Gym Class Mafia D7

[dunya]

[VOTE: Dyachei] aubergine

[Marmot]

@Marmot why am i town to you? as town, you've historically struggled to assign me as a town read. what's changed or what did i do wrong here? :P

It's not something I want to share until game ends, sorry.

[Shending_Help]

oh wait we both did it. gosh dang it.

Lmao

[Marmot]

[VOTE: dya] aubergine

[Seanzie]

there's no way seanzie gets marmot this wrong, he was begging for a misyeet to win the game. there's no way seanzie as town doesn't vote dya today.

the fact he went and quickly voted marmot is telling in itself.


there's no way marmot is wolf. i will bank on that.

Pretty sure the only time we've actually played together I tunneled you when everyone else thought you were town. Why is this game different?

are you consciously trying to mimic your town game?

Are you trying to protect Marmot?

people who answer a question with another question are more likely trying to lie.

Lol, kinda think you just admitted to lying. Funny.

[Shending_Help]

[VOTE: Dyachei] aubergine

[dunya]

HYPE

dya yeet is happening

HYPEEEEEEE

i love dya so much, but we are cursed and always end up playing against each other. ;__;

[Shending_Help]

Marmot and Sean are both town. I'm locking it in.

Team is like Dya/falc/dolby+1

[dunya]

Marmot and Sean are both town. I'm locking it in.

Team is like Dya/falc/dolby+1

hmmmmmmmm

i will quote the spacedaisy post i felt was townie

[Shending_Help]

Marmot and Sean are both town. I'm locking it in.

Team is like Dya/falc/dolby+1

hmmmmmmmm

i will quote the spacedaisy post i felt was townie

If Spacedaisy is town, you're town. Then... Who the fuck are the wolves with 4 left. I can believe one of you 2 are town, but almost never both

[Seanzie]

Marmot and Sean are both town. I'm locking it in.

Team is like Dya/falc/dolby+1

hmmmmmmmm

i will quote the spacedaisy post i felt was townie

Still waiting for you to answer my original question.

[Marmot]

I did cross votes with Sean, but I've also already laid out why I think Hess a wolf here, albeit dunya explained it way better than I did.

Sean, can you not see why that makes sense from my pov?

[Shending_Help]

Who's Hess?

[Shending_Help]

Oh I'm dumb.

I disagree tho

[Marmot]

Typo lmao

[dunya]

Marmot and Sean are both town. I'm locking it in.

Team is like Dya/falc/dolby+1

hmmmmmmmm

i will quote the spacedaisy post i felt was townie

Still waiting for you to answer my original question.

because you removed your vote off Marmot

[Shending_Help]

I don't think all of Sean's pushes feels super genuine tbf, but I've played with loads of villas who constantly make prods and pushes on ppl that they don't truly believe to be wolves yet in order to get a better feel for them, and Sean feels like one of those ppl.

And then some of his pushes do feel genuine, and he has said many things I think a wolf wouldn't be likely to fake, and Alison spewed him so

[Marmot]

Cape is another possibility? He did prod at me last night when Sean was pushing me.

[Seanzie]

I did cross votes with Sean, but I've also already laid out why I think Hess a wolf here, albeit dunya explained it way better than I did.

Sean, can you not see why that makes sense from my pov?

Your reads on both me and Dya are purely associative, so no, I don't give associative reads much credit, and you don't hardpush like I do, so I don't see your read on me making much sense. You also say I didn't do much D1 when I was one of the biggest Alison critics and my vote (not yours) was the one who buried HK.

[Shending_Help]

I think I'm MORE likely to be wrong on Cape than either of you 2, cuz I guess it's possible Alison played as if she'd die early from the very beginning and therefore shaded cape all the time as a anti - spew plan. And while Cape has been towny Imo, he's not been lack clear lvls of Cape that he was in FAM (but we gotta remember that that game had no postcap while this does. So it is harder to obv town here)

[Seanzie]

Marmot and Sean are both town. I'm locking it in.

Team is like Dya/falc/dolby+1

hmmmmmmmm

i will quote the spacedaisy post i felt was townie

Still waiting for you to answer my original question.

because you removed your vote off Marmot

That doesn't answer the question. I asked how I am different now compared to the game I tunnelled you in. You deflected rather than answered.

[Shending_Help]

I didn't like Capes 'gotcha' on me earlier today.

Still think he's town but yeah, could be wrong

[Marmot]

I did cross votes with Sean, but I've also already laid out why I think Hess a wolf here, albeit dunya explained it way better than I did.

Sean, can you not see why that makes sense from my pov?

Your reads on both me and Dya are purely associative, so no, I don't give associative reads much credit, and you don't hardpush like I do, so I don't see your read on me making much sense. You also say I didn't do much D1 when I was one of the biggest Alison critics and my vote (not yours) was the one who buried HK.

Where did I say you didn't do much Day 1?

Why are you now suddenly claiming to make the burying vote on hk? At the time, the votes all came in at the same time (albeit I think Spacedaisy made the tie). Why claim that now when I'm pushing you and not when it happened?

[Seanzie]

I did cross votes with Sean, but I've also already laid out why I think Hess a wolf here, albeit dunya explained it way better than I did.

Sean, can you not see why that makes sense from my pov?

Your reads on both me and Dya are purely associative, so no, I don't give associative reads much credit, and you don't hardpush like I do, so I don't see your read on me making much sense. You also say I didn't do much D1 when I was one of the biggest Alison critics and my vote (not yours) was the one who buried HK.

Where did I say you didn't do much Day 1?

Why are you now suddenly claiming to make the burying vote on hk? At the time, the votes all came in at the same time (albeit I think Spacedaisy made the tie). Why claim that now when I'm pushing you and not when it happened?

In the post where you "cased" me. You asked if it makes sense from your POV. I say no and I have evidence to back that up.

Also, the votes didn't come in at the same time, you were pretty far behind. I was surprised you "broke" the tie because I had already broken it and some time had passed (seconds, not minutes, but still).

[Shending_Help]

I'm probably leaving pretty much for the day, possibly I'll check in quickly tonight before EoD and check the situation, but if any1 wants to ask me something today, now would be the best time

[dyachei]

im not really comfortable here @Cape90 I'm busy, particularly when people seem to be on. I've also got not shot of surviving today I think

[Seanzie]

Kinda surprised how slow it is. Where is everyone who hasn't voted? Have you all seen the VC?

Also, I'd like to reemphasize that I really do think we should massclaim. We are in elo and need as much info as we can get. Shending claimed, but Dya, Dunya and Cape have been in the thread since I suggested this, and none of them acknowledged it.

[dyachei]

I'm VT

[dunya]

Marmot and Sean are both town. I'm locking it in.

Team is like Dya/falc/dolby+1

hmmmmmmmm

i will quote the spacedaisy post i felt was townie

Still waiting for you to answer my original question.

because you removed your vote off Marmot

That doesn't answer the question. I asked how I am different now compared to the game I tunnelled you in. You deflected rather than answered.

as hard as you try, i'm not going to meta you based on 1 game, seanzie, sorry.

[dunya]

i dont want to claim. i softed though. anyone who knows me knows my role.

[dunya]

dya 100% mafia hit, and thread state is evidence of that.

[Marmot]

My role's already public.

Also yes, dya is a confirmed wolf at this point based on vc.

[Cape90]

im not really comfortable here @Cape90 I'm busy, particularly when people seem to be on. I've also got not shot of surviving today I think

why did you ping me lmao? E-1 time baby

[Cape90]

Marmot/Seanzie thing is weird, nobody hammered on it

I will get thoughts there soon

[Cape90]

I don't think all of Sean's pushes feels super genuine tbf, but I've played with loads of villas who constantly make prods and pushes on ppl that they don't truly believe to be wolves yet in order to get a better feel for them, and Sean feels like one of those ppl.

And then some of his pushes do feel genuine, and he has said many things I think a wolf wouldn't be likely to fake, and Alison spewed him so

This is kind of an odd thing to say when earlier you sided with Sean being town over Marmot

I'm still pretty sure youre both town. Since probably falcon is an Afk wolf the wolves wouldn't have the power to hammer yet.

If I'm wrong on one of them it'd probably be Marmot over Sean at this point, but I still think they're both town. And crossing in lylo is a normal reaction sean, it's not outing however much you want to confbias you being right on this.

Just like your argument of "he should know I'm town here" I'm sure Marmot feels the exact same, especially with his post about not having won as a wolf in a long time.

Can we just all unvote and make a reasonable yeet instead before it's too late?

(PS. I think sean is *probably* always town for the comment about sitting ready on 2 devices with the finger on the unvote button)

I really really really don't think Sean would feel forced to do this balls-to-the-walls move to win as wolf. And I also believe the way that he's tinfoiled himself into this world. I believe his comments about being ready to unvote on 2 devices. I believe in my Sean towncase I posted the other day, I think only my wisdom Town case was stronger than it. I especially still believe Alison subtly shaded Sean when Sean tried to clear himself on meta reasons similar to Axes. In a for sure spewy way.

If any1 is thinking about ever voting Sean today because he's flipping out, then please look at the big picture and see there's 1000 reasons why he's just town here.

With that said... We probably still lose

[Cape90]

oh right

I claim VT

[Cape90]

i dont want to claim. i softed though. anyone who knows me knows my role.

I am turning around on you as it looks like my wolf world is wrong since obviously one of Marmot or Seanzie is mafia here and you look better today i think

kinda pissed off (at no one ftr, just at the game) sabi didn't find harder for survival last phase tbh would have made a whole difference we if had gotten dya yesterday and sabi was still alive. after jack flipped town, dya was guaranteed wolf.

im flabbergasted by seanzie's wolf play today tbh. can't wrap my head around it beyond dya and falcon have PRs and nook is allowing the wolf team to control falcon's PR and seanize is goon.

mostly for these 2 quotes and the fact I don't think you could be dyachei's wolf partner

[Cape90]

I didn't like Capes 'gotcha' on me earlier today.

Still think he's town but yeah, could be wrong

I usually do it as either alignment

As town it's a reaction test or just to see why a person typed out a thing.

As mafia it's me just trying to be opportunistic

For me it was more the first as when I read that post on my phone, it's like I tunnel-visioned on that specific part of the post

[Cape90]

I think I'm MORE likely to be wrong on Cape than either of you 2, cuz I guess it's possible Alison played as if she'd die early from the very beginning and therefore shaded cape all the time as a anti - spew plan. And while Cape has been towny Imo, he's not been lack clear lvls of Cape that he was in FAM (but we gotta remember that that game had no postcap while this does. So it is harder to obv town here)

what is even the difference between that and here

I feel like I thrive in games where there is unlimited content to talk about

[Cape90]

dunya's soft claim also kinda towny tbh

[Cape90]

People not voting dya: Dolby/Seanzie/falcon/DrWigly

Pretty sure dya is just outed based on this line up

[Cape90]

@Seanzie, why did you push to kill Sabi yesterday?

you didnt vote and try and stop it since over here you seem so against it

[Cape90]

I'm scrolling back through Sean's ISO to look at his interactions with dya. There was negligible content on Day 1, but Day 2 does offer these back-and-forths, leading to Sean voting for dya. It isn't much of a case, it's a back and forth prodding of sorts.

you quoted like 2 things

[Cape90]

Sean later dropped this vote (and push?) of dya in favor of sabi. I can't entirely fault him for this, because I wanted to kill sabi too, but I still don't think we should have killed sabi then, and Sean pushing for at this moment . I think the thread in general agreed on this, but sabi was pushed and killed instead.

So you can't fault Sean for it huh?

@Seanzie, why did you push to kill Sabi yesterday?

[Cape90]

I'mma sleep on it, but at this point, I believe we just auto-chop Sean/dya and then see where we're at.

I'd like feedback from everyone else when you get a chance.


[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

This is outing. There is no need to cross, but Marmot is going to vote me and sleep. No townie would do that.

why would there be no need to cross, you are mafia if Marmot is town

[DrWilgy]

Good morning,

We hammering Dya?

K

[Cape90]

Like, I'm sitting here, playing on two devices with one continually having "no vote" selected and my mouse on "submit vote" in case a wagon forms on Marmot, I can unvote instantly, because while I think he is scum, I'm not about to put that much faith into my own reads to not be wary about what is going on. Marmot's "vote Seanzie, I'm going to sleep" is BS. He has a reasonably good read on me, and so he should know I'm town, or at least think I might be, so him hard-committing to me being wolf is bad. Him planting on me is bad. Marmot is bad.

scum could literally plan when to hammer someone so I am not sure this would work

[DrWilgy]

Hammer acheived

[VOTE: dya] aubergine

[dyachei]

[DrWilgy]

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