Are you someone on MU who played the spec mountainous game tbh? Whats your username there if so?
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i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
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huh alright
i am currently still at work. My third years gonna have a test so I am more in catch up mode tbh
Have you found anything that has pinged you at either direction tbh?
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no tbh, i need some controversy, lily can stay in perpetual poe for that opening, i didn’t say it at the time but quite a few people had the same thought which will be interesting depending on flip, the problem is lily is very towny even as scum so i’m pessimistic on the validity of the readBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:03 amhuh alright
i am currently still at work. My third years gonna have a test so I am more in catch up mode tbh
Have you found anything that has pinged you at either direction tbh?
i think i wanna mason with you for this game boq, are you down?
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personally i find "vibing with the thread and going with the flow" a position where i misclear wolves tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:44 pmi kind of agree with you - i think their posts have felt more tonally comfortable and they have been playing reactively (ie: responding almost exclusively to what other people are saying) instead of actively trying to establish a presence in the thread (Ie: lily abruptly making a meme post about who all of the mafia are)arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:39 pm Hmmm, it's funny that you say that SPF, because I was about to my post an observation/read I had, and I kind of want your input on this and thoughts.
I was actually going to slight townread Neon rn because I felt like when they entered the thread, they felt more like they were "vibing" with the thread and going with the flow. Like asking you about the League question and responding to Lily's wolf gc comment. So I had some good vibes from Neon after their initial "multi-tabbing" posts and seemed ok.
So I was wondering if you agree with my sentiment that Neon seems to be more natural rather than "attempting to fit in"?
i feel like i'm better at identifying when somebody is fitting in with the vibe "incorrectly" and i have a history of misclearing ppl for tone reasons, so i dont really townread neon for it but i get it
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that makes sense tbh. I had bad feels about lily too, and neon, and I town read you for an early post, so sure, lets mason tbhlucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:06 amno tbh, i need some controversy, lily can stay in perpetual poe for that opening, i didn’t say it at the time but quite a few people had the same thought which will be interesting depending on flip, the problem is lily is very towny even as scum so i’m pessimistic on the validity of the readBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:03 amhuh alright
i am currently still at work. My third years gonna have a test so I am more in catch up mode tbh
Have you found anything that has pinged you at either direction tbh?
i think i wanna mason with you for this game boq, are you down?
i will have more to say when i have caught up tho tbh
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arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:04 pm Wait @falcon45ca, you do realize I voted on Mac as a meme right? He said he was a 49ers fan and I am a Seahawks fan. Seahawks and 49ers don't like each other.
Also, I voted on you cause your intro post pinged me and it didn't seem genuine to me.

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:09 pmYou don't like Mac cuz he's a 49ers fan?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:04 pm Wait @falcon45ca, you do realize I voted on Mac as a meme right? He said he was a 49ers fan and I am a Seahawks fan. Seahawks and 49ers don't like each other.
Also, I voted on you cause your intro post pinged me and it didn't seem genuine to me.
I thought it would've been cuz he's Australian.
They're all descendent from criminals who think their eco system is oh so precious and must be protected. Southern Hemisphere Snobbery
And my intro post was genuinely my first post of the game

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I agree with this take tbhAlison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:17 pmI don't feel like Neon's vibing at all. Their first two posts were pre-emptive excuses for bad posting, which is why I originally scumread them. Since then they have posted a bunch of irrelevant fluff and claimed to be trying to speedrun to postcap by spamming. This is a very shallow and low-effort way to engage with the thread, and it is very easy for a wolf struggling to fit in to make posts like that.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:39 pm Hmmm, it's funny that you say that SPF, because I was about to my post an observation/read I had, and I kind of want your input on this and thoughts.
I was actually going to slight townread Neon rn because I felt like when they entered the thread, they felt more like they were "vibing" with the thread and going with the flow. Like asking you about the League question and responding to Lily's wolf gc comment. So I had some good vibes from Neon after their initial "multi-tabbing" posts and seemed ok.
So I was wondering if you agree with my sentiment that Neon seems to be more natural rather than "attempting to fit in"?
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macboq sounds like a respectable name tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:32 am My TRs are sparkles neon porscha
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Fully caught up tbh
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Heck yeah confidence restoredlucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:38 amyeah, sk got it right and you were the substitution
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twice top town tbh
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WoweeMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:06 ambro you've given reads and a poe and stuffNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:04 amHow am I being towny lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:02 amur being too towny and shitNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:01 amI'm v fragile this game
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So what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
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Skill issue smhBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:06 ampersonally i find "vibing with the thread and going with the flow" a position where i misclear wolves tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:44 pmi kind of agree with you - i think their posts have felt more tonally comfortable and they have been playing reactively (ie: responding almost exclusively to what other people are saying) instead of actively trying to establish a presence in the thread (Ie: lily abruptly making a meme post about who all of the mafia are)arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:39 pm Hmmm, it's funny that you say that SPF, because I was about to my post an observation/read I had, and I kind of want your input on this and thoughts.
I was actually going to slight townread Neon rn because I felt like when they entered the thread, they felt more like they were "vibing" with the thread and going with the flow. Like asking you about the League question and responding to Lily's wolf gc comment. So I had some good vibes from Neon after their initial "multi-tabbing" posts and seemed ok.
So I was wondering if you agree with my sentiment that Neon seems to be more natural rather than "attempting to fit in"?
i feel like i'm better at identifying when somebody is fitting in with the vibe "incorrectly" and i have a history of misclearing ppl for tone reasons, so i dont really townread neon for it but i get it
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You're just at an equivalent level but I refuse to do a tier listBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:54 ammacboq sounds like a respectable name tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:32 am My TRs are sparkles neon porscha
My SR is sean
My poe is sean, mac/boq, lucy/falcon, creature, and one of alison/aro (idk which yet, ask me tomorrow--not a difference check read they're just equivalent)
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why am i thereNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:23 amYou're just at an equivalent level but I refuse to do a tier listBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:54 ammacboq sounds like a respectable name tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:32 am My TRs are sparkles neon porscha
My SR is sean
My poe is sean, mac/boq, lucy/falcon, creature, and one of alison/aro (idk which yet, ask me tomorrow--not a difference check read they're just equivalent)
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bad faith, i’d assume someone else would be joking if they sent the same message tbhSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:20 amSo what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
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Why are any of us here, reallylucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:24 amwhy am i thereNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:23 amYou're just at an equivalent level but I refuse to do a tier listBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:54 ammacboq sounds like a respectable name tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:32 am My TRs are sparkles neon porscha
My SR is sean
My poe is sean, mac/boq, lucy/falcon, creature, and one of alison/aro (idk which yet, ask me tomorrow--not a difference check read they're just equivalent)
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why are we together?
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i meant on your listNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:25 amWhy are any of us here, reallylucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:24 amwhy am i thereNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:23 amYou're just at an equivalent level but I refuse to do a tier listBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:54 ammacboq sounds like a respectable name tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:32 am My TRs are sparkles neon porscha
My SR is sean
My poe is sean, mac/boq, lucy/falcon, creature, and one of alison/aro (idk which yet, ask me tomorrow--not a difference check read they're just equivalent)
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why are we together?
philosophically speaking i still don’t have an answer, besides that i enjoy life and i’m happy that i’m here
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Oh, I don't joke.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:25 ambad faith, i’d assume someone else would be joking if they sent the same message tbhSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:20 amSo what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
*he said jokingly*
(for legal reasons, my original post to Boq was NOT a joke)
Do you have a vested interest in stopping pressure against Boq? Unless you feel my "bad faith" argument is coming from wolf!Seanzie (which if you did, I'd expect you to comment on it rather than simply attack the argument, not the alignment), why wouldn't you want to see how Boq responds to some pressure?
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Thats as good an answer as any tbhlucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:27 ami meant on your listNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:25 amWhy are any of us here, reallylucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:24 amwhy am i thereNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:23 amYou're just at an equivalent level but I refuse to do a tier listBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:54 ammacboq sounds like a respectable name tbhNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:32 am My TRs are sparkles neon porscha
My SR is sean
My poe is sean, mac/boq, lucy/falcon, creature, and one of alison/aro (idk which yet, ask me tomorrow--not a difference check read they're just equivalent)
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philosophically speaking i still don’t have an answer, besides that i enjoy life and i’m happy that i’m here
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no, i expect such a bad argument to be nai/rand town for youSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:35 amOh, I don't joke.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:25 ambad faith, i’d assume someone else would be joking if they sent the same message tbhSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:20 amSo what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
*he said jokingly*
(for legal reasons, my original post to Boq was NOT a joke)
Do you have a vested interest in stopping pressure against Boq? Unless you feel my "bad faith" argument is coming from wolf!Seanzie (which if you did, I'd expect you to comment on it rather than simply attack the argument, not the alignment), why wouldn't you want to see how Boq responds to some pressure?
because that pressure is unwarranted and what you said was seriously fucking bad in regards to assumptions and line of argument, you’re doing some level 0 thought process (probably even more blatantly wrong) towards someone who isn’t level 0 whatsoever
why did you assume i’d think you were mafia because of it?
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Stopping an early game poke only makes sense if you think that poke is from mafia, or possibly poking the poker to see how they react, so either you're doing something that doesn't push the game forward, so I'm point out the fact that you not thinking I'm mafia makes your actions make little sense from a town standpoint.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:40 amno, i expect such a bad argument to be nai/rand town for youSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:35 amOh, I don't joke.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:25 ambad faith, i’d assume someone else would be joking if they sent the same message tbhSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:20 amSo what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
*he said jokingly*
(for legal reasons, my original post to Boq was NOT a joke)
Do you have a vested interest in stopping pressure against Boq? Unless you feel my "bad faith" argument is coming from wolf!Seanzie (which if you did, I'd expect you to comment on it rather than simply attack the argument, not the alignment), why wouldn't you want to see how Boq responds to some pressure?
because that pressure is unwarranted and what you said was seriously fucking bad in regards to assumptions and line of argument, you’re doing some level 0 thought process (probably even more blatantly wrong) towards someone who isn’t level 0 whatsoever
why did you assume i’d think you were mafia because of it?
As far as the "pressure is unwarranted", pretty much ALL D1 pressure is unwarranted, at least until people get some unwarranted pressure, respond to it, and then people respond to that, and then you have a history of pokes, actions and reactions that can generate content that actually warrants pressure. So, yeah, I'mma throw shit around and get the game going, because it is insanely pro-town to do so, regardless of how "unwarranted" you find the shit I throw to be.
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Cuz' if that was your 1st post, it was weird AF.Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:22 pmNo, my first post was me voting Neon. Why do you care?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:19 pmIs this your first post of the game?Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:14 pmWhat about this Lily post prompted you to vote her?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:44 pm[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergineLilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:40 pmi've been making posts like this every game sadlystaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:37 pmthis post in particular felt a bit out of place and like the type of post i would make as a nervous wolf who felt pressured to join in on the meme posting but idk if i actually believe this
I did more digging tho, and I'm fine with it
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia
It came off like I forgot my alignment? Really?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:22 pmmeh, it didn't really come off like that to me which is why I felt that post was kindy pingy and felt unnatural.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:17 pmI did not say that's why I was voting for you, tho I did ask Mac about you sheeping my vote.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:12 pmlol, but didn't you say you voted me cause you thought I was sheeping ur vote or something?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:09 pmYou don't like Mac cuz he's a 49ers fan?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:04 pm Wait @falcon45ca, you do realize I voted on Mac as a meme right? He said he was a 49ers fan and I am a Seahawks fan. Seahawks and 49ers don't like each other.
Also, I voted on you cause your intro post pinged me and it didn't seem genuine to me.
I thought it would've been cuz he's Australian.
They're all descendent from criminals who think their eco system is oh so precious and must be protected. Southern Hemisphere Snobbery
And my intro post was genuinely my first post of the game
and about ur into, I didn't like how at the end there you had like the "oh, I am town" as if you forgot or something and it didn't feel right to me. I just didn't vibe with it.
Oh, I did do that, but I didn't forget that I was town. I actually knew the whole time
So why did you vote me then, cause I thought it was cause you thought I was "sheeping your vote" when it was a meme vote.
It genuinely read as tho I was a wolf, who forgot what alignment he's supposed to fake? Like, that's a real thing you think?
I'm voting you cuz' I think you're scum. I can be more specific, your comment "town work hard everyday"...like, some real nice town virtue signaling. It's also total baloney.
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia
Good question.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:04 amHow am I being towny lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:02 amur being too towny and shitNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:01 amI'm v fragile this game
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yes tbhSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:20 amSo what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
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thats why i am practicing here tbh! Consider me a babyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:21 amSkill issue smhBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:06 ampersonally i find "vibing with the thread and going with the flow" a position where i misclear wolves tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:44 pmi kind of agree with you - i think their posts have felt more tonally comfortable and they have been playing reactively (ie: responding almost exclusively to what other people are saying) instead of actively trying to establish a presence in the thread (Ie: lily abruptly making a meme post about who all of the mafia are)arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:39 pm Hmmm, it's funny that you say that SPF, because I was about to my post an observation/read I had, and I kind of want your input on this and thoughts.
I was actually going to slight townread Neon rn because I felt like when they entered the thread, they felt more like they were "vibing" with the thread and going with the flow. Like asking you about the League question and responding to Lily's wolf gc comment. So I had some good vibes from Neon after their initial "multi-tabbing" posts and seemed ok.
So I was wondering if you agree with my sentiment that Neon seems to be more natural rather than "attempting to fit in"?
i feel like i'm better at identifying when somebody is fitting in with the vibe "incorrectly" and i have a history of misclearing ppl for tone reasons, so i dont really townread neon for it but i get it
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Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:41 amyes tbhSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:20 amSo what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia
So like I feel like Nook's town read on me is TMI. I should probably vote there.
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Heyo! Good to see you! I also have TMI on you, but that's because I hacked into the discord server and found out that your alignment isMissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:22 am So like I feel like Nook's town read on me is TMI. I should probably vote there.
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Oh shit this is why I hate going to sleep during a mafia game.
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Kinda bad reaction test, though, if that was what you were aiming at?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:46 amBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:41 amyes tbhSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:20 amSo what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
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Your question can be boiled down to: "Are you scum?"
What did you expect? What reaction do you possibly think any alignment would give you there? You wrote in a later post that you aim to pressure me, but your question itself is already answered by your own assumptions. I think you are aware of that and I am intelligent enough to see it. So I have no reason to answer your question seriously tbh
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"Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
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Re: King of the Hill Mafia
Kinda taken aback by Lucy biting back on my behalf in a manner like this tho tbh
i still lean town, i think
i still lean town, i think
Re: King of the Hill Mafia
I kinda townread lucy for this string of posts ftr. We just got off from last game with a town win and it felt like lucy had WIM from it.lucy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:19 pmhow long have you been playing and do you have a particular playstyle such as aggressive/passive/contrarian or something? I have never played with you before and I'm gonna ignore the turbo and popcorn gamesarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:15 pm Woot woot, some familiar names in a different place.
Excited for the first game in the syndicate!
And best of all, I’m town!! But we can discuss that later.
Just gonna have some fun rn hehe
Though I'm kinda concerned about this last quote. Feels somewhat forced.
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I guess my townread on arogame123 comes more from his early hyperposting and also trying to sokve me at some point. Though I might be underestimating his wolfgame.
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And yet, the more we interact, the more wolf!you will wonder if I am going to bite down or back off, and even good players react differently/in AI ways when being suspected vs not. My point is not to get you to say "yes" or "no", but to make sure you're aware that I suspect you, and see how your play changes through time based on that. As I push on a you/Alison team will you become tilted? Will you defend Alison? Will you brush my push off? Do you take it as a joke? Is it worth even responding to for you? Thus far, I haven't liked your response, and will be watching you closely moving forward.Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:33 amKinda bad reaction test, though, if that was what you were aiming at?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:46 amBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:41 amyes tbhSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:20 amSo what you're saying is...Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:02 am i was informed in the dvc for spech chat game that wolves are most likely within players that play "suboptimally" tbh. Normally I try to be more nuanced in my reads with them but I have decided to try to push those players and see if my accuracy increases or decreases. Tl;dr you all are my test subjects tbh
also i agree with this take about early game posts tbhstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:34 pm i've noticed that most wolves tend to struggle with posting in the early game (kind of like how i picked up on twice being awkward on page 1 of the spec chat invitational that just ended but then brushed it off when he got townier, or how i was able to pick up on hells being fake-solvey right away), and that's bcuz they haven't gotten into the flow of the game yet and are primarily concerned with "blending in" and not attracting any negative attention to themselves
i think it's uniquely easy to catch wolves in the first few pages of the game because of this, and lily's posts came the closest of meeting the archetype of somebody who was focused primarily with "blending in" and trying to seem natural. it's not really about whether she does it every game - it's about the timing, the flow, etc etc
i understand that this type of read has a high margin of error though
sadly i misread variance for it, but it did make me start town reading him eventually tbh
wolf team is Boq/Alison/??? and your plan is to powerwolf and push all the townies who play "suboptimally", while you are able to hide behind "well, I'm trying out a new strategy", and Alison hides behind playing like that always?
Did I read between the lines correctly?
yeet me into the sunokay.
[VOTE: Boq] aubergine
Your question can be boiled down to: "Are you scum?"
What did you expect? What reaction do you possibly think any alignment would give you there? You wrote in a later post that you aim to pressure me, but your question itself is already answered by your own assumptions. I think you are aware of that and I am intelligent enough to see it. So I have no reason to answer your question seriously tbh
Tl;Dr: Ask dumb questions, get dumb answers, or
"Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
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Lilypetal had the worst impression for me so far. Like staypositivefriend pointed out these posts all feel like trying to blend in and the hype behind these posts feel fake a lot like I ended up faking hype in the last mash by posting a lot of gifs.
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I also kinda related to this so more towny points for arogame123.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:56 pm Lily and Neon just casually howling together. Ez w/w. gottem![]()
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my town read on lucy began here. It is akin to how Lucy acts in dvc's and outside of in-games in general where she wants to learn more. I can see Lucy trying to apply the lessons she has learned. It was sort of a feeling, but later posts manifested it. Lucy protecting me was a bit weird but I can guess why she feels the need to do it. Last game we played I town read Lucy quickly over a post regarding me and I think it is close to Lucy's tone in this game tbhlucy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:19 pmhow long have you been playing and do you have a particular playstyle such as aggressive/passive/contrarian or something? I have never played with you before and I'm gonna ignore the turbo and popcorn gamesarogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:15 pm Woot woot, some familiar names in a different place.
Excited for the first game in the syndicate!
And best of all, I’m town!! But we can discuss that later.
Just gonna have some fun rn hehe