King of the Hill Mafia

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

[arogame123]

Also, playing league at the same time so might be a bit slow lmfao.

And I wanted to ask you Porscha, do you mainly sr Alison for Omgus or mainly her playstyle and the way she approaches the game?

Rn I had Alison and Porscha as the people I wanted to kill the most coming into today, but I feel like their interactions with each other from EoD to today is likely not w/w.

So I feel I need to look outside that and potentially evaluate my nulls further.

[arogame123]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

Oh is maj off?

[arogame123]

Hello, I'm around for a bit, incase anyone wants to real time.

Prolly won't have time to catch up till tomorrow after work.

I see your here Lily and I'd like to talk with u since I had some issues with ur EoD yesterday

I'm sleeping soon but I'll try to respond before then. I have talked a bit abt it already

What's up

So my main issue was how u voted EoD and the fact that it didn't match with ur motives/what u were saying.

Like you were sheeping your stronger tr, but then ended up voting vanity wagons and jumped off last second, when you could have earlier.

So it felt like you were tr these people and saying you'd follow, but then not follow cause you were afraid it would look bad on u. At least that's the impression I got with why u described u leaving the Falcon Wagon. Which to me felt like wolfy self-awareness.

addmittely tho, when u claimed that "I would be able to understand you better" I felt that was slightly townie from u, so I want to try and see if I can understand ur perspective in EoD. Cause as I mentioned, ur motive and action didn't match up so I felt meh around there

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

Oh is maj off?

Is it not?

[arogame123]

Also, Mac is still town imo, and his earlier outburst today on Alison was pretty towny from Mac in terms of his meta aggression and it lines up with what I saw in Mash.

Even if Alison is v, I still believe Mac is town tbh

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It is, I checked

[Boquise]

That falcon yeet makes no sense - he was townie and town read by the thread when i logged off
And that Jack yeet does not make sense either

[Lilypetal]

Hello, I'm around for a bit, incase anyone wants to real time.

Prolly won't have time to catch up till tomorrow after work.

I see your here Lily and I'd like to talk with u since I had some issues with ur EoD yesterday

I'm sleeping soon but I'll try to respond before then. I have talked a bit abt it already

What's up

So my main issue was how u voted EoD and the fact that it didn't match with ur motives/what u were saying.

Like you were sheeping your stronger tr, but then ended up voting vanity wagons and jumped off last second, when you could have earlier.

So it felt like you were tr these people and saying you'd follow, but then not follow cause you were afraid it would look bad on u. At least that's the impression I got with why u described u leaving the Falcon Wagon. Which to me felt like wolfy self-awareness.

addmittely tho, when u claimed that "I would be able to understand you better" I felt that was slightly townie from u, so I want to try and see if I can understand ur perspective in EoD. Cause as I mentioned, ur motive and action didn't match up so I felt meh around there

I did sheep my tr. I didn't vote alison. It's not about looking bad it's about making the wrong moves. Falcon seemed like he was gonna flip v by his posts and I panicked and felt bad and couldn't go to alison so I voted with boquise. It was not a confident eod.

[Lilypetal]

As a wolf I just sit on falcon and go aww shucks mac you were wrong.

[Lilypetal]

Or that's what I think a wolf would do and probably what the wolves on falcon would do

[arogame123]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

Oh is maj off?

Is it not?

idk was asking you lol

Also, what's ur current state of the game?

[Lilypetal]

I had a flashback to C v D tbh I remembered the Schiavetto ML and how their legacy posts were so towny and falcon had the same vibes. So I did what my heart wanted

[Boquise]

if porscha is town, it means that the main wagons being pushed (me, jack, porscha) were all town.
I just woke up and will read up later, but I will keep that in mind tbh

[Boquise]

That falcon yeet makes no sense - he was townie and town read by the thread when i logged off
And that Jack yeet does not make sense either

that jack kill*

[Lilypetal]

if porscha is town, it means that the main wagons being pushed (me, jack, porscha) were all town.
I just woke up and will read up later, but I will keep that in mind tbh

I believe this to be the case

[Lilypetal]

Also good morning

[Lilypetal]

And good night lol

@arogame123 let's talk more tomorrow so I can get your pov of the game. Spf town reads you and I would like to find you. We will be an unstoppable team

[Boquise]

i voted alison for a second but decided to unvote
[VOTE: Sleep] aubergine

I need to consider why wolf!Alison would want Jack die, considering that eliminates a potential misyeet and could make Alison look worse.

[arogame123]

And good night lol

@arogame123 let's talk more tomorrow so I can get your pov of the game. Spf town reads you and I would like to find you. We will be an unstoppable team

Yes, sounds good. If you are town, I would want to find you as well.

Currently in LEague game, so yea, tomorrow sounds good to chat

[Boquise]

It is noted that Seanzie has been pushing a townie for two days now without any sense of progression tbh

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

seanzie/creature/X

[Porscha]

Also, playing league at the same time so might be a bit slow lmfao.

And I wanted to ask you Porscha, do you mainly sr Alison for Omgus or mainly her playstyle and the way she approaches the game?

Rn I had Alison and Porscha as the people I wanted to kill the most coming into today, but I feel like their interactions with each other from EoD to today is likely not w/w.

So I feel I need to look outside that and potentially evaluate my nulls further.

I felt form alison/mac argument, it was never w/w. I tr'd mac from it. at best it was t/t, at worst it was w/t.
at best, alison is tunneling on me for my playstyle and my inability to sit at pc and iso and type longer + more specific responses that she prefers. but it isn't malicious - it's her just tunneling again.
at worst, she thought I was someone she could ML and say it was because I wasn't up to her standard and deserved to die anyway. "I was not wrong on Porscha, I read her objectively. And objectively, she played scummy." and then get away with ML'ing me without repercussion.

Which it is, I don't know.

[Porscha]

if porscha is town, it means that the main wagons being pushed (me, jack, porscha) were all town.
I just woke up and will read up later, but I will keep that in mind tbh

what's the logic behind this pls?

[Porscha]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

i'm surprised you made it quickly. I don't feel that you normally do this unless you are policy'ing someone

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

Oh is maj off?

Is it not?

idk was asking you lol

Also, what's ur current state of the game?

Still believe there's likely two in the [mac/alison/porscha/lily/lucy] grouping

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

i'm surprised you made it quickly. I don't feel that you normally do this unless you are policy'ing someone

I often vote quickly

I very very rarely policy someone

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm bored a f

[Porscha]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

i'm surprised you made it quickly. I don't feel that you normally do this unless you are policy'ing someone

I often vote quickly

I very very rarely policy someone

I am unsure if my read of you not voting quickly and being anti policy is real or made up in my head but I think is real

[Porscha]

I'm bored a f

truth or dare

[staypositivefriend]

im trying to fall asleep but i just wanted to say nya

[arogame123]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

Oh is maj off?

Is it not?

idk was asking you lol

Also, what's ur current state of the game?

Still believe there's likely two in the [mac/alison/porscha/lily/lucy] grouping

minus Mac, that is kind of my poe/leans rn, and I felt decent-ish about lucy yesterday, but I need to refresh my read there.

Though tbh, Porscha's ATE was kind of getting to me in a towny way shrug :/

[arogame123]

im trying to fall asleep but i just wanted to say nya

nya nya

[Lilypetal]

Nya bye gn

[arogame123]

SPF, while I have you here, before I go to bed, what's ur current perspective with towns and poe?

with towns I am at Mac, you, and Boq

I am starting to feel good about Nanook and still have some town leanings on Creature from day 1.

Can you talk to me about Seanzie's spot? I remember I had him town leaning day 1, but if his continued push remains on Boq, it feels kind of bad.

So I wanted ur takes.

[arogame123]

Also, playing league at the same time so might be a bit slow lmfao.

And I wanted to ask you Porscha, do you mainly sr Alison for Omgus or mainly her playstyle and the way she approaches the game?

Rn I had Alison and Porscha as the people I wanted to kill the most coming into today, but I feel like their interactions with each other from EoD to today is likely not w/w.

So I feel I need to look outside that and potentially evaluate my nulls further.

I felt form alison/mac argument, it was never w/w. I tr'd mac from it. at best it was t/t, at worst it was w/t.
at best, alison is tunneling on me for my playstyle and my inability to sit at pc and iso and type longer + more specific responses that she prefers. but it isn't malicious - it's her just tunneling again.
at worst, she thought I was someone she could ML and say it was because I wasn't up to her standard and deserved to die anyway. "I was not wrong on Porscha, I read her objectively. And objectively, she played scummy." and then get away with ML'ing me without repercussion.

Which it is, I don't know.

hmmm, I can agree with u on the first part of what u said and that alison/mac are not w/w.

But also, with that in mind, I assume it's more so u think that Alison is pushing u in bad faith due to ur "inability to play the game." Unfortunately, I have seen Alison make pushes like that on many people in the past as she attempts to make the "optimal play."

With that in mind though, what were your thoughts on Alison attempting to spearhead the wagon on you from Falcon as Alison was tr Falcon?

That to me was weird that Alison tr Falcon, Alison sr you, Falcon sr Alison, and you sr Alison. It was like a weird circle/triangle lol

[arogame123]

I'm bored a f

Want to chit chat if you are still here?

[staypositivefriend]

SPF, while I have you here, before I go to bed, what's ur current perspective with towns and poe?

with towns I am at Mac, you, and Boq

I am starting to feel good about Nanook and still have some town leanings on Creature from day 1.

Can you talk to me about Seanzie's spot? I remember I had him town leaning day 1, but if his continued push remains on Boq, it feels kind of bad.

So I wanted ur takes.

i think that mac, lilypetal, boq, and you are all probably town. i'm starting to townlean porscha after her posts over the last page. i do not currently townread creatue or nanook and i'd like you to talk about your reads on both of whem please.

seanzie had a series of very villagery posts toward the beginning of the game, and his posts have had diminishing returns since then. he has been one of the players most responsible for creating momentum against boq, and i think this makes seanzie look worse in a world where boq id town (which i am leaning on being the case). seanzie echoed the likely incorrect scumread on lilypetal early in the game as well. seanzie pushed on jack, who was town, and pushed on you, who i think is probably town as well. he also silently switched his vote to alison to "keep things spicy" which i think looks awkward and out of place even in a world where alison is a wolf. he has also spent a great deal of time defending creature, which looks worse in a world where creature is wolf (which i am currently exploring as a possibility)

i think seanzie fits the archetype of a slot that is going under the radar and pushing on as many villagers as he possibly can. most of his posts seem to lack any clear solving intent and his reads largely feel like they're being pulled out of a magical hat

this is way more words than i intended to write when i meant to be asleep like an hour ago. if you want any more details from me then you're going to have to wait until tomorrow

[staypositivefriend]

oh and i kind of think alison is town too in spite of myself. i just do not see the scum intent in her posts and think she would have to be playing in a stupidly suicidal way in a world where she is mafia

goodnight for real

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

i'm surprised you made it quickly. I don't feel that you normally do this unless you are policy'ing someone

I often vote quickly

I very very rarely policy someone

I am unsure if my read of you not voting quickly and being anti policy is real or made up in my head but I think is real

Not voting quickly just isn't a thing.

I am generally anti policy tho, you're correct about that

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

oh nook is voting me. absolute top lol'ing chad move he has pulled in less than 5 hours of the day. the hamster running my mental space is intrigued. nook placing vote on me this early into day... is ... interesting.

Theres no hammer

Not sure why my vote would be surprising tbh

Oh is maj off?

Is it not?

idk was asking you lol

Also, what's ur current state of the game?

Still believe there's likely two in the [mac/alison/porscha/lily/lucy] grouping

minus Mac, that is kind of my poe/leans rn, and I felt decent-ish about lucy yesterday, but I need to refresh my read there.

Though tbh, Porscha's ATE was kind of getting to me in a towny way shrug :/

It did nothing for me

[arogame123]

if porscha is town, it means that the main wagons being pushed (me, jack, porscha) were all town.
I just woke up and will read up later, but I will keep that in mind tbh

what's the logic behind this pls?

Well if all those "wagons" were v, it means either mafia were relaxing outside or that they were enforcing those wagons and pushing them.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm bored a f

truth or dare

Truth.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm bored a f

Want to chit chat if you are still here?

I'm always watching. Wazowski.

[Boquise]

if porscha is town, it means that the main wagons being pushed (me, jack, porscha) were all town.
I just woke up and will read up later, but I will keep that in mind tbh

what's the logic behind this pls?

I am town
I know Jack was town
If you are town
It means all three main pushes were town.

It would imply that wolves had it chill last day until eod. It is only if Alison is wolf that the wolf team was in any sense of danger tbh

[MacDougall]

if porscha is town, it means that the main wagons being pushed (me, jack, porscha) were all town.
I just woke up and will read up later, but I will keep that in mind tbh

what's the logic behind this pls?

I am town
I know Jack was town
If you are town
It means all three main pushes were town.

It would imply that wolves had it chill last day until eod. It is only if Alison is wolf that the wolf team was in any sense of danger tbh

You and Creature were top wagons at one point. I quoted alison calling it dumb.

[Boquise]

if porscha is town, it means that the main wagons being pushed (me, jack, porscha) were all town.
I just woke up and will read up later, but I will keep that in mind tbh

what's the logic behind this pls?

I am town
I know Jack was town
If you are town
It means all three main pushes were town.

It would imply that wolves had it chill last day until eod. It is only if Alison is wolf that the wolf team was in any sense of danger tbh

You and Creature were top wagons at one point. I quoted alison calling it dumb.

oh
that happened when i was asleep then?

[arogame123]

SPF, while I have you here, before I go to bed, what's ur current perspective with towns and poe?

with towns I am at Mac, you, and Boq

I am starting to feel good about Nanook and still have some town leanings on Creature from day 1.

Can you talk to me about Seanzie's spot? I remember I had him town leaning day 1, but if his continued push remains on Boq, it feels kind of bad.

So I wanted ur takes.

i think that mac, lilypetal, boq, and you are all probably town. i'm starting to townlean porscha after her posts over the last page. i do not currently townread creatue or nanook and i'd like you to talk about your reads on both of whem please.

seanzie had a series of very villagery posts toward the beginning of the game, and his posts have had diminishing returns since then. he has been one of the players most responsible for creating momentum against boq, and i think this makes seanzie look worse in a world where boq id town (which i am leaning on being the case). seanzie echoed the likely incorrect scumread on lilypetal early in the game as well. seanzie pushed on jack, who was town, and pushed on you, who i think is probably town as well. he also silently switched his vote to alison to "keep things spicy" which i think looks awkward and out of place even in a world where alison is a wolf. he has also spent a great deal of time defending creature, which looks worse in a world where creature is wolf (which i am currently exploring as a possibility)

i think seanzie fits the archetype of a slot that is going under the radar and pushing on as many villagers as he possibly can. most of his posts seem to lack any clear solving intent and his reads largely feel like they're being pulled out of a magical hat

this is way more words than i intended to write when i meant to be asleep like an hour ago. if you want any more details from me then you're going to have to wait until tomorrow

Wow ok, I town read SPF individually, but god damn do we disagree on majority of our perspective...

Alison town? and you no longer town read Creature either???

Also, what happened to your Rondo push that you tried to get on yesterday, cause from what I remember you were really on that slot the most before u landed on Falcon.

And tbh, I am somewhat surprised you don't tl Nanook for his EoD as well SPF.

You also need to convince me with ur Lily tr as I am not there, but I aim to chat/discuss more with Lily tomorrow about the issues I have around her slot.

I will say tho, I agree with u that Seanzie had a series of villagery posts, and I mentioned earlier that his push on Boq is bad and it isn't good, but we both know that being wrong != mafia. Otherwise, everyone would be on Mac rn lol. Also, I know this is wifom, but it's a bit weird for Seanzi if he is mafia to kill one of his sr in the night when he was pushing that slot. And seanzie didn't really push on me? He just voted me and asked if I read his games, I don't think it was anything nefarious lol.

So in your opinion, does Seanzie appear to come out as a powerwolfer then from what you were describing about his play in regards to your tr? Tbh, I read over some of Seanzie's games, and he doesn't really seem like the powerwolfer that would fit the archetype that you seem to be describing about him. From my understanding, I think Seanzie was tr Falcon and sure he pushed on Jack a bit but Jack died in the night. I will agree that I disagree and dislike his push on Boq. But besides that, I could see that as a townie that is moving their vote around in a non-agenday way not looking for traction, but rather pushing on their mafia reads and going after what they believe in. This was actually a read I was reading on Falcon somewhat earlier in day 1 and look where that lead me :/

But in addition to your concerns with the "defence of Creature" Personally I still have some town leanings on Creature's slot so I think it's unfair to push Seanzie in that regards as we technically don't know Creature's alignment and I think he is slightly leaning town as well. I was quickly going back in the ISO of Jack and I saw that Creature was one of his most confident tr, so that is also playing into why I have creature slightly townie.

[Boquise]

i am going to once more walk back on my porscha read and stop - she is town tbh
I have never been wrong on this sort of read before and I know players in her position are often misyeet bait tbh

[arogame123]

I'm bored a f

Want to chit chat if you are still here?

I'm always watching. Wazowski.

I am a fan of Monsters Inc lol

What's your favorite type of ice cream?