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[robyn]

it might

[robyn]

Why is Lucy voting herself?

this is weird

[robyn]

also once I flip town you better consider me to be a scum player that makes no mistakes such as these @Seanzie

If you flip town here, it will not affect my opinion of your scum game, only on your town game.

how will it effect ur perception of my town game

[robyn]

I blame myself for getting lynched and not ultra clear

[MacDougall]

thoughts on dizzy/vivax @MacDougall

dizzy is very town
vivax is quite town

[MacDougall]

I would say in terms of how they feel, Vulgard and Seanzie feel the most town in terms of their tone, process ... just on read.

[MacDougall]

Nanook is still quite likely town for the Axe kill.

Wilgy doesn't really have anything going for him. Why is he not in anyone's POE?

[MacDougall]

Oh yeah Nanook shield. Wilgy is always town for that I guess?

[robyn]

thoughts on dizzy/vivax @MacDougall

dizzy is very town
vivax is quite town

hard disagree

[robyn]

Lucy, you should sleep. I'm worried about you now

read this mac

[robyn]

literally tells u her alignment

[MacDougall]

So we have to chop Lucy or Nanook today probably. Then if the game isn't over I almost surely die. Then you ALWAYS sleep into f5. Don't sleep into f3.

[MacDougall]

literally tells u her alignment

gonna need you to explain that better

[robyn]

So we have to chop Lucy or Nanook today probably. Then if the game isn't over I almost surely die. Then you ALWAYS sleep into f5. Don't sleep into f3.

me and nanook is a lazy solve

[robyn]

literally tells u her alignment

gonna need you to explain that better

it's scummy, I know why but you have to figure it out for yourself

[MacDougall]

I mostly prefer Tommy or Porscha as a chop

I don't really think Porscha calling Sean's read on Mac wrong is a great case against her. I think town easily say stuff like that, and I think she mentioned something about assuming Mac town anyway. I mean, if she's mafia, it probably is TMI, but I don't think it's impossible that she can say that as town. But her posts has been kind of weak and wishy-washy overall. I don't get any will to solve. The problem with Porscha is that if she's town, she is likely to become more obvious later on

Tommy is both PoE and just, he's here, but he's not contributing anything. And what he does post doesn't really give me a new town feel. It doesn't really give me anything tbh. The problem with Tommy is that if he flips and flips town, we're not really getting anywhere. But I think there's also a very decent chance he's just mafia here

In any case, would mostly like to hear more from both Tommy and Porscha

Is this a day 1 post Dyslexicon makes about both teammates?

[MacDougall]

literally tells u her alignment

gonna need you to explain that better

it's scummy, I know why but you have to figure it out for yourself

How very towny of you.

[robyn]

I mostly prefer Tommy or Porscha as a chop

I don't really think Porscha calling Sean's read on Mac wrong is a great case against her. I think town easily say stuff like that, and I think she mentioned something about assuming Mac town anyway. I mean, if she's mafia, it probably is TMI, but I don't think it's impossible that she can say that as town. But her posts has been kind of weak and wishy-washy overall. I don't get any will to solve. The problem with Porscha is that if she's town, she is likely to become more obvious later on

Tommy is both PoE and just, he's here, but he's not contributing anything. And what he does post doesn't really give me a new town feel. It doesn't really give me anything tbh. The problem with Tommy is that if he flips and flips town, we're not really getting anywhere. But I think there's also a very decent chance he's just mafia here

In any case, would mostly like to hear more from both Tommy and Porscha

Is this a day 1 post Dyslexicon makes about both teammates?

she didn't vote Porscha

[robyn]

literally tells u her alignment

gonna need you to explain that better

it's scummy, I know why but you have to figure it out for yourself

How very towny of you.

if I tell you the reason you'll believe me to a lesser degree, try to find out yourself

[MacDougall]

Lucy I don't really have the capacity or energy for games. Be townie and help me solve or be wolfy and die basically.

[MacDougall]

literally tells u her alignment

gonna need you to explain that better

it's scummy, I know why but you have to figure it out for yourself

How very towny of you.

if I tell you the reason you'll believe me to a lesser degree, try to find out yourself

You said you hadn't slept for 2 days and Dyslexicon said you should sleep because they are worried about you. This says nothing about their alignment.

[robyn]

Lucy I don't really have the capacity or energy for games. Be townie and help me solve or be wolfy and die basically.

okay so you know how I only need a few messages to god read people, well that's one of those messages, there's a peculiar pause and the "now" is off

[MacDougall]

This game is going to be a very very lame loss if the town in it don't get much townier and solvier and force the wolf into obviousness. The apathy with which the game has fallen into is no bueno.

[robyn]

literally tells u her alignment

gonna need you to explain that better

it's scummy, I know why but you have to figure it out for yourself

How very towny of you.

if I tell you the reason you'll believe me to a lesser degree, try to find out yourself

You said you hadn't slept for 2 days and Dyslexicon said you should sleep because they are worried about you. This says nothing about their alignment.

problem is, that really doesn't feel like her, there's a lapse

[MacDougall]

Lucy I don't really have the capacity or energy for games. Be townie and help me solve or be wolfy and die basically.

okay so you know how I only need a few messages to god read people, well that's one of those messages, there's a peculiar pause and the "now" is off

No I didn't know that about you. I also don't see how you can reasonably expect me to have realised that without you saying it.

[robyn]

there's a lapse in the thinking, only takes one, I caught Illario with it, I caught you with it

[MacDougall]

I mostly prefer Tommy or Porscha as a chop

I don't really think Porscha calling Sean's read on Mac wrong is a great case against her. I think town easily say stuff like that, and I think she mentioned something about assuming Mac town anyway. I mean, if she's mafia, it probably is TMI, but I don't think it's impossible that she can say that as town. But her posts has been kind of weak and wishy-washy overall. I don't get any will to solve. The problem with Porscha is that if she's town, she is likely to become more obvious later on

Tommy is both PoE and just, he's here, but he's not contributing anything. And what he does post doesn't really give me a new town feel. It doesn't really give me anything tbh. The problem with Tommy is that if he flips and flips town, we're not really getting anywhere. But I think there's also a very decent chance he's just mafia here

In any case, would mostly like to hear more from both Tommy and Porscha

Is this a day 1 post Dyslexicon makes about both teammates?

[robyn]

Lucy I don't really have the capacity or energy for games. Be townie and help me solve or be wolfy and die basically.

okay so you know how I only need a few messages to god read people, well that's one of those messages, there's a peculiar pause and the "now" is off

No I didn't know that about you. I also don't see how you can reasonably expect me to have realised that without you saying it.

cause I did it to u

[MacDougall]

there's a lapse in the thinking, only takes one, I caught Illario with it, I caught you with it

gonna need to keep going with this explanation cuz i aint there yet

[MacDougall]

Lucy I don't really have the capacity or energy for games. Be townie and help me solve or be wolfy and die basically.

okay so you know how I only need a few messages to god read people, well that's one of those messages, there's a peculiar pause and the "now" is off

No I didn't know that about you. I also don't see how you can reasonably expect me to have realised that without you saying it.

cause I did it to u

I was unaware of that.

[robyn]

I mostly prefer Tommy or Porscha as a chop

I don't really think Porscha calling Sean's read on Mac wrong is a great case against her. I think town easily say stuff like that, and I think she mentioned something about assuming Mac town anyway. I mean, if she's mafia, it probably is TMI, but I don't think it's impossible that she can say that as town. But her posts has been kind of weak and wishy-washy overall. I don't get any will to solve. The problem with Porscha is that if she's town, she is likely to become more obvious later on

Tommy is both PoE and just, he's here, but he's not contributing anything. And what he does post doesn't really give me a new town feel. It doesn't really give me anything tbh. The problem with Tommy is that if he flips and flips town, we're not really getting anywhere. But I think there's also a very decent chance he's just mafia here

In any case, would mostly like to hear more from both Tommy and Porscha

Is this a day 1 post Dyslexicon makes about both teammates?

she never voted Porscha, ignore her reasoning, see the optics

[MacDougall]

Okay so right now I am looking for town to hang my hat on. Dyslexicon was in that list. You are essentially asking me to take my top town and chop them.

For me to do that is essentially forcing me to turn my auto upside down. If I do this, and chop my top town and am wrong, I am directly responsible for an ultra level throw.

[robyn]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6062127

[robyn]

Okay so right now I am looking for town to hang my hat on. Dyslexicon was in that list. You are essentially asking me to take my top town and chop them.

For me to do that is essentially forcing me to turn my auto upside down. If I do this, and chop my top town and am wrong, I am directly responsible for an ultra level throw.

I've done it before and I was right

[MacDougall]

I mostly prefer Tommy or Porscha as a chop

I don't really think Porscha calling Sean's read on Mac wrong is a great case against her. I think town easily say stuff like that, and I think she mentioned something about assuming Mac town anyway. I mean, if she's mafia, it probably is TMI, but I don't think it's impossible that she can say that as town. But her posts has been kind of weak and wishy-washy overall. I don't get any will to solve. The problem with Porscha is that if she's town, she is likely to become more obvious later on

Tommy is both PoE and just, he's here, but he's not contributing anything. And what he does post doesn't really give me a new town feel. It doesn't really give me anything tbh. The problem with Tommy is that if he flips and flips town, we're not really getting anywhere. But I think there's also a very decent chance he's just mafia here

In any case, would mostly like to hear more from both Tommy and Porscha

Is this a day 1 post Dyslexicon makes about both teammates?

she never voted Porscha, ignore her reasoning, see the optics

Sure but contributing to the weakening thread positioning of already weak teammates is quite a misplay for wolf Dyslexicon. They are the kind of wolf who if they have something like the bolded points to use to shield their teammates, they usually would simply just say that and actively push against their chop. Dyslexicon is not someone who tends to play early game to go deep and win.

[robyn]

I did it to you in the mash

[MacDougall]

Okay so right now I am looking for town to hang my hat on. Dyslexicon was in that list. You are essentially asking me to take my top town and chop them.

For me to do that is essentially forcing me to turn my auto upside down. If I do this, and chop my top town and am wrong, I am directly responsible for an ultra level throw.

I've done it before and I was right

Can I see a wolf game of yours that you ran deep please.

[MacDougall]

I did it to you in the mash

Yeah you can stop belabouring this now, I understand that you make reads like this. I understand that you believe in them. I now need to determine whether this is in your scumrange.

[robyn]

I mostly prefer Tommy or Porscha as a chop

I don't really think Porscha calling Sean's read on Mac wrong is a great case against her. I think town easily say stuff like that, and I think she mentioned something about assuming Mac town anyway. I mean, if she's mafia, it probably is TMI, but I don't think it's impossible that she can say that as town. But her posts has been kind of weak and wishy-washy overall. I don't get any will to solve. The problem with Porscha is that if she's town, she is likely to become more obvious later on

Tommy is both PoE and just, he's here, but he's not contributing anything. And what he does post doesn't really give me a new town feel. It doesn't really give me anything tbh. The problem with Tommy is that if he flips and flips town, we're not really getting anywhere. But I think there's also a very decent chance he's just mafia here

In any case, would mostly like to hear more from both Tommy and Porscha

Is this a day 1 post Dyslexicon makes about both teammates?

she never voted Porscha, ignore her reasoning, see the optics

Sure but contributing to the weakening thread positioning of already weak teammates is quite a misplay for wolf Dyslexicon. They are the kind of wolf who if they have something like the bolded points to use to shield their teammates, they usually would simply just say that and actively push against their chop. Dyslexicon is not someone who tends to play early game to go deep and win.

Porscha and Tommy died too early, she was forced into the position and didn't choose it, there was a pause in the thought process of a peculiar message that had the soul purpose of snowing me

[MacDougall]

If you are mafia your day today has been very impressive. I need to figure out whether you have this type of play in you.

[MacDougall]

I mostly prefer Tommy or Porscha as a chop

I don't really think Porscha calling Sean's read on Mac wrong is a great case against her. I think town easily say stuff like that, and I think she mentioned something about assuming Mac town anyway. I mean, if she's mafia, it probably is TMI, but I don't think it's impossible that she can say that as town. But her posts has been kind of weak and wishy-washy overall. I don't get any will to solve. The problem with Porscha is that if she's town, she is likely to become more obvious later on

Tommy is both PoE and just, he's here, but he's not contributing anything. And what he does post doesn't really give me a new town feel. It doesn't really give me anything tbh. The problem with Tommy is that if he flips and flips town, we're not really getting anywhere. But I think there's also a very decent chance he's just mafia here

In any case, would mostly like to hear more from both Tommy and Porscha

Is this a day 1 post Dyslexicon makes about both teammates?

she never voted Porscha, ignore her reasoning, see the optics

Sure but contributing to the weakening thread positioning of already weak teammates is quite a misplay for wolf Dyslexicon. They are the kind of wolf who if they have something like the bolded points to use to shield their teammates, they usually would simply just say that and actively push against their chop. Dyslexicon is not someone who tends to play early game to go deep and win.

Porscha and Tommy died too early, she was forced into the position and didn't choose it, there was a pause in the thought process of a peculiar message that had the soul purpose of snowing me

This isn't correct if you look at when that post was made. It was early on day 1. Porscha hadn't even really been pushed that much and Tommy was really just a meh push and was being quite strongly shielded at that point by you and Achro.

[robyn]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/36901

wolf

[robyn]

I mostly prefer Tommy or Porscha as a chop

I don't really think Porscha calling Sean's read on Mac wrong is a great case against her. I think town easily say stuff like that, and I think she mentioned something about assuming Mac town anyway. I mean, if she's mafia, it probably is TMI, but I don't think it's impossible that she can say that as town. But her posts has been kind of weak and wishy-washy overall. I don't get any will to solve. The problem with Porscha is that if she's town, she is likely to become more obvious later on

Tommy is both PoE and just, he's here, but he's not contributing anything. And what he does post doesn't really give me a new town feel. It doesn't really give me anything tbh. The problem with Tommy is that if he flips and flips town, we're not really getting anywhere. But I think there's also a very decent chance he's just mafia here

In any case, would mostly like to hear more from both Tommy and Porscha

Is this a day 1 post Dyslexicon makes about both teammates?

she never voted Porscha, ignore her reasoning, see the optics

Sure but contributing to the weakening thread positioning of already weak teammates is quite a misplay for wolf Dyslexicon. They are the kind of wolf who if they have something like the bolded points to use to shield their teammates, they usually would simply just say that and actively push against their chop. Dyslexicon is not someone who tends to play early game to go deep and win.

Porscha and Tommy died too early, she was forced into the position and didn't choose it, there was a pause in the thought process of a peculiar message that had the soul purpose of snowing me

This isn't correct if you look at when that post was made. It was early on day 1. Porscha hadn't even really been pushed that much and Tommy was really just a meh push and was being quite strongly shielded at that point by you and Achro.

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[robyn]

then it's a tmi

[robyn]

matters not to me

[robyn]

my read takes one message

[robyn]

me and nanook and seanzie are all too ezzzzz

[MacDougall]

Axes filter is certainly cryptic. Don't really get the movie references and don't even think they made that many different movies of Pirates OTC. But maybe I'll get it another time.
He's consistent in sheeping MacDougall, explains some Mac-Sean history.
Tone overall reads good to me.

I think I'd townlean this at least for D1 because he semi-freely gave information.
I might join him on that and go matt here.

So, just so I understand correctly.

You think it is a better chance of a hit to vote the first time FM player who is, by account of someone who knows them, outside of both their normal town AND wolf metas and has openly displayed issues with the FM format day one versus someone who by all accounts went from having a null read on Mac to having a big town read on them without showing any of their work at all.

Why do you think Tommy has even above a random chance of being a wolf atm?

Do you think Tommy is exact rand here?

Also, early game you mentioned how you'd just chop me if I had low WIM. Does this not apply to Tommy, who is arguably the one giving the least this game?

Do I need to explain the difference between a first time FM player and yourself?

Standards, wolf ranges, etc etc.

In this context, yeah I think you do

Oh, sure.

So you are a well established player who if I put the screws to you in some form or fashion will have a relatively known range of reactions for everyone to judge you on and to attempt to divine your alignment. If you are slacking off and suddenly under a microscope that's probably going to yield information that can be read by people.

Tommy, on the other hand, is an unknown quantity and to my eye hasn't really done anything noteworthy one way or another. This is not ideal, however with their stated dislike of FM so far as well as their noted inexperience it doesn't make them very formidable wolves down the line in the 'people are right he is wolf' even if I think it is for dubious reasons. likewise, because he is inexperienced, there is a large chance he becomes polarized when he does get his teeth into the game and we can proceed more appropriately.

Trying to say Tommy is the best lynch today is like ordering your steak well done. Technically it is a thing you can do, but why?

So you wanting to put the microscope on me, so to say, would be a way to gain reactions and info out of me? Is that correct? In which case, don't count on it. Slacking is something I do from time to time, depending on time. I didn't think I would have the time to read D1 this game, but I took the time now.

Do you also not think that putting the microscope on Tommy can yield information? Also, I'm not sure why you necessarily expect him to become more clear later on, as he is for everyone but Lucy and unknown entity. And thus far he hasn't really shown any interest in contributing a whole lot or FM at all, as you allude to. Why do you expect this to change later on? I hope it does, but what if it doesn't.

Funny thing is that giving more time is something I could argue for Porscha, exactly because I do know her at least a little bit, and I've been able to find her as town in the few games I've played with her to my memory.

So I guess I just see this differently than you do.

I also don't eat meat.

In the bolded, Dyslexicon is defending themselves from Achro's interrogation by dragging him for not treating Tommy the same. I understand you'll probably confirmation bias that as Dyslexicon showing TMI on Tommy as mafia but it's so uncharitable and unnecessary for Dyslexicon to treat Tommy his teammate like that on day 1 and Dyslexicon's modus operandi on day 1 with Tommy and Porscha as teammates surely is not to just hang them out to dry? That's terrible play.

[MacDougall]

their*

[robyn]

I don't expect you to trust me now, that's unreasonable