Gym Class Mafia D7
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D3
I would have voted Marmot if I was there for the whole thing going down I guess. I don't particularly like their Seanzie case and I just gave reasons why
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D3
dyachei ( 5 ) dunya, Shending_Help, DrWilgy, Marmot, Cape90
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Not Voting ( 3 ) dyachei, falcon45ca, dolby
Seanzie ( 1 ) Seanzie
Not Voting ( 3 ) dyachei, falcon45ca, dolby
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D3
@dyachei flips MAFIA, goon
Actions due by July 23, 6pm eastern, sod is an hour after that.
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Actions lock at 6 and I have stuff to do, so you're getting day start a bit early!
In the night! @dunya dies. She flips town, VT.
Today is F7. Town must eliminate a mafia to continue the game. Votes do NOT lock. Hammer is 4, eod is July 25, 7pm eastern.
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In the night! @dunya dies. She flips town, VT.
Today is F7. Town must eliminate a mafia to continue the game. Votes do NOT lock. Hammer is 4, eod is July 25, 7pm eastern.
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
So there was at lesat one busser on Dya, but honestly how the day went, I'd guess it is more likely two. It would have made little sense for wolves to try to push someone over Dya in that thread.
That would give two wolves in:
Shending_Help, DrWilgy, Marmot, Cape90
and one in:
falcon45ca, dolby
Wilgy's hammer definitely doesn't have to be pure. I still kinda like the idea of Shending/Marmot, but Dunya seemed pretty convinced Marmot was town, so I might sheep her read there at least for today. Cape is someone who I have felt fine about all game, and thus kinda just ignored, so I suppose I should really try to revaluate them to make sure they aren't slipping by.
On the other grouping, I just don't remember anything either of these slots did. @falcon45ca please get in here and post as much content as you can. @Spacedaisy please get in here and post as much content as you can.
That would give two wolves in:
Shending_Help, DrWilgy, Marmot, Cape90
and one in:
falcon45ca, dolby
Wilgy's hammer definitely doesn't have to be pure. I still kinda like the idea of Shending/Marmot, but Dunya seemed pretty convinced Marmot was town, so I might sheep her read there at least for today. Cape is someone who I have felt fine about all game, and thus kinda just ignored, so I suppose I should really try to revaluate them to make sure they aren't slipping by.
On the other grouping, I just don't remember anything either of these slots did. @falcon45ca please get in here and post as much content as you can. @Spacedaisy please get in here and post as much content as you can.
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...
Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Today is rly hard though, because now we need to decide if dya would try to cfd falcon d1 as W W. I think prob still yes?
And while Spacedaisy has the d1 vote in her favor, I'm running out of enough viable wolf condidates for her to be V
And while Spacedaisy has the d1 vote in her favor, I'm running out of enough viable wolf condidates for her to be V
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
I think Dolby / SD would currently be my most confident hit.
Falc prob maf too, and then 1 out of Wigly and cape, leaning Wigly. But this game is hard.
If it wasn't for the fact that I've had quite a bit of sys thrown my way I would've been looking to reevaluate which read I'm wrong on, but I feel in this gamestate I wouldn't be the NK even if I'm dead on, since I'm a likely misyeet (somehow)
The Dunya kill was likely because of her Pr soft and the that she wasn't super likely to be W W with dya. It makes sense I think even in the world where I'm right on Marmot and Sean being Town.
So I'm sticking to Sean / Marmot V. I know I'm kinda just conf biasing my way into sticking with my prior reads, but eh. I believe in my original reasoning and can see a reasonable world where these nks happen and I'm right. That's good enough for me
Falc prob maf too, and then 1 out of Wigly and cape, leaning Wigly. But this game is hard.
If it wasn't for the fact that I've had quite a bit of sys thrown my way I would've been looking to reevaluate which read I'm wrong on, but I feel in this gamestate I wouldn't be the NK even if I'm dead on, since I'm a likely misyeet (somehow)
The Dunya kill was likely because of her Pr soft and the that she wasn't super likely to be W W with dya. It makes sense I think even in the world where I'm right on Marmot and Sean being Town.
So I'm sticking to Sean / Marmot V. I know I'm kinda just conf biasing my way into sticking with my prior reads, but eh. I believe in my original reasoning and can see a reasonable world where these nks happen and I'm right. That's good enough for me
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Just a heads up. I'm at a convention, and then I'm going to another convention right afterwards on Wednesday, so I'm likely gonna post very minimally. If you need reasons why I'm V:
-Look at wisdom dying with me still as confident V.
-Look at Jack dying with me as confident V.
- Look at the part of my iso where I selfmetad why I'm V to wisdom in a couple posts.
-Look at me pushing for an Alison shot when she wasn't on the table if you looked at the posts in the thread at the time.
-Look at me pushing dya D2 before any1 else did. Look at the manner which dya explained why I'm town, and I think you will see its spew and not forcing a townread on a partner.
-Look at me having a PR read on Marmot d1 but him not dying
-Look at how I tried to adjust the path yesterday was going with all my might when the Sean Marmot stuff happened.
I rly don't hope I'm gonna be the game losing misyeet this game after putting in as much WIM as I have this game and having a bunch of reasons backing up why I'm not a wolf
-Look at wisdom dying with me still as confident V.
-Look at Jack dying with me as confident V.
- Look at the part of my iso where I selfmetad why I'm V to wisdom in a couple posts.
-Look at me pushing for an Alison shot when she wasn't on the table if you looked at the posts in the thread at the time.
-Look at me pushing dya D2 before any1 else did. Look at the manner which dya explained why I'm town, and I think you will see its spew and not forcing a townread on a partner.
-Look at me having a PR read on Marmot d1 but him not dying
-Look at how I tried to adjust the path yesterday was going with all my might when the Sean Marmot stuff happened.
I rly don't hope I'm gonna be the game losing misyeet this game after putting in as much WIM as I have this game and having a bunch of reasons backing up why I'm not a wolf
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
I only mentioned you in regards to a you/Marmot world, so all your arguments don't work. But... The "Sean.." is super townie. Like you've clearly exasperated, not worried, just exasperated.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...
Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
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Why would I be exasperated in that gamestate, especially when Dunya (now conf. Town) was going in on you during that time? I would've had the win in the grasp of my hand, but decided to commit super hard to try to stop that bullshit from happeningSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:03 pmI only mentioned you in regards to a you/Marmot world, so all your arguments don't work. But... The "Sean.." is super townie. Like you've clearly exasperated, not worried, just exasperated.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...
Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
The "exasperated" thing was specifically a microread based on you starting your post with "Sean..". You are exasperated by my first post from today in a way that I think probably points to you being town. Not clearing you, but I'm conaidering worlds without you right now.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:06 pmWhy would I be exasperated in that gamestate, especially when Dunya (now conf. Town) was going in on you during that time? I would've had the win in the grasp of my hand, but decided to commit super hard to try to stop that bullshit from happeningSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:03 pmI only mentioned you in regards to a you/Marmot world, so all your arguments don't work. But... The "Sean.." is super townie. Like you've clearly exasperated, not worried, just exasperated.Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...
Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Oh OK that's good
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
I would feel bad if I was hard defending W Marmot all this time, but I don't rly see him preclaiming the shot the way he did D2 as a wolf. He's also been towny, but I could be wrong 

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Marmot's shot was loud...Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:20 pm I would feel bad if I was hard defending W Marmot all this time, but I don't rly see him preclaiming the shot the way he did D2 as a wolf. He's also been towny, but I could be wrong![]()
I came into today thinking I'd put Marmot aside, but ugh... my gut really tells me there is something there.
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Falcon has been missing since d1. It's p tragic having to play a late game with a slot like that. The only way of trying to read him is looking at how other slots treat him, but the fact that a slot like that is super bussable makes that a freaking challenge too
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
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The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
This is not the argument that Sean was presenting inShending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...
Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
Like literally Sean would literally just have to be like "well I guess so"
Anyways sorry for being late in thread but I was honestly lurking just to see what Marmot would do at SOD today
Sean's whole
Like these comments are admittedly odd to me
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
aren't all shots "loud" in the whole ITA thing that happened or is that not what your talking aboutSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:26 pmMarmot's shot was loud...Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:20 pm I would feel bad if I was hard defending W Marmot all this time, but I don't rly see him preclaiming the shot the way he did D2 as a wolf. He's also been towny, but I could be wrong![]()
I came into today thinking I'd put Marmot aside, but ugh... my gut really tells me there is something there.
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
yeah, that slot is totally up in the air, I mean there was the dya push on them but lord knows what that meansShending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:34 pm Falcon has been missing since d1. It's p tragic having to play a late game with a slot like that. The only way of trying to read him is looking at how other slots treat him, but the fact that a slot like that is super bussable makes that a freaking challenge too
same kind of thing with the Spacedaisy slot that was Dolby briefly, not sure what to think of them, Dolby almost did nothing when they were complaining that they needed to read the game. Well, besides the very start of last day
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
I will say
The only world where Marmot/Seanzie could possibly be T/T is if falcon is mafia since falcon has not been here
Didn't consider that yesterday
The only world where Marmot/Seanzie could possibly be T/T is if falcon is mafia since falcon has not been here
Didn't consider that yesterday
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D3
What is odd about them? Marmot was viewing the thread for long periods of time without posting. Lurkyboi status achieved.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:35 pmThis is not the argument that Sean was presenting inShending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...
Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
Like literally Sean would literally just have to be like "well I guess so"
Anyways sorry for being late in thread but I was honestly lurking just to see what Marmot would do at SOD today
Sean's whole
Like these comments are admittedly odd to me
I'm talking about Marmot's dayvig, not the ITAs.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:37 pmaren't all shots "loud" in the whole ITA thing that happened or is that not what your talking aboutSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:26 pmMarmot's shot was loud...Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:20 pm I would feel bad if I was hard defending W Marmot all this time, but I don't rly see him preclaiming the shot the way he did D2 as a wolf. He's also been towny, but I could be wrong![]()
I came into today thinking I'd put Marmot aside, but ugh... my gut really tells me there is something there.
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Multiple people haven't been here, but yeah, the fact that I didn't get hammered when Marmot and I crossed for a night is strongly indicative of either wolf!Marmot or some absentee wolves (or both).
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Oh so they were I am guessing online here before they talked I imagine from you saying this?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:41 pmWhat is odd about them? Marmot was viewing the thread for long periods of time without posting. Lurkyboi status achieved.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:35 pmThis is not the argument that Sean was presenting inShending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:36 pm Sean.. If I was a wolf seeing town!Sean vote and push town!Marmot, and then I see Marmot even cross, would I start screaming that this is terrible and you should both focus up and unvote so we can just kill Dya...
Bussing in a rough spot is 1 thing, but arguing that I would play yesterday the way I did is close to lunacy, ESPECIALLY if you're in the world where Dunya was right on Marmot V
Like literally Sean would literally just have to be like "well I guess so"
Anyways sorry for being late in thread but I was honestly lurking just to see what Marmot would do at SOD today
Sean's whole
Like these comments are admittedly odd to me
I'm talking about Marmot's dayvig, not the ITAs.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:37 pmaren't all shots "loud" in the whole ITA thing that happened or is that not what your talking aboutSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:26 pmMarmot's shot was loud...Shending_Help wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:20 pm I would feel bad if I was hard defending W Marmot all this time, but I don't rly see him preclaiming the shot the way he did D2 as a wolf. He's also been towny, but I could be wrong![]()
I came into today thinking I'd put Marmot aside, but ugh... my gut really tells me there is something there.
Also
Didn't realize that the Marmot shot was not an ITA but a dayvig
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D3
Mafia likely killed dunya off this.
dunya was on the side of seeing Seanzie as mafia and Marmot as town
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Well, everyone else at least did something yesterday. Even if lack of thread presence from multiple people.
It's making the game a bit annoying for me because it's like
I wanna be here less just because half the people arent here
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D3
Plus Dunya was reasonably well townread and her kill could set up a miselim on me, but yeah, I agree that her softing likely helped.
That's fair. I'm just cognisent that it was overnight and a lot of people have been extremely inactive, so I don't want to confbias my way into assuming Marmot has to be wolf because they weren't hammered. I'd rather confbias over other things, like Marmot lurking, or the fact that his shot was loud but I don't think he gave any indication of this, which made his play around the shot seem a lot more AI than it actually was.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:53 pmWell, everyone else at least did something yesterday. Even if lack of thread presence from multiple people.
It's making the game a bit annoying for me because it's like
I wanna be here less just because half the people arent here
Yeah, this has been a tough gamestate to play in due to inactives. Fighting through it is all well can do though.
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I don’t know why Dolby subbed in for me. I probably missed it in the mechanics. But I was replaced for a day basically and we had chat during that time.
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That's weird.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:00 pm I don’t know why Dolby subbed in for me. I probably missed it in the mechanics. But I was replaced for a day basically and we had chat during that time.
Anyways, you're one of the low content slots that is making this game very difficult to solve. Would you mind walking me through your current worldview? Who are wolves, who are town, and do you have a claim? (I called for a massclaim yesterday, maybe half the people have claimed. The rest are mostly inactive).
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
How'd we get to d5 so quickly.
What an odd game.
What an odd game.
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Dolby pretty strongly believed Wilgy was town. Dolby was also told my role. I am VT. I don’t know anything about Dolby’s role except that he did share the couple reads I had which was Marmot is town and dunya is mafia. But as I read during the day I was not allowed to post, my mind changed on dunya and she ended up dead.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:04 pmThat's weird.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:00 pm I don’t know why Dolby subbed in for me. I probably missed it in the mechanics. But I was replaced for a day basically and we had chat during that time.
Anyways, you're one of the low content slots that is making this game very difficult to solve. Would you mind walking me through your current worldview? Who are wolves, who are town, and do you have a claim? (I called for a massclaim yesterday, maybe half the people have claimed. The rest are mostly inactive).
The thing is, going back to HK’s elimination, I am 99% certain that when I voted I scrolled down and saw that sabi had four votes and I had just cast the fifth vote on HK and thought it was good I just broke a tie, even though I hadn’t planned it. I am really quite sure you and Marmot were rushing around to break a tie that I already broke but you didn’t know it because I voted before I posted my vote in the thread. Considering this, I think the fact one of you tried to break the tie in favor of saving hk (who flipped mafia) by voting sabi (flipped town IIRC) is suspect. I previously thought both of you were town, now I think one of you is bad. I lean towards you but I really have to go back and see who cast that vote right after me that created the second tie, because it wasn’t me. Given the fact you also voted in a way that would have saved dya, and dunya is now dead who was certain you were bad, I have reservations about you. I’ll need to do more research tomorrow when my brain is more clear. Sick brain is fuzzy.
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
I know Falcon being missing was somehow suspicious given some kind of activity, as mentioned by Dolby in our chat but I don’t really recall the details. That’s someone I’d consider. Shen I would like to look at more because i feel a bit blank there, but I also don’t know them. So I don’t have a read but I would like to because I think it’s help me.
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Oh yeah wtf. I never actually noticed nanook actually announced that it was Marmot shooting jack. I was like "wtf does he mean with loud?"
Shieeeet.
I guess Marmot could be a wolf then
Shieeeet.
I guess Marmot could be a wolf then
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Also, not sure if thats just a mistake, but I'm p sure this is supposed to be D4, not D5. D1 yeet was HK. D2 ita on Alison and big on Jack anf yeet on sabi. D3 yeet on dya. Now d4...?
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I let the Jack flip distract me from seeing this at the time probablyShending_Help wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:52 am Oh yeah wtf. I never actually noticed nanook actually announced that it was Marmot shooting jack. I was like "wtf does he mean with loud?"
Shieeeet.
I guess Marmot could be a wolf then
It's rly key...
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
Let's remember that we know :
-HK flipped PR,
-there's 6 mafia since we're in a must-yeet scenario
-if there's 6 mafia a that means theres max 2 mafia favored Prs / mechanics.
So if Marmot is a wolf that means that the other 2 left are goons. I guess that doesn't help much, but thought I'd mention it
-HK flipped PR,
-there's 6 mafia since we're in a must-yeet scenario
-if there's 6 mafia a that means theres max 2 mafia favored Prs / mechanics.
So if Marmot is a wolf that means that the other 2 left are goons. I guess that doesn't help much, but thought I'd mention it
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I'm still very confident Sean is V, while the biggest reason I thought Marmot is town has vanished. So unless Sean unvoted at some point again, I'm voting there. But I would still prefer both falcon/SD votes i think
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D5
I think I'm pretty locked on Marmot at this point. If I'm wrong, sorry, but I don't think I am.
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