[Endgame] Masters of the Universe Mafia

#1901

oops pretend that ^ was in dead red

#1902

At the same time, it seems difficult to always on the iPad.

#1903

He-Man wrote:oops pretend that ^ was in dead red

Even if that was in dead red, it reads as an on-topic post. Please refrain from posting on topic if your cardiopulmonary system has ceased to perform. Thank you.

#1904

As bad as Stinkor may be, he has definitely brought the funny to these conversations

So who do you think went after orson?

#1905

Elohcin wrote:As bad as Stinkor may be, he has definitely brought the funny to these conversations

So who do you think went after orson?

Cobra, I think

#1906

Hello all! I just recently arrived back. Let me catch up and I'll voice my thoughts.

Was a crazy day. Annie and I were headed back home but we got a flat tire so it took longer to get home than expected. Also, less than a half hour after we got our flat, I received a call from ticketmaster saying my concert was rescheduled for April 18th, lol, so I will have some time here, but I need to catch up first.

Also, I found out my score on Regulation and I passed with an 82!!!!!!!!! :yay:

#1907

Congratulations that's great MP!

#1908

Elohcin wrote:As bad as Stinkor may be, he has definitely brought the funny to these conversations

So who do you think went after orson?

My guess is timmer, or sd. As they were the one I was kinda outing as poss baddies, especially timmer after surviving the lynch didn't for whatever reason not get lynched again and started flying under the radar....once I brought up him, all of a sudden some snake wants to randomly bite me, I don't buy it.
One of those two is bad and maybe both r on the same team

And what's up with drunk guy saying MP js bad.?
I though both he and MP were kinda civvie, although tbh, drunk guy did vouch for SD , saying he has been reading him civvie the whole game after himself gaining some civvie cred which pinged me at the time as odd, but now with the whole, I'm drunk and mp is bad thing kinda out of nowhere its even more strange...maybe he is hexed or whstevs, idk, but its strange.

#1909

The very next post after I said MP is bad was me saying "not really". I was goofing off.

#1910

Thanks JC!

I agree that Dom was a good choice for this lynch, but I too am confused about the snake thing. I guess we'll see what happens. I do hope orson survives because I have been reading him as civvie.

Weird that we don't have any night poll, and the fact that people are getting insanified is both confusing and annoying. Stinkor is obviously not a good creature to have around.

LOL at reywaS drunk mafia'ing. That cracked me up. I noticed he said I was bad, but I don't know if it was serious or not. Linki with reywaS: I suppose not, lol.

If I missed anything else that people addressed to me, just let me know, but it seems that was actually a relatively easy catch-up.

#1911

Listen, I've had a hell of a day. I do not feel right managing the Night post right now. I will get some sleep and post the next part of our story tomorrow.

#1912

Sounds like a plan Robert! Take your time.

#1913

Good call Epi! 3D life always comes first.

Hey hey! Congrats MoPi! Way to go!!

#1914

My bad Sawyer. In my disgust with an obvious attempt to weaken the civvie team I must gave missed where u said J/k.

Yea host real life>mafia.

Good job MP!!

#1915

thellama73 wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Yes I can definitely rehash that stinkor is indeed bad just from watching the series.
His name is "Stinkor!" Of course he's bad. Why are we even having this conversation?
lol idk. Because there's no poll to vote on and thus nothing to discuss besides petty things.
I know something interesting we can discuss. Are you from Snake Mountain, BF?

Come on, tell the truth.

Seriously? Please listen to me, you're barking up the wrong tree. I was one of the first to mention He-Man this past lynch day and I voted for him. I know his vote does not make sense, but rethink how Roxy's vote didn't make sense either. She threw her vote away instead of voting for me or for He-Man. Her role had secrets, I guarantee you she had some sort of vote manipulation and Snake Mountain thought they had me easy and their plan backfired. I am not his teammate and I don't know what else I could possibly do to prove it to you lol.

#1916

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Was a crazy day. Annie and I were headed back home but we got a flat tire so it took longer to get home than expected. Also, less than a half hour after we got our flat, I received a call from ticketmaster saying my concert was rescheduled for April 18th, lol, so I will have some time here, but I need to catch up first.

Also, I found out my score on Regulation and I passed with an 82!!!!!!!!!

I know I kind of mentioned it on Facebook, but congrats again man! Somehow I knew you were going to pass the first time!

#1917

I guess I should amend that to say, the manner with which Roxy voted (I think) proves I'm not Snake Mountain because of this:

Imagine all three of us were bad. I had already thrown away my vote to Reywas, so at the end of the lynch I could not vote defensively. Roxy and He-Man voted last, #21 and #22. You can read the vote order here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=108&start=400#p7135

Wouldn't you think in such a scenario where all three of the top lynch candidates were on Snake Mountain, the opportunity would be used to give He-Man and Roxy civvie cred by ensuring my lynch? But instead she threw her vote away, and He-Man tied it. I know it's WIFOM, but seriously, I hope this shows you how no matter which way you look at it, it still doesn't make sense the way they voted.

I'm your friend, I swear by it~

The best example I can offer to demonstrate He-Man/Dex's boundless bravery is Carebears mafia on RM forever ago, he and Golden fought so hard against eachothers lynch and were on the same team. Dex got lynched and we didn't think it was possible Golden could possibly be bad. He-Man can be reckless, and brave, and just hard to read. But I'll assure you, I already knew I might have been accused of this very thing when I pushed for He-Man's lynch, and yet I did it anyway. I am not dumb, I knew I was walking into a "Well hey, he voted for you instead of his teammate, so you must be bad too" - I hope this shows you I did what I felt needed to be done. If that means I get lynched, so be it, but I only hope you haven't closed your mind to reason.

#1918

orsonkidd wrote:
My guess is timmer, or sd. As they were the one I was kinda outing as poss baddies, especially timmer after surviving the lynch didn't for whatever reason not get lynched again and started flying under the radar....once I brought up him, all of a sudden some snake wants to randomly bite me, I don't buy it.

Or someone tried to kill you to put a target on me. Look, I know I've been quiet lately, but I've been busy, and recently silenced, as well. Whatever happened with that snake had nothing to do with me, and you pointing me out because I happen to be the guy you had put the

on recently is just going to play into the baddies' plans.

#1919

So you say, but admit it, u got real quiet after you weren't re lynched. I know rl gets in the way, and u may b right about it playing into the baddies hands...
However, if that were true and u aren't bad, don't u think after loosing so many bad players they wouldn't want to let a good one who was tagged by most of us as bad slip away w/ o as much as a peep?
The eye is and should be on you. Ur defense is weak tbh. If i die I hope u are looked at squarely as the person responsible. Not that SD and kate don't need to be looked at,imo
(Again this is just game stuff, I'm not trying to bemean or talk down to any player, I love all my mafia peeps and lookforward to killing/saving being saved/killed by all or any of u...:-)

#1920

orsonkidd wrote:So you say, but admit it, u got real quiet after you weren't re lynched. I know rl gets in the way, and u may b right about it playing into the baddies hands...
However, if that were true and u aren't bad, don't u think after loosing so many bad players they wouldn't want to let a good one who was tagged by most of us as bad slip away w/ o as much as a peep?
The eye is and should be on you. Ur defense is weak tbh. If i die I hope u are looked at squarely as the person responsible. Not that SD and kate don't need to be looked at,imo
(Again this is just game stuff, I'm not trying to bemean or talk down to any player, I love all my mafia peeps and lookforward to killing/saving being saved/killed by all or any of u...:-)

You can protect them

#1921

orsonkidd wrote:So you say, but admit it, u got real quiet after you weren't re lynched. I know rl gets in the way, and u may b right about it playing into the baddies hands...
However, if that were true and u aren't bad, don't u think after loosing so many bad players they wouldn't want to let a good one who was tagged by most of us as bad slip away w/ o as much as a peep?
The eye is and should be on you. Ur defense is weak tbh. If i die I hope u are looked at squarely as the person responsible. Not that SD and kate don't need to be looked at,imo
(Again this is just game stuff, I'm not trying to bemean or talk down to any player, I love all my mafia peeps and lookforward to killing/saving being saved/killed by all or any of u...:-)

Images and content.

People who work with me? If you have data that shows that great style of play, you know. The game will not be good for them.

#1922

Thank you for your happiness animations, build and why (?) Other games to play, but to do so. There is no reason for the order.

#1923

Thank you for your animation!

#1924

orson, could you explain your reasons for suspecting Kate and Snow Dog?

#1925

juliets wrote:orson, could you explain your reasons for suspecting Kate and Snow Dog?

#1926

Kate wrote:
juliets wrote:orson, could you explain your reasons for suspecting Kate and Snow Dog?

#1927

Get crazy during the game in a long time.

#1928

Night 7: Cold

The stench was overwhelming, and the party tried to distance themselves from the reeking victims of Stinkor as they journeyed farther north, leaving behind the Plains of Perpetua.

Though Dom seemed to be recovering, many still suspected him and wanted to see him perish. They continued to plot how they might be rid of him.

It was orsonkidd whose condition worsened. Fever had overtaken him, and a rapid necrosis of his leg had set in. The rest of his skin became clammy, and a sudden delirium overcame him. Whatever his last words were, he couldn’t say them on account of the profuse vomiting.

While the crowd watched his death and transformation, thellama73 felt two cold hands press against him, and his startled scream never made it out of his throat. The sensation of coldness came over him with paranormal suddenness. He could not speak, and soon, his eyes became stationary. Eventually his body went numb and he could feel nothing. Seconds later, he lost consciousness.

It began to snow.

orsonkidd has been lynched. He was Fisto.
thellama73 has been killed by Snake Mountain.
There were 2 missing PMs.

It is now Day 8. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

#1929

RIP Orson and thellama.

Soooooo, do we try to lynch Dom again or discuss other possibilities as to who is mafia?

#1930

Dalai Lama Orsonkidd...

#1931

Avenge me, friends!

#1932

RIP Llama and Orsonkidd.

#1933

RIP orsonkidd and thellama - I just don't understand these lynch switches.

FH, my first gut reaction is Dom again but I'm also interested in what others are thinking about this.

#1934

RIP Orson and llama. That is unfortunate.

I agree that it seems obvious Dom is bad, but I think we need to discuss others as well. Not sure which way we should vote just yet.

There is still the matter of: (1) the fact that BF/indiglo/juliets or some combination of them obviously seemed to have some sort of info about He-Man, but are they civvie or baddie is the real question; (2) is timmer indeed Zodac or is he Modulok and how has he escaped lynch for so long, if so; and (3) all of the low-posters and no shows (except for probably Aces). I feel like those are the main questions in my mind currently, Dom not withstanding. I would love to catch a baddie today regardless, but I think what I really want to catch is a Horde member because they are definitely scaring me much more at the moment.

I might go back and look at BWT's posts some more to see if I can come up with anything. I do remember he was one of the ones that went hard after timmer, but then switched his thoughts to timmer being indy when the tide of the thread changed, as many of us did. I'm really wondering if that's where we are getting hoodwinked. That being said, I'd still really like to believe timmer is Zodac or at least one of the indies.

Thoughts, anyone, on any of these 3 topics? I feel like people fell into the Dom lynch yesterday and many of the things I (and others) brought up particularly in my posts on low posters weren't discussed to their full potential, so I'd rather discuss those today so we can try and figure out what's going on, instead of falling in line to another slew of posts that just say "votes Dom".

#1935

Mp, I certainly didn't need civvie credit when I pursued Hemans lynch. Moreso, if you really believe the three of us could be horde, and you believe timmer was hexed along with myself on the same day, wouldn't heman have turned up as skeletor? Or we would have pushed for his lynch as well if we'd found both.

Additionally, given the circumstances of the game, I doubt any baddie would try to lynch a bad guy. They have quite frankly done so poorly this game, in particular snake mountain, that its probably in their best interest to keep them around as long as possible. Yes, the horde needs them dead to ultimately win. But I think the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" thing kind of applies here.

I wouldn't be opposed to another Dom lynch given the lynch switch. And it is obvious snake mountain is trying to set me up with the llama NK. I am not snake mountain and did not kill llama and did not want llama dead, I was not concerned by his suspicion of me and handled it well and was prepared to continue to address his concerns if they continued. RIP friend

Also RIP Orson!

#1936

Also great post epig

sorry I haven't been mentioning it in a while. But your posts are always completely epic.

#1937

MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP Orson and llama. That is unfortunate.

I agree that it seems obvious Dom is bad, but I think we need to discuss others as well. Not sure which way we should vote just yet.

There is still the matter of: (1) the fact that BF/indiglo/juliets or some combination of them obviously seemed to have some sort of info about He-Man, but are they civvie or baddie is the real question; (2) is timmer indeed Zodac or is he Modulok and how has he escaped lynch for so long, if so; and (3) all of the low-posters and no shows (except for probably Aces). I feel like those are the main questions in my mind currently, Dom not withstanding. I would love to catch a baddie today regardless, but I think what I really want to catch is a Horde member because they are definitely scaring me much more at the moment.

I might go back and look at BWT's posts some more to see if I can come up with anything. I do remember he was one of the ones that went hard after timmer, but then switched his thoughts to timmer being indy when the tide of the thread changed, as many of us did. I'm really wondering if that's where we are getting hoodwinked. That being said, I'd still really like to believe timmer is Zodac or at least one of the indies.

Thoughts, anyone, on any of these 3 topics? I feel like people fell into the Dom lynch yesterday and many of the things I (and others) brought up particularly in my posts on low posters weren't discussed to their full potential, so I'd rather discuss those today so we can try and figure out what's going on, instead of falling in line to another slew of posts that just say "votes Dom".

I agree we need to discuss others as well. I am going to do some rereading on certain players and see if I cannot come up with anything.

RIP llama and orson

#1938

thellama73 and Orsonkidd - you will be avenged

Congrats on passing your exam, MP! :yay:

sorry about your Durango, Epi

Considering Dom somehow managed to escape a lynch, and the post regarding Orson implicates Snake Mountain, I think we can safely deduce that Dom is, indeed, Snake Mountain - unless it was done to rid themselves of a troublesome civvie and ensure another day of looking at Dom

I need to drink my coffee and wait for my eyeballs to wake up properly

back with more thoughts a bit later.

#1939

I don't personally buy into the idea that blindfaeth and He-Man are both Snake Mountain and both received so many votes on Day 1. I have pretty much felt good things about blindfaeth since that lynch and still do. Also, wasn't the first birdwithteeth lynch switched to blindfaeth? Meaning he's likely not a member of the Horde either?

Timmer is an enigma to me and I honestly cannot decide what to think about him. I hate to think that he might actually be bad and we've been giving him a pass this entire time.

As for the quieter people, I've been wondering about reywaS and Stormcrow for awhile. ReywaS happened to be a goat for all of the days that BWT was being discussed, so unfortunately there are no posts of his to read during that time (does anyone know how he became a goat? *makes note to self to check roles again*). Stormcrow hasn't really added anything to the discussion, but for an entirely new player seems to be doing a good job of showing up to vote. Then there's the_untamed who has a whopping 3 posts in this game...

The fact there there have been missing PMs consistently throughout this whole game makes me think they are due to the "no show" players, but it's hard to say if those are missing civvie powers or not.

#1940

I am not a part of this information is used by default. Today, I want to deal with hshrii/Olson.

#1941

blindfaeth wrote:Mp, I certainly didn't need civvie credit when I pursued Hemans lynch. Moreso, if you really believe the three of us could be horde, and you believe timmer was hexed along with myself on the same day, wouldn't heman have turned up as skeletor? Or we would have pushed for his lynch as well if we'd found both.

Additionally, given the circumstances of the game, I doubt any baddie would try to lynch a bad guy. They have quite frankly done so poorly this game, in particular snake mountain, that its probably in their best interest to keep them around as long as possible. Yes, the horde needs them dead to ultimately win. But I think the "my enemy's enemy is my friend" thing kind of applies here.

I wouldn't be opposed to another Dom lynch given the lynch switch. And it is obvious snake mountain is trying to set me up with the llama NK. I am not snake mountain and did not kill llama and did not want llama dead, I was not concerned by his suspicion of me and handled it well and was prepared to continue to address his concerns if they continued. RIP friend

Also RIP Orson!

I'm not arguing you do need civvie credit; I think you have seemed civvie all game.

As to the bolded, here are my thoughts. It seems evident to me that the Horde knows who Skeletor is based on the fact that we seemingly had two people hexed at the same time. My argument for He-Man was that the Horde also likely knew who was Tri-Klops was, and He-Man took higher priority. However, consider this, and I just came to this realization after the "snake" ordeal last night. It seems more likely to me that Dom is on Snake Mountain, not Horde, after that incident, so what if Dom is Skeletor? That being said, my original train of thought before that realization didn't consider that any or all of you three (if you are Horde) would be pushing hard for Skeletor, because why would you be? If there's only 1 or 2 people left on Snake Mountain, the team is obviously decimated AND if the Horde knows who Skeletor is, why would they waste their time going after him? Because then the civvies are united in fighting The Horde. As long as Snake Mountain is bleeding but still around, The Horde just has to keep their numbers up and get rid of Skeletor later. I would be more worried by some of the civvie powers if I were the Horde at this point because we have now with Orson only had 1 civvie lynch.

This is exactly as you said in the paragraph following. However, why wouldn't someone on The Horde want to get rid of He-Man as he was obviously playing a crafty game? If they knew 2 people on Snake Mountain, why not cripple them a bit more first and get rid of the one who is playing a craftier game to keep the heat off of them, and then try to keep the heat off of themselves thereafter?

I do not think you are Snake Mountain. If you are indeed baddie, you would very likely have to be Horde. I'm not saying I believe this to be true, but I find it weird that people are trying to silence me on this discussion point. I think it's a legitimate point to be brought up.

All of that being said, I still would like to believe you're civvie and I'm far from being sold that you're a baddie. I've only just recently started wondering because of these circumstances. I re-read the way the lynch of He-Man went down and none of you made it less than obvious that there was some kind of info floating around, and it would make a ton of sense if that info was from the Leech power. Also, lest you forget you and I have had BTSC before and you hoodwinked me so badly in Computer Lab after you and LT were recruited to the Botnet.

Not arguing for your lynch, but rather, trying to involve everyone in a discussion about all of these topics.

Linki with other people, I'll worry about these in my next post, lol.

#1942

Lol. That was a good game. I loved being recruited. I remember we really wanted to include you.

That being said I cannot be horde because BWTs team tried to switch the lynch to me the first day. Thank goodness I survived

#1943

First day meaning the first BWT lynch day

#1944

Also, another thing I want to add is now that we know Orson's role, I think taking a closer look at Snow Dog and Kate who orson called out yesterday might be a good idea. I have flip-flopped on my feelings about Snow Dog all game long. Early on I felt like for a first time player he was really on the ball, yet he asked a lot of noob questions. Then I wondered if he was asking a lot of questions in thread to pull the wool over our eyes. I'm not sure but I will be looking back at him and Kate as well as those I mentioned previously.

#1945

Flyin' High wrote:Also, another thing I want to add is now that we know Orson's role, I think taking a closer look at Snow Dog and Kate who orson called out yesterday might be a good idea. I have flip-flopped on my feelings about Snow Dog all game long. Early on I felt like for a first time player he was really on the ball, yet he asked a lot of noob questions. Then I wondered if he was asking a lot of questions in thread to pull the wool over our eyes. I'm not sure but I will be looking back at him and Kate as well as those I mentioned previously.

That's a good point ill have to look into it later. Since he was a civvie blocker ,maybew he thought he'd prevented a kill one or a couple of nights, worth looking into.

#1946

İnsanified I'm looking for, because it tested.

#1947

Flyin' High wrote:I don't personally buy into the idea that blindfaeth and He-Man are both Snake Mountain and both received so many votes on Day 1. I have pretty much felt good things about blindfaeth since that lynch and still do. Also, wasn't the first birdwithteeth lynch switched to blindfaeth? Meaning he's likely not a member of the Horde either?

Timmer is an enigma to me and I honestly cannot decide what to think about him. I hate to think that he might actually be bad and we've been giving him a pass this entire time.

As for the quieter people, I've been wondering about reywaS and Stormcrow for awhile. ReywaS happened to be a goat for all of the days that BWT was being discussed, so unfortunately there are no posts of his to read during that time (does anyone know how he became a goat? *makes note to self to check roles again*). Stormcrow hasn't really added anything to the discussion, but for an entirely new player seems to be doing a good job of showing up to vote. Then there's the_untamed who has a whopping 3 posts in this game...

The fact there there have been missing PMs consistently throughout this whole game makes me think they are due to the "no show" players, but it's hard to say if those are missing civvie powers or not.

Re: the bolded, brilliant, I did indeed forget about that. But of course, BF survived, so they could have switched it to him knowing he'd survive. That's a load of WIFOM sandwich I'm not even sure I want to eat.

I agree on timmer, I just really don't know. As to reywaS and Stormcrow, I've been wondering about them too, but based on reywaS's content/demeanor/posts I've been leaning more so civvie and Stormcrow's behavior also has my gut saying lone civvie more so than on a baddie team. That being said, I'm beginning to wonder with Stormcrow more and more these last day/night cycles with each time she comes into the game and obviously votes, but then evades my attempts to get her thoughts. I mean, I remember my first game and it was a giant clusterfrick, so I had no idea what I was doing half the game, but still. And agreed on the_untamed, there could be a baddie there too. I seriously mean it when all of those low poster players I outlined could be baddies (again, except probably Aces), so that is extra frustrating.

blindfaeth wrote:Lol. That was a good game. I loved being recruited. I remember we really wanted to include you.

That being said I cannot be horde because BWTs team tried to switch the lynch to me the first day. Thank goodness I survived

This could be the case, but again, see my explanation above. It would be ballsy for sure unless they knew you were going to survive. Still a possibility.

Flyin' High wrote:Also, another thing I want to add is now that we know Orson's role, I think taking a closer look at Snow Dog and Kate who orson called out yesterday might be a good idea. I have flip-flopped on my feelings about Snow Dog all game long. Early on I felt like for a first time player he was really on the ball, yet he asked a lot of noob questions. Then I wondered if he was asking a lot of questions in thread to pull the wool over our eyes. I'm not sure but I will be looking back at him and Kate as well as those I mentioned previously.

I would agree in theory and did think of that, but I think it unwise for us to be looking at both Kate and Snow Dog based on the circumstances and the fact that I'm fairly confident both are civvie.

Also, how many missed kills have we had, two? And they were both Nights 1 and 2. Orson has not been gunning against those two since that early. If he had, it would be a different story.

#1948

LT, you do agree on Kate, correct? I want to make sure I'm not hoodwinked with her but I think it's fair to conclude Kate is indeed civvie.

#1949

RIP Orson & Llama.

LittleTiger wrote: thellama73 and Orsonkidd - you will be avenged

Congrats on passing your exam, MP! sorry about your Durango, Epi

Considering Dom somehow managed to escape a lynch, and the post regarding Orson implicates Snake Mountain, I think we can safely deduce that Dom is, indeed, Snake Mountain - unless it was done to rid themselves of a troublesome civvie and ensure another day of looking at Dom

I need to drink my coffee and wait for my eyeballs to wake up properly back with more thoughts a bit later.

I'm thinking the same thing you are about Dom/Snake Mountain. I think it would be fine to lynch Dom again today... unless we can come up with another option from the other team.

Speaking of which...
LT, if I may ask you a question (to further my deductions & understanding here) - What are your thoughts on MoPi? Because from where I stand, just through the power of deduction, I do not see where he fits into the civ side of the puzzle this game.

#1950

blindfaeth wrote:
Flyin' High wrote:Also, another thing I want to add is now that we know Orson's role, I think taking a closer look at Snow Dog and Kate who orson called out yesterday might be a good idea. I have flip-flopped on my feelings about Snow Dog all game long. Early on I felt like for a first time player he was really on the ball, yet he asked a lot of noob questions. Then I wondered if he was asking a lot of questions in thread to pull the wool over our eyes. I'm not sure but I will be looking back at him and Kate as well as those I mentioned previously.
That's a good point ill have to look into it later. Since he was a civvie blocker ,maybew he thought he'd prevented a kill one or a couple of nights, worth looking into.

Great point, FH. Sounds like that's definitely an area worth looking at.