Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [END]

[MacDougall]

@Porscha what you thinking now?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: sabi] aubergine

Falcon was a good lad and helped me out. Find it hard to believe sabi actually sheeped mac who does that tbh.

I take it you simply mean this post?

Bingo

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca why am in your POE exactly?

You're typically much better at reading me, the NKs make sense from you, and pushing my lynch for a hammer this RD? I'm an easy mislynch, as you know

How do the NKs make sense from me? Both of them were townreading me. NAA specifically said he was gonna take me to f3. I was Alison's top town.

Also no I haven't, I've been blocking the hammer.

I think I recall a post of yours earlier about just yeeting me this RD and getting it over with, but perhaps I'm mistaken.


Maf kill town who TR them all the time, and Alison given enough time certainly is a threat to Maf Mac.



Why is my sus of your slot so implausible?

I didn't say it was implausible. I just wanted you to articulate why so I could check that you had solid reasoning.

I don't have a mountain of scummy evidence, we don't have near enough info. Now that uouve heard my reasons?

[Porscha]

maybe not falcon

[Porscha]

like leaning away

[MacDougall]

The question for me becomes... why does Sabi even bother changing her vote from Wilgy to Seanzie at all? Seanzie had Sabi as town at least as per that last readslist I shared. Why did Sabi decide to bury Lucy and Seanzie... they were both supporters of Sabi (compared to who got left on the table).

Was it literally just opportunism to remove two good players, which would point at it being a coordinated effort with Achro?

Or was it simply to save Wilgy?

[MacDougall]

Wilgy doesn't seem to have any agenda throughout any of this. He has the feel of a bystander lol.

[MacDougall]

I think I wanna go achro here.

[MacDougall]

@falcon45ca why am in your POE exactly?

You're typically much better at reading me, the NKs make sense from you, and pushing my lynch for a hammer this RD? I'm an easy mislynch, as you know

How do the NKs make sense from me? Both of them were townreading me. NAA specifically said he was gonna take me to f3. I was Alison's top town.

Also no I haven't, I've been blocking the hammer.

I think I recall a post of yours earlier about just yeeting me this RD and getting it over with, but perhaps I'm mistaken.


Maf kill town who TR them all the time, and Alison given enough time certainly is a threat to Maf Mac.



Why is my sus of your slot so implausible?

I didn't say it was implausible. I just wanted you to articulate why so I could check that you had solid reasoning.

I don't have a mountain of scummy evidence, we don't have near enough info. Now that uouve heard my reasons?

That you have some is a positive. I think the most positive thing in your favour though is that it appeared as though both Sabi and Achromatic were manipulating you at the end of day 1 to vote for Lucy and Seanzie.

[Achromatic]

Man at least wait to murder me in final 3 if it isn't falcon so I can put on my thinking cap and still be hammered anyway.

But also I don't find seanzie to be a good player so that's why I as town isoed him and was like good enough and voted him. I was using sabi for my lucy agenda but they were in fact using me.

[Achromatic]

My being manipulative as town tendency is finally coming around to bite me x(

[MacDougall]

I think I'm at like

60% Achro
20% Wilgy
18% Falcon
2% Porscha

[Achromatic]

But yeah I had a lucy ping and I was like fuck it I am going for it.

Also tbh I would have never condoned what sabi did as their team mate. That was really not cool.

[MacDougall]

But yeah I had a lucy ping and I was like fuck it I am going for it.

Also tbh I would have never condoned what sabi did as their team mate. That was really not cool.

Like you could have stopped her or even seen it coming lol.

[MacDougall]

*them

[Achromatic]

But yeah I had a lucy ping and I was like fuck it I am going for it.

Also tbh I would have never condoned what sabi did as their team mate. That was really not cool.

Like you could have stopped her or even seen it coming lol.

And yet I could perform synchronized ice skating eod1 for the whole topic to see in such an obviously partnered way. Yet, day 2, when I barely have time to open my mouth to question their eod1 with me they just do whatever that was, they decide to self vote because they hate me so much or something.

Tbh wolf achro for sure controls sabi there. I helped the worst scum player on fol end game last month. I am a control freak as scum x(

[MacDougall]

A control freak as scum might make sabi enjoy playing mafia less tbh.

[Achromatic]

But yeah before I was rudely interrupted say 2 I voted sabi because they always fuss with you so them suddenly going Mac is awesome was a red flag after two town deaths. Never really got past that. I brought up falcon because they were there too and I wanted to start at eod for discussion since that was the most lucid I was all say.

[Achromatic]

A control freak as scum might make sabi enjoy playing mafia less tbh.

Maybe. They seem to like me most of the time though I hope we would get along well as buddies.

[MacDougall]

But yeah before I was rudely interrupted say 2 I voted sabi because they always fuss with you so them suddenly going Mac is awesome was a red flag after two town deaths. Never really got past that. I brought up falcon because they were there too and I wanted to start at eod for discussion since that was the most lucid I was all say.

I think Sabi didn't want to play anymore and asked to be bussed by you.

[Achromatic]

But yeah before I was rudely interrupted say 2 I voted sabi because they always fuss with you so them suddenly going Mac is awesome was a red flag after two town deaths. Never really got past that. I brought up falcon because they were there too and I wanted to start at eod for discussion since that was the most lucid I was all say.

I think Sabi didn't want to play anymore and asked to be bussed by you.

I would 100% not go along with a self vote scheme that is game throwing to me. 100% never. Sir.

[Achromatic]

Vote me if you like but please don't accuse me of game throwing. Ty

[MacDougall]

I was also wrong on Alison.

So that means Mac is probably a wolf.

Mac is awesome?

[Achromatic]

What's your case on Mac. I like Mac today.

What do you like about him?

Him saying that Sean would exactly open wolf like that

[Achromatic]

Basically I read over eod1 and I was like 'when does sabi ever listen to Mac in game lol'

I remember last game when they kept hurting your feelings and I was like 'let's poke there'

And then day ended.

[MacDougall]

Vote me if you like but please don't accuse me of game throwing. Ty

Sabi opened day 2 getting voted by Porscha. Pushed by me. Pushed by Axe. All before you showed up. They fumbled enough for it to be easy for me to see them just asking you to bus them upon arrival, which frankly when you did I got the impression that you were. And then self hammering to stop spewing more townies is not a misplay or a throw. I'm not accusing you of game throwing. Make better defenses than that.

It actually quite looks like they were waiting for you to show up to vote them to self hammer.

[Achromatic]

Vote me if you like but please don't accuse me of game throwing. Ty

Sabi opened day 2 getting voted by Porscha. Pushed by me. Pushed by Axe. All before you showed up. They fumbled enough for it to be easy for me to see them just asking you to bus them upon arrival, which frankly when you did I got the impression that you were. And then self hammering to stop spewing more townies is not a misplay or a throw. I'm not accusing you of game throwing. Make better defenses than that.

It actually quite looks like they were waiting for you to show up to vote them to self hammer.

Then vote me. It's chill. I would never condone a self hammer strategy it is Bush league but you don't know me that well. It's chill.

I can't defend against fanfiction because you don't know better. I know that didn't happen but that's not really the point.

[MacDougall]

Vote me if you like but please don't accuse me of game throwing. Ty

Sabi opened day 2 getting voted by Porscha. Pushed by me. Pushed by Axe. All before you showed up. They fumbled enough for it to be easy for me to see them just asking you to bus them upon arrival, which frankly when you did I got the impression that you were. And then self hammering to stop spewing more townies is not a misplay or a throw. I'm not accusing you of game throwing. Make better defenses than that.

It actually quite looks like they were waiting for you to show up to vote them to self hammer.

Then vote me. It's chill. I would never condone a self hammer strategy it is Bush league but you don't know me that well. It's chill.

I can't defend against fanfiction because you don't know better. I know that didn't happen but that's not really the point.

Reducing arguments and constant strawmanning doesn't do much for me Achro. I'm a reasonable person, and I made a lot more solvent arguments to find you as mafia than you are giving me credit for by reducing it down to fanfiction. So if you are town and you do die, it's on you for not trying harder to help me see reason.

[MacDougall]

@DrWilgy can you plz catch up.

[Porscha]

perhaps that doesn't happen, but what if sabi just gives up on the game and without your condoning, as her wolf partner, goes ahead with the hammer

[Achromatic]

If it isn't falcon I would be turboed in f3 anyway and thankfully my mislynch aversion has died this past couple of weeks now so it's all good.

Well argued and reasoned. I had a really nsf day 1 and followed a bad ping. When good players make mistakes they get punished right? Makes sense. Sorry I had such a slow start but hopefully it's just falcon lol

[Achromatic]

perhaps that doesn't happen, but what if sabi just gives up on the game and without your condoning, as her wolf partner, goes ahead with the hammer

I like to think I would be able to calm them down especially since I was actively around but I don't know them well enough to know if I could. I just don't even want it speculated that I would game throw it makes me sad.

[MacDougall]

@Porscha can you order your reads please?

[MacDougall]

perhaps that doesn't happen, but what if sabi just gives up on the game and without your condoning, as her wolf partner, goes ahead with the hammer

I like to think I would be able to calm them down especially since I was actively around but I don't know them well enough to know if I could. I just don't even want it speculated that I would game throw it makes me sad.

Achro, a wolf self voting in those circumstances isn't game throwing. It is done to avoid antispew. Sabi was dead to rights by the time they made the decision to self hammer.

[Achromatic]

Typically my biggest goal as a wolf is to have fun. I get the sense that sabi doesn't like being suspected. This is my own fanfiction now but I would probably try to avoid putting pressure on them and if we lose we lose and it was all in good fun. Like I said though this is just me waxing poetic about philosophy.

[Achromatic]

perhaps that doesn't happen, but what if sabi just gives up on the game and without your condoning, as her wolf partner, goes ahead with the hammer

I like to think I would be able to calm them down especially since I was actively around but I don't know them well enough to know if I could. I just don't even want it speculated that I would game throw it makes me sad.

Achro, a wolf self voting in those circumstances isn't game throwing. It is done to avoid antispew. Sabi was dead to rights by the time they made the decision to self hammer.

I must be a dumbass then because after they did that I thought I made a mistake lol

[MacDougall]

Typically my biggest goal as a wolf is to have fun. I get the sense that sabi doesn't like being suspected. This is my own fanfiction now but I would probably try to avoid putting pressure on them and if we lose we lose and it was all in good fun. Like I said though this is just me waxing poetic about philosophy.

"Sabi seems to be trying their best".

You mean like that?

[MacDougall]

perhaps that doesn't happen, but what if sabi just gives up on the game and without your condoning, as her wolf partner, goes ahead with the hammer

I like to think I would be able to calm them down especially since I was actively around but I don't know them well enough to know if I could. I just don't even want it speculated that I would game throw it makes me sad.

Achro, a wolf self voting in those circumstances isn't game throwing. It is done to avoid antispew. Sabi was dead to rights by the time they made the decision to self hammer.

I must be a dumbass then because after they did that I thought I made a mistake lol

Because everyone presumed Sabi was town and had self hammered out of ate when the reality is Sabi was mafia and self hammered to give their partner a better chance to win the game due to the fact that Sabi's spew wasn't going too well.

[Achromatic]

Typically my biggest goal as a wolf is to have fun. I get the sense that sabi doesn't like being suspected. This is my own fanfiction now but I would probably try to avoid putting pressure on them and if we lose we lose and it was all in good fun. Like I said though this is just me waxing poetic about philosophy.

"Sabi seems to be trying their best".

You mean like that?

While my vote was on them most of the day to try to prod lucy

You and your imaginary gotchas x) it's endearing

[MacDougall]

I'm still not hammering you or recommending this day end early. We have ample time with which to work. You have time to find the wolf if you are not it.

[Achromatic]

perhaps that doesn't happen, but what if sabi just gives up on the game and without your condoning, as her wolf partner, goes ahead with the hammer

I like to think I would be able to calm them down especially since I was actively around but I don't know them well enough to know if I could. I just don't even want it speculated that I would game throw it makes me sad.

Achro, a wolf self voting in those circumstances isn't game throwing. It is done to avoid antispew. Sabi was dead to rights by the time they made the decision to self hammer.

I must be a dumbass then because after they did that I thought I made a mistake lol

Because everyone presumed Sabi was town and had self hammered out of ate when the reality is Sabi was mafia and self hammered to give their partner a better chance to win the game due to the fact that Sabi's spew wasn't going too well.

Well yeah that's why wilgy is obv town. My meager oops is nothing in comparison to his flaming wall of rage lol x)

[MacDougall]

Typically my biggest goal as a wolf is to have fun. I get the sense that sabi doesn't like being suspected. This is my own fanfiction now but I would probably try to avoid putting pressure on them and if we lose we lose and it was all in good fun. Like I said though this is just me waxing poetic about philosophy.

"Sabi seems to be trying their best".

You mean like that?

While my vote was on them most of the day to try to prod lucy

You and your imaginary gotchas x) it's endearing

Your vote was on them but you were pressuring someone else not Sabi. And when the whips were cracking your vote was alongside Sabi's on two town.

[Achromatic]

I'm still not hammering you or recommending this day end early. We have ample time with which to work. You have time to find the wolf if you are not it.

Oh hype. I will get to my computer tomorrow and iso everyone.

[MacDougall]

perhaps that doesn't happen, but what if sabi just gives up on the game and without your condoning, as her wolf partner, goes ahead with the hammer

I like to think I would be able to calm them down especially since I was actively around but I don't know them well enough to know if I could. I just don't even want it speculated that I would game throw it makes me sad.

Achro, a wolf self voting in those circumstances isn't game throwing. It is done to avoid antispew. Sabi was dead to rights by the time they made the decision to self hammer.

I must be a dumbass then because after they did that I thought I made a mistake lol

Because everyone presumed Sabi was town and had self hammered out of ate when the reality is Sabi was mafia and self hammered to give their partner a better chance to win the game due to the fact that Sabi's spew wasn't going too well.

Well yeah that's why wilgy is obv town. My meager oops is nothing in comparison to his flaming wall of rage lol x)

My only problem with that perspective is that having had years of experience with Wilgy, he is actually underestimated vastly by the current members of this community and taking advantage of that moment to get some fake ate anti spew in is entirely within his mafia range. It's wifom and angleshooting anyway so I'd rather read him on play. Which... frankly is also leading me to townread him.

[Achromatic]

Typically my biggest goal as a wolf is to have fun. I get the sense that sabi doesn't like being suspected. This is my own fanfiction now but I would probably try to avoid putting pressure on them and if we lose we lose and it was all in good fun. Like I said though this is just me waxing poetic about philosophy.

"Sabi seems to be trying their best".

You mean like that?

While my vote was on them most of the day to try to prod lucy

You and your imaginary gotchas x) it's endearing

Your vote was on them but you were pressuring someone else not Sabi. And when the whips were cracking your vote was alongside Sabi's on two town.

This is true and unfortunately before sabi could do anything to help me out they did a thing

Days ending early around here sure do bite me in the ass lol x)

[MacDougall]

I think that you and Falcon have both arrived at the spiderman doppleganger gif outcome probably indicates that it is one of you though.

[Achromatic]

I think that you and Falcon have both arrived at the spiderman doppleganger gif outcome probably indicates that it is one of you though.

Unless someone is performing a magic trick yeah seems pretty obv atm

[MacDougall]

Persistently just being like "yeah, heh I did do that wolfy thing" rather than explaining it from the town mindset is not really doing you much good bro lol. If this is town you's way of trying to come across reasonable, I'd rather you not haha.

[Achromatic]

Simple things

1. Don't think mac and sabi who did so well day 1 need to pull that bullshit day 2. Mac just solos thread and shields sabi well.

[MacDougall]

@Achromatic what is your theory as to why Sabi so heavily contributed to getting the votes off of Wilgy and onto Lucy/Seanzie.