not the best reader of sabi so holding off there for now. HK i usually get better at reading as time goes on. Same with alisonShending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:34 am So Axe V lean, me V lean, wisdom W lean
Is that all you have so far dya?
No thoughts at all bout Sabi / HK / Sean / Alison?Why didn't you add HK to the people you didn't wanna vote, if he's in the same bucket as Alison as a person you think you're better at reading as the game goes on?
What differentiated those 2 people in your mind when you made this list of "i dont wanna vote"?
Jokes on you. I'd likely not have known as either alignment.