Mafia Misplay Mafia

[Sabiplz]

And I'm gonna die if I don't figure it out.

Just stick with me.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nook (or Ender) can you gather some of the post that look super scummy from hk in the first 24 hours of the game?
Probably going to do some stuff now, going to be back later so you have time/?

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 712&t=2417

I laughed.

Tyty

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Not sure he could've made that request of two people less likely to indulge it lol

[hollowkatt]

He was incredibly scummy in the first 24 hours of the game and also volume tell and also blade agrees and also his early approach was both Generically Bad and HK Bad

how many posts do you think I have @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

[EnderWiggin]

OK no. One listens to me

I listened and then you tried to tell me to vote specifically one way and I decided to stop listening.

[EnderWiggin]

Volume tell doesn't work on HK anymore Nook btw.

[EnderWiggin]

Oh also, will probably not be around for EOD. Depends on how quickly the hike in the morning goes.

[Sabiplz]

OK no. One listens to me

I listened and then you tried to tell me to vote specifically one way and I decided to stop listening.

Fine you decide but I'm not voting HK

[EnderWiggin]

OK no. One listens to me

I listened and then you tried to tell me to vote specifically one way and I decided to stop listening.

Fine you decide but I'm not voting HK

That's okay. I will not require you to vote any way.

Let's talk about the reads we do agree on, what was your townset outside HK again?

[Sabiplz]

OK no. One listens to me

I listened and then you tried to tell me to vote specifically one way and I decided to stop listening.

Fine you decide but I'm not voting HK

That's okay. I will not require you to vote any way.

Let's talk about the reads we do agree on, what was your townset outside HK again?

Wilgz, Porscha, neon, townlean (you, rising, and esooa).

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

He was incredibly scummy in the first 24 hours of the game and also volume tell and also blade agrees and also his early approach was both Generically Bad and HK Bad

how many posts do you think I have @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

110ish at the time iirc, in a 2,000 post thread

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Volume tell doesn't work on HK anymore Nook btw.

I mean, it isn't a pure volume tell read, its just a contributing factor

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

HK's thing isn't pure volume anyways, it's volume relative to the rest of the thread

Which again isn't even the primary reason to SR him, the point of bringing it up is to illustrate that he often struggles to make posts (and good posts) as mafia, and he seems to he having the issue in this game, so he should be yeeted into the sun

[hollowkatt]

it can't be as easy as ender nanook santy can it?
nah, impossible

[hollowkatt]

I take it back it absolutely can be

[Achromatic]

Yes hk all the scum fear you specifically.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Now he's OMGUSing me despite knowing that what I'm saying wrt his trouble posting is accurate, and we've talked about it before

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

That might actually be marginally townie but im confirmation biased now

[Achromatic]

Hk's posts haven't been that bad tbh. Probably within his wolf range but not precisely concerning.

Lets see what I missed and if ender did cool stuff.

[Achromatic]

I am about to play some trials of mana. Fantastic game tbh.

Anyway I stand by all of my town reads so far although some have varied in strength.

Original > Remake

True tbh

[hollowkatt]

Yes hk all the scum fear you specifically.

not fear, opportunity.
nanook isn't wrong that I have a volume tell as wolf. Often I get wolf read early (as wolf) and then struggle to continue to post for fear that whatever it is I'm about to write is only going to look worse for me than what I've already done. You can see examples of that in my last few wolf games on MU.

But here he's trying to expand what is basically a strict volume tell where my posting is depressed in general to a volume tell that is relative to the thread which has never really historically been the situation, it's always been a strict "under x posts likely wolf, over x posts likely town", it's never been relative.

His argument that my posting is lackluster, or I'm making not only classically bad posts but classically HK wolf posts also falls flat, little of what I've written in this thread is fluffy bullshit.

So no, I don't think nanook, as a wolf, would fear me so much as nanook, as a wolf, would recognize I can do good work for town clearing other people and if he can find a push that would get me over I firmly believe he'd take that opportunity.

I think the same thing could and would apply to ender as well. He's seen my town game several times, and seen my wolf game at least a couple, and the way he limped into a HK wolf read is really off his traditional town game and while I recognize IRL happens and keeps people away from the game as all alignments the way Ender is burst posting without doing anything outside of catch-up and commentary I struggle to see how that's town indicative.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

We literally talked in g3 scum chat about how your volume tell is relative lol

[Achromatic]

I am attempting to sow for peace with Mac whose reads I do respect if he is town so I am trying to find common ground to see where that leads.

I believe any ender feels goods relies on a pre flip of santy wolf which atm I disagree with.

So I am not going to back off my plan because someone randomly says so.

Or maybe some people know how to read me =P

Weren't you the person who made a point to say infinite scum range in asmr lol.

'Could scum ender do this'

'YES'

Also in specific this post was about sabi trying to veto your lynch because you were voting santy.

[Achromatic]

Hk I don't even think you are a great target of opportunity tbh.

But will tell you if I think you should omgus ender when I am done catching up

No on nook tho

[Sabiplz]

I'm still vetoing the ender lim

[Achromatic]

Let me check how much I care about your stances when you vant figure out my slignmrnt.

Oh 0 it is.

[Achromatic]

Let me check how much I care about your stances when you cant figure out my slignmrnt.

Oh 0 it is.

Ebwop

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[Achromatic]

There are roughly a thousand posts that I mostly haven't read (I've skimmed some) and likely won't get to most of before eod so I'm probably gonna end up sheeping a tr closer to eod if neon doesn't take off, but yeah, neon remains my ideal kill, hk probably second choice, ris and santy and achro also fine places to go

Well either reading is good or reading is bad considering nook is in opposite land of me

[Sabiplz]

Let me check how much I care about your stances when you vant figure out my slignmrnt.

Oh 0 it is.

Being antagonistic.

K

[Achromatic]

Well I don't appreciate your bossy attitude tbh. Maybe discuss your read instead of trying to be bossy and you wouldn't get push back. You don't have veto power.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm pretty sure I talked about it in mech warriors too, when you broke through it but were still caught by post quality

[Sabiplz]

Well I don't appreciate your bossy attitude tbh. Maybe discuss your read instead of trying to be bossy and you wouldn't get push back. You don't have veto power.

My bossy attitude? Have you looked in the mirror lately?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

"You're misreading me so the rest of your reads are wrong too" is kinda meh

Sabi isn't basing all their reads on you being mafia afaik

[EnderWiggin]

OK no. One listens to me

I listened and then you tried to tell me to vote specifically one way and I decided to stop listening.

Fine you decide but I'm not voting HK

That's okay. I will not require you to vote any way.

Let's talk about the reads we do agree on, what was your townset outside HK again?

Wilgz, Porscha, neon, townlean (you, rising, and esooa).

Wilg I've been avoiding reading because biased reads will come from me. But Sure, I can sponge it.

Porscha/Rising/Esooa are all townareads of mine so thumbs up.

Neon is good at uwu posting D1 so I'll reread tomorrow before making a stance there.

[Sabiplz]

"You're misreading me so the rest of your reads are wrong too" is kinda meh

Sabi isn't basing all their reads on you being mafia afaik

You're right.

Ender has been towny since I misread him.

[Achromatic]

"You're misreading me so the rest of your reads are wrong too" is kinda meh

Sabi isn't basing all their reads on you being mafia afaik

Actually I am more than willing to listen to discussion from sabi but I am not willing to be bossed around by sabi.

Major difference tbh

[EnderWiggin]

I am attempting to sow for peace with Mac whose reads I do respect if he is town so I am trying to find common ground to see where that leads.

I believe any ender feels goods relies on a pre flip of santy wolf which atm I disagree with.

So I am not going to back off my plan because someone randomly says so.

Or maybe some people know how to read me =P

Weren't you the person who made a point to say infinite scum range in asmr lol.

'Could scum ender do this'

'YES'

Also in specific this post was about sabi trying to veto your lynch because you were voting santy.

See the tongue smiley.

See the fact that I'm talking about someone who literally started by scumreading me.

That post was not serious lmao.

[Sabiplz]

People who can't read ender have skill issues. I was right on ender in asmr and I'm right again. @Achromatic

[EnderWiggin]

Let me check how much I care about your stances when you vant figure out my slignmrnt.

Oh 0 it is.

Lemme check how much I care about your reads compared to mine?

Oh. 0 it is.

[Achromatic]

Let me check how much I care about your stances when you vant figure out my slignmrnt.

Oh 0 it is.

Lemme check how much I care about your reads compared to mine?

Oh. 0 it is.

Worked out well in asmr huh

[Sabiplz]

Ender God reader status is back bb

[Sabiplz]

Let me check how much I care about your stances when you vant figure out my slignmrnt.

Oh 0 it is.

Lemme check how much I care about your reads compared to mine?

Oh. 0 it is.

Worked out well in asmr huh

You tunneled ender and made him cw to a wolf.....

[EnderWiggin]

(I am memeing in the last post, but just turning around how rude that particular post was.)

[Achromatic]

Noted on the non serious nature of the post though.

[Sabiplz]

Achro can't read ender which he should just admit at this point.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

"You're misreading me so the rest of your reads are wrong too" is kinda meh

Sabi isn't basing all their reads on you being mafia afaik

Actually I am more than willing to listen to discussion from sabi but I am not willing to be bossed around by sabi.

Major difference tbh

Sure, that's fair enough, also not really relevant to what I said or this post, which isn't really about bossiness

Let me check how much I care about your stances when you vant figure out my slignmrnt.

Oh 0 it is.

[EnderWiggin]

Let me check how much I care about your stances when you vant figure out my slignmrnt.

Oh 0 it is.

Lemme check how much I care about your reads compared to mine?

Oh. 0 it is.

Worked out well in asmr huh

If we'd listened to my reads list in SF3 we wouldn't have lost.

My final will literally had wolf at POE2 and you guys chopped 2 people in my town list.

See, I can cherrypick the game I did well and you did bad reads in too.

I will straight up tell you that your process is one of the upper end of processes I've seen. But the ego to ignore other people's reads and not integrate and make comments like that where someone says your wrong and you immediately bring up why you shouldn't listen to them is exactly the problem I've had with you in the past.

[EnderWiggin]

Achro can't read ender which he should just admit at this point.

In fairness I believe there are very few people who can.

Jury is still out on you until you catch me hard as wolf. =P

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

None of this matters because hk is frozen and crying in scum chat