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but i wanna re-affirm my nanook town lean and idk what rondo has done?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:20 amsell me first on players outside of this list that you townread lolBoquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:37 amsell me on nanook and rondo tbhMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:30 am Nanook
Porscha
SPF
Boq
Lucy
Rondo
Seanzie
^ kinda think all of these are town lol
Would like succinct but persuasive reasoning for other players so I can make this big enough for my POE to kill the mafia lol
i see because it is after this post i quoted that you unvoted.
Just a vibe? He seemed like a dead towny whereas a wolf at that point is in antispew. I didn't realize he had only said the first thing when I unvoted tbh just knew the 2nd post hit me hard before the flip actually happened. Guess I liked the first one a lot too. Like that post can come from a wolf but when I'm already having big doubts stuff like that reads townier to me
How does it solve to throw a single vote on a vanity wagon that is universally pretty town cored?
Vote sucks sorry not sorry. He can find you without the vote. *shrugs*
Hey...I was kind of doing that
[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
I solve independently. I am no lemming tbh, and that is what I want to signal to the wolves tbh.Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:49 amHow does it solve to throw a single vote on a vanity wagon that is universally pretty town cored?
Porscha at least had wagon potential but I also just TR porscha and so yes I thought that was also bad and had Porscha gone over and flipped town you have two ways to look at my agenda. The right one and the wrong one
Did I fall into the poe after being declared towncore solely for my Lily vote? Lmao.Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am Anyways the thing I was trying to do
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo
Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook
Porscha (2): Boq, Lily
Reads:
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo
Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook
Porscha (2): Boq, Lily
Thoughts...if TVT 1 of Boq Lily is almost 100% woof IMHO out of those I'm on Boq
PoE: Boq
Rondo and Seanzie actually feel mostly townie to me as of this day but what's the actual likelihood Alison's wagon is just pure? I dunno. Maybe 2 woofs stacked on Falcon by why not try to get Alison over as I've been repeatedly told she's a strong player.
Creature just feels outed
PoE: Creature, Boq
I kinda don't like Aro at all today and Nanook has felt off this entire game to me but I've never really felt Nanook was easy to read
PoE: Creature, Aro, Boq, Nanook
I dunno if I assumed woofs put 1 on each wagon I'd probably lean Seanzie, Creature, Boq... I'm kind of just leaning town on Alison harder and harder. I suck at mafia.
Anyways somewhere in the yellow are my woofs.
Definitely just gonna do nothing and conplain about being townread in my next wolf game...Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:45 amnicearogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:40 pmI was reading over some of Seanzie's town games and he is def more stubborn with his pushes and usually picks a few targets like 1 or 2 and just continues to push on them without looking much outside. It's like a deer with headlights and it seems very similar this game. Also, I noticed some similar tone with his condescendingness like he showed in this game with his response to Mac at EoD with "Oooh, I want towncred on myself" and it meta wise it seems similar based off the games I perused. SPF mentioned that she got powerwolf vibes from Seanzie, but I disagree as Seanzie as mafia was more laid back and kind of a coaster than an aggressor based off what I read in a couple of his mafia games. I have been burned by these comparison in games *cough* Wisp *cough*, but so far his gameplay and tone have seen very similar to his town games where he picks a target and goes after them and his condescending tone is similar to his town games. Just an observation I had.Boquise wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:35 pm Seanzie is playing in an extremely limited way. Scum is usually seen casting a wide net so if their preferred misyeet occurs, they are not left with zero reads. However scum CAN play like this and I have seen it happen. I am still leaning to Seanzie being town. Mostly because he is stubbornly informing everyone that he is indeed still in his scum range. It feels like it is coming from a pov where you are irritated that people are looking down on your scum game/clearing you too easily (thus underestimating you) and this is something an actual wolf WANTS town to do. Whereas a town player has a more holistic mindset where this reaction can stem from.
us mindmelding makes me feel more secure with this read tbh
I am bumping Seanzie up to town reads for now tbh
I dunno wagonomics 101 has taught me that in T v T with an off wagon there's usually a woof off wagon. Usually exactly 1.
Vibes. I like your tone and solving and generally how you're posts sound and feel. I dunno how to word it better than that.
Sure I'm not saying don't vote off wagon. Hell I'm voting off wagon. That's not why it's bad.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:20 amI solve independently. I am no lemming tbh, and that is what I want to signal to the wolves tbh.Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:49 amHow does it solve to throw a single vote on a vanity wagon that is universally pretty town cored?
Porscha at least had wagon potential but I also just TR porscha and so yes I thought that was also bad and had Porscha gone over and flipped town you have two ways to look at my agenda. The right one and the wrong one
Furthermore, my vote made you react, so that makes me able to get insight on you tbh
Finally, it is super bad if all we do today is chill at 2 wagons for 48 hours. It means that we will be forced to solve between Alison and Creature for perhaps D3 too. If both are town, that is disastrous for town and for our chances to find wolves. If both Alison and Creature are town - then wolves want to keep this status quo so they have two free days. Therefore wolves are likely to be inside those who react strongly to votes outside the status quo and want to make those outliers feel bad for doing so, get them to follow the line.
Which means that thanks to my vote, your wolf equity became way higher - if Alison and Creature are town. I think that's very productive in solving tbh
It was for the reason I stated.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:21 amDid I fall into the poe after being declared towncore solely for my Lily vote? Lmao.Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am Anyways the thing I was trying to do
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo
Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook
Porscha (2): Boq, Lily
Reads:
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo
Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook
Porscha (2): Boq, Lily
Thoughts...if TVT 1 of Boq Lily is almost 100% woof IMHO out of those I'm on Boq
PoE: Boq
Rondo and Seanzie actually feel mostly townie to me as of this day but what's the actual likelihood Alison's wagon is just pure? I dunno. Maybe 2 woofs stacked on Falcon by why not try to get Alison over as I've been repeatedly told she's a strong player.
Creature just feels outed
PoE: Creature, Boq
I kinda don't like Aro at all today and Nanook has felt off this entire game to me but I've never really felt Nanook was easy to read
PoE: Creature, Aro, Boq, Nanook
I dunno if I assumed woofs put 1 on each wagon I'd probably lean Seanzie, Creature, Boq... I'm kind of just leaning town on Alison harder and harder. I suck at mafia.
Anyways somewhere in the yellow are my woofs.
It was for the reason stated. Yellow does not equal scum.
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:52 amIt was for the reason I stated.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:21 amDid I fall into the poe after being declared towncore solely for my Lily vote? Lmao.Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am Anyways the thing I was trying to do
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo
Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook
Porscha (2): Boq, Lily
Reads:
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo
Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook
Porscha (2): Boq, Lily
Thoughts...if TVT 1 of Boq Lily is almost 100% woof IMHO out of those I'm on Boq
PoE: Boq
Rondo and Seanzie actually feel mostly townie to me as of this day but what's the actual likelihood Alison's wagon is just pure? I dunno. Maybe 2 woofs stacked on Falcon by why not try to get Alison over as I've been repeatedly told she's a strong player.
Creature just feels outed
PoE: Creature, Boq
I kinda don't like Aro at all today and Nanook has felt off this entire game to me but I've never really felt Nanook was easy to read
PoE: Creature, Aro, Boq, Nanook
I dunno if I assumed woofs put 1 on each wagon I'd probably lean Seanzie, Creature, Boq... I'm kind of just leaning town on Alison harder and harder. I suck at mafia.
Anyways somewhere in the yellow are my woofs.
boq always on alison if he went on alison
is this an independent read, or is it motivated by other peoples reads on me?
Independent. But I do weigh and value the opinions of those I heavily town read towards players I less heavily town read.
I dunno what you want me to say. If Alison is town your a woof candidate in my pov.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:56 amNeon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:52 amIt was for the reason I stated.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:21 amDid I fall into the poe after being declared towncore solely for my Lily vote? Lmao.Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am Anyways the thing I was trying to do
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo
Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook
Porscha (2): Boq, Lily
Reads:
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo
Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook
Porscha (2): Boq, Lily
Thoughts...if TVT 1 of Boq Lily is almost 100% woof IMHO out of those I'm on Boq
PoE: Boq
Rondo and Seanzie actually feel mostly townie to me as of this day but what's the actual likelihood Alison's wagon is just pure? I dunno. Maybe 2 woofs stacked on Falcon by why not try to get Alison over as I've been repeatedly told she's a strong player.
Creature just feels outed
PoE: Creature, Boq
I kinda don't like Aro at all today and Nanook has felt off this entire game to me but I've never really felt Nanook was easy to read
PoE: Creature, Aro, Boq, Nanook
I dunno if I assumed woofs put 1 on each wagon I'd probably lean Seanzie, Creature, Boq... I'm kind of just leaning town on Alison harder and harder. I suck at mafia.
Anyways somewhere in the yellow are my woofs.![]()
Why is it bad then, if off wagon is not bad?Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:51 am
Sure I'm not saying don't vote off wagon. Hell I'm voting off wagon. That's not why it's bad.
I don't solve in consensus with others. But I think a vote can be bad irregardless of intent outside it.
But maybe it's semantics I'd prefer we not clog the thread.
In wolf equity though I have this to say. I suck at Werewolf but I'm better than that.
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:03 am I've still in the middle of towncasing myself and I debated whether to say this for awhile or if it would even help since I don't think I've ever discussed this before and it's icky but I'll just say it:
I promise I'm town.
You've never heard me say I promise in a mafia game before and you'll never hear me say I promise in a mafia game again. That's because it would be a trust tell if I did it as a pattern. I feel like as someone who lies because of being a mafia player I need to have something that's trustworthy no matter what and that's why I make sure my promises are 100% true.
This game is just so important to me and I know I'll feel absolutely horrible if I were the lylo mislim and the reason town loses that I feel like I have to do anything in my power to make town win.
I mean I've stated why. But you disagree so I'm trying to drop it. I also just think my feelings are probably invalid and developed because of the places I grew up playing. I'm not used to playing in hammerless mountainous games.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:01 amWhy is it bad then, if off wagon is not bad?Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:51 am
Sure I'm not saying don't vote off wagon. Hell I'm voting off wagon. That's not why it's bad.
I don't solve in consensus with others. But I think a vote can be bad irregardless of intent outside it.
But maybe it's semantics I'd prefer we not clog the thread.
In wolf equity though I have this to say. I suck at Werewolf but I'm better than that.
I don't think we are clogging the thread. The thread is almost silent and this conversation might make people get reads out of us too tbh! That's pro town.
Thats not a very good defence ngl tbh
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:11 am Don't solve whole game.
Kill wolf.
Then reassess.
And don't read the first wolf for spew.
Just reset.
I liked the irony of it tooSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:21 pmPot KettleRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:17 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Seanzie @Boquise more content plsSpoiler: show
Are you doing post count pokes at this point? Are you caught up?
can u notlucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:03 am I've still in the middle of towncasing myself and I debated whether to say this for awhile or if it would even help since I don't think I've ever discussed this before and it's icky but I'll just say it:
I promise I'm town.
You've never heard me say I promise in a mafia game before and you'll never hear me say I promise in a mafia game again. That's because it would be a trust tell if I did it as a pattern. I feel like as someone who lies because of being a mafia player I need to have something that's trustworthy no matter what and that's why I make sure my promises are 100% true.
This game is just so important to me and I know I'll feel absolutely horrible if I were the lylo mislim and the reason town loses that I feel like I have to do anything in my power to make town win.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:41 amIdk, do what your heart desires, who am I to judge anotherRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:29 pmmy slot wanted to resolve you. Why shouldnt I just do a 360 and tunnel you?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:01 pm I kinda want to resolve porscha first cause I don't think her and Alison are ever paired